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GasMonkey

GasMonkey

Nitrogen Master Race
May 15, 2022
1,878
Did you track your O₂ saturation during the "attempt"?
 
Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
455
God yes,
I was shown the link to a Russian story where a Russian family accidently used SN instead of normal salt. The only surviving family member (not sure how many died as translation was poor) was blind and deaf, then after his release from hospital his sight came back.
Was the deafness and blindness because of the SN?
 
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lukas19

Specialist
Jan 17, 2023
345
Yes. So from what i learnt from that article are.
1. There are serious consequences from attempting SN and failing.
2. How lethal SN!!! The rest of his family died! and no way they had 25gs each and they was eating food at the same time.
 
Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
455
Yes. So from what i learnt from that article are.
1. There are serious consequences from attempting SN and failing.
2. How lethal SN!!! The rest of his family died! and no way they had 25gs each and they was eating food at the same time.
Oh god that's really put me off attempting with SN. What if some people on here who have attempted have gone deaf and blind and cant communicate with us anymore to tell their story. Fuck and i thought SN was a fail safe way to Ctb without long term effects if suriving.
 
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d3c96524be95

Student
Jan 24, 2023
167
Oh god that's really put me off attempting with SN. What if some people on here who have attempted have gone deaf and blind and cant communicate with us anymore to tell their story. Fuck and i thought SN was a fail safe way to Ctb without long term effects if suriving.
Survival bias, paradoxically 😄.
 
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lukas19

Specialist
Jan 17, 2023
345
Oh god that's really put me off attempting with SN. What if some people on here who have attempted have gone deaf and blind and cant communicate with us anymore to tell their story. Fuck and i thought SN was a fail safe way to Ctb without long term effects if suriving.
There is a big difference between accidently taking a fraction of the dosage whilst eating a meal and following Stan's protocol. I know some people like salt but how much would a person consume during a meal, 1-2gms?
@lukas19 do you have a link to the article?
 
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d3c96524be95

Student
Jan 24, 2023
167
@lukas19 Maybe this? It's the same case you described, except vision came back after a while. We don't know if the hearing is still impaired.
 
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Dubito

Student
Nov 5, 2022
195
Oh god that's really put me off attempting with SN. What if some people on here who have attempted have gone deaf and blind and cant communicate with us anymore to tell their story. Fuck and i thought SN was a fail safe way to Ctb without long term effects if suriving.
No method is 100 percent safe. At least fulminare isn't death and blind.
 
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EndlessDream

EndlessDream

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Feb 15, 2023
95
Oh god that's really put me off attempting with SN. What if some people on here who have attempted have gone deaf and blind and cant communicate with us anymore to tell their story. Fuck and i thought SN was a fail safe way to Ctb without long term effects if suriving.
Best to follow protocol:

1. 25g of SN diluted in water (30g if over 100kg)
2. Only fluids for several hours, ideally just water
3. Antiemetics (need dopamine blocking) 40 min before taking the SN
4. Benzos diluted with water (often need quite a lot, like 50 x 10mg Valium/diazepam). This will make it easier to pass out.

(More info from the Peaceful Pill found at https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/)

User Fulminare
1. Drank only 12.5g
2. No clue about if they were only drinking fluids and not eating food
3. Not sure about antimetics.
4. No mention of benzos.
5. Drunk (more likely to puke)

User Jadzia
1. Had only 6-7 dabs (not even close to 25g)
2. Domperidone so got the antiemetic down
3. On benzos, not sure how much.
4. Drunk (more likely to puke)

Seems like a lot of people didn't follow protocol, which isn't a bad thing, they can stop whenever they want, it's their body and it's not pussy to pull out and save your own life, but of course it has consequences. Have to go all in for best chance, and only trying out a little bit will usually get you sick.

With survivorship bias, there'll be more people talking about failing, because the ones that followed protocol and succeeded can no longer talk about it 😜
 
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Dubito

Student
Nov 5, 2022
195
Best to follow protocol:

1. 25g of SN diluted in water (30g if over 100kg)
2. Only fluids for several hours, ideally just water
3. Antiemetics (need dopamine blocking) 40 min before taking the SN
4. Benzos diluted with water (often need quite a lot, like 50 x 10mg Valium/diazepam). This will make it easier to pass out.

(More info from the Peaceful Pill found at https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/)

User Fulminare
1. Drank only 12.5g
2. No clue about if they were only drinking fluids and not eating food
3. Not sure about antimetics.
4. No mention of benzos.
5. Drunk (more likely to puke)

User Jadzia
1. Had only 6-7 dabs (not even close to 25g)
2. Domperidone so got the antiemetic down
3. On benzos, not sure how much.
4. Drunk (more likely to puke)

Seems like a lot of people didn't follow protocol, which isn't a bad thing, they can stop whenever they want, it's their body and it's not pussy to pull out and save your own life, but of course it has consequences. Have to go all in for best chance, and only trying out a little bit will usually get you sick.

With survivorship bias, there'll be more people talking about failing, because the ones that followed protocol and succeeded can no longer talk about it 😜
You are not just here since four days, are you?
 
EndlessDream

EndlessDream

Member
Feb 15, 2023
95
You are not just here since four days, are you?
I've been suicidal since 14 on and off 😜 Just been going over The Peaceful Pill and ordering my stuff, looking everywhere on the internet. I really want it to go well and have me not fail 😜 There's very things I'm passionate about right now 😘
 
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ascarto

Member
Feb 14, 2023
9
Really vision and hearing loss? I haven't heard of that here yet on the forums. Isn't that the exception? Most people say with SN you don't end up a vegetable if it goes south. A friend of Monicide also documented when she was passing away but there was no mention of hearing or vision loss.
 
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Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
455
Really vision and hearing loss? I haven't heard of that here yet on the forums. Isn't that the exception? Most people say with SN you don't end up a vegetable if it goes south. A friend of Monicide also documented when she was passing away but there was no mention of hearing or vision loss.
I read one SS users post on here of failed attempt with temporary blindness from SN.

@lukas19 thanks for the link
 
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littlelady774

littlelady774

running on empty
Dec 20, 2018
708
I know amyl nitrite can lead to blindness, never heard of SN doing this though.

I'm going to research the exact mechanism for which this happens.
 
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Fulminare

Fulminare

Read Thomas Szasz!
Feb 20, 2022
227
glad to see you are still here! and thank you so much for checking in with us and sharing your experience. I wanted to ask, did you feel delirious? what concerns me is how you woke up on the kitchen floor without remembering how you got there- I'm concerned I will do the same. I've heard others calling for help without remembering and waking up in a hospital. is this the SN, do you think? or was it the alcohol/some other med?
It's hard to judge this because I was drunk, but I also know how I usually behave when I'm drunk. It was different this time. So, I'd say that the SN definitely added onto that. But that only started to set in once I had to get up from my bed in order to get to the bathroom. Because that's when I realized "Oh shit, I cannot walk anymore and my body is giving up". If you were to lay down the whole time, then you will not be as delirious. It was really calm when I was just laying there.
How are you feeling today, dear?
I'm alright. My recovery has been going well. Just need to keep my mind occupied so my mind doesn't take me back. Thank you for caring!
We talked not too long ago. Helped me find a source for SN. You're a good man/woman. If you didn't intend to do so, I hope you're doing okay. If not, well, I at least hope that you finally found peace.
That's really kind of you to say. Whatever source it was, you can trust it. I hope it gives you some peace too.
 
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betternever2havbeen

Enlightened
Jun 19, 2022
1,052
@Fulminare so great you are ok-after I posted I got worried because I didn't realise how much sn you took, I was thinking you were just gonna recover, which thankfully you did (but it started looking really bad for a bit when you weren't coming back online!) sounds like a scary experience. Please don't do that again when not completely sure! I guess you learnt your lesson there though. Was it a worse experience than you expected, did it make you panic or did you just kind of accept it?
 
Fulminare

Fulminare

Read Thomas Szasz!
Feb 20, 2022
227
@Fulminare so great you are ok-after I posted I got worried because I didn't realise how much sn you took, I was thinking you were just gonna recover, which thankfully you did (but it started looking really bad for a bit when you weren't coming back online!) sounds like a scary experience. Please don't do that again when not completely sure! I guess you learnt your lesson there though. Was it a worse experience than you expected, did it make you panic or did you just kind of accept it?
The thing is, I was very sure. I was just too drunk and did it impulsively. No fasting and proper meds beforehand. It honestly breaks my heart that I survived. Not to sour the mood or anything. I just wish I would've been more sober. But it does cheer me up a lot that so many people seemed to care. I was scared to read the replies here, but instead I found tons of supportive comments. This community is truly the best. It makes me tear up.

Well I remember laying in bed, drinking the SN. And once the symptoms started to set in, I realized that I will pass away very soon. It was peaceful. Then the nausea started to kick in right before I was able to drink more of it. That's when I started to panic because I was a bit far away from the bathroom. I then made the mistake of leaving behind the glass with the rest of the SN in my bedroom. That all added onto the panic I've felt in that moment. So I guess you could say it was a bit of both haha.
 
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bijou

bijou

meow meow meow
Jan 23, 2023
173
gosh, i don't know you, but i have been watching this thread to make sure you're alright. i'm glad ur still with us.
stay well and be gentle with yourself. impulse can be a bitch sometimes fr...

idk maybe it's the "i need to be incredibly prepared before i go out, and have a will/have a corpse plan/write letters to a xyz amount of people" attitude in me nowadays...i do really hope you're doing better luv
 
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betternever2havbeen

Enlightened
Jun 19, 2022
1,052
The thing is, I was very sure. I was just too drunk and did it impulsively. No fasting and proper meds beforehand. It honestly breaks my heart that I survived. Not to sour the mood or anything. I just wish I would've been more sober. But it does cheer me up a lot that so many people seemed to care. I was scared to read the replies here, but instead I found tons of supportive comments. This community is truly the best. It makes me tear up.

Well I remember laying in bed, drinking the SN. And once the symptoms started to set in, I realized that I will pass away very soon. It was peaceful. Then the nausea started to kick in right before I was able to drink more of it. That's when I started to panic because I was a bit far away from the bathroom. I then made the mistake of leaving behind the glass with the rest of the SN in my bedroom. That all added onto the panic I've felt in that moment. So I guess you could say it was a bit of both haha.
Yeh I can see how you'd be upset to go through all of that and survive, even when you hadn't prepared properly for it. I'm so glad you found all the comments supportive though, and yeh of course we are gonna care, we are not gonna kick you when you're down! I'm just happy you had us to chat to whilst you were going through all that. I'm amazed you were so coherent lol-that's why I didn't worry too much to start with until you went quiet. Thanks for giving a detailed account of what happened to you and glad you are feeling ok now.
 
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mondo9k

mondo9k

Member
Feb 5, 2023
27
It's "failed attempts at death" like this that make me hesitant to try SN. There are so many survivor stories. However this person said he drank only half the glass of the lethal dose.
 
Source Energy

Source Energy

I want to be where people areN'T...
Jan 23, 2023
705
I know amyl nitrite can lead to blindness, never heard of SN doing this though.

I'm going to research the exact mechanism for which this happens.
Omg...I hope that's not true. With my luck...now I don't dare take it :(( :((
It's "failed attempts at death" like this that make me hesitant to try SN. There are so many survivor stories. However this person said he drank only half the glass of the lethal dose.
He probably threw up. Didn't have AE either. If I do it, I'll make sure to order all the "props" and follow the regimen to a T
 
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mondo9k

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Feb 5, 2023
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If you read his second post in this thread, he says: "I drank half of a glass. The glass was 25g. " You won't die if you only take 12.5 grams
 
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GasMonkey

GasMonkey

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May 15, 2022
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Your way to Elysium was aborted.
 
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lukas19

Specialist
Jan 17, 2023
345
I read one SS users post on here of failed attempt with temporary blindness from SN.

@lukas19 thanks for the link
It wasn't a failed attempt it was a horrible accident where his little daughter mixed up SN with normal salt.
 
Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
455
It wasn't a failed attempt it was a horrible accident where his little daughter mixed up SN with normal salt.
You misunderstood my post, I was talking about a different case
 
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Fulminare

Fulminare

Read Thomas Szasz!
Feb 20, 2022
227
If you read his second post in this thread, he says: "I drank half of a glass. The glass was 25g. " You won't die if you only take 12.5 grams
Yes, exactly! Please don't think I drank a whole glass. I did take AE though because it was stashed under my bed. But that's about it.
Yeh I can see how you'd be upset to go through all of that and survive, even when you hadn't prepared properly for it. I'm so glad you found all the comments supportive though, and yeh of course we are gonna care, we are not gonna kick you when you're down! I'm just happy you had us to chat to whilst you were going through all that. I'm amazed you were so coherent lol-that's why I didn't worry too much to start with until you went quiet. Thanks for giving a detailed account of what happened to you and glad you are feeling ok now.
Thank you!! ❤️
 
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Tricondyla ledouxi

Student
Jan 2, 2023
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glad to see you are still here! and thank you so much for checking in with us and sharing your experience. I wanted to ask, did you feel delirious? what concerns me is how you woke up on the kitchen floor without remembering how you got there- I'm concerned I will do the same. I've heard others calling for help without remembering and waking up in a hospital. is this the SN, do you think? or was it the alcohol/some other med?
We were just talking about this lol
 
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aleph_zero

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Sep 6, 2022
59
@Fulminare sorry if you've already said this, but did you throw up at any point? The amount you consumed is still a lot in case you didn't throw up afterwards
 

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