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Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
I live in a very strict household as my grandparents don't really respect any privacily of mine and wants to know every single detail of what I do, speak to, and buy. I want to CTB and have no idea what method to use... I have done a lot of research on methods that will ensure non survival, but I cannot access those. I have attempted with bleach and self harm, but only left me with a very shitty body adding onto my suffering.
 
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virgilwalks

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Apr 7, 2022
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are you able to reach out in your community for assistance with your living situation ? is there someone you can trust to talk to about your grandparents ?
 
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Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
are you able to reach out in your community for assistance with your living situation ? is there someone you can trust to talk to about your grandparents ?
No, I left and lived on my own when I was 18 cuz of past family trauma/being kicked out, and more. I was on my own for a bit until I couldn't afford it anymore which my grandparents offered to take me in (which I was thankful for and had hope to get my mindset a little turned into what I am currently thinking. Although it was good and I'm still glad I'm not on the streets, there is a lot I have to throw away because of how they are. It doesn't make things better, but it wasn't like where I was before which makes me always think if I'm overreacting when I feel bad about being treated in some ways by them. CTB has always been a comforting thing to go to when I was down, but with current situations it is very hard to go through with a reliable method.
 
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virgilwalks

Student
Apr 7, 2022
121
It's good you are at least safe and housing secure. Your grandparents may be concerned because they know about self harm? Or they know you've had a rough time. They believe your life has value. We are here for you. How long have you been with your grandparents?
 
Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
It's good you are at least safe and housing secure. Your grandparents may be concerned because they know about self harm? Or they know you've had a rough time. They believe your life has value. We are here for you. How long have you been with your grandparents?
They let my dad do the things he did to me because they told me how he would brag about it on the phone to them while he was drunk. They know about how I feel and constantly complain how emotionless I am, they know I self harm as well but they shame me for ruining my body. It is one thing I hate about myself, how a lot of people I have met care mostly about my looks/body. I've been with them for 7 months now but they constantly are on me for nothing. They have gotten physical towards me for not acting the way they want me to, or by simply not giving them a reaction at all. I seem to frustrate them a lot for no reason so they tend to compare me a lot to friends I have.
 
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Disaster

Experienced
Jan 24, 2023
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You sound like a very young person who should be able to get independent, so it would be awful if you CTB if your situation is "fixable". But I believe everyone should have a choice, I understand how having some plan out can bring peace and actually give strength to face the obstacles.
I guess in this situation partial suspension hanging would be my choice. You'd need to read the Megathread and PPH, but I guess it should be possible in your situation.
I hope you will find some other solution and live a life you will find worth living, but as I said, everyone deserves a choice.
 
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twitchymouse

twitchymouse

hows the gutter doing?
Feb 19, 2023
28
i went through a lot at home too, sounds vaguely similar. you're quite young honestly i would advise you to wait it out for as long as you can. maybe soon you'll find a steady job where you can sustain yourself or find some friends who would be willing to take you in/share rent.
 
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Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
i went through a lot at home too, sounds vaguely similar. you're quite young honestly i would advise you to wait it out for as long as you can. maybe soon you'll find a steady job where you can sustain yourself or find some friends who would be willing to take you in/share rent.
Thanks, although I do try to wait and reach goals it doesn't excite me to do so. Before moving here I flunked out of HS because I physically could not leave my room even if I wanted to. At first I really was happy for myself actually finishing, but now I don't know. I have a job as well, but it's the same thing. My boyfriend tries to give me a reason, but I have such a hard time having emotional attachment to people that I don't see a point changing my mind.
You sound like a very young person who should be able to get independent, so it would be awful if you CTB if your situation is "fixable". But I believe everyone should have a choice, I understand how having some plan out can bring peace and actually give strength to face the obstacles.
I guess in this situation partial suspension hanging would be my choice. You'd need to read the Megathread and PPH, but I guess it should be possible in your situation.
I hope you will find some other solution and live a life you will find worth living, but as I said, everyone deserves a choice.
Thank you, I understand what you mean on postponing it. I gave myself some time to think about it, but with the mentality I have as of now... I don't think so.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
44,170
Bleach is well known for being a terrible, unreliable method that isn't recommended for a successful ctb. But I hate how hard it is to finally leave this world, it's just so incredibly unfair how people feel as though they have no choice but to feel trapped here, when other people try to force us to stay here then existence certainly becomes very prison like. There are simply no easy answers to this, I believe that if one has no privacy it's very difficult to ctb.
 
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Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
Bleach is well known for being a terrible, unreliable method that isn't recommended for a successful ctb. But I hate how hard it is to finally leave this world, it's just so incredibly unfair how people feel as they have no choice but to feel trapped here, when other people try to force us to stay here then existence certainly becomes very prison like. There are simply no easy answers to this, I believe that if one has no privacy it's very difficult to ctb.
Yeah, I've tried and fucked up how much food I can physically take in before I start puking it all out, and yes I think it is very hard having 0 privacy. I do not like being monitored 24/7, but it happens. I have read a lot on what the others told me and postponed it until I can actually either get things fixed, or find something lethal.
 
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ranaway

i am a horrible person.
Mar 2, 2023
56
I'm not sure exactly what to say, but I do want to encourage you to take some time to reflect and look around longer. If you do, you might eventually find a solution that works for you and lead the life you've might wanted. I wish you luck on your journey, no matter which route you take.
 
Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
I'm not sure exactly what to say, but I do want to encourage you to take some time to reflect and look around longer. If you do, you might eventually find a solution that works for you and lead the life you've might wanted. I wish you luck on your journey, no matter which route you take.
Thank you, I have thought about it. I can live life everyday without purpose... Like, not for anyone nor myself, but just because I'm here? I don't know how to phrase it. I can do that but I feel like a lot of things keep coming up to make myself feel either worse or just want out.
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

Seeker of Darkness
Sep 29, 2022
918
How far are you able to travel on your own? If you travel to somewhere that's high enough to jump from (at least 50m or ideally 100m+ from somewhere like a coastal cliff) that could be an option.

Also this may seem very unlikely but I best ask, how easy would it be for you to order stuff and hide it in your bedroom? The SN method could still be possible for you. The Inert Gas method sadly might be too difficult hiding some of the equipment.
 
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Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
How far are you able to travel on your own? If you travel to somewhere that's high enough to jump from (at least 50m or ideally 100m+ from somewhere like a coastal cliff) that could be an option.

Also this may seem very unlikely but I best ask, how easy would it be for you to order stuff and hide it in your bedroom? The SN method could still be possible for you. The Inert Gas method sadly might be too difficult hiding some of the equipment.
I am not allowed my house unless my grandparents know exactly where I go. I live right on the lake so I have many options of drowning, but not allowed to do so. I have rope since they know about my sex life, and they know I have razors. I want to do gas so badly because I know it's 100%. I'm afraid of partial suppression because I'm monitored constantly I don't want to live as a vegetable.
 
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Shadowlord900

Shadowlord900

Seeker of Darkness
Sep 29, 2022
918
I am not allowed my house unless my grandparents know exactly where I go. I live right on the lake so I have many options of drowning, but not allowed to do so. I have rope since they know about my sex life, and they know I have razors. I want to do gas so badly because I know it's 100%. I'm afraid of partial suppression because I'm monitored constantly I don't want to live as a vegetable.
How easy it would be to make up a lie/story to your grandparents so you can get out of the house? Or if they do allow you out do they follow/accompany you?
 
Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
How easy it would be to make up a lie/story to your grandparents so you can get out of the house? Or if they do allow you out do they follow/accompany you?
It is not easy to lie, and yes especially with how things are at the moment that I have a boyfriend. If I'm alone they will follow.
 
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Grayfield

Grayfield

Student
Feb 13, 2023
165
Living by the lake should make drowning easier. You don't need much time. Check out this
thread. Once you understand how it works, you'll realize it's quick and painless.
 
Ryojix

Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
Living by the lake should make drowning easier. You don't need much time. Check out this
thread. Once you understand how it works, you'll realize it's quick and painless.
Thank you so much, I read on other sites that it was very painful and sufferable. This does clear things up.
 
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ranaway

i am a horrible person.
Mar 2, 2023
56
Thank you, I have thought about it. I can live life everyday without purpose... Like, not for anyone nor myself, but just because I'm here? I don't know how to phrase it. I can do that but I feel like a lot of things keep coming up to make myself feel either worse or just want out.
I get what you mean; are you trying to tell me that you are just existing because you are "existing," not that you are genuinely "living"?
I believe that greater things will ultimately happen, so why not try living a little for yourself right now? Treat yourself well, speak up when something annoys you or gets in your way, start to avoid petty insults/comparison and maintain your temper, and believe that you shouldn't give it any thought because you are aware of who you are. Even if the outcome didn't really make you happy, the faults weren't on you, you are still making a move, create a progress and have an impact on your life. whether the impact is tiny or big, I believe it is still worth trying to.
 
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Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
I get what you mean; are you trying to tell me that you are just existing because you are "existing," not that you are genuinely "living"?
I believe that greater things will ultimately happen, so why not try living a little for yourself right now? Treat yourself well, speak up when something annoys you or gets in your way, start to avoid petty insults/comparison and maintain your temper, and believe that you shouldn't give it any thought because you are aware of who you are. Even if the outcome didn't really make you happy, the faults weren't on you, you are still making a move, create a progress and have an impact on your life. whether the impact is tiny or big, I believe it is still worth trying to.
That is very nice of you to say, I am trying to get help for my anger. It has gotten pretty bad where I am very physical with my bf, he's very understanding of it since I am the exact opposite when I'm myself. I feel very bad since for the most part I really do not remember doing those things he described I did. I have been apprehended by authorities a few times before when I lived with my father because of how he made me feel, and I would only tend to act on it when he was sober. I've been physically violent towards animals before, and mostly my own pets. I have been honest with my counselor/therapist about those actions, but I feel like they don't see it as a big deal (they just kind of avoid the topic or talking/help with those issues in the area). Which kind of makes me think that its ok for the most part.
 
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ranaway

i am a horrible person.
Mar 2, 2023
56
That is very nice of you to say, I am trying to get help for my anger. It has gotten pretty bad where I am very physical with my bf, he's very understanding of it since I am the exact opposite when I'm myself. I feel very bad since for the most part I really do not remember doing those things he described I did. I have been apprehended by authorities a few times before when I lived with my father because of how he made me feel, and I would only tend to act on it when he was sober. I've been physically violent towards animals before, and mostly my own pets. I have been honest with my counselor/therapist about those actions, but I feel like they don't see it as a big deal (they just kind of avoid the topic or talking/help with those issues in the area). Which kind of makes me think that its ok for the most part.
Any type of violent act is not right, except when you defend yourself from violent acts; otherwise, even if you were in a purely verbal situation and you were in the right, it still didn't give you the right to be violent towards others. As a person who also suffered from anger issues, I can understand how it feels to not be able to control yourself when the emotions are high. Whenever I got angry, I mostly couldn't control my words, and because I was still aware of myself, I couldn't hurt others, so I started to hurt myself, like pulling my hair, slamming my head, or stifling myself, and I would cry. I also sometimes hurt my pets (like soft punch them or slap them, not like make them bleed or smth)

Recently, it has gotten better, and I mostly just raise my voice when I get angry without using any physical acts. I will try to stop myself, breathe, and try to think if it is worth it to be angry with that specific person or issue, or is it worth damaging my health over something that eventually will just bring me misery and nothing more? I didn't go to any help and usually try to calm down all on my own; if you want, you can try it sometimes by yourself; try to breathe, calm down, and tell yourself that you will be okay.

It works for me and I hope it will work for you too, wish you the best 🥺
 
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Ryojix

Holy Order
Feb 26, 2023
30
Any type of violent act is not right, except when you defend yourself from violent acts; otherwise, even if you were in a purely verbal situation and you were in the right, it still didn't give you the right to be violent towards others. As a person who also suffered from anger issues, I can understand how it feels to not be able to control yourself when the emotions are high. Whenever I got angry, I mostly couldn't control my words, and because I was still aware of myself, I couldn't hurt others, so I started to hurt myself, like pulling my hair, slamming my head, or stifling myself, and I would cry. I also sometimes hurt my pets (like soft punch them or slap them, not like make them bleed or smth)

Recently, it has gotten better, and I mostly just raise my voice when I get angry without using any physical acts. I will try to stop myself, breathe, and try to think if it is worth it to be angry with that specific person or issue, or is it worth damaging my health over something that eventually will just bring me misery and nothing more? I didn't go to any help and usually try to calm down all on my own; if you want, you can try it sometimes by yourself; try to breathe, calm down, and tell yourself that you will be okay.

It works for me and I hope it will work for you too, wish you the best 🥺
It means a lot that you wish the best for me, and I hope it goes a long way.
 
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