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The thing is I don't think he intended to kill himself, he just wanted to hurt others, it's just an unfortunate coincidence that he's on this forum

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The games he plays prove how aggressive his personality is
Nevermind then. He's a piece of shit edgelord who just happend to wander around on this forum. And he's so cowardly that he only went after old people who can't defend themselves. People like him who aren't even suicidal give this forum a bad look, I hope he was the only person on here who would ever do something as fucked up as this because it's otherwise concerning.
 
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It is all over the place as he is a Neo-Nazi and the arrest shows him wearing a Stahlhelm, Means steel helmet in English. He also wrote a manifesto. He is also wearing a bullet proof vest.

Poor lad has a lot of issues.

Walter
 
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His real name is Arda Kucukyetim, he published a manifesto and he is a Neo-Nazi this is definitely not related to this forum he is a psychopath
Well . . . Honest question what's the difference between Neo-Nazis and the incel/NEET.net crowd that frequent this place? Those cesspits are full of the same type of racism, directed at the same people + others. I guess my point is being in a hateful/racist group unfortunately doesn't automatically mean not related to this forum.
 
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EvisceratedJester

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Of course you didn't take the time to read his posts and discover the source of his suffering, what matters to you is to fill your ego and gather the opinions of others


He said : ''Other than that, since I don't wanna work in a job, I won't be able to move out from my parents so I'm FUCKING STUCK in this shitty loophole that I get anger attacks every day in this shitty apartment that I bang my head and cut myself over it.''

If you don't feel any empathy at his message, then may God help you.

This guy needed a treatment as being in the most dangerous and unpredictable personality-disorder category : Cluster B

Cluster B disorders involve unpredictable, dramatic, or intensely emotional responses to things. The four main cluster B disorders are:

  • ‌Antisocial
  • ‌Borderline
  • ‌Histrionic
  • ‌Narcissistic
Each of these disorders has a specific pattern of behavior. People with these disorders often feel like they need attention constantly. It's also common for them to occasionally show symptoms of at least one other personality disorder.

So you said "who is already well aware of the shit that some Muslims and brown people have been facing as of late"
imagine saying well aware to a person who has no awareness of what he is doing. imagine telling a crazy person to behave normally, imagine asking a quadriplegic to walk with both feet, I'm trying to put you in context since, you don't seem to measure things properly.

that's why I put myself in other people's shoes, those are the reasons
First off, none of this suggests that he suffers from delusions or paranoia (like you claimed in your other post). Secondly, that post isn't enough to suggest that he has a personality disorder. You also can't diagnose him with anything because you aren't a fucking psychiatrist and he isn't your patient. Thirdly, as I stated before, mental illness isn't a good predictor of violence and doesn't excuse his actions. Mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence, not the other way around.

He was a literal neo-nazi who specifically targeted a certain group of people. This isn't a case of someone who acted violently out of pure impulse. Evidence suggests that this was something he planned out.

He was completely aware of what he was doing. He literally wrote a manifesto and released it prior to the attack. You really love to suck of cocks of racist dumabsses while telling BIPOC to just suck it up whenever we talk about how racism impacts us, don't you?

Arda K. meticulously outlined his plan for the attack, which included taking a "cold shower" and donning "the best clothes" to avoid looking like a "beggar" while carrying out the killings. He intended to use a hatchet and a knife as his weapons, hoping to "cleanse the world of as many insects as possible."
The manifesto also revealed his extremist beliefs and identification with neo-Nazi ideology. "Politically, I could be described as a National Socialist, but in this Jew-controlled system and society, that doesn't seem possible," he stated.

His mental health is not an excuse for any of the shit he did. Plenty of people on here have much more severe mental health issues and have yet to do any of this shit. I am not going to extent my empathy to someone who did a horrible thing despite knowing better.
 
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Isn't this guy Turkish, just like his victims?
 
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"I guess I just wanted to kill the person I hate most -- myself, I just didn't have the courage." - Anthony Barbaro

I feel like this can describe most attackers.

There was a Monty Python sketch with Graham playing a sociologist or psych who said exactly this: "a homicide is merely an extroverted suicide"

And that stuck with me ever since.
 
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There was a Monty Python sketch with Graham playing a sociologist or psych who said exactly this: "a homicide is merely an extroverted suicide"

And that stuck with me ever since.
Wow, I like that quote a lot. It is strangely true in a lot of cases.
 
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There was a Monty Python sketch with Graham playing a sociologist or psych who said exactly this: "a homicide is merely an extroverted suicide"

And that stuck with me ever since.
I LOVE Monty Python!
 
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This will just give manipulative mass media companies more excuses to create slanderous articles about this forum.
 
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First off, none of this suggests that he suffers from delusions or paranoia (like you claimed in your other post). Secondly, that post isn't enough to suggest that he has a personality disorder. You also can't diagnose him with anything because you aren't a fucking psychiatrist and he isn't your patient. Thirdly, as I stated before, mental illness isn't a good predictor of violence and doesn't excuse his actions. Mentally ill people are more likely to be victims of violence, not the other way around.

He was a literal neo-nazi who specifically targeted a certain group of people. This isn't a case of someone who acted violently out of pure impulse. Evidence suggests that this was something he planned out.

He was completely aware of what he was doing. He literally wrote a manifesto and released it prior to the attack. You really love to suck of cocks of racist dumabsses while telling BIPOC to just suck it up whenever we talk about how racism impacts us, don't you?




His mental health is not an excuse for any of the shit he did. Plenty of people on here have much more severe mental health issues and have yet to do any of this shit. I am not going to extent my empathy to someone who did a horrible thing despite knowing better.

You seem to have some anger issues, as shown by the way you respond. I may have touched a sensitive point, and I apologize if you have suffered from racism. It's understandable that you might find it difficult to take the situation lightly, as it affects you deeply. However, constantly bringing up swastikas and racism might indicate that these issues weigh heavily on you. My own family is Muslim, and we are from Africa, but I don't take these things to heart as you do because I have found a small light in the hell you are experiencing—self-acceptance. It would be challenging for you to judge the situation objectively and fairly, given how this person's actions affect you.

If the swastika and racism were not involved, I doubt you would react the same way. One last piece of advice: try to extinguish the flame of hatred within you. You may not realize how much it is consuming you."

there is a difference between repairing and destroying, understanding and judging

 
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EvisceratedJester

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You seem to have some anger issues, as shown by the way you respond. I may have touched a sensitive point, and I apologize if you have suffered from racism. It's understandable that you might find it difficult to take the situation lightly, as it affects you deeply. However, constantly bringing up swastikas and racism might indicate that these issues weigh heavily on you. My own family is Muslim, and we are from Africa, but I don't take these things to heart as you do because I have found a small light in the hell you are experiencing—self-acceptance. It would be challenging for you to judge the situation objectively and fairly, given how this person's actions affect you.

If the swastika and racism were not involved, I doubt you would react the same way. One last piece of advice: try to extinguish the flame of hatred within you. You may not realize how much it is consuming you."

there is a difference between repairing and destroying, understanding and judging


I have anger issues because I don't like it when people try to defend and excuse the actions of a literal neo-nazi? Really?

I'm constantly bringing up the swastikas and racism because he was a literal neo-nazi who committed a hate crime. It's kind of a relevant thing to bring up when talking to someone who is trying to downplay the actions of someone who committed a premeditated violent crime, injuring several people and traumatizing them, presenting them as just being poor little clueless mentally ill man. You are going out of your way to defend and encourage others to sympathize with someone who doesn't deserve any sympathy after the shit he has done.

I'm taking this to heart because people were fucking harmed. I don't need to have experienced racism personally to care about how it impacts others. You seem to care more about trying to present yourself as this wise figure, spewing out empty platitudes and bullshit, rather then trying to understand why anyone would get upset over this.

Even if he wasn't racist I would still be pissed off. Do you think that he has an excuse to traumatize a bunch of people just because he was depressed? Again, this was a carefully planned out attack, not someone going into a violent episode where they had no control over themself. I will fucking judge others who go out of their way to harm others, especially when it's being done out of hatred for marginalized demographics. Just because you want to take some imaginary high road you made in your head in order to feed your massive ego doesn't mean I want to do that.

It's funny how you love to minimize the problems of others and be condescending to people who are rightfully upset about things while also defending the people who go out of their way to harm others. Maybe, rather than lecturing at me, someone you don't know shit about, how about you fucking rethink this position you are taking? Shit like this is why it takes forever for progress to be made.
 
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Well . . . Honest question what's the difference between Neo-Nazis and the incel/NEET.net crowd that frequent this place? Those cesspits are full of the same type of racism, directed at the same people + others. I guess my point is being in a hateful/racist group unfortunately doesn't automatically mean not related to this forum.
those groups all have different, let's say, core reasons/drivers behind them. The neo-nazi is well based on the thought of there is only one 'true race' and their short-comings are due to that perceived fact not being recognised/realised. The incel believes that they can't get affection because everyone is just a 'slut'. Neets I think are people who have faced experiences that made them give up on 'normal life'. Neets can become neo-nazis or incels if exposed to the wrong media (and echo chambers) for to long. However, for me, I sympathise with Neets the most as I rank myself as a Hikikomori (extreme of Neet) except I have a job. So I only go out to do my job. Otherwise I am only home (the pandemic lockdowns were perfect for me lol).
 
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those groups all have different, let's say, core reasons/drivers behind them. The neo-nazi is well based on the thought of there is only one 'true race' and their short-comings are due to that perceived fact not being recognised/realised. The incel believes that they can't get affection because everyone is just a 'slut'. Neets I think are people who have faced experiences that made them give up on 'normal life'. Neets can become neo-nazis or incels if exposed to the wrong media (and echo chambers) for to long. However, for me, I sympathise with Neets the most as I rank myself as a Hikikomori (extreme of Neet) except I have a job. So I only go out to do my job. Otherwise I am only home (the pandemic lockdowns were perfect for me lol).
Gotcha, and I understand. I have no problem with someone being a NEET, and in fact I'd say I get along at least as well with the average NEET as the average person out working, but it's those echo chambers you mention. I only know surface level from looking to see if a recent bad actor was one of them trolling on here, but looking at that neets.net there are several members who are regulars here who - on that forum - use every horrible slur in the book and casually throw out awful and offensive language calling for violence against women and certain races. They'll say it's a joke but if you told me it was a "Neo-Nazi" website I would believe you.
 
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Pls kp convrsatn civl

= pssble 2 hve sme pity fr hs strggles whle stll b-ing angry & showng jdgemnt & feelngs tht h/ ws a dmb-ass fr plannng & crrying out hs attck
 
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You seem to have some anger issues, as shown by the way you respond.
Girl was against nazism and mass-murder, something lots of people can see why, yet your only explanation are anger issues. Alright.

Constantly bringing up swastikas and racism might indicate that these issues weigh heavily on you.
Could just be that... she just has a minimum of decency... and simply opposes nazism and terrorism?

"Try to extinguish the flame of hatred within you. You may not realize how much it is consuming you."

there is a difference between repairing and destroying, understanding and judging
This pseudo-wisdom may look cool if you're in religious philosophy, but with all due respect, it just makes cringe or concern anyone who knows the seriousness of the situation. It's just propaganda with no real use, other than kinda justifying and being thrown against victims of hate crimes.


I have anger issues because I don't like it when people try to defend and excuse the actions of a literal neo-nazi? Really?
I'm deeply sorry you had to deal with this. Curious how the most vocal ones when it comes to extremist pacifism and forgiveness have no problem covertly insulting whoever disagrees with them.
 
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Girl was against nazism and mass-murder, something lots of people can see why, yet your only explanation are anger issues. Alright.


Could just be that... she just has a minimum of decency... and simply opposes nazism and terrorism?


This pseudo-wisdom may look cool if you're in religious philosophy, but with all due respect, it just makes cringe or concern anyone who knows the seriousness of the situation. It's just propaganda with no real use, other than kinda justifying and being thrown against victims of hate crimes.



I'm deeply sorry you had to deal with this. Curious how the most vocal ones when it comes to extremist pacifism and forgiveness have no problem covertly insulting whoever disagrees with them.

Excuse me if my words hurted you or hurted EvisceratedJester; that was never my intention, I have no specific religion; my religion is simply love and empathy. I am spiritual and believe that we are all one in the name of humanity.

Girl was against nazism and mass-murder, something lots of people can see why, yet your only explanation are anger issues. Alright.

We are in a forum where everyone is sensitive to criticism.

I pointed out his behavior because it could offend someone who is unstable if a discussion goes off the rails like that. Personally, I don't mind; his reality does not represent mine. However, for others, it could push them further toward self-hatred and suicide.

spewing out empty platitudes and bullshit
some imaginary high road you made in your head in order to feed your massive ego
You really love to suck of cocks of racist dumabsses


This pseudo-wisdom may look cool if you're in religious philosophy, but with all due respect, it just makes cringe or concern anyone who knows the seriousness of the situation. It's just propaganda with no real use, other than kinda justifying and being thrown against victims of hate crimes.

I use analogies because I love philosophy, not to make myself look cool and special and also to bring people closer to the way I see things,
I have more empathy for the victims than the person who committed this act, that doesn't stop me from having a little bit of empathy for the person who committed this act, all the people on this forum are victims of judgment and simply hope to be understood, if he was understood by those around him there would be no swatiska or any of that, we exploited his moments of weakness to direct him towards evil, it was an inexperienced person for me who was influenced.

I'm deeply sorry you had to deal with this. Curious how the most vocal ones when it comes to extremist pacifism and forgiveness have no problem covertly insulting whoever disagrees with them.
ultimately I respect your opinion and I don't force you to change it, I just invite you to see another side of MY reality if you don't like it then don't waste time with me and consider me a crazy person who only spits nonsense.

Peace :)
 
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Excuse me if my words hurted you or hurted EvisceratedJester; that was never my intention, I have no specific religion; my religion is simply love and empathy. I am spiritual and believe that we are all one in the name of humanity.



We are in a forum where everyone is sensitive to criticism.

I pointed out his behavior because it could offend someone who is unstable if a discussion goes off the rails like that. Personally, I don't mind; his reality does not represent mine. However, for others, it could push them further toward self-hatred and suicide.









I use analogies because I love philosophy, not to make myself look cool and special and also to bring people closer to the way I see things,
I have more empathy for the victims than the person who committed this act, that doesn't stop me from having a little bit of empathy for the person who committed this act, all the people on this forum are victims of judgment and simply hope to be understood, if he was understood by those around him there would be no swatiska or any of that, we exploited his moments of weakness to direct him towards evil, it was an inexperienced person for me who was influenced.


ultimately I respect your opinion and I don't force you to change it, I just invite you to see another side of MY reality if you don't like it then don't waste time with me and consider me a crazy person who only spits nonsense.

Peace :)
First off, I'm a she. Secondly, what criticism? You claimed that I had anger issues just because I was rightfully getting pissed off at you trying to defend and downplay the actions of someone who singlehandedly injured 5 people. Most people aren't going to be empathetic to someone who does something like that. You kept on bringing up mental illness, even after I pointed out that mental illness is a poor predictor of violence and his attack was premeditated. That's not even getting into the fact that the whole "violent attacker = mentally ill" thing is well-known for being ableist and is a pretty weird argument to run to on a forum where a most of the users are mentally ill.

You aren't providing any actual critiques. As @Downdraft has pointed out, all you are doing is is spreading a bunch of pseudo-wisdom bs in order to feed into your superiority complex. You use empathy as an excuse to downplay the people's horrible actions while also offering little empathy to others who actually need it (as shown by your horrible takes on that thread discussing racism). You treat your pacificist attitude as a sign of enlightenment even though shit like that has never gotten us anywhere before.

Plenty of people go through their entire life feeling misunderstood and never do any of the shit that he has done. For somebody who claims to have empathy for the victims, you do a real poor job showing it.
 
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First off, I'm a she. Secondly, what criticism? You claimed that I had anger issues just because I was rightfully getting pissed off at you trying to defend and downplay the actions of someone who singlehandedly injured 5 people. Most people aren't going to be empathetic to someone who does something like that. You kept on bringing up mental illness, even after I pointed out that mental illness is a poor predictor of violence and his attack was premeditated. That's not even getting into the fact that the whole "violent attacker = mentally ill" thing is well-known for being ableist and is a pretty weird argument to run to on a forum where a most of the users are mentally ill.

You aren't providing any actual critiques. As @Downdraft has pointed out, all you are doing is is spreading a bunch of pseudo-wisdom bs in order to feed into your superiority complex. You use empathy as an excuse to downplay the people's horrible actions while also offering little empathy to others who actually need it (as shown by your horrible takes on that thread discussing racism). You treat your pacificist attitude as a sign of enlightenment even though shit like that has never gotten us anywhere before.

Plenty of people go through their entire life feeling misunderstood and never do any of the shit that he has done. For somebody who claims to have empathy for the victims, you do a real poor job showing it.
I am sorry if I hurt you my sister, I am a person of color too, I understand your suffering, I did not want to demean you, we are human unfortunately our ego can take part in things without wanting to, as long as we are human we are not perfect and that is because we are unfortunately the slave of our emotions and of this duality which governs us all, I try to be empathic with everyone but I am far from being, since I haven't experienced what you experienced, so as long as I, I am not one with the person and their preconceived ideas and conclusions of life.

Your way of expressing yourself is remarkable like most of the people here, and I understand your ideas and your ideology, I respect your point of view, and I have no desire to change it since change comes from our own desire to change


Also I'm debating, I'm not defending, I emphasizes a peaceful, open-minded approach to conversation, grounded in mutual respect, I want to remind you, we're not in a battlefield and we're not politicians, we're just lost souls here in search of ''meaning of life'', i am a explorer like you in this planet willing to discover and learn more and more from my mistakes and my preconceptions of life.

I didn't come to justify myself but to show some love.
 
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Thankfully it didn't have a very bad influence on the forum.
 
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Woah what happened here lol a lot of smelly bickering amongst strangers how do these people sleep at night fighting the good fight 24/7

If you people had the power you'd gun me down like

goodfellas GIF
 
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Woah what happened here lol a lot of smelly bickering amongst strangers how do these people sleep at night fighting the good fight 24/7
average friday afternoon on sasu, nonetheless this thread was interesting to read
 
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Very late, but disgusting, awful, saddening. I hope the victims are able to recover and justice is served. I have little sympathy for neo-nazis and any race superiority groups.

It's maddening how far-right groups infiltrate young people's spaces (gaming, anime, cartoons, comics), isolate and take advantage of vulnerable members.

But at the same time, I can't bring myself to have a lot of empathy or pity for the guys that have fallen into this pipeline, because this is the exactly the result you get. We've seen it countless of times. They're not unwilling participants.

I hope more people stop underestimating the influence of these groups (not SaSu) and start taking action. So many marginalized communities around the globe are at constant life-threatening risk because of people like him. Fuck 'em.​
 
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agony1996

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Right that's why it doesn't make sense that you'd seek revenge on random strangers vs those who actually wronged you.

I've noticed with people, their own family can treat them like dog shit and they'll take it out on random strangers. That's fuckin stupid. Most people are too cowardly to confront their real abusers yet don't mind going crazy on someone they just met.

I was in a DV relationship when I was younger. The man was abused by his mother as a child. He hit me? But not his mommy who actually abused him? Why? Because that's how people are.
That's really messed up, you don't take your anger and frustrations on total strangers
Very late, but disgusting, awful, saddening. I hope the victims are able to recover and justice is served. I have little sympathy for neo-nazis and any race superiority groups.

It's maddening how far-right groups infiltrate young people's spaces (gaming, anime, cartoons, comics), isolate and take advantage of vulnerable members.

But at the same time, I can't bring myself to have a lot of empathy or pity for the guys that have fallen into this pipeline, because this is the exactly the result you get. We've seen it countless of times. They're not unwilling participants.

I hope more people stop underestimating the influence of these groups (not SaSu) and start taking action. So many marginalized communities around the globe are at constant life-threatening risk because of people like him. Fuck 'em.​
Well said, those people infuriate me.
 
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But at the same time, I can't bring myself to have a lot of empathy or pity for the guys that have fallen into this pipeline, because this is the exactly the result you get. We've seen it countless of times. They're not unwilling participants.​
You're describing cornered animals
And what happens when you corner an animal
 
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Now, who is the one playing psychiatrist?
Do you even know what armchair psychology even is? Pointing out the fact that there are people on here who have more severe mental health issues than that dude yet have not gone out of their way to attempt to target and attack a specific group of people isn't "playing psychiatrist".
 
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