Discussion Forum member attempted a mass stabbing

[CatLvr]

When you can't find the courage to ctb without help, suicide by cop. Problem is cops don't always oblige you.

 

[tunnelV]

I don't think most of these attackers truly feel they are special. We as humans are naturally violent and will seek revenge at times.

Right that's why it doesn't make sense that you'd seek revenge on random strangers vs those who actually wronged you.

I've noticed with people, their own family can treat them like dog shit and they'll take it out on random strangers. That's fuckin stupid. Most people are too cowardly to confront their real abusers yet don't mind going crazy on someone they just met.

I was in a DV relationship when I was younger. The man was abused by his mother as a child. He hit me? But not his mommy who actually abused him? Why? Because that's how people are.

 

[Nobody Special]

I can't describe why.. but these comments that go like

"Oh, I'm suicidal and I would never hurt anyone"

Always make me cringe for some reason.

 

[Chili]

I can't describe why.. but these comments that go like

"Oh, I'm suicidal and I would never hurt anyone"

Always make me cringe for some reason.

Am I gonna see you on the news next lmfao?.

 

[CatLvr]

I can't describe why.. but these comments that go like

"Oh, I'm suicidal and I would never hurt anyone"

Always make me cringe for some reason.

Yeah, that "and I would never" is a red flag to me also. I would never have even thought to add a qualifier like that.

 

[escape_from_hell]

Will govts drone strike SaSu users? Euthanasia more cost effective.

 

[Nobody Special]

Yeah, that "and I would never" is a red flag to me also. I would never have even thought to add a qualifier like that.

It just seems like they are seeking validation. Like, the rest of the world still sees you as a insane. Saying you don't want to hurt others won't make them think "He is so sweet, he isn't like the other suicidal people"

 

[willitpass]

I hope all of the victims are okay. It makes me so sick for someone to take their suicidality as an excuse to hurt others. Absolutely despicable behavior.

 

[Nobody Special]

Am I gonna see you on the news next lmfao?.

No, hahaha.
This entire forum might be on the news when they want to use as a scapegoat.

 

[cowboypants]

Because sometimes the misery(suicidal thoughts) are related to people. I don't know his views or thoughts or if he was an incel, I don't know what was happening in his home. Seems like a popular incel activity. I wish mass killings weren't so popular now. I think it's dumb to go after random strangers. I'm just not surprised, most of them seem like young people who spend a lot of time online. Although I recently saw a story of a man who lost his job running people over and stabbing others. I honestly don't understand that type of reaction from job loss. Some people are cowardly and have this thought of self loathing "if I can't have a good life nobody should". I also have suspected many people here have different types of personality disorders including me. I imagine narcissism and depression are a toxic combination. Those types of people think they're special and are mad that nobody can see how special they are. They aren't special and its just delusional but it's all in their minds. In the USA this is now common unfortunately. Everyone growing up with social media thinks they're special and no wonder mass shootings are popular here. If I was rich I'd get a farm house in rural Japan. I'd move out of this weird place where every average moron thinks they're God's. Since the usa is so popular people overseas are influenced by actions here. So now they're having mass stabbings and even mass arrows. Instead of guns..

When I was like around 8 I had a lot of bad things happened like continuously I got so frustrated with life. Like I'm getting humiliated in school and at home almost everyday. I felt I didn't have rhe support at home. Along this time I had an urge that grew of hurting myself and others. i was holding in for a while then i burst.

Like nothing mattered anymore in my life and i wanted to die. And i did act on it hopefully nothing bad happened but I still regret those times. It could have been avoidable with proper parenting and a good nurturing society.

While we can't stop all of these incidents most of them can be I think.

 

[tunnelV]

When I was like around 8 I had a lot of bad things happened like continuously I got so frustrated with life. Like I'm getting humiliated in school and at home almost everyday. I felt I didn't have rhe support at home. Along this time I had an urge that grew of hurting myself and others. i was holding in for a while then i burst.

Like nothing mattered anymore in my life and i wanted to die. And i did act on it hopefully nothing bad happened but I still regret those times. It could have been avoidable with proper parenting and a good nurturing society.

While we can't stop all of these incidents most of them can be I think.

It seems like the FBI can only stop the ones who promote what they're planning to do online, someone reports them. Otherwise I think it's impossible to stop someone who doesn't write it, type it out or tell someone. Like if someone just kept it to themselves. Even ones who plan it and get arrested are charged lightly. Laws are made in a way that the crime has to already have happened. That's why the police do nothing when a woman has a stalker and is being followed and threatened. They only do something after the stalker murders them.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Yeah, no. If you want to die, that's fine. There is no fucking reason to kill others that are living happy, decent lives. Screams like you were just too weak to CTB yourself. It's your body, your choice not their body, your choice.

Did they kill other people? I'm sorry I can't read I have severe brain damage. Read aloud isn't translating this. Did they actually kill other people or just hurt them? There's a lot of people on this forum that need help. Maybe if this person would have had a peaceful exit they wouldn't have done something like this? Extreme suffering causes extreme suffering. People need a way out.

 

[astr4]

disappointing.

 

[CTB Dream]

Because sometimes the misery(suicidal thoughts) are related to people. I don't know his views or thoughts or if he was an incel, I don't know what was happening in his home. Seems like a popular incel activity. I wish mass killings weren't so popular now. I think it's dumb to go after random strangers. I'm just not surprised, most of them seem like young people who spend a lot of time online. Although I recently saw a story of a man who lost his job running people over and stabbing others. I honestly don't understand that type of reaction from job loss. Some people are cowardly and have this thought of self loathing "if I can't have a good life nobody should". I also have suspected many people here have different types of personality disorders including me. I imagine narcissism and depression are a toxic combination. Those types of people think they're special and are mad that nobody can see how special they are. They aren't special and its just delusional but it's all in their minds. In the USA this is now common unfortunately. Everyone growing up with social media thinks they're special and no wonder mass shootings are popular here. If I was rich I'd get a farm house in rural Japan. I'd move out of this weird place where every average moron thinks they're God's. Since the usa is so popular people overseas are influenced by actions here. So now they're having mass stabbings and even mass arrows. Instead of guns.

When I was like around 8 I had a lot of bad things happened like continuously I got so frustrated with life. Like I'm getting humiliated in school and at home almost everyday. I felt I didn't have rhe support at home. Along this time I had an urge that grew of hurting myself and others. i was holding in for a while then i burst.

Like nothing mattered anymore in my life and i wanted to die. And i did act on it hopefully nothing bad happened but I still regret those times. It could have been avoidable with proper parenting and a good nurturing society.

While we can't stop all of these incidents most of them can be I think.

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[_AllCatsAreGrey_]

Did they kill other people? I'm sorry I can't read I have severe brain damage. Read aloud isn't translating this. Did they actually kill other people or just hurt them? There's a lot of people on this forum that need help. Maybe if this person would have had a peaceful exit they wouldn't have done something like this? Extreme suffering causes extreme suffering. People need a way out.

As I understand no one was killed.

 

[cali22♡]

Please dear SaSu team make sure that our place does not get more attention

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

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I agree. the way life is, makes these things happen, suffering with no way out. someone said they didn't kill anyone with the stabbing. but if people can't escape suffering because they have no peaceful way, expect things like this to happen. expect violence when suffering is extreme. not everyone, but people get pushed too far. and turn it on others instead of themselves. it's all tragic. this is all horrific. no excuses, but what humans often create is hell that leads to more evil and hell.

 

[mistymoo]

Ya know, if he wanted to hurt and kill people there's folks on this website quite literally BEGGING to be taken out. This dudes a disgusting coward. If this site gets more attention because of him I'm going to loose my shit

 

[Nobody Special]

Ya know, if he wanted to hurt and kill people there's folks on this website quite literally BEGGING to be taken out. This dudes a disgusting coward. If this site gets more attention because of him I'm going to loose my shit

We will be the scapegoats. No one cares about us.

 

[mistymoo]

We will be the scapegoats. No one cares about us.

You're so right it hurts :(

 

[3/4Dead]

If there's a god, they hate SaSu and want us to be in the public spotlight desperately
im going to bed.

 

[Deleted member 8119]

gets flooded with newcomers

Yeah, newcomers bad. We don't like foreigners. If someone's suffering they should suck it up... right?

Be a bit friendlier, man

I'm also not concerned. The anti-SS people are dumb as a sack of bricks. Every attempt to close the forum backfired spectacularly. The more they try, the more our message is spread. We're on solid legal ground.

Edit: Wow, I read the comments and they're surprisingly good. THIS SITE IS STRONGLY AGAINST TAKING OTHER LIFES. This actions are shunned and forbidden by the forum as a whole.

 

[mistymoo]

Yeah, newcomers bad. We don't like foreigners. If someone's suffering they should suck it up... right?

I'm also not concerned. The anti-SS people are dumb as a sack of bricks. Every attempt to close the forum backfired spectacularly. The more they try, the more our message is spread. We're on solid legal ground.

Personally I agree that we should be welcoming new members with open arms. Even if folks don't want to ctb there's still some really good recovery resources on here. Hell, even if you're not depressed and you're having the best time of your life I think there's invaluable research that could be done on this site. If society ever gets past the stigma of ctb then we can start to be properly heard and taken serious.

I'm ONLY worried about the bad press. Thank you for reassuring me w the legal aspect!

 

[avalonisburning]

FFS. If you're really committed to making your suffering other people's problem, at least take the time to divorce yourself from all of the communities that once welcomed you. Don't make us an accessory to your garbage so we get lumped in with it after the fact. If we knew your endgame was a violent bigoted outburst, you would never have been welcomed here. We wouldn't want you. Nobody would want you!

This is the only little corner of the internet we have, and rotten, selfish little pieces of rat shit like you jeopardize even that.

 

[rozeske]

I can't describe why.. but these comments that go like

"Oh, I'm suicidal and I would never hurt anyone"

Always make me cringe for some reason.

Yes, I am suicidal and I would never hurt anyone, not by murdering them on my way out, not by leaving a vengeful suicide note blaming them for my death. I only want to take myself out of my misery. It doesn't make me sweet, kind or "not like other suicidals". It just makes me a suicidal person.

Suicidality doesn't automatically equal wanting to hurt others. There is a different term for that.

What always makes me cringe is people associating suicidality to wanting to hurt or take as much people as possible on your way out.

 

[cowboypants]

I hope this explains for the people. Its a racially motivated crime that has little to do with us or being suicidal itself imo. They have completely a different kinda mindset

Several news sites claimed he also wore a "black sun," a Nazi symbol made up of several swastikas, on his chest.

5 injured in stabbing at mosque in Turkey

www.voanews.com

 

[Jeav]

I hope this explains for the people. Its a racially motivated crime that has little to do with us or being suicidal itself imo. They have completely a different kinda mindset

We can't judge the situation we just know that he had horrible parents and that's enough to turn people brain and emotions off.

 

[samsara_96]

I've just checked the local news for you. Nobody is talking about this site and I doubt that they will because the media already turned the issue into a political one. As far as I understand, the guy has been withdrawn from society due to his mental problems and kept spending his days online in incel communities. He wrote a manifesto explaining his motives. His ideas are clearly influenced by the Turkish incel community who tend to blame Arabs, Jews, communists and religious Anatolian people for every problem. He defines himself as a national socialist who cannot realize his political dreams (murdering all Arabs and other Muslims in Turkey) because of the "Jewish control" of the world. So, now the media is rightfully blaming Ümit Özdağ (a Hitler wannabe) for introducing disgusting talking points to Turkish political scene and the gaming communities which the guy belonged to. Some communists are also taking this opportunity to play the victim and claim that they are always the victim of hate. Nobody even cares that the guy has been suicidal since middle school.

 

[Cress]

I'm not surprise

I mean the mass majority of people that think about catching the bus and taking their own life never have it turn into wanting to harm others. However there is always the risks that it does. I don't know how you would ever prove it But I have a personal theory that self harm tends to be the introductory step for some people to transition into wanting to harm others. If we become better at taking care of one another We could see a dramatic decrease in these sorts of incidents. So much of society likes Push these people off to the side and let them suffer in darkness.

The issue Is medical professionals Like psychiatrist and therapist are really really behind and really not very effective at treating most people. We have an epidemic of males 20 to 35 taking their own life being the number one cause of death for this age range. Why this doesn't have similar amounts of funding to something like cancer I have no idea. According to Google 600,000 people died per year from cancer and 700,000 people died from suicide To me they seem relatively comparable.

In addition to medical professionals being woefully under equipped society as a whole camp properly support friends family and social circles. We spend so much time over driving the economy we barely have any time to see friends and family. We are so isolated from one another we can't properly take care of one another like we could in the past.

For a lot of people the only value that they see in themselves is their job and they tie their personal value to what job they hold. The reality is is you are not your job and occupation. These two things really shouldn't be linked together as strongly as they are.

I'm reminded of a Tutorial for a video game ranking system and during the tutorial the guy explains that you are not your rank and to just enjoy your time no matter where you end up. It's silly but such a thing can apply to the job market and profession as well.

I hope someday we really have the ability to properly take care of one another And can take the time to develop relationships with friends and family instead of this tremendously isolated culture that we live in for so many people. Although I'm gonna be honest I fully expect society to continue to ignore Issues surrounding suicide as much as possible All the way up until the very last moment when people become self-destructive.

Once you look into some of the statistics and understand the numbers you realize that at some point society will Have to deal with these things at some point As it's just going to keep increasing, But hey at least until that day comes we can be happy to know That shareholder profits are up And the country's gross domestic product is doing good.

 

[cowboypants]

We can't judge the situation we just know that he had horrible parents and that's enough to turn people brain and emotions off.

I too had bad parents etc but I wouldnt go around trying to kill people. That doesn't give anyone a free reign.