I am surprised by how few people on this site intend to use a gun as their method

[MicropBaldCurrycel]

I for one have chosen this as i live in a third world country with a high crime rate so its easy to get a gun.

At first i was against it for the mess and worrying about fucking it up or people who find it(my body) will be traumatized

But i read its something like 94 percent success rate, one of the most reliable if not most reliable methods.

and then i though fuck it, death is messy, why would i be so vain as to worry what my body would look like anyway? i wont even be around and i have no one who would care (besides one person)

But in my religion (family not me) we cremate the bodies anyway so i will be ash.

in fact all bodies become ash, all body's decay and rot, even if preserved whats the point? even an embalmed body wont last after a 100 years . everything decays, the human body and life is messy.

as for the people who have to clean up the mess? they chose the profession and they get paid to clean up these scenes, id just be one of their thousands they see, might as well give them some work to keep them busy.

so im strongly leaning towards gunshot to the head, theres even cases where people used 2 guns to each side of the head and its like 100% fatal.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The gun was my last option. I tried to get SN but they wouldn't deliver it to my house so I bought an AR-15 I did my research so I know exactly where to aim and I cock the gun and put it in my mouth then pull the trigger so I can build up the confidence to pull the trigger without thinking or freezing up and yes it's working. I planned on doing it on this day 2 weeks ago but 1 of my favorite artists is dropping an album this Friday, so I'm sticking around until further notice lol

Anyone using gun method should check out this video by the 6x world champion 26 x national champion:


Also imo I don't see how a human could survive a headshot point blank with an Ar-15 . Here he is achieving 3200 feet per second with that ammunition and that barrel length of 16 inches . A 20 inch barrel would be even faster
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[Quiet Desperation]

I assume a pretty large percentage of users of this site are from the US where half of all suicides are by gun but maybe I am incorrect in this assumption. It seems like SN is the go to method. Does anyone else plan to use a gun when the time comes or is it just me?

As to the title of your post, I think it's mostly a case of selection bias.

 

[Someone123]

I assume a pretty large percentage of users of this site are from the US where half of all suicides are by gun but maybe I am incorrect in this assumption. It seems like SN is the go to method. Does anyone else plan to use a gun when the time comes or is it just me?

I considered a gun, and it is true that about half of all suicides in the u.s. result from a gun. Guns are lethal about 80% of the time, but when they fail they so often leave horrible results, like faces half blown off. Sn, based on a collection of posts here, seems to work about 80% of the time as well (though this is an estimate and not from a study)- if you follow Stan's Guide protocol pretty closely. And if Sn fails people typically report that they feel sick for a few days but then get back to normal. I have seen some scientific articles showing recovery from SN attempts but I haven't found any cases yet where permanent damage resulted that was not fatal, though of course if a person is rescued with just the wrong timing this might happen. So with about the same chance of success and much better results if it fails, there is a strong case than Sn is a better method than a firearm. If you go to youtube and search by "gunshot suicide attempt survivor" you will see many videos of people with their faces severely damaged by this attempt. Once this happens it becomes very difficult for them to try again, so they have to live with this destroyed face for many years. If an Sn attempt fails it is very easy to try again- a few people who have posted here seemed to ctb on their second Sn attempt, based on the posts here. So the case is very strong that Sn is a better method.

 

[Alex6216]

It seems to me that most people here are from places with restricted gun access or have restricted gun access due to something putting them on a blacklist. I personally dont use a gun because I can't get a gun no matter what I do.
Another factor is that a lot of people are misinformed and believe guns can fail and make you brain-damaged forever, they hear spook stories of this happening and think this will always be the case when in reality this only happens when you aim at your chin like the movies, if you aim to the brainstem you wont fail

 

[Someone123]

It seems to me that most people here are from places with restricted gun access or have restricted gun access due to something putting them on a blacklist. I personally dont use a gun because I can't get a gun no matter what I do.
Another factor is that a lot of people are misinformed and believe guns can fail and make you brain-damaged forever, they hear spook stories of this happening and think this will always be the case when in reality this only happens when you aim at your chin like the movies, if you aim to the brainstem you wont fail

That is really not accurate- I've done a lot of research on this, but gun was my first choice method for a long time, but it just isn't reliable enough. Shooting inside the mouth or at the side of the head failed some of the time, maybe 20%, and hitting the brain stem is unreliable as well- it is three inches long and 3/4 of an inch wide, right on top of the spine- it is so easy to miss and have it just go out your neck. Hitting the brain stem is reliable for murder sneaking up on someone from the back, but not for suicide. If you search on youtube by "failed gun suicide attempt" you will find amnya people who have failed at this method, many with their faces half blown off. The gun's recoil is a factor in this. If you aim at the brainstem there is a really good chance of missing it, since it is 3/4 on an inch wide and bullets are under 1/2" wide. Hollow point bullets can help some, as well as shitguns, and these methods fail too. Some videos are around off failed a shotgun attempts, and they are horrible. Sn is a much better method- abot the same reliability without the downside risk if it fails.

 

[rationaldeath]

That is really not accurate- I've done a lot of research on this, but gun was my first choice method for a long time, but it just isn't reliable enough. Shooting inside the mouth or at the side of the head failed some of the time, maybe 20%, and hitting the brain stem is unreliable as well- it is three inches long and 3/4 of an inch wide, right on top of the spine- it is so easy to miss and have it just go out your neck. Hitting the brain stem is reliable for murder sneaking up on someone from the back, but not for suicide. If you search on youtube by "failed gun suicide attempt" you will find amnya people who have failed at this method, many with their faces half blown off. The gun's recoil is a factor in this. If you aim at the brainstem there is a really good chance of missing it, since it is 3/4 on an inch wide and bullets are under 1/2" wide. Hollow point bullets can help some, as well as shitguns, and these methods fail too. Some videos are around off failed a shotgun attempts, and they are horrible. Sn is a much better method- abot the same reliability without the downside risk if it fails.

I still have yet to see a single survivor of a point blank shotgun or high powered rifle shot aimed anywhere near the center mass of the brain, and it's not difficult to do that if you've spent a bit of time practicing. Using a powerful round will cause a massive initial wound cavity much larger than the size of the actual bullet, plus at point blank the gasses exiting the barrel will cause a massive amount of destruction by themselves. With a good choice of ammunition and some time spent looking into aim/anatomy I think firearms are virtually 100% success rate.

 

[Someone123]

I still have yet to see a single survivor of a point blank shotgun or high powered rifle shot aimed anywhere near the center mass of the brain, and it's not difficult to do that if you've spent a bit of time practicing. Using a powerful round will cause a massive initial wound cavity much larger than the size of the actual bullet, plus at point blank the gasses exiting the barrel will cause a massive amount of destruction by themselves. With a good choice of ammunition and some time spent looking into aim/anatomy I think firearms are virtually 100% success rate.

That is probably true but most gun suicide attemp[ts are by a handgun and this isn't as reliable, which is why the rate of success in the u.s. for firearms in about 80%.

 

[Circles]

I assume a pretty large percentage of users of this site are from the US where half of all suicides are by gun but maybe I am incorrect in this assumption. It seems like SN is the go to method. Does anyone else plan to use a gun when the time comes or is it just me?

I have a gun but my main method is SN. If I can I don't want to traumatize anybody by seeing a dead body with blood everywhere. Plus I don't want to die in such an instant and would rather reflect on it if I even can.

 

[Someone123]

I have a gun but my main method is SN. If I can I don't want to traumatize anybody by seeing a dead body with blood everywhere. Plus I don't want to die in such an instant and would rather reflect on it if I even can.

One big advantage of Sn is that it is aboutr as reliable as firearms- maybe 80%- and if it fails after a few days of feeling sick you're generally ok and can try again. With a firearm if it fails you may not get another chance- who's going to sell a gun to a person who has half their face blown off?

 

[Circles]

One big advantage of Sn is that it is aboutr as reliable as firearms- maybe 80%- and if it fails after a few days of feeling sick you're generally ok and can try again. With a firearm if it fails you may not get another chance- who's going to sell a gun to a person who has half their face blown off?

I get that but sometimes we have few options for methods so we have to deal with what we got and the chances we have. If I lost my SN or whatever god forbid, then I have no choice but to use my handgun or worse hanging.

 

[its-about-time]

Its a good hobby, but an expensive one. Guns and ammo are (for the most part) super expensive, now more than ever. I've only gone once but shooting is a lot of fun if you respect the guns and are carful about safety and everything. Anyway that doesn't really matter to my point, but I felt like saying it anyway. Anyway anyway you don't need skill or precision to blow your brains across the wall. Its so popular among American suicides for a reason. Assuming you have a gun and bullet that's at least only partially trash and not completely trash, you just point the dangerous end at our head and pull the trigger.

Unfortunately this is not the case. Failed gun attempts happen. Approximately 1/10 gun attempts are not lethal. Were they all in the head—no, but I'd speculate most gun suicide attempts are aimed at the brain. Link below has lots of stats on firearm suicide.

Firearm Suicide in the United States

Firearm suicide is preventable, and addressing it is an essential element of any strategy to reduce gun violence in America.

everytownresearch.org

I know of several failed attempts with a gun personally. One used a shotgun and failed. You can imagine the permanent damage. 1/10 chance of failure is not as high as other methods, but it's too high for some people considering the devastating consequences.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Guns scare me. Everything scares me.

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

Lack of adequate research and education will increase the chance of failure when trying to suicide by gun. Many, if not most, of the failures were due to lack of knowledge on how it should be done. Like many other methods, good research and education will increase the chance of success - and having a steady hand.

Side note: You can practice the 'steady hand' part by laying a dime on the gun barrel and pulling the trigger. Continue practicing until you can do it over and over without the coin falling off.

 

[Someone123]

I get that but sometimes we have few options for methods so we have to deal with what we got and the chances we have. If I lost my SN or whatever god forbid, then I have no choice but to use my handgun or worse hanging.

Is hanging worse though? At least you don't have to live with your face half blown off with hanging if the attempt fails.

 

[speck]

There is such a high failure rate for nervous people. You can use a shot gun if you have long arms but you still take a risk that you'll flinch. I've heard too many horrible stories about people living through the experience- if you mess that up you've got triple problems.
Personally I feel that I've suffered enough, I want a really relaxing end.

 

[Alex6216]

That is probably true but most gun suicide attemp[ts are by a handgun and this isn't as reliable, which is why the rate of success in the u.s. for firearms in about 80%.

The 80% number is because not everyone commits suicide via gun to the brain stem, some people aim for their heart or chin because they dont know better. I have yet seen anyone who failed and DIDNT have a blown off chin, this proves that EVERY gun fail is due to aiming to the chin, like I said DONT AIM AT THE CHIN, AIM TO YOUR EAR that will 100% kill you

 

[Someone123]

The 80% number is because not everyone commits suicide via gun to the brain stem, some people aim for their heart or chin because they dont know better. I have yet seen anyone who failed and DIDNT have a blown off chin, this proves that EVERY gun fail is due to aiming to the chin, like I said DONT AIM AT THE CHIN, AIM TO YOUR EAR that will 100% kill you

That is not accurate. I did a lot of research and people who shoot inside the mouth have a significant survial rate and people who shoot from the side of the head have a significant survival rate. Also, it is easy to miss the brain stem if people try for it - it is only 3/4 of an inch wide and people often miss this and then in goes out the neck and they are released from the hospital the some day, oftentimes, because no damage was done. I have done a lot of research on this method, and I will start finding these articles and posting from these articles as time permits. It is not easy to hit the brain stem on a suicide attempt, especially considering the effect of the recoil of the gun.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

If I had access to a gun, I'd use it as a multi-method - noose on, drink OD, shoot head, full-hang, goodbye!

 

[Someone123]

If I had access to a gun, I'd use it as a multi-method - noose on, drink OD, shoot head, full-hang, goodbye!

TRuthfully, full hang by itself is more reliable than a gun if you are not interrupted- full hang is maybe the most reliable method.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

TRuthfully, full hang by itself is more reliable than a gun if you are not interrupted- full hang is maybe the most reliable method.

But if we had a similar sample size for 'full-hang' vs 'noose on, drink OD, shoot head, full-hang', which do you think would be more successful? Maybe they'd be both as successful as each other, I don't know!

 

[nameeater]

If I had access to a gun, I'd probably still go with a different method. The aftermath would be traumatic for anyone that came across it. Plus, if it were to fail, I'd rather not have my face be permanently disfigured as my appearance is practically the only thing I have going for me. Therefore, using a gun would likely be a last resort.

 

[Someone123]

But if we had a similar sample size for 'full-hang' vs 'noose on, drink OD, shoot head, full-hang', which do you think would be more successful? Maybe they'd be both as successful as each other, I don't know!

I think full hang by itself would be much more successful, if not interrupted- because shooting fails about 20% of the time, but shooting will also call an ambulance to be called in most cases, so that a person could be rescued but with serious damage. It is rare that combining more than one method helps. One example where is does help is seen in the golden gate bridge, where if someone doesn't die from the impact and internal bleeding they will often drown- so a 99% success rate here- or other similar situtaions. But the golden gate bridge is so heavily patrolled that it is not a good option any more, and by next year the nets will be up and it won't be an option at all.

 

[Alex6216]

TRuthfully, full hang by itself is more reliable than a gun if you are not interrupted- full hang is maybe the most reliable method.

That's just a lie. You can argue a gun isnt 100% effective but to argue hanging is better is plain rubbish, hanging will squeeze your throat and cause your animal brain to thrash around which may loosen the rope. There's also a chance you will be unlucky be not blackout after 10-16 seconds, in addition if someone finds you they easily can save you leaving you brain-damaged for life. A .45 acp or higher caliber gun to the brain is way better than hanging by a long-shot, if I had a gun right now I would've been dead years ago.

But if we had a similar sample size for 'full-hang' vs 'noose on, drink OD, shoot head, full-hang', which do you think would be more successful? Maybe they'd be both as successful as each other, I don't know!

The noose, gun and OD method is 100x more likely to kill than normal hanging alone, the gun will be 90% likely to kill if you do it right and if it doesn't outright kill you in a millisecond you will be bleeding to death

 

[Pain In The Ass]

I think full hang by itself would be much more successful, if not interrupted- because shooting fails about 20% of the time, but shooting will also call an ambulance to be called in most cases, so that a person could be rescued but with serious damage. It is rare that combining more than one method helps. One example where is does help is seen in the golden gate bridge, where if someone doesn't die from the impact and internal bleeding they will often drown- so a 99% success rate here- or other similar situtaions. But the golden gate bridge is so heavily patrolled that it is not a good option any more, and by next year the nets will be up and it won't be an option at all.

For some reason, it makes me really laugh to imagine someone jumping down on to the nets, then shooting themselves in the head! Just the logic behind doing that.

We have Beachy Head cliffs in the UK, which is 500 ft at it's highest points, twice the golden gate, and if you jump in the right spot, you hit rocks or wet sand. But there is a suicide-squad there, patrolling for the cliffs for loner-oddballs who look like they're thinking of jumping.

Would using a 'silencer' stop people alerting police? Or have I been watching too many films where they use gun 'silencers'?!

 

[Someone123]

That's just a lie. You can argue a gun isnt 100% effective but to argue hanging is better is plain rubbish, hanging will squeeze your throat and cause your animal brain to thrash around which may loosen the rope. There's also a chance you will be unlucky be not blackout after 10-16 seconds, in addition if someone finds you they easily can save you leaving you brain-damaged for life. A .45 acp or higher caliber gun to the brain is way better than hanging by a long-shot, if I had a gun right now I would've been dead years ago.

Full suspension hanging, if not interrupted (for example if you have a house to yourself) is extremely reliable if done in a competent way- there is no way the rope call be loosened in full suspension- you must be thinking of partial, which is very unreliable. In full suspension the rope contacts your neck only, and no part of your body touches anything else- there is no way for the rope to loosen. It can break if it is not strong enough. But done competently full suspension is as close to a 100% method as you will find. Just look on youtube for survivors of gunshot suicide attempts, there are many.

We have Beachy Head cliffs in the UK, which is 500 ft at it's highest points, twice the golden gate, and if you jump in the right spot, you hit rocks or wet sand. But there is a suicide-squad there, patrolling for the cliffs for loner-oddballs who look like they're thinking of jumping.

I've seen some people posting that it is still feasible here, yu just don't want to look depressed and you need to go quickly when you have a chance and you need to go back another day if you don't get a good chance on a given day.

 

[NobodyKnowsMe]

Would using a 'silencer' stop people alerting police?

Yes, very likely, but that is if you can get your hands on a silencer. Here in the US, where getting a gun is pretty easy, getting a silencer is EXTREMELY difficult.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

Yes, very likely, but that is if you can get your hands on a silencer. Here in the US, where getting a gun is pretty easy, getting a silencer is EXTREMELY difficult.

Right. I guess the only reason you'd want one is so you can do something you shouldn't be doing, whilst minimizing attention from anyone who may report you.

 

[Someone123]

Yes, very likely, but that is if you can get your hands on a silencer. Here in the US, where getting a gun is pretty easy, getting a silencer is EXTREMELY difficult.

There are home-made silencers that people can make, I'm sure you can find instructions of the internet, but unlike in the movies, silencers lessen the sound but don't eliminate it. A gunshot is at lkeast 160 decibels, and the best silencers reduce sounds by about 43 decibels, so it's still as loud as a passing ambulance siren even with the best available silencer. You can research silencers on google and see that this is the case. Even with a silencer a gunshot is still quite loud. Movies depict silencers in a completely unrealistic way.

 

[NoFuneral]

Wish I could get a gun. With that it's easy and painless.