Discussion Forum member attempted a mass stabbing

[itsactuallyover127]

so fucked up. i hope he gets life in prison and can't kill himself so he doesn't get off easy.
these people are sick and reading his manifesto is even more fucked up.
even if i want to kill myself and even if i am full of delusions and mental illness, i think about ways to do it so i wouldn't subject people to traumatic scenes meanwhile this piece of shit goes around trying to kill others and doesn't even hurt himself with a single scratch
he wasn't actually suicidal or in pain, he's a racist maniac criminal who should've killed himself if he really was that suicidal

 

[cali22♡]

i go MIA off this site for a bit and come back to this. LMFAO

This is the best "welcome gift" xD

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

On r/masskillers
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Yes on the last/bottom reddit post shown in the screenshots OP put in the first post of this thread

 

[opheliaoveragain]

this is going to bring the media and multiple governments down on us, if the media can take this and run with it.

all just because of, a racist want to be murderer, who made 13 posts here.

No one died, as said above. Some have looked it up and it's not hitting MSM the way you'd think. At least so far.

 

[Davey36000]

Why are you people so judgy, as if you are better than him or something.

This should be one of the very few last places on earth (maybe barring some monasteries, I heard some Buddhist monks can be really kind) to judge someone like that guy, specially considering some people here also shared that they think alike.

No, obviously I'm not saying it was right what happened, but it could have been easily you it me, if all stars aligned for something similar to happen, it's not the first and certainly not the last case like that.

Personally it's just sad for the guy, specially considering nobody got hurt.

But considering nobody takes stuff like mental illness/ suffering seriously, this will continue to happen.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Why are you people so judgy, as if you are better than him or something.

This should be one of the very few last places on earth (maybe barring some monasteries, I heard some Buddhist monks can be really kind) to judge someone like that guy, specially considering some people here also shared that they think alike.

No, obviously I'm not saying it was right what happened, but it could have been easily you it me, if all stars aligned for something similar to happen, it's not the first and certainly not the last case like that.

Personally it's just sad for the guy, specially considering nobody got hurt.

But considering nobody takes stuff like mental illness/ suffering seriously, this will continue to happen.

Dude, he was a racist motherfucker who tried to kill people. Of course we are going to be judgy!

News sites claimed he wore a "black sun," a Nazi symbol made up of several swastikas, on his chest.

Turkey arrests teenager for stabbing attack at mosque

Eighteen-year-old injured at least five people at random, reportedly under the influence of a video game.

www.google.ca

I don't feel sorry for him at all. It's one thing to be mentally ill, it's another thing to be hateful violent bigot.

 

[Nobody Special]

Dude, he was a racist motherfucker who tried to kill people. Of course we are going to be judgy!

Turkey arrests teenager for stabbing attack at mosque

Eighteen-year-old injured at least five people at random, reportedly under the influence of a video game.

www.google.ca

I don't feel sorry for him at all. It's one thing to be mentally ill, it's another thing to be hateful violent bigot.

It appears the youth was an avid enjoyer of mass attacks. He was wearing a t-shirt with the words "Humanity is overrated" inscribed on it. Pekka Eric Auvinen (Perpetuator of the Jokela High School shooting) infamously wore this shirt.

 

[samsara_96]

I was surprised (for what these analyses are worth with a free account) when, just out of curiosity, last week I analyzed the data traffic/visits of sasu via Similarweb, and Turkey was (in the month of June) the third country in the world for geographical origin after the US and Canada. I don't know if this means something or is just a statistical fluctuation...

Your guess would be as good as mine. Crime statistics in Turkey are often suppressed and according to them there is no meaningful change in suicide rates. However, considering the economic deterioration, increasing inequalities, and the negative attitude of the media, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's actually been going up.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

It appears the youth was an avid enjoyer of mass attacks. He was wearing a t-shirt with the words "Humanity is overrated" inscribed on it. Pekka Eric Auvinen (Perpetuator of the Jokela High School shooting) infamously wore this shirt.

Okay, and so?

 

[Nobody Special]

Okay, and so?

My apologies. I was just adding more information there. I didn't really need to tag you, lol. Sorry.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

My apologies. I was just adding more information there. I didn't really need to tag you, lol. Sorry.

Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you trying to get at.

 

[Beyond_Repair]

Right that's why it doesn't make sense that you'd seek revenge on random strangers vs those who actually wronged you.

I've noticed with people, their own family can treat them like dog shit and they'll take it out on random strangers. That's fuckin stupid. Most people are too cowardly to confront their real abusers yet don't mind going crazy on someone they just met.

I was in a DV relationship when I was younger. The man was abused by his mother as a child. He hit me? But not his mommy who actually abused him? Why? Because that's how people are.

This is a really good point. A lot of people have abusive upbringings but because of the way we are wired still won't blame our parents, and take it out on others instead

What's sick is that these parents usually intuitively know the power they have over their kids, and use it to their advantage. They can do whatever they want without any consequence

 

[Whale_bones]

Why are you people so judgy, as if you are better than him or something.

No, obviously I'm not saying it was right what happened, but it could have been easily you it me, if all stars aligned for something similar to happen, it's not the first and certainly not the last case like that.

Do you respond the same way to other similarly violent crimes though? Home invasions and robberies that are violent against a random, innocent person, is your take "that could have easily been you or me" doing that?

Or do mass attacks get some weird exception. Because it seems like people have no problem stating it's wrong when the violence is one-on-one, but when it's called a mass attack, it goes into some strange, less-valid category for some people.

If I'm judgy for stating that a racist attack is completely against my values and 100% wrong, then call me Judgy Mcjudgerson.

Personally it's just sad for the guy, specially considering nobody got hurt.

Totally innocent people who were just going about their day were attacked to the point of needing hospitalization, and multiple are in serious condition. "Nobody got hurt" is a wild take.

 

[kincr]

His real name is Arda Kucukyetim, he published a manifesto and he is a Neo-Nazi this is definitely not related to this forum he is a psychopath

 

[avalonisburning]

Why are you people so judgy, as if you are better than him or something.

Even at my lowest and most vulnerable points, I have never, ever, found kinship among nazis. Unless this was a freak example of aggressive, early-onset schizophrenia/dementia/alzheimers, mental illness can only excuse so much, and it doesn't turn you into a violent racist. He would have been this way with or without whatever was going on in his head at the moment he was trying to stab people. Those beliefs and values were already there.

 

[genoke]

I would never even use a firearm in an apt or hotel room I didn't own, because it's messy, much less hurt someone else. I've googled "what is the most polite way to commit suicide" a hundred times. This person was extremely homicidal and has nothing to do with the people on this site.

 

[HowToCTB]

govt offered euthanasia saves lives

I think that in order to get what people want, sometimes those people have to make it look like they will be a danger to society if governments don't approve a certain thing.

Imagine if every suicidal person in the world did the same thing as the turk.

What would happen?
It might be dumb to think of, but I guess that people would start thinking "Just let them die!" of us (suicidal people), instead of saying bullshit like "Noo! Don't do that! There are solutions for anything!".

Yeah, go to hell.
Most of the problems come from society itself, including governments. What kind of solution can you find on your own to these?

How can you induce governments to even evaluate your willing, if you're just the 0.01% of the population. By begging them? Good luck with that! Next step, psychiatric ward of some hospital.

On the other side, people who cause some actual trouble... Can move something. Maybe...

PS: Not encouraging anyone to follow his actions. Just analyzing and saying what I think would happen.

 

[Anonperson1]

What a dumb cunt. You wanna top yourself? Ok, your choice! But going stabby mcstabface on innocent people...no. just no.

 

[franzkafka]

I'm not really informed on this, but wasn't another mass stabbing attack in UK last week or anytime this month?
Like at first when reading here I thought it's about that guy from UK.

I'm pretty taken aback by the fact ca I don't remember hearing pretty much about mass stabbing attacks and now there are 2 that happened really close to each other

I'm sad for the victims, I understood nobody died, but I hope for fully recover.

 

[Jeav]

Yeah, this wasn't some "oh no! Poor mentally ill man does something while not sound of mind" situation. He specifically went out of his way to target muslims. He is an Islamophobic and racist bigot who went out of his way to hurt people.

5 injured in stabbing at mosque in Turkey

www.voanews.com

Let's stop using mental illness as a way to excuse the unforgivable crimes of others. He was an adult and he went out of his way to harm a specific group of people.

Certain psychiatric conditions do increase a person's risk of committing a crime. Research suggests that patients with mental illness may be more prone to violence if they do not receive adequate treatment, are actively experiencing delusions, or have long-standing paranoia

People with mental illness are not judged in the same way as others in court because their mental condition can affect their ability to understand their actions and the consequences.

you have to put yourself in the place of other people instead of condemning just because it affects you personally that he wears a swatiska, most here are there because we judged them wrongly and they were made to believe that they are good for nothing and miserable beings, , if he grew up in a healthy environment there would be none of this

It's like a parent who scolds their child for a bad grade but doesn't make the effort to understand the reasons behind it.

Your reasoning is simple; you only see one side of the coin and aren't curious enough to look at the other side. To be curious, you need a minimum of empathy—not to justify, but to understand. So don't distort my perspective in the name of justice.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Certain psychiatric conditions do increase a person's risk of committing a crime. Research suggests that patients with mental illness may be more prone to violence if they do not receive adequate treatment, are actively experiencing delusions, or have long-standing paranoia

People with mental illness are not judged in the same way as others in court because their mental condition can affect their ability to understand their actions and the consequences.

you have to put yourself in the place of other people instead of condemning just because it affects you personally that he wears a swatiska, most here are there because we judged them wrongly and they were made to believe that they are good for nothing and miserable beings, , if he grew up in a healthy environment there would be none of this

It's like a parent who scolds their child for a bad grade but doesn't make the effort to understand the reasons behind it.

Your reasoning is simple; you only see one side of the coin and aren't curious enough to look at the other side. To be curious, you need a minimum of empathy—not to justify, but to understand. So don't distort my perspective in the name of justice.

Actually, mentall illness isn't in of itself a good predictor of violence. For example, 78 percent of mass shooters aren't mentally ill. Things like sex, age, and alcohol are all better predictors of violent behaviour in comparison to mental illness. People who are mentally ill are actually the ones who are more at risk of being victims of violent crimes, not the other way around.

The man you are defending is a neo-nazi who specifically targeted a mosque. He even posted a racist manifesto prior to the attack. There is no evidence to indicate that he suffers from issues like paranoia or delusions and it is highly unlikely given that, again, mental illness isn't a good predictor of violence.

I am not going to put myself in the shoes of literally neo-nazi who went of his way to commit a hate crime. Especially as someone who is already well aware of the shit that some Muslims and brown people have been facing as of late. Should I go ahead and sympathize with the people who, a girl I was walking to bus stop with told me, would verbally harrass her for wearing a hijab? The people who made this child fear that one day they would gain the confidence to physically attack her? I feel like you don't seem to understand or have much sympathy for the people whose life's are put at risk due to racist fuckers like Arda K. Several people are in the hospital because of him.

He is 18-years-old. He is not a fucking child and he should know better. Fuck off.

 

[Jeav]

Actually, mentall illness isn't in of itself a good predictor of violence. For example, 78 percent of mass shooters aren't mentally ill. Things like sex, age, and alcohol are all better predictors of violent behaviour in comparison to mental illness. People who are mentally ill are actually the ones who are more at risk of being victims of violent crimes, not the other way around.

The man you are defending is a neo-nazi who specifically targeted a mosque. He even posted a racist manifesto prior to the attack. There is no evidence to indicate that he suffers from issues like paranoia or delusions and it is highly unlikely given that, again, mental illness isn't a good predictor of violence.

I am not going to put myself in the shoes of literally neo-nazi who went of his way to commit a hate crime. Especially as someone who is already well aware of the shit that some Muslims and brown people have been facing as of late. Should I go ahead and sympathize with the people who, a girl I was walking to bus stop with told me, would verbally harrass her for wearing a hijab? The people who made this child fear that one day they would gain the confidence to physically attack her? I feel like you don't seem to understand or have much sympathy for the people whose life's are put at risk due to racist fuckers like Arda K. Several people are in the hospital because of him.

He is 18-years-old. He is not a fucking child and he should know better. Fuck off.

Of course you didn't take the time to read his posts and discover the source of his suffering, what matters to you is to fill your ego and gather the opinions of others

Seeking for a solution.

Hi, it's me once again. My situation has come more of a stalemate as now. I've gone to places to jump from, but even climbing the stairs and taking a glimpse to the ground gives me such a fear. While my parents still force me to go to an university (a small note that I've been 18 three and a...

sanctioned-suicide.net

He said : ''Other than that, since I don't wanna work in a job, I won't be able to move out from my parents so I'm FUCKING STUCK in this shitty loophole that I get anger attacks every day in this shitty apartment that I bang my head and cut myself over it.''

If you don't feel any empathy at his message, then may God help you.

This guy needed a treatment as being in the most dangerous and unpredictable personality-disorder category : Cluster B

Cluster B disorders involve unpredictable, dramatic, or intensely emotional responses to things. The four main cluster B disorders are:

• ‌Antisocial
• ‌Borderline
• ‌Histrionic
• ‌Narcissistic

Each of these disorders has a specific pattern of behavior. People with these disorders often feel like they need attention constantly. It's also common for them to occasionally show symptoms of at least one other personality disorder.

So you said "who is already well aware of the shit that some Muslims and brown people have been facing as of late"
imagine saying well aware to a person who has no awareness of what he is doing. imagine telling a crazy person to behave normally, imagine asking a quadriplegic to walk with both feet, I'm trying to put you in context since, you don't seem to measure things properly.

that's why I put myself in other people's shoes, those are the reasons

 

[Beyond_Repair]

This morning I saw this case reported in American news. The report ended with - "the assailant is believed to be influenced by a video game."

This is something that is so dumb and just shows how little people actually understand mental illness and just psychology in general.

I believe people seek out media, video games, movies, books, etc that reflect their own mindset, not the other way around. Like I actively seek out depressing and bleak video games and novels, but that's because it reflects how I actually feel, and doesn't put thoughts into my head that weren't already there

The playing violent video games is a symptom, not a cause

 

[voc_89]

COME ON! Urgh. I am suicidal. Been that way since 2004. And will continue to be that way till i get the sweet relief of death. HOWEVER, while i will never push anyone to do anything, I ALWAYS SAY do not involve normies. Omg. This is going to turn out so well. Hopefully the media doesnt find out who we really are as this would only get so much worse. I love this site. I am not on it everyday. But at times where I am at my lowest. When I am cutting myself. Hurting myself. Self-medicating, etc. Thinking that all is lost. To just say fk it all. This site helps me in a strange way to feel a bit grounded and delay. Its an inevitable mind u. I am 1, totally bad day, from calling it quits. But till then I am here due to this site.

 

[heavyeyes]

Fucking monster. Should've just killed himself instead of taking innocent people with him. May he suffer greatly for the rest of his miserable life

 

[voc_89]

This is something that is so dumb and just shows how little people actually understand mental illness and just psychology in general.

I believe people seek out media, video games, movies, books, etc that reflect their own mindset, not the other way around. Like I actively seek out depressing and bleak video games and novels, but that's because it reflects how I actually feel, and doesn't put thoughts into my head that weren't already there

The playing violent video games is a symptom, not a cause

They don't understand/accept so they grasp at straws. Lol. I am someone in my country where, when it comes to lets say topical stuff, has been quoted (that is my work) several times in the media. Was also invited about 7 years ago to do an interview about lets say young adults to look out for. LMAO! But they don't know deep down I am long gone......

p.s. whether u believe me or not its up to u. I am being honest though.... Sorry if i am crude. Today was a really... really rough one for me.

 

[MaidenException]

Will govts drone strike SaSu users? Euthanasia more cost effective.

Well you see, in America

bodily autonomy: bad
getting killed by cops or the fed: good

/S

 

[hibikikyuxx]

Another reason why Euthanasia should be legalized. All of this could have been prevented if this sick fuck had a painless option to end his own life.

 

[kincr]

Another reason why Euthanasia should be legalized. All of this could have been prevented if this sick fuck had a painless option to end his own life.

The thing is I don't think he intended to kill himself, he just wanted to hurt others, it's just an unfortunate coincidence that he's on this forum



The games he plays prove how aggressive his personality is

 

[Sarco]

he didn't have enough vril