Method Help me choose: SN or Night Night method?

[ShotgunShell]

Well, I'm finally getting to a point where I want a genuine plan for when I decide to get the hell out of here.

I'm stuck between using SN and the Night night method.

What do you guys recommend between the two? I'll be the first to admit it, I'm a pussy and still a little scared of death so I kind of want something that is peaceful and fast.
I'm drawn to the Night night method because from what I've heard, it only takes ~20 seconds for you to pass out and it's a pretty smooth ride from there.
I'm not as educated on SN, as I've only started looking into it, so I don't have enough information to even give a proper opinion on it.

What do you guys think?

 

[tothepoint]

I've messed around with trying to get night night to work using nylon ratchet straps and it is a pain in the ass. It's tough to press down on the blood vessels without also putting a ton of pressure on your windpipe in front. Maybe others have a better idea of how to do it but eventually I've concluded that partial or SN are a better bet for me than night night.

 

[ShotgunShell]

I've messed around with trying to get night night to work using nylon ratchet straps and it is a pain in the ass. It's tough to press down on the blood vessels without also putting a ton of pressure on your windpipe in front. Maybe others have a better idea of how to do it but eventually I've concluded that partial or SN are a better bet for me than night night.

Very good points, I didn't even think about that honestly. From the few (drawn) images I've seen of people showing you how to do it, it looked pretty easy but I can definitely see how lining it up and getting the right amount of pressure can be pretty difficult.

Will definitely be looking more into information regarding SN and reconsidering my Night night plan. Thank you!

 

[iamnotokaywiththis]

what are these two methods?? i'm new so don't understand these acronyms and stuff

 

[trist]

what are these two methods?? i'm new so don't understand these acronyms and stuff

you can find them, including other methods, in this thread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

 

[FuneralCry]

To me the Night Night method sounds risky and unreliable. I read about a failed attempt with it so I personally prefer the sound of SN if it's able to be accessed. SN is a reliable poison that many people have succeeded with, there is a reason as to why so many people wish to obtain it, but after all only you can decide what method you should choose, it has to be a personal decision.

 

[Volton]

I think Im one of the few people here that got NN to work to the point where i could ctb. It takes a lot of effort. SN is easier to set up and has a better reputation overall.

 

[freelifexit]

I kind of want something that is peaceful and fast.

Some SN cases are painful, some cases are discomforting, some cases are peaceful. Everybody reacts different.

Here you can find description of painful cases and here peaceful and discomforting cases and symptoms.

I'm drawn to the Night night method

Usually it's hard to succeed, but someone posted video of guy who succeeded on night night. But be careful, there is chance of blocking ratchet mechanism after tightening.
Here is such failed night night cases:
Thread 'I attempted suicide by ratchet strap (night night) and failed. Be warned.'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...strap-night-night-and-failed-be-warned.73271/

Post in thread 'Night night questions'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/night-night-questions.105617/post-1895563

 

[Kundalini Guy]

SN has higher fail rate because it takes over 10 minutes to black out, many who try to CTB with it call for an ambulance once their heart rate goes through the roof. Night Night method sounds more punishing if you fuck up but much "more rewarding" if you get it totally right because once you black out it is pretty much finished. Still the advice I would give to anyone on here is if you have even a glimpse of hope or will to live, just survive and try to recover. Only people whose lives are actual torture every day like schizophrenics or people who are homeless/rock bottom should consider suicide.

 

[ShotgunShell]

SN has higher fail rate because it takes over 10 minutes to black out, many who try to CTB with it call for an ambulance once their heart rate goes through the roof. Night Night method sounds more punishing if you fuck up but much "more rewarding" if you get it totally right because once you black out it is pretty much finished. Still the advice I would give to anyone on here is if you have even a glimpse of hope or will to live, just survive and try to recover. Only people whose lives are actual torture every day like schizophrenics or people who are homeless/rock bottom should consider suicide.

Appreciate it, but things won't get better for me. Nothing does.

I've given life chance after chance for 20+ years and I have no motivation to continue living for any reason. I'm an autistic freak who was destined to walk alone forever and I'm not giving whatever deity who put me here the satisfaction of getting to watch the freak show.

 

[Never Alive]

SN has higher fail rate because it takes over 10 minutes to black out, many who try to CTB with it call for an ambulance once their heart rate goes through the roof. Night Night method sounds more punishing if you fuck up but much "more rewarding" if you get it totally right because once you black out it is pretty much finished. Still the advice I would give to anyone on here is if you have even a glimpse of hope or will to live, just survive and try to recover. Only people whose lives are actual torture every day like schizophrenics or people who are homeless/rock bottom should consider suicide.

12min (or however long it is) is ok for me. With music lying down. Maybe I'm underestimating SI. But I still believe SN is ok for what it provides. Not the best, not the worst. Maybe I'm lucky and it'll be peaceful af. I've seen a lot of SN threads lately here but didnt follow to many. Looks like most if not all succeeded.

Appreciate it, but things won't get better for me. Nothing does.

I've given life chance after chance for 20+ years and I have no motivation to continue living for any reason. I'm an autistic freak who was destined to walk alone forever and I'm not giving whatever deity who put me here the satisfaction of getting to watch the freak show.

Same man. For me there's no hope. I thought long and enough. Each night every hour. Days turned into weeks then weeks into years and now its nearing half a decade of complete despair. Over 43000 hours. That's a lot. Well I will make sure that people will pay. Thats all. Like the french guy who got burned but made sure that the guys would get punished. The devil is kinda like the admin and Im sure atamniy and other shitters will get punished forever. Hell is forever, its a lot longer than billions of years. He can do whatever he wants and whenever he wants. Well. I gave too many chances. Its aight. I dont know when I will rest but I got my stuff for a while now. Maybe sooner or later. I have some people who I really like but no future anyway. So I can still stall out a bit.

 

[QiTianDaSheng]

Appreciate it, but things won't get better for me. Nothing does.

I've given life chance after chance for 20+ years and I have no motivation to continue living for any reason. I'm an autistic freak who was destined to walk alone forever and I'm not giving whatever deity who put me here the satisfaction of getting to watch the freak show.

Nicely put. About where I am too. We can be twinsies.

Tell me you're going to blast through your savings in Bangkok first ;)
This has been my 'plan Z' for nearly a decade, and I think I'm there now.

I also like the idea of NN. Suits a 1-star hotel somewhere, and reminds me of my judo days. Poisoning with SN sounds dodgy to me, too much chance to panic, but a good back up if I want to go down swinging somehow.

 

[TheSadStranger]

Well, I'm finally getting to a point where I want a genuine plan for when I decide to get the hell out of here.

I'm stuck between using SN and the Night night method.

What do you guys recommend between the two? I'll be the first to admit it, I'm a pussy and still a little scared of death so I kind of want something that is peaceful and fast.
I'm drawn to the Night night method because from what I've heard, it only takes ~20 seconds for you to pass out and it's a pretty smooth ride from there.
I'm not as educated on SN, as I've only started looking into it, so I don't have enough information to even give a proper opinion on it.

What do you guys think?

If you have come to a sound minded decision and that decision is to ctb I have a different suggestion. I suggest chloramine (ammonia+bleach). It is critical that you find a small enclosed space with little to no ventilation (like a closet). If you don't do it right you will end up with severe brain damage and maybe worse end up in a coma. If done right you should experience mild chest pains, dizziness, and fainting within the first 1-2 minutes of exposure. You will die within the next 10-30 minutes.

I would like to say I think ctb is an absolute last resort. However it doesn't matter what I think, it's your life and it's your decision. Just make sure it's a sound minded decision.

I hope only the best for you.
Please stay safe.

12min (or however long it is) is ok for me. With music lying down. Maybe I'm underestimating SI. But I still believe SN is ok for what it provides. Not the best, not the worst. Maybe I'm lucky and it'll be peaceful af. I've seen a lot of SN threads lately here but didnt follow to many. Looks like most if not all succeeded.

Same man. For me there's no hope. I thought long and enough. Each night every hour. Days turned into weeks then weeks into years and now its nearing half a decade of complete despair. Over 43000 hours. That's a lot. Well I will make sure that people will pay. Thats all. Like the french guy who got burned but made sure that the guys would get punished. The devil is kinda like the admin and Im sure atamniy and other shitters will get punished forever. Hell is forever, its a lot longer than billions of years. He can do whatever he wants and whenever he wants. Well. I gave too many chances. Its aight. I dont know when I will rest but I got my stuff for a while now. Maybe sooner or later. I have some people who I really like but no future anyway. So I can still stall out a bit.

Maybe it's just me but the idea of getting tortured by the devil by all eternity doesn't sound pleasant to me. Especially in comparison to heaven.

 

[Disaster]

SN has higher fail rate because it takes over 10 minutes to black out, many who try to CTB with it call for an ambulance once their heart rate goes through the roof. Night Night method sounds more punishing if you fuck up but much "more rewarding" if you get it totally right because once you black out it is pretty much finished. Still the advice I would give to anyone on here is if you have even a glimpse of hope or will to live, just survive and try to recover. Only people whose lives are actual torture every day like schizophrenics or people who are homeless/rock bottom should consider suicide.

Sounds as if you considered some peoples life's "worthless", or "worth less than others", which is a form of discrimination and fuels the "slippery slope argument" against assisted suicide and euthanasia, that if it was legal, it would be a means of getting rid of people who are expensive to keep alive and who don't contribute much financially even if the society tries to make them to be bound by wage slavery.
Let's put it clear: none of us signed up for the "subscription to being a sentient being" voluntarily, therefore we should be allowed to cancel the subscription as long as we understand such serious matters and decisions.
No one cares if you judge someone's life as worth living or not.

 

[Kundalini Guy]

Sounds as if you considered some peoples life's "worthless", or "worth less than others", which is a form of discrimination and fuels the "slippery slope argument" against assisted suicide and euthanasia, that if it was legal, it would be a means of getting rid of people who are expensive to keep alive and who don't contribute much financially even if the society tries to make them to be bound by wage slavery.
Let's put it clear: none of us signed up for the "subscription to being a sentient being" voluntarily, therefore we should be allowed to cancel the subscription as long as we understand such serious matters and decisions.
No one cares if you judge someone's life as worth living or not.

Am not considering anyones lives worthless, am just saying people who are truly truly suffering should have a release from life. Everyone else should try to give life a second shot as suicide is the heaviest and most impactful decision to make in life.

 

[Disaster]

Am not considering anyones lives worthless, am just saying people who are truly truly suffering should have a release from life. Everyone else should try to give life a second shot as suicide is the heaviest and most impactful decision to make in life.

You have no right to judge who is "really" suffering, and who is, dunno, making this up? Some people want to live despite of significant suffering, some other people don't want to live, and you'd judge reasons some of them have as minor or fake or whatever. But at the end of the day it's understanding the seriousness of tha and being able to make such decisions that matters. Not how some rando judges the reasons.

 

[Kundalini Guy]

You have no right to judge who is "really" suffering, and who is, dunno, making this up? Some people want to live despite of significant suffering, some other people don't want to live, and you'd judge reasons some of them have as minor or fake or whatever. But at the end of the day it's understanding the seriousness of tha and being able to make such decisions that matters. Not how some rando judges the reasons.

It is people like you who tell young 16 year olds can choose to end it just because they are going through the hormonal phase which every adult went through. Again, am trying to minimize and advocating for suicide to people who are in TRUE, PERMANENT, suffering. Not a young teen who can easily get out of their suffering and change their life for the better in the very near future.

 

[Disaster]

It is people like you who tell young 16 year olds can choose to end it just because they are going through the hormonal phase which every adult went through. Again, am trying to minimize and advocating for suicide to people who are in TRUE, PERMANENT, suffering. Not a young teen who can easily get out of their suffering and change their life for the better in the very near future.

I was pretty sure that I made it clear that I mean people who understand seriousness of the matters. That means: adults. But if you prefer to make up things you believe I said when I didn't, I can't help you of course. The issue with teens isn't that their suffering isn't "true", the issue is that they are incapable of understanding such serious decision.
If you enjoy telling some people that their suffering isn't "true", I think you're a complete jerk. And I'm as annoyed with all those "how to OD on vitamin C" and "can I ctb by holding my breath for a really long time", "which method will be best for me?" silly questions as the next person is, because a capable adult first does some research themselves. Still telling the "vitamin C kinds" that their suffering isn't "true" is the opposite of help, and by telling them that you'd be one more adult who has failed them.

 

[Undertow Mermaid]

I was pretty sure that I made it clear that I mean people who understand seriousness of the matters. That means: adults. But if you prefer to make up things you believe I said when I didn't, I can't help you of course. The issue with teens isn't that their suffering isn't "true", the issue is that they are incapable of understanding such serious decision.
If you enjoy telling some people that their suffering isn't "true", I think you're a complete jerk. And I'm as annoyed with all those "how to OD on vitamin C" and "can I ctb by holding my breath for a really long time", "which method will be best for me?" silly questions as the next person is, because a capable adult first does some research themselves. Still telling the "vitamin C kinds" that their suffering isn't "true" is the opposite of help, and by telling them that you'd be one more adult who has failed them.

Thank you for this. I'm in my 30s now but I've wanted to ctb since I was 9, no one gave a shit when my teenage self was flunking out of school and clearly struggling. And despite all the people saying it was because I was a teenager it would get better, it fuckin didn't.

 

[Disaster]

Thank you for this. I'm in my 30s now but I've wanted to ctb since I was 9, no one gave a shit when my teenage self was flunking out of school and clearly struggling. And despite all the people saying it was because I was a teenager it would get better, it fuckin didn't.

I'm sorry that you went through this :(
My earliest related memory is when I was about six or even younger, lying in bed playing with the threads in some old blanket, making large loops of those threads, and kinda loud thinking about strangling myself with that, because I was kinda curious what's on the "other side"? My grandma who heard that was absolutely mad and freaked out and I can't blame her Of course I didn't understand the seriousness of the matters, and of course at that moment thinking about it wasn't even caused by suffering, just being a kid who doesn't know better. The thing is we don't let kids make decisions like that because the don't understand the consequences, not because their suffering (if the suffering is the cause of considering terminating the life subscription) isn't "real", or is less "real" than the suffering of some patronizing boomer who feels very noble and superior and whatnot.

 

[QiTianDaSheng]

I suggest chloramine (ammonia+bleach).

Maybe it's just me but the idea of getting tortured by the devil by all eternity doesn't sound pleasant to me. Especially in comparison to heaven.

Suggests dangerous, untrustworthy and unpleasant ctb method, and then proceeds to threaten hell on those who ctb...

You need a hobby, bud.

Also, depending how I go, maybe I'll get into Valhalla. More chance of existing than a place made up by child molesters imo.

 

[TheSadStranger]

Suggests dangerous, untrustworthy and unpleasant ctb method, and then proceeds to threaten hell on those who ctb...

You need a hobby, bud.

Also, depending how I go, maybe I'll get into Valhalla. More chance of existing than a place made up by child molesters imo.

I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls. I suggested the chloramine method because of two reasons: it's ready availability and it's anesthetic nature. I never threatened hell on anyone. If you actually read what I was replying to you would see that. I was replying to what niebezahlt said: "Hell is forever, its a lot longer than billions of years. He can do whatever he wants and whenever he wants." Catholic, Jews and Christians are 3 different groups you know that right. You are thinking of the Catholic church who I am not the biggest fan of considering in the past they made you "pay to go to heaven".

As for your reply about getting a hobby. I find that to be a quite rude statement. I have many hobbies to try to entertain myself with, but nothing really does it for me anymore. That's a story for another day. You know me just about as much as I know you. I have only had good intentions and specifically warned the dangers of following the method I suggested. I don't see why you feel the need to go around skimming posts and then make rude comments.

 

[QiTianDaSheng]

[insert Boxxy trolling gif]

I actually thought you were trolling. Apologies if so.

Appreciated the disclaimer to it, but chlorine gassing yourself is meant to be unpleasant and it's hard to dose right. But it's accessible, even in a suicide proofed house. Fair point.

It's also one of the more insidious arguments against ctb. Instant pass to hell, no do-overs. Even for a devout atheist it's still not a nice thing to reminded of (Pascal's wager style) and that was what I jumped to.

Apologies, also twitchy myself.
+1 on lost hobbies.

 

[sickofeverything7]

there was someone on here a few weeks ago who had a nightmare story about the night night method and it terrified me personally too much to try, i'll try and find the thread