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nohopeforethefuture

nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
I see a lot of quotes/posts/articles online about suicidal people who are trying to live. Ill admit that there are days even I feel like that.

But not right now. Right now, I'm not looking for reasons to continue. I'm trying to find an opening to leave. I'm just curious what you guys are doing. Are you looking for reasons to stay? Or are you looking for times to leave?
 
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iwanttodie000

Student
Feb 15, 2021
199
I'm looking for a time to leave, tentatively a few months from now. I have tried basically my whole life to live and i've failed miserably. I am not meant for this world, i hate it, esp over the last few years. I think some suicidal ppl do want to live and can, but i'm not one of them. I'm so ready to check out.
 
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Avyn

Experienced
Jan 27, 2021
223
I'm looking for a time to leave, tentatively a few months from now. I have tried basically my whole life to live and i've failed miserably. I am not meant for this world, i hate it, esp over the last few years. I think some suicidal ppl do want to live and can, but i'm not one of them. I'm so ready to check out.
I feel the same, like I wanna keep trying and living but its like everyhting is against me and Im not meant to be here. Its like Im just being alive to cbt at this point lol
And of course most suicidal people want to live, but cant deal with the struggle of being alive because of whatever situation they are in
 
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iwanttodie000

Student
Feb 15, 2021
199
I feel the same, like I wanna keep trying and living but its like everyhting is against me and Im not meant to be here. Its like Im just being alive to cbt at this point lol
I feel all of that. The only reason I haven't done it is because of a small handful of ppl i don't want to hurt, but even that is being overridden by my suicidal thoughts. I feel it's inevitable at this point
 
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FarAcrossTheWater

Experienced
Sep 4, 2020
264
I'm actively trying to die at the end of my 20s. This world is not for everyone. The idea that everyone needs to live is absurd.
 
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Avyn

Experienced
Jan 27, 2021
223
I feel all of that. The only reason I haven't done it is because of a small handful of ppl i don't want to hurt, but even that is being overridden by my suicidal thoughts. I feel it's inevitable at this point
Omg me too, the only reason Im alive is because I have always worried about the people that care about me. I dont want to hurt them. It is very sad that we dont want to live but still do because of others, theyre the ones that keep us going
 
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iwanttodie000

Student
Feb 15, 2021
199
Omg me too, the only reason Im alive is because I have always worried about the people that care about me. I dont want to hurt them. It is very sad that we dont want to live but still do because of others, theyre the ones that keep us going
Again feel all that lol. It's hell to live for others and i've done it for a long time. No one should have to feel like we have to live for others. I'm living a life I didn't ask for. But I plan on spelling it out in my suicide note and letting them know that it had nothing to do with them as to why i ctb, hopefully that brings them some sort of peace
 
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nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
I'm looking for a time to leave, tentatively a few months from now. I have tried basically my whole life to live and i've failed miserably. I am not meant for this world, i hate it, esp over the last few years. I think some suicidal ppl do want to live and can, but i'm not one of them. I'm so ready to check out.
I agree. Suicidal is a feeling like any other. But its all dependent on our reasons for feeling so and our predisposed way of handling things. Some people can get better. I dont believe I'm one of them either...

I hope things go well for you, no matter what you choose. That's all we want in the end really.
 
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Loser47

Student
Jan 14, 2021
130
I'm doing neither, I should either kill myself ASAP or get my shit together and start working towards having better life.
 
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nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
I'm doing neither, I should either kill myself ASAP or get my shit together and start working towards having better life.
I was doing that for a long time. A few years. Eventually the stagnant nothingness eats away at you. In my case it pushed me to attempt. I'm very naive and sheltered and not very creative so i wasnt successful. Didnt even hurt myself. But thanks to this site I can finally do it I think. Sometimes...suicide is the light at the end of the tunnel. At least thats how it feels for me anyways.
 
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Loser47

Student
Jan 14, 2021
130
I was doing that for a long time. A few years. Eventually the stagnant nothingness eats away at you. In my case it pushed me to attempt. I'm very naive and sheltered and not very creative so i wasnt successful. Didnt even hurt myself. But thanks to this site I can finally do it I think. Sometimes...suicide is the light at the end of the tunnel. At least thats how it feels for me anyways.
Death does seem like a gift.
 
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Avyn

Experienced
Jan 27, 2021
223
The problem is that most don't understand the relief when we end it all, or about to end it. Most people that end up killing themselves were very comfortable, chill and happy in their final moments, hours, days. We grow up with everybody around us teaching us how suicide is bad and for weak, selfish people. We end up living for other people and not for ourselves, we end up worrying about what they say, what they will feel and think about us when we are gone. Do we want them to talk shit about us after we die? Do we want them to be sad when we die?
Some don't care and think about what's gonna happen after death, because "you will be gone anyway, you can't experience the consequences"
But in the end, if more people talked about suicide, about mental health and could offer more help than stupid comments like "Oh Im sorry", we would be at a better place right now. Hell even my own mother told me shit like "Depression doesnt exist, you are too young to be depressed, you have no reason to be depressed" "You wanna die? Okay then go jump off the window you weakling", had a friend blame and break up with his girlfriend because "she didnt stop cutting herself when he told her to stop in a couple weeks" etc. Theres way too many people thinking this way. Instead of wishing it was different, since it wont ever be different, we have to be the ones that support others and teach our friends/relatives what to NOT do/say when someones suicidal.

Tldr, Id love to kill myself, hell it is even one of my dreams and on my to-do list. But people having a negative mindset stop me, also people that care about me too. I dont want to cause them any pain, I know damn too well how that shit feels
 
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iwanttodie000

Student
Feb 15, 2021
199
I was doing that for a long time. A few years. Eventually the stagnant nothingness eats away at you. In my case it pushed me to attempt. I'm very naive and sheltered and not very creative so i wasnt successful. Didnt even hurt myself. But thanks to this site I can finally do it I think. Sometimes...suicide is the light at the end of the tunnel. At least thats how it feels for me anyways.
Sounds like me. I've made a few pathetic attempts that didn't do much to me. I am so thankful for this site, it's giving me some courage to follow through and to hear like minded thoughts is so refreshing. If ppl don't have the thoughts like we do, they will never understand. Suicide is the light at the end of the tunnel for me too, at least it feels that way.
The problem is that most don't understand the relief when we end it all, or about to end it. Most people that end up killing themselves were very comfortable, chill and happy in their final moments, hours, days. We grow up with everybody around us teaching us how suicide is bad and for weak, selfish people. We end up living for other people and not for ourselves, we end up worrying about what they say, what they will feel and think about us when we are gone. Do we want them to talk shit about us after we die? Do we want them to be sad when we die?
Some don't care and think about what's gonna happen after death, because "you will be gone anyway, you can't experience the consequences"
But in the end, if more people talked about suicide, about mental health and could offer more help than stupid comments like "Oh Im sorry", we would be at a better place right now. Hell even my own mother told me shit like "Depression doesnt exist, you are too young to be depressed, you have no reason to be depressed" "You wanna die? Okay then go jump off the window you weakling", had a friend blame and break up with his girlfriend because "she didnt stop cutting herself when he told her to stop in a couple weeks" etc. Theres way too many people thinking this way. Instead of wishing it was different, since it wont ever be different, we have to be the ones that support others and teach our friends/relatives what to NOT do/say when someones suicidal.

Tldr, Id love to kill myself, hell it is even one of my dreams and on my to-do list. But people having a negative mindset stop me, also people that care about me too. I dont want to cause them any pain, I know damn too well how that shit feels
THIS!! All of this!
 
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demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,383
Every time I interact with other humans it becomes more apparent why I can't stand to be here on earth.
 
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nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
The problem is that most don't understand the relief when we end it all, or about to end it. Most people that end up killing themselves were very comfortable, chill and happy in their final moments, hours, days. We grow up with everybody around us teaching us how suicide is bad and for weak, selfish people. We end up living for other people and not for ourselves, we end up worrying about what they say, what they will feel and think about us when we are gone. Do we want them to talk shit about us after we die? Do we want them to be sad when we die?
Some don't care and think about what's gonna happen after death, because "you will be gone anyway, you can't experience the consequences"
But in the end, if more people talked about suicide, about mental health and could offer more help than stupid comments like "Oh Im sorry", we would be at a better place right now. Hell even my own mother told me shit like "Depression doesnt exist, you are too young to be depressed, you have no reason to be depressed" "You wanna die? Okay then go jump off the window you weakling", had a friend blame and break up with his girlfriend because "she didnt stop cutting herself when he told her to stop in a couple weeks" etc. Theres way too many people thinking this way. Instead of wishing it was different, since it wont ever be different, we have to be the ones that support others and teach our friends/relatives what to NOT do/say when someones suicidal.

Tldr, Id love to kill myself, hell it is even one of my dreams and on my to-do list. But people having a negative mindset stop me, also people that care about me too. I dont want to cause them any pain, I know damn too well how that shit feels
That's awful. People are awful. I low key just feel like everyone should die tbh... I'm sorry you feel that way. I understand how that can be to an extent. Someday things will change. For better or worse who can tell but it'll change...
Sounds like me. I've made a few pathetic attempts that didn't do much to me. I am so thankful for this site, it's giving me some courage to follow through and to hear like minded thoughts is so refreshing. If ppl don't have the thoughts like we do, they will never understand. Suicide is the light at the end of the tunnel for me too, at least it feels that way.

THIS!! All of this!
True. There's more honest community on this site than anywhere else I've ever found...
Every time I interact with other humans it becomes more apparent why I can't stand to be here on earth.
Ha. I feel similarly.
 
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notreallynow

Member
Oct 21, 2020
56
As long as you're breathing part of you is 'trying'. Rationally, I know I have felt intensely lonely and unhappy my entire life and it will not get better. Life is usually pretty fucking predictable. My choice is either to accept - drugs, meditation whatever, or commit suicide. Since I will end up dead anyway (that's life for you), and since I have no children, no useful vocation or talents, and generally have contributed absolutely no real use or pleasure to society or the people around me, dying sooner rather than later is the better choice. I don't LIKE it , but the other side is treating death as this unthinkable thing, when it is really the one we've all got to put up with sooner or later.

I like people, I like life. Don't regret being born, don't see the point in wailing about suffering when it all ends anyway. You don't lose anything by having lived. It ends.
But I've felt sweetness, I've felt love and I don't want to carry on after the best bits over. I know I don't feel like normal people do, they can't understand that, understand really what it is like to live in a world where you just aren't attached to anyone. It's in me. I could get away from bad people, take medication and exercise for no energy, the possibility of finding a job, but the feeling thing, it is in me, no matter how good someone is to me, I can't make them mean anything to me at all, I can't make myself think or care about them or treat them as anything other than, sounds, sounds and sources of distraction and drugs and amusement and validation. But I remember what it felt like. I think I could be happy if I didn't remember what it felt like, when my world was not just me and I didn't feel alone. And its been almost 3 years, I can't accept. I don't want to.
Hope kills the soul. But I think I am approaching acceptance. I am at school- failing this year absolutely, so I have to repeat it, that's 3 and a half more years, just under that, where I will have a place to live. And my dad is alive still. 2 very fragile things, home, parent. The structure and routine is something, but fighting alone, in the world, no, I don't feel like it. There's no warmth to make it worth it. My dad lives in a country that is far and I do not like it or write the language. So i will be roomless, have to eke out a living, and I don't feel like it. I'd pull a Bartleby, but passive rejection doesn't work. If they physically kick you out onto the street, you might think, hmm, I'll just lie on this pavement. But people would make threats, there would be the cold, hunger. You'd give in and start looking for shelter. Start trying to live, because there's no practical alternative, because your body does it by default. And you could go on decades like this. Living, because its what the body does. Scraping by.. no, I can't do it past graduation. Hold your nose, don't think about it, just get on with it.
Life has never surprised me, so I want to take it by surprise. Do the scary unthinkable thing for once. I was the only kid who was too pussy to hang upside down from the monkey bars...
Fixated, I like commitment, I have to do it, I had to promise myself to do it because I can't live without some kind of commitment. And me such an unstructured person. I need something to hold onto, and I just can't commit to life. I have to pick one, I can't go hmm we'll see, can't set myself up for being broken again, I need certainty, and life, there is such an unimaginably deep sea of pain, so many dreadful things that can happen, that I just couldn't think of living without that escape, but then for me it's impossible to live without that shadow.. everything is all or nothing. I have to take it. Make a promise wedding vow style. I need something to look forward to, I need the certainty of no more hurt, it's worth the tiny chance of 'things could get better'
But no, I'm not the lucky one, never won so much as a raffle my whole life.
I think it is better to embrace and accept. Last failed attempt 16 months ago- last feeling was - surprise, disappointment - is this it? And it was so close. So at least I can do a little better. More finality, I don't know what yet.
 
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nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
As long as you're breathing part of you is 'trying'. Rationally, I know I have felt intensely lonely and unhappy my entire life and it will not get better. Life is usually pretty fucking predictable. My choice is either to accept - drugs, meditation whatever, or commit suicide. Since I will end up dead anyway (that's life for you), and since I have no children, no useful vocation or talents, and generally have contributed absolutely no real use or pleasure to society or the people around me, dying sooner rather than later is the better choice. I don't LIKE it , but the other side is treating death as this unthinkable thing, when it is really the one we've all got to put up with sooner or later.

I like people, I like life. Don't regret being born, don't see the point in wailing about suffering when it all ends anyway. You don't lose anything by having lived. It ends.
But I've felt sweetness, I've felt love and I don't want to carry on after the best bits over. I know I don't feel like normal people do, they can't understand that, understand really what it is like to live in a world where you just aren't attached to anyone. It's in me. I could get away from bad people, take medication and exercise for no energy, the possibility of finding a job, but the feeling thing, it is in me, no matter how good someone is to me, I can't make them mean anything to me at all, I can't make myself think or care about them or treat them as anything other than, sounds, sounds and sources of distraction and drugs and amusement and validation. But I remember what it felt like. I think I could be happy if I didn't remember what it felt like, when my world was not just me and I didn't feel alone. And its been almost 3 years, I can't accept. I don't want to.
Hope kills the soul. But I think I am approaching acceptance. I am at school- failing this year absolutely, so I have to repeat it, that's 3 and a half more years, just under that, where I will have a place to live. And my dad is alive still. 2 very fragile things, home, parent. The structure and routine is something, but fighting alone, in the world, no, I don't feel like it. There's no warmth to make it worth it. My dad lives in a country that is far and I do not like it or write the language. So i will be roomless, have to eke out a living, and I don't feel like it. I'd pull a Bartleby, but passive rejection doesn't work. If they physically kick you out onto the street, you might think, hmm, I'll just lie on this pavement. But people would make threats, there would be the cold, hunger. You'd give in and start looking for shelter. Start trying to live, because there's no practical alternative, because your body does it by default. And you could go on decades like this. Living, because its what the body does. Scraping by.. no, I can't do it past graduation. Hold your nose, don't think about it, just get on with it.
Life has never surprised me, so I want to take it by surprise. Do the scary unthinkable thing for once. I was the only kid who was too pussy to hang upside down from the monkey bars...
Fixated, I like commitment, I have to do it, I had to promise myself to do it because I can't live without some kind of commitment. And me such an unstructured person. I need something to hold onto, and I just can't commit to life. I have to pick one, I can't go hmm we'll see, can't set myself up for being broken again, I need certainty, and life, there is such an unimaginably deep sea of pain, so many dreadful things that can happen, that I just couldn't think of living without that escape, but then for me it's impossible to live without that shadow.. everything is all or nothing. I have to take it. Make a promise wedding vow style. I need something to look forward to, I need the certainty of no more hurt, it's worth the tiny chance of 'things could get better'
But no, I'm not the lucky one, never won so much as a raffle my whole life.
I think it is better to embrace and accept. Last failed attempt 16 months ago- last feeling was - surprise, disappointment - is this it? And it was so close. So at least I can do a little better. More finality, I don't know what yet.
I feel what you are trying to convey. Sometimes emotions dont make sense but I try to haphazardly type them out anyways. But the confusion is part of the feeling.

What you said about the body trying to live is true. It would take weeks for the body to die naturally if you just left it alone. Weeks of agony. Better to plan a shorter painful death vs that. I too wish for happiness. But as you said so perfectly, I can't make myself feel. I can't make myself love people or care about them or anything. I'm just defective by the worlds standards. I am ready...
 
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oneanonymous

Wizard
Feb 5, 2020
694
I'm finally trying to live again, but it comes and goes. I still have days where I think I will kill myself soon. Usually at some point every single day, I feel that even if it's just for a few minutes that day. Really, I still think I'll probably die from suicide at some point, I'm just trying to make that as far into the future as I can. You never know what could change during that time. Maybe they'll find the cure for anxiety. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me I left in a month. I'm trying though.

Every time I interact with other humans it becomes more apparent why I can't stand to be here on earth.
This too. I can be in a great mood and someone will make the smallest comment that will just ruin my day and take me right back to wanting to off myself. For instance, I was watching this thing with Jerry Seinfeld the other day and he was talking about why he doesn't give money to the homeless. His reasoning, other than it also not benefiting him, was that by giving them money, he's agreeing with them that they can't fix their situation. I seriously just stood up, paced around my room and had an imaginary debate with him about how asinine that comment was haha. I mean, imagine how it feels when people do or say stuff that bothers me to my face. I just can't handle super judgemental people, or disrespectful people. I've snapped back to rude customers when I worked retail and as a server because I just can't take it. Same way with mean managers. I could be facing homelessness and still not care in the moment about getting fired for snapping back to someone being disrespectful to me. The funny thing is, I'm always very friendly and agreeable, especially at work so most people are very taken aback when I stick up for myself.. with a fiery attitude ha.
 
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Hatari

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Apr 9, 2019
86
Not planning to be here beyond next Friday. Hopefully I get it right.
 
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sorella santini

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Jan 19, 2021
87
There are days where I can suppress my feelings of despair, when my circumstance seems bearable. It's on those days when I think I might try continuing to live. But most days my in between thoughts are centered on facilitating my plan and imagining how I will find the courage to execute it.
 
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BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,801
Doing both, mixed strats ftw.
 
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Marktheghost

Paragon
Feb 20, 2020
911
I'm sort of in between too. I can't work out what's holding me back from killing myself. For some reason I haven't managed to bring myself to do it though. So I'm kind of trying to find reasons to live. I've not found any yet though.
 
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Sensei

剣道家
Nov 4, 2019
6,336
I want to live and to die. The situation is hopeful and hopeless. It's a dilemma without a solution.
 
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angelfeather

Student
Oct 31, 2020
184
I've had this. It's like I'm two different people at times. One part of me tries to find reasons to live and the other wants to find reasons to die. I had an enjoyable afternoon out walking yesterday in the sun down by the waterfront with all the boats and by the bars thinking I can't wait until everything reopens to go for a drink as though my life is going to continue and then hours later and today I'm going over my plans for when I end my life. I still believe I won't be here much longer but it's days like those that really mess with my head and confuse me.
 
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Sslsh

Experienced
Jan 29, 2020
293
The single best thing that can happen to me is that I spontaneously die right now. And this is the feeling that I have had for years now. I am apathetic towards life and have ZERO will to live. If I had a little lesser apathy I would have actually gone ahead and CTB'd by now but oh well.
 
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BluesRunTheGame

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Dec 15, 2020
1,715
Passively suicidal. Currently allowing myself to live I guess. A bit like @Sensei; both hopeful and hopeless at the same time.
 
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RedHarlequin

Mage
Jul 8, 2018
530
I still want to try out ketamine and TMS for my depression. I owe it to my mother and my boyfriend. If that doesn't work I'm out of here. Surprisingly, the days I feel better are the days I think about killing myself the most. When I'm really depressed I cannot get over hurting my mother but when I feel a bit better I just want to get rid of these rocks in my pockets by killing myself.
I've had this. It's like I'm two different people at times. One part of me tries to find reasons to live and the other wants to find reasons to die. I had an enjoyable afternoon out walking yesterday in the sun down by the waterfront with all the boats and by the bars thinking I can't wait until everything reopens to go for a drink as though my life is going to continue and then hours later and today I'm going over my plans for when I end my life. I still believe I won't be here much longer but it's days like those that really mess with my head and confuse me.
I understand you so good, I am experiencing exactly the same thing.
 
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nohopeforethefuture

I deserve to die
Nov 30, 2020
127
I'm sort of in between too. I can't work out what's holding me back from killing myself. For some reason I haven't managed to bring myself to do it though. So I'm kind of trying to find reasons to live. I've not found any yet though.
Honestly, I think its the subconscious knowledge that you dont want to die really, you just want everything to be perfect. Fine. No more pain. But that is impossible...so we are torn between reality and hope.
 
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WornOutLife

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Mar 22, 2020
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I feel as if I were playing for both teams.
One month ago, I was trying to die. Now, I'm trying (and doing my best) to live.

This is really hard. The thing is, I'm sure this will be the last chance I will give to life.
 
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