If all of your problems were fixed and you were guaranteed a happy life, would you still CTB?

[lifewasawillowtv]

I'm not sure, I don't think so but I also don't want to die of old age regardless of how happy my life is, so I think I would ctb eventually (but not for a long time).

 

[Forever Sleep]

Sounds like a scam to me...

 

[chronicdissosiation]

i would definitely ctb at some point, regardless if i was happy
ive come to terms with my future suicide and i know its something thats bound to happen
i cant imagine staying on this earth for too long

 

[Doemu]

I'm fine with the idea of killing my self. I don't think just for being happy i'm gonna change it.

 

[Adûnâi]

Depends on the time frame, I guess. I'd probably like a life of centuries or millennia, but I can't vouch for the boredom argument to be false.

I'm fine with the idea of killing my self. I don't think just for being happy i'm gonna change it.

Nice to see you still here btw. Don't find it possessive though, I'm not keeping you here, just appreciate your thoughts^^

 

[Ash]

Absolutely. I want to CTB because I've been consistently miserable and depressed for years, and every time I think I've got back on my feet, something happens and I end up face first in the muck and mire once more. There's only so many times I feel I can pick myself up knowing I'll fall again. Give me a happy life with none of my current issues and I'll take it, even if the trade off is a shorter lifespan.

I think the only way I'd turn it down would be a happy life that I knew in advance would end in a prolonged and hideously painful way (e.g. burning to death).

 

[strangelife]

I am not suicidal, I want to live very much, but the conditions of health makes life impossible for me, that's why I want to CTB. It is very hard, that's why I'm very depressed now. I've got so many plans in my life, and everything ruined, I am only 41.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I would choose death to spite my generous benefactor mwahahaha

 

[cosmic-freedom]

No.I wouldn't ctb if I was able to get rid of my narcissistic father

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I don't even think that I would have to ctb as solving all my problems means that I would be dead and hence permanently non existent. After all, my problems are with the nature of life itself. Sure, I do admit that, if my autistic brain was replaced with a normal brain and I enjoyed suffering instead of going against it and if I enjoyed life and if I could have jobs as well as relationships easier, I would want to live. After all, if my brain was replaced with a normie's brain, I'd technically want to live.

However, as of right now, whilst giving me all of the above would technically make me want to live, it wouldn't solve all of my problems and I'd be unsatisfied with being a normie. For me to want to live, I'd need suffering as a whole to be eradicated completely. I'd need it so that the very laws of nature changes which is obviously impossible.

As of right now, whilst I do admit that having a normie brain as well as having things about life to like about would make me want to live, I do think that it's very inadequate for what I want as of right now. Right now, all I would settle for is me reaping all of the benefits without having to work or suffer. I refuse to willingly settle for less and I can't understand those who are okay with settling for less

 

[Doemu]

Depends on the time frame, I guess. I'd probably like a life of centuries or millennia, but I can't vouch for the boredom argument to be false.


Nice to see you still here btw. Don't find it possessive though, I'm not keeping you here, just appreciate your thoughts^^

I just can't change who I am, even if I'm asked to. Nice to see you too.

 

[Final_Choice]

Guaranteeing a happy life, even if all my problems were fixed sounds like a fallacy. Though I'd at least give it a try and see if I genuinely still want to CTB or not.

 

[makeitstop___]

I wish this were the case. But the problems seem insurmountable. It's a war. And I am so broken down and depleted in every way. Fighting and trying to hold on, hoping have all proved futile. I have reached a point where I no longer have the means to fight to fix these problems anymore, let alone to live. I told my partner last night that I truly feel like I can't even afford to suck oxygen here anymore. Being a good person doesn't matter. Your merits don't matter. Words and actions don't matter. At the end of the day, those who have money and influence are the ones who make it. I have neither. So it just is what it is.

 

[Callie Arcale]

I don't even need all my problems to be fixed. I'd be content with being able to sit in a electric wheelchair. Then I could have some freedom to go out and it would all be so much more bearable.

 

[Forveleth]

I've had 25 years of depression and even if you told me everything would be great from here on out, wouldn't want it. I'm so tired of existing whether in good times or bad. I just want to be done.

 

[LunarLight]

Of course I woud live. I have nothing against life itself. But with this sick brain... it's not worth it.

 

[Dark Window]

I would still ctb because everyone is powerless against entropy and time. I would hate to have to get old or enter old age. No one has solved the problem of aging yet, and it's probably unsolvable. I'm still going to die young via ctb

You're only saying that because you're in pain. If you were happy and enjoying life you wouldn't be thinking this way about life.

People who are happy and satisfied with their lives don't CTB.

Even when I don't think I'm in great pain but still think of CTB, when I look closely it's because I'm emotionally numb, unmotivated in that moment, and my life isn't great and the effects of depression are still hitting me.

No one who is happy in life would CTB, even if we think our decision to kill ourselves is rational, which it can be, it's still impacted by bad quality of life in some way.

It can be rational to want to kill yourself, but you wouldn't do it if you were happy.

 

[Eudaimonic]

No. I'd no longer have any reason to.

 

[sserafim]

You're only saying that because you're in pain. If you were happy and enjoying life you wouldn't be thinking this way about life.

People who are happy and satisfied with their lives don't CTB.

Even when I don't think I'm in great pain but still think of CTB, when I look closely it's because I'm emotionally numb, unmotivated in that moment, and my life isn't great and the effects of depression are still hitting me.

No one who is happy in life would CTB, even if we think our decision to kill ourselves is rational, which it can be, it's still impacted by bad quality of life in some way.

It can be rational to want to kill yourself, but you wouldn't do it if you were happy.

Do you think that normies actually want to get old? I doubt so. They only live until old age because of survival instinct. Who would want their body and mind to deteriorate? Old age brings a multitude of health problems because your body literally breaks down in preparation for death. Your body becomes a used car engine and gets worn out from use. I bet if normies could stay 25 forever, they would. I'm not even in pain. I just think that life is meaningless. It's a logical, nihilistic conclusion. There's really no meaning of life and I just don't see the point of it. Does life have to be enjoyed? Are we expected to enjoy it? Why are we expected to live and be happy? By the way, I would only live if I could stay young forever and have infinite money

 

[derpyderpins]

Do you think that normies actually want to get old? I doubt so. They only live until old age because of survival instinct. Who would want their body and mind to deteriorate? Old age brings a multitude of health problems because your body literally breaks down in preparation for death. Your body becomes a used car engine and gets worn out from use. I bet if normies could stay 25 forever, they would. I'm not even in pain. I just think that life is meaningless. It's a logical, nihilistic conclusion. There's really no meaning of life and I just don't see the point of it. Does life have to be enjoyed? Are we expected to enjoy it? Why are we expected to live and be happy? By the way, I would only live if I could stay young forever and have infinite money

I've always had a split view on getting old.

On one hand, like you, I dreaded getting old, and figured I'd ctb by 30, and now I'm technically in my 30s. My fear was that at that point I would have missed all my opportunities to do something with my life.

On the other hand, there are things I look forward to with getting older. Things calm down. You have a lot of experience to draw from. I think it's nice to imagine getting older and sitting out on my deck with my guitar, just being in the moment rather than being so worried about the whole point of life and how much I've messed up and if that even matters, etc.

I don't worry nearly as much as you about the health concerns with aging. CTB will always be there if I need it, and once I'm dead who cares about what my body was like when I was alive.

I'm curious. Because you talk about being super rich a lot. What do you actually want to do with that money?

 

[sserafim]

I've always had a split view on getting old.

On one hand, like you, I dreaded getting old, and figured I'd ctb by 30, and now I'm technically in my 30s. My fear was that at that point I would have missed all my opportunities to do something with my life.

On the other hand, there are things I look forward to with getting older. Things calm down. You have a lot of experience to draw from. I think it's nice to imagine getting older and sitting out on my deck with my guitar, just being in the moment rather than being so worried about the whole point of life and how much I've messed up and if that even matters, etc.

I don't worry nearly as much as you about the health concerns with aging. CTB will always be there if I need it, and once I'm dead who cares about what my body was like when I was alive.

I'm curious. Because you talk about being super rich a lot. What do you actually want to do with that money?

Go traveling, invest it to make even more money, etc. I want to explore the world. My family is upper middle class but I want to be super rich

 

[derpyderpins]

Go traveling, invest it to make even more money, etc. I want to explore the world. My family is upper middle class but I want to be super rich

You don't need to be all that rich to explore the world. I'm glad to know you have something you want to do. I do think travelling is very important, particularly seeing different cultures. Even here within the US, there's a huge range of people. The northeast and the southeast seem like different countries, for example.

 

[Abyssal]

I mean my problem is my suicidal ideation so…if that were fixed? Seems pretty self explanatory. I'd live

 

[sserafim]

You don't need to be all that rich to explore the world. I'm glad to know you have something you want to do. I do think travelling is very important, particularly seeing different cultures. Even here within the US, there's a huge range of people. The northeast and the southeast seem like different countries, for example.

I've already been to a lot of countries but I want to go to more. I'm sad that I missed a chance to go to the Middle East with my mom last year. It's one of my regrets in life, that I didn't go. Maybe I wouldn't have liked it though. She went to Doha, Abu Dhabi and Dubai and I hate the vanity of capitalism

 

[Chronosphere]

Life is the problem.

 

[derpyderpins]

I've already been to a lot of countries but I want to go to more. I'm sad that I missed a chance to go to the Middle East with my mom last year. It's one of my regrets in life, that I didn't go. Maybe I wouldn't have liked it though. She went to Doha, Abu Dhabi and Dubai and I hate the vanity of capitalism

I hope you're able to go someday. You missed a chance, but you could have another.

Do you think you hate capitalism, or just whatever unrecognizable blob of government theories America has become?

 

[thenamingofcats]

I would because I would still have to know the nature of people.

 

[DeathOfKane]

Depends on whats included in this "happy life". That promise isn't enough for me to ever say yes without a few more questions.