I am surprised by how few people on this site intend to use a gun as their method

[jackodonnell]

If anyone knows how to get a gun or has one in the UK let me know It's my preferred method as it's the most likely to work and it's immediate.

 

[Thatdude]

I think a major reason comes down to
1. Guns aren't a 100% thing. Like if it goes wrong, then it can be pretty bad.
2. It's harder to kill yourself with a gun if given conditions are there. Like you don't want your family to find you or whatever. Due to a camera at every corner, a person everywhere, and how cops will legit try to stop you from taking your own life. It is much easier for poison or other methods. Like hanging yourself at home is far cleaner than your family having to clean your brains off the wall.
3. Getting a gun can be a pain, and then dealing with it can be a pain. Like if a cop stops you and you have it on you or in your car, then that is a ton of problems. And hiding it can be a pain since virtually everyone knows exactly what a gun is when they look at it.


There is other things, but IMO this is the biggest.

 

[Someone123]

Wish I could get a gun. With that it's easy and painless.

If you look on youtube by "gunshot suicide attempt survivor" you will see many videos with a much worse outcome- they are too graphic to post here.

 

[NoFuneral]

If you look on youtube by "gunshot suicide attempt survivor" you will see many videos with a much worse outcome- they are too graphic to post here.

Yeah that's a very rare case, a self inflicted gunshot is still very reliable method.

 

[Someone123]

Yeah that's a very rare case, a self inflicted gunshot is still very reliable method.

According to the following Harvard study, gunshots work 82.5% of the time in the U.S.- when it does fail the results are usually horrible:

Lethality of Suicide Methods

What Governs Lethality? A number of factors are theorized to influence the lethality of a given method. The first is inherent deadliness. For example, car exhaust with a high CO level will be more …

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Full suspension hanging and sodium nitrate are mthods that are at least as reliable without risking as much damage, especially with sn.

 

[NoFuneral]

According to the following Harvard study, gunshots work 82.5% of the time in the U.S.- when it does fail the results are usually horrible:

Lethality of Suicide Methods

What Governs Lethality? A number of factors are theorized to influence the lethality of a given method. The first is inherent deadliness. For example, car exhaust with a high CO level will be more …

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Full suspension hanging and sodium nitrate are mthods that are at least as reliable without risking as much damage, especially with sn.

Well, yeah there is a chance that you'll survive if you point the gun on your jaw or in the way where the bullet won't go through your head. But if you take time and actually aim that thing properly it's pretty much guaranteed.

 

[Someone123]

Well, yeah there is a chance that you'll survive if you point the gun on your jaw or in the way where the bullet won't go through your head. But if you take time and actually aim that thing properly it's pretty much guaranteed.

It's not, I've done a lot of research because it was my first choice method for a long time, but I couldn't find a combination oi of firearm, ammo, and location to shoot that was reliable enough. If you shoot inside the mouth or from the side of the head these are the mjost reliable ways, and still many people survive these attempts. Sodium nitrite has about the same reliability without all the damage if you survive the attempt. Full suspension hanging seems to be even more reliable than a firearm- though it is scary because it can take a while and a gun can be instant. My first choice method is sn.

 

[NoFuneral]

It's not, I've done a lot of research because it was my first choice method for a long time, but I couldn't find a combination oi of firearm, ammo, and location to shoot that was reliable enough. If you shoot inside the mouth or from the side of the head these are the mjost reliable ways, and still many people survive these attempts. Sodium nitrite has about the same reliability without all the damage if you survive the attempt. Full suspension hanging seems to be even more reliable than a firearm- though it is scary because it can take a while and a gun can be instant. My first choice method is sn.

I have a relatively easy access to sodium nitrite how much of it is enough to not wake up?

 

[-Tandem-]

I can't speak for everyone else, but I own a gun and that would be my last option. Very violent way to go out, and usually the worst possible outcome if you fail.

I also think the fact that roughly 50% of suicides in the US are by gun is more likely indicative that 48% of suicides in the US are unplanned and reactionary.

Most of us here (I suspect) have had long term issues (mental illness, etc…) that have made our journey here more of a slow burn than an explosion, so there's been an element of ideation that favors planning.

You gonna let me borrow that gun or what? Won't be able to give it back though

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

I have a relatively easy access to sodium nitrite how much of it is enough to not wake up?

The answers are likely in one of these threads (once we are back on the 'org' domain, the links below will need to change):

SN megathread

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods. Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Also, there is a second on SN in the PPeH

 

[Someone123]

Guns scare me. Everything scares me.

All methods for leaving are scary in one way or another. And yet staying here for the long term is even scarier for many of us.

 

[NoFuneral]

The answers are likely in one of these threads (once we are back on the 'org' domain, the links below will need to change):

SN megathread

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods. Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Stan's Guide to SN.

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Also, there is a second on SN in the PPeH

This is really helpful thank you. I was so sure that I will have to resort to a messy jump, but this gives me hope for a peaceful end.

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

I have SN and multiple firearms. While I would prefer to avoid the mess involved with guns, I can't help but feel SN + gunshot to the head would have exceptional reliability as well as rendering me instantly unconscious so I dont have to endure any possible painful effects of SN. As for the "good samaritan" calling the police, here in my part of the US a single gunshot in the middle of the night is unlikely to get much attention unless someone is in the house with you. With any luck I can get the privacy of my home back if I can get the roommate I didn't ask for to move on as they promised to over a year ago. If not, I can always take a walk in the woods when the time comes.

 

[Mthom2]

A gun would be my go to if I had access to one. To me, it's the "holy grail" of self destination. Unfortunately, that is going to be impossible, so I'm forced to use SN.

 

[Someone123]

A gun would be my go to if I had access to one. To me, it's the "holy grail" of self destination. Unfortunately, that is going to be impossible, so I'm forced to use SN.

Sn really is better because both methods have about an 80% chance of working; however, if a gun fails you have so much more damage typically that you may not get a chance to try again. If Sn fails typically people recover within a few days and people can try again. For some people who have posted here it appears that Sn failed on the first try and worked on the second try.

 

[long4rest]

I couldn't use a gun. I would screw it up for sure.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Too grizzly

Don't feel like ruining whatever room I CTB

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

I'm American, and I too, was surprised that guns are relatively unpopular as a CTB method on here. SN is, which I found interesting.

That said, I was suicidal since I was 6. I also learned about guns at an early age too: many American cartoons have characters holding and using firearms like it's nothing. For instance, there's Elmer Fudd hunting Bug Bunny with a rifle, or Wile E. Coyote trying to shoot Roadrunner with a handgun, both in "Looney Toons", a far better cartoon series than the dumb crap today's kids watch. Basically, guns are as American as the bald eagle.

Even so, my CTB method of choice back then was stabbing myself in the heart with a butcher knife. Why? My family had a butcher knife at home, for preparing meats and such; we didn't own a gun. Plus, I knew about anatomy, so I knew that the human heart was just underneath the ribcage, so a long butcher knife could each it if I stabbed myself at the correct angle. So when I learned that guns existed, I planned on shooting myself in the heart as well; it wasn't until my teens that I learned that it's better to shoot in the mouth, which severs the brainstem, resulting in a fast death.

Speaking of knives, I also thought about severing the vein in my forearm. But that wasn't in the cards; it required too much "bravery" on my part. Interestingly, Lisa Simpson in "Simpsons" once said: "across for attention, along for effectiveness"; I was VERY shocked to see a cartoon character basically give CTB advice.

 

[Low_Spectre]

I feel like if there was a gun accessible to me, I would have attempted on impulse regardless of the success rate. As someone who lives in Canada, where such things are less accessible, a trigger just seems so easy to me. I've often said that if there was a button I could press, I would have done it already.

 

[Someone123]

I feel like if there was a gun accessible to me, I would have attempted on impulse regardless of the success rate. As someone who lives in Canada, where such things are less accessible, a trigger just seems so easy to me. I've often said that if there was a button I could press, I would have done it already.

I've seen too many videos on youtube of peope surviving gun attempts to want to do this- they have so many surgeries and faces destroyed and they typically don't get another chance to try. That's why I prefer Sn- about the same success rate(80%), and you typically recover and can try again if an attempt fails.

 

[Volo vent]

Im not americans, im fron a third world shithole in latin america and guns here are ilegal

 

[y0dha]

There are home-made silencers that people can make, I'm sure you can find instructions of the internet, but unlike in the movies, silencers lessen the sound but don't eliminate it. A gunshot is at lkeast 160 decibels, and the best silencers reduce sounds by about 43 decibels, so it's still as loud as a passing ambulance siren even with the best available silencer. You can research silencers on google and see that this is the case. Even with a silencer a gunshot is still quite loud. Movies depict silencers in a completely unrealistic way.

a silenced gunshot is clearly not as loud as a passing ambulance...

 

[Someone123]

a silenced gunshot is clearly not as loud as a passing ambulance...

Good information- that's what I read in an article that seemed credible, but apparently silencers can work better than most articles say- because I look at a few of them. Some fo them were quite a bit louder though than the one.

 

[JinZhin]

I envy people in U.S. because they have the guns, the fentanyl and much more opportunities for suicide by cop.

(Edit: this is a joke)

 

[Someone123]

I envy people in U.S. becaise they have the guns, the fentanyl and much more opportunities for suicide by cop.

None of those are such good methods. If you can get fentanyl it could be good, but you can't just buy it- it is laced into heroin sometimes, you never know. Sn is way better than all of these methods for a lot of reasons. Suicide by cop would be the biggest mistake, because you might get show by cops but not killed, and then spend many years in prison.

 

[TheDoomedDoomer]

I assume a pretty large percentage of users of this site are from the US where half of all suicides are by gun but maybe I am incorrect in this assumption. It seems like SN is the go to method. Does anyone else plan to use a gun when the time comes or is it just me?

Yes i plan to save up enough money to go see a few national parks Ive always wanted to visit. After I do that I'm gonna drive my car out too a secluded area in the desert. Place my ID and note on the dashboard, call the police tell them where I'm at what I'm doing etc then leave this existence.

Compared to other methods I think firearms give you the highest amount of control over whether it fails or not. If you do your research, choose a powerful enough weapon and ammunition, and practice where to aim you are as close to a guaranteed instant death as you can get. I also don't view it as a violent method if done right since you cease to exist before you can even perceive the shot was fired. As far as traumatizing the person that finds your body, I think any method is going to be scarring especially if your body begins to decompose over a few days. Also if you do it far enough out in nature there's chance your body will never be found or be mostly eaten by animals by the time anyone finds it.

Right if the barrel is positioned just above the ear lined up at eye level and you're using a decent caliber the brain stem will be destroyed before it can process the pain I'm using a 124gr 9mm JHP +p+ round that deals almost 470 pounds of kenetic energy that's plenty of power you just gotta use the right ammo

 

[Cali101]

I dont care if the chance to survive is only 1%. I could never risk surviving this the survivor pictures are brutal.

 

[Unheiress_unleashed]

Guns take more planning than you'd think. Most states you have to apply (though you're almost guaranteed approved in a lot of them), go through a waiting period, get a background check, and have a place to store them. Also in many states if you have ANYTHING related to involuntary psychiatric holds you are barred from owning a firearm. So if you were 15 and your mom called 911 because you said you wanted to die, you may not be able to make a purchase. Even with the loosest of gun regulations like buying it at a gun show in Texas with ID optional, you still probably need to take off work and spend a shit load of money. Guns can be really expensive, particularly ones with a high enough caliber to get the job done but not so high it goes right in and out without doing the damage it needs to.

You also need a place to do the deed, and it'll be explosively loud and messy. Guns would be my absolute last resort because the shot would definitely attract strangers if I left home to do it, so I wouldn't be able to control who would find the mangled mess I'd leave behind. I couldn't do that to a kid, or someone without the kind of trauma I have. I also wouldn't want to do it at home, because the noise would scare the crap out of my neighbors, make the last moments I spend with my pet frightening for her, and definitely scar the person I live with. Yeah, if I go out that way it's because I got backed into a corner and didn't have another way out.

 

[ridedalightnin’]

.357 was my choice but do good laws take my 2nd amendment right, keep me safe and suffering.

 

[Seiko]

Because I'm not old enough. But one more year and be able to FFL ship to my local dealer and get one.