FAILED AT EVERYTHING

[SadCryingBunny]

I came to this site thinking I would find a suitable suicide method. I am very disappointed to say I'm still alive and the hype towards nitrogen was bullshit. Both the charcoal and nitrogen method failed. Charcoal levels were over 2000ppm and I couldn't even pass out. Nitrogen after inhaling for over a minute my head felt like it was going to explode. Literally. It's why the prisoner executions took 15 minutes. Nitrogen ain't a damn peaceful way to go. Is there any other methods besides hanging? Wtf do I do just continue fucking living until I grow old and cry myself to sleep.

 

[hell toupee]

Given CTB is a very big and final decision, it's just not something that can be done quick and impulsively - not saying you are impulsive, just saying in general. There are quite a few variables and technicalities that go with each method.

The first thing I would do is try to figure out why your attempts failed. With Nitrogen and other inert gasses it's difficult because they have to be used in an environment that is completely devoid of oxygen. It sounds to me like you were inhaling some amount of Oxygen in your attempt, but I don't know enough about the steps you took to determine that.

When you say charcoal was 2000ppm, are you talking about CO and a BBQ? As far as I know, I thought CO levels had to be closer to 10,000ppm to be lethal.

I don't think it's the Nitrogen or charcoal that failed you - those indeed can be very deadly when done properly. The problem seems to be with the way you used them. You need to take your time and research these methods for them to be effective.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

Given CTB is a very big and final decision, it's just not something that can be done quick and impulsively - not saying you are impulsive, just saying in general. There are quite a few variables and technicalities that go with each method.

The first thing I would do is try to figure out why your attempts failed. With Nitrogen and other inert gasses it's difficult because they have to be used in an environment that is completely devoid of oxygen. It sounds to me like you were inhaling some amount of Oxygen in your attempt, but I don't know enough about the steps you took to determine that.

When you say charcoal was 2000ppm, are you talking about CO and a BBQ? As far as I know, I thought CO levels had to be closer to 10,000ppm to be lethal.

I don't think it's the Nitrogen or charcoal that failed you - those indeed can be very deadly when done properly. The problem seems to be with the way you used them. You need to take your time and research these methods for them to be effective.

I was fully breathing nitrogen only. Once my oxygen brain levels fall to zero. My head literally feels like it's going to explode. This method doesn't work. Regarding charcoal, getting it to 10000ppm is probably impossible unless I burn many pots in a small room and the heat will just be so intense or I'll likely burn my self.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I came to this site thinking I would find a suitable suicide method. I am very disappointed to say I'm still alive and the hype towards nitrogen was bullshit. Both the charcoal and nitrogen method failed. Charcoal levels were over 2000ppm and I couldn't even pass out. Nitrogen after inhaling for over a minute my head felt like it was going to explode. Literally. It's why the prisoner executions took 15 minutes. Nitrogen ain't a damn peaceful way to go. Is there any other methods besides hanging? Wtf do I do just continue fucking living until I grow old and cry myself to sleep.

I'm sorry you're having a tough time, and I feel for you. I know it's very frustrating. However, from what I've read and what I've been told, nitrogen + mask and nitrogen + bag are not going to be the same experience. I knew someone who was able to ctb with nitrogen + homemade exit bag. He did several tests & said it was completely euphoric. I plan to go this way myself in a few months time. I honestly think that if you try a test run with the recommended oven bag, you're far less likely to experience the negative effects you felt with the mask.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

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I'm sorry you're having a tough time, and I feel for you. I know it's very frustrating. However, from what I've read and what I've been told, nitrogen + mask and nitrogen + bag are not going to be the same experience. I knew someone who was able to ctb with nitrogen + homemade exit bag. He did several tests & said it was completely euphoric. I plan to go this way myself in a few months time. I honestly think that if you try a test run with the recommended oven bag, you're far less likely to experience the negative effects you felt with the mask.

don't want to spend anymore money. I've even tried breathing from just the hose with nothing on my face and still head wants to explode

 

[hell toupee]

I was fully breathing nitrogen only. Once my oxygen brain levels fall to zero. My head literally feels like it's going to explode. This method doesn't work. Regarding charcoal, getting it to 10000ppm is probably impossible unless I burn many pots in a small room and the heat will just be so intense or I'll likely burn my self.

The post above seems to be implying that you used a mask with the nitrogen?

That's probably your problem right there. Oxygen masks usually don't form a tight seal and there are vents because your exhaled breath has to have somewhere to escape. So it really does sound like you were breathing some amount of oxygen along with the Nitrogen.

Can you specify what type of mask this was?

As to CO, a quick check on Google for CO and concentration levels shows 2,000ppm as not even being able to induce unconsciousness, or at least not reliably. At 3400ppm, consciousness is only lost after long term exposure. You need way higher levels than that.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

The post above seems to be implying that you used a mask with the nitrogen?

That's probably your problem right there. Oxygen masks usually don't form a tight seal and there are vents because your exhaled breath has to have somewhere to escape. So it really does sound like you were breathing some amount of oxygen along with the Nitrogen.

Can you specify what type of mask this was?

As to CO, a quick check on Google for CO and concentration levels shows 2,000ppm as not even being able to induce unconsciousness, or at least not reliably. At 3400ppm, consciousness is only lost after long term exposure. You need way higher levels than that.

I used a scuba mask and then hose itself inside my mouth. It wasn't working. My heads going to explode. This method is garbage

The post above seems to be implying that you used a mask with the nitrogen?

That's probably your problem right there. Oxygen masks usually don't form a tight seal and there are vents because your exhaled breath has to have somewhere to escape. So it really does sound like you were breathing some amount of oxygen along with the Nitrogen.

Can you specify what type of mask this was?

As to CO, a quick check on Google for CO and concentration levels shows 2,000ppm as not even being able to induce unconsciousness, or at least not reliably. At 3400ppm, consciousness is only lost after long term exposure. You need way higher levels than that.

Look at how much red charcoal I had burning. It was insanely hot in there after 30 minutes. Levels must've been very high. My device only measures up to 1000 and it was maxed out. Must've been at least 2000 give or take.

 

[hell toupee]

I used a scuba mask and then hose itself inside my mouth. It wasn't working. My heads going to explode. This method is garbage

Ok.

It appears you already have all the answers, so I'll leave you to it.

I hope you find some peace in whatever you do.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

Ok.

It appears you already have all the answers, so I'll leave you to it.

I hope you find some peace in whatever you do.

Thank you. As I stated, I literally did the charcoal correctly. It's glowing red. I followed all the steps. If it requires more heat, then this isn't the method for me as it's already unbearable and I can't imagine it in a tent. Also the risk of accidental fire is real. Nitrogen is worse as my brain is signalling to my head that it's not getting oxygen and it feels like it's going to explode. You seriously think if Nitrogen was so peaceful people, it would be the #1 method everywhere.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

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don't want to spend anymore money. I've even tried breathing from just the hose with nothing on my face and still head wants to explode

Of course it didn't feel right with just the hose, it was never meant to be used that way. It was meant fine done with a bag. Exit bag materials shouldn't exceed twenty or thirty bucks. You seem very determined to go about these methods in ways that over complicate them and doom them to fail. Nitrogen + exit bag is not a "garbage method" for someone who actually wants to ctb; as the saying goes, it's as good as it gets. This may be a sign that it would be best to take time to reconsider.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

Ok

Of course it didn't feel right with just the hose, it was never meant to be used that way. It was meant fine done with a bag. Exit bag materials shouldn't exceed twenty or thirty bucks. You seem very determined to go about these methods in ways that over complicate them and doom them to fail. Nitrogen + exit bag is not a "garbage method" for someone who actually wants to ctb; as the saying goes, it's as good as it gets. This may be a sign that it would be best to take time to reconsider.

Ok can you link me to an exit bag please. How do I connect the hose/gas supply. What do I do if my head is still feeling like it will explode?
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Of course it didn't feel right with just the hose, it was never meant to be used that way. It was meant fine done with a bag. Exit bag materials shouldn't exceed twenty or thirty bucks. You seem very determined to go about these methods in ways that over complicate them and doom them to fail. Nitrogen + exit bag is not a "garbage method" for someone who actually wants to ctb; as the saying goes, it's as good as it gets. This may be a sign that it would be best to take time to reconsider.

I tried the proper way with a mask and still wasn't working. Taking too long to pass out

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Ok

Ok can you link me to an exit bag please. How do I connect the hose/gas supply. What do I do if my head is still feeling like it will explode?
I tried

I tried the proper way with a mask and still wasn't working. Taking too long to pass out

It seems that discomfort is to be expected with masks. I'm following the instructions from the megathread here & the pph. Taping the hose at the top of the inside of the bag, etc. Scrunching all of the air out of the bag & letting it fill with gas first. Should pass out after a few breaths.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

It seems that discomfort is to be expected with masks. I'm following the instructions from the megathread here & the pph. Taping the hose at the top of the inside of the bag, etc. Scrunching all of the air out of the bag & letting it fill with gas first. Should pass out after a few breaths.

Well if the mask isn't working after a minute of breathing, how will the bag differ? It will actually be worse. The mask at least has an exhaust valve to expel co build up.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Well if the mask isn't working after a minute of breathing, how will the bag differ? It will actually be worse. The mask at least has an exhaust valve to expel co build up.

Again, you're overthinking & unnecessarily overcomplicating it. If bags were "worse", they wouldn't be recommended. There would be no inert gas & exit bag megathread on this site. The PPH would not recommend it. Several of us have taken the time to explain how it differs. If you want to reject the idea that an exit bag may be better, that's up to you. The gas comes in at the top of the bag, and pushes co down and out at the opposite end since the bottom does not get sealed.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

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Again, you're overthinking & unnecessarily overcomplicating it. If bags were "worse", they wouldn't be recommended. There would be no inert gas & exit bag megathread on this site. The PPH would not recommend it. Several of us have taken the time to explain how it differs. If you want to reject the idea that an exit bag may be better, that's up to you. The gas comes in at the top of the bag, and pushes co down and out at the opposite end since the bottom does not get sealed.

Again you're not answering/addressing the problem. I can't, sincerely can't tolerate the exploding head feeling that comes after about a minute of breathing. How is an exit bag going to resolve or improve this sensation?

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

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Again you're not answering/addressing the problem. I can't, sincerely can't tolerate the exploding head feeling that comes after about a minute of breathing. How is an exit bag going to resolve or improve this sensation?

Others have addressed it but you haven't listened. In a bag, consciousness is lost within 15-20 seconds.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

Others have addressed it but you haven't listened. In a bag, consciousness is lost within 15-20 seconds.

Hmm how does a bag make consciousness quicker than a full face scuba mask?

Others have addressed it but you haven't listened. In a bag, consciousness is lost within 15-20 seconds.

Secondly I have not read where others have explained to me directly how the sensation with a bag improves however i will try it.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

The sources (and the person I knew who ctb) say that's how quickly loss of consciousness occurs with a bag. If you're still conscious at a full minute with the mask, that's an indication that something isn't right. Also, you're certain it was flowing at the right rate & that the conversion was done correctly (assuming your flowmeter is in cfh & not lpm)? Just thought I'd ask. No reason not to give the bag a chance if you're sure you want to ctb, otherwise it's back to square one, or abandoning the idea entirely.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

The sources (and the person I knew who ctb) say that's how quickly loss of consciousness occurs with a bag. If you're still conscious at a full minute with the mask, that's an indication that something isn't right. Also, you're certain it was flowing at the right rate & that the conversion was done correctly (assuming your flowmeter is in cfh & not lpm)? Just thought I'd ask. No reason not to give the bag a chance if you're sure you want to ctb, otherwise it's back to square one, or abandoning the idea entirely.

I transferred the gas to my scuba bottle to be able to use a scuba mask. I had gas on demand breathing through regulator cable tied to mask.

The sources (and the person I knew who ctb) say that's how quickly loss of consciousness occurs with a bag. If you're still conscious at a full minute with the mask, that's an indication that something isn't right. Also, you're certain it was flowing at the right rate & that the conversion was done correctly (assuming your flowmeter is in cfh & not lpm)? Just thought I'd ask. No reason not to give the bag a chance if you're sure you want to ctb, otherwise it's back to square one, or abandoning the idea entirely.

Could you link me how to make the bag or a professional one to purchase.

The sources (and the person I knew who ctb) say that's how quickly loss of consciousness occurs with a bag. If you're still conscious at a full minute with the mask, that's an indication that something isn't right. Also, you're certain it was flowing at the right rate & that the conversion was done correctly (assuming your flowmeter is in cfh & not lpm)? Just thought I'd ask. No reason not to give the bag a chance if you're sure you want to ctb, otherwise it's back to square one, or abandoning the idea entirely.

Can I try it with a plastic bag sealed on my head sticking a hose through the bag until I get the actual one. I've asked chat gpt and it says I will get the same sensation of the explosive head feeling. I also get it from partial hanging. I'm tired of living, I just want to be dead.
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I transferred the gas to my scuba bottle to be able to use a scuba mask. I had gas on demand breathing through regulator cable tied to mask.

Could you link me how to make the bag or a professional one to purchase.

Can I try it with a plastic bag sealed on my head sticking a hose through the bag until I get the actual one. I've asked chat gpt and it says I will get the same sensation of the explosive head feeling. I also get it from partial hanging. I'm tired of living, I just want to be dead.

It also says risk of Risk of cardiac arrhythmia before passing out. I don't want to end up backing out and end up with health problems.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I don't want you to end up with health problems either. If you have any qualms about it, do not proceed. If you do choose to proceed, it needs to be done in a calmer manner than this. It sounds like the problem was with the mask or the scuba bottle, and I repeat… it was transferred to the bottle, but then how did it flow from the bottle into the mask at the correct rate per minute? How is that controlled when it goes into an extra bottle? It sounds like that solves the mystery right there. The method will not work if the gas isn't flowing at the proper rate per minute. The instructions on the megathread are a good guide on how to prepare the bag. According to the megathread; the bag cannot be sealed with tubing sticking through. It does not sound as though you've read it yet. None of this should be done in a hurry. If it's done in a haphazard or careless manner, it will probably fail.

I transferred the gas to my scuba bottle to be able to use a scuba mask. I had gas on demand breathing through regulator cable tied to mask.

Could you link me how to make the bag or a professional one to purchase.

Can I try it with a plastic bag sealed on my head sticking a hose through the bag until I get the actual one. I've asked chat gpt and it says I will get the same sensation of the explosive head feeling. I also get it from partial hanging. I'm tired of living, I just want to be dead.
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It also says risk of Risk of cardiac arrhythmia before passing out. I don't want to end up backing out and end up with health problems.

However, hold on… you said you don't want to end up backing out & end up with health problems. Please, please, please, do not attempt if you think you will end up backing out. If you succeed, it is permanent & can never be undone. Being tired of living and being ready to stop living forever are not the same thing.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

I don't want you to end up with health problems either. If you have any qualms about it, do not proceed. If you do choose to proceed, it needs to be done in a calmer manner than this. It sounds like the problem was with the mask or the scuba bottle, and I repeat… it was transferred to the bottle, but then how did it flow from the bottle into the mask at the correct rate per minute? How is that controlled when it goes into an extra bottle? It sounds like that solves the mystery right there. The method will not work if the gas isn't flowing at the proper rate per minute. The instructions on the megathread are a good guide on how to prepare the bag. According to the megathread; the bag cannot be sealed with tubing sticking through. It does not sound as though you've read it yet. None of this should be done in a hurry. If it's done in a haphazard or careless manner, it will probably fail.

However, hold on… you said you don't want to end up backing out & end up with health problems. Please, please, please, do not attempt if you think you will end up backing out. If you succeed, it is permanent & can never be undone. Being tired of living and being ready to stop living forever are not the same thing.

It was gas on demand. The scuba mask wasn't free flowing. It would release nitrogen every breath I took. Please send me a link to a step by step guide thread on how to seal the bag and connect the hose. So can't I test it before dying to see how it feels. Other people have done tests before going unconscious. Thank you

 

[FuneralCry]

I really understand, it's just so cruel to me how there aren't just guaranteed ways to be free from this torturous existence, I always suffer so much from being trapped in this existence suffering so unnecessarily, I hope you find peace, I wish you the best.

 

[SadCryingBunny]

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I really understand, it's just so cruel to me how there aren't just guaranteed ways to be free from this torturous existence, I always suffer so much from being trapped in this existence suffering so unnecessarily, I hope you find peace, I wish you the best.

I am so sad I'm crying I just want to please die