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singularity3

singularity3

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Apr 2, 2023
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I was doing experiments with myself using tourniquet method. It would be an "under-research" option which is so cheap and easy. There are salvament tourniquet in the internet to buy them which could be usefull. Anyways this is a "risky method" bc we have a poor data about it

This method would consist of wearing one of these around your neck. Rotating the stick, leaving it attached to the fixing piece.


As you tighten it. You feel increasingly dizzy immediately.

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Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Arcanist
Sep 10, 2023
424
This seems a similar to night night. I like this idea. Tie your neck and cut the blood flow off. How easily can you pass out from this?
 
singularity3

singularity3

Experienced
Apr 2, 2023
213
This seems a similar to night night. I like this idea. Tie your neck and cut the blood flow off. How easily can you pass out from this?
I got dizzy pretty quickly until my SI intervened. It is better than night-night because you only need the tourniquet, no socks or accessories for the arteries
 
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4g1vvvven

🔍 Looking for the nicest exit 🚪
Feb 14, 2023
179
> salvament tourniquet in the internet to buy them which could be usefull. Anyways this is a "risky method" bc we have a poor data about it

What is a salvament tourniquet?

All methods seem risky to me, perhaps unsurprising when successes can't really self report 😓

Botched attempts scare me so much, sorry to hear about the SI (I take it you weren't just experimenting)

Interesting post!
 
Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Arcanist
Sep 10, 2023
424
I got dizzy pretty quickly until my SI intervened. It is better than night-night because you only need the tourniquet, no socks or accessories for the arteries
This would solve a lot of problems for me so this might become my prefered method. Thanks a lot for sharing this!
 
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UKscotty

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May 20, 2021
2,071
Very very risky, you will be out cold in seconds and may even feel drunk or high from it.

Is nuts how many people are playing around with this method.

Hanging is not a method to experiment with or use as a cry for help or control. It's fast and deadly.

No one should be doing anything to stop their blood flow to the brain unless they are ready to CTB in the next few minutes.
 
Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Tokugawa_Yoshinobu

Arcanist
Sep 10, 2023
424
Very very risky, you will be out cold in seconds and may even feel drunk or high from it.

Is nuts how many people are playing around with this method.

Hanging is not a method to experiment with or use as a cry for help or control. It's fast and deadly.

No one should be doing anything to stop their blood flow to the brain unless they are ready to CTB in the next few minutes.
Agreed. This should only be used if you really want to die and know that you are ready.
 
singularity3

singularity3

Experienced
Apr 2, 2023
213
I think this thread should be include as another method. It's much better than night-night
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Battered_Seoul

Experienced
Jun 13, 2018
230
Having spent a while weighing up anchor points, the flexibility of this appeals.

How easy was it to release when the panic set in?
 
Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
251
Having spent a while weighing up anchor points, the flexibility of this appeals.

How easy was it to release when the panic set in?
If applied correctly, loss of consciousness can occur within 15-30 seconds (same as what happens with fainting). Lot of autoerotic asphyxiations is labeled as suicide because it's so easy to accidentally kill yourself by choking yourself out. You want to pinch the carotids closed. Permanent brain damage sets in within 2-4 minutes of it happening. So don't do it unless you are ready. Difficult to coordinate hands to untie that wench when you're dizzy. Not painful (at least to me), can provide an almost slightly euphoric feeling, and one of the more humane methods of killing oneself that is inexpensive and impossible to regulate against.
 
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Battered_Seoul

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Jun 13, 2018
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If applied correctly, loss of consciousness can occur within 15-30 seconds (same as what happens with fainting). Lot of autoerotic asphyxiations is labeled as suicide because it's so easy to accidentally kill yourself by choking yourself out. You want to pinch the carotids closed. Permanent brain damage sets in within 2-4 minutes of it happening. So don't do it unless you are ready. Difficult to coordinate hands to untie that wench when you're dizzy. Not painful (at least to me), can provide an almost slightly euphoric feeling, and one of the more humane methods of killing oneself that is inexpensive and impossible to regulate against.
Thank you for the response. Is there a preferred side of the neck to position the lever itself?
 
Placo

Placo

Student
Feb 14, 2024
127
Thank you for the response. Is there a preferred side of the neck to position the lever itself?
In theory it would be better to apply more pressure on the side where the oxygenated blood coming from the heart goes towards the brain, this should guarantee rapid loss of consciousness, but I don't remember if it is the right or left side, some research would need to be done.
 
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LetMeBeSad

LetMeBeSad

Student
Sep 21, 2023
156
Ratchet straps would be better. Nothing to tie into place after you're done. Just keep ratcheting until you can ratchet no more. And it'll stay no matter how you fall or flop around.
 
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strangelife

strangelife

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Feb 16, 2024
369
How painful is this method and how real is it? I have a feeling that many people are playing with this method, but almost no one gets to ctb or something does not work out.
 
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Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
251
Thank you for the response. Is there a preferred side of the neck to position the lever itself?
In theory it would be better to apply more pressure on the side where the oxygenated blood coming from the heart goes towards the brain, this should guarantee rapid loss of consciousness, but I don't remember if it is the right or left side, some research would need to be done.
You're cutting off carotids on both sides of your neck simultaneously. All arteries leading from your aorta to your brain are mirrored on both sides of your body from the neck up. So it doesn't matter what side you ratchet on.
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How painful is this method and how real is it? I have a feeling that many people are playing with this method, but almost no one gets to ctb or something does not work out.
It's general strangulation. It is a more efficient method than night-night because a tourniquet is designed to choke out a limb circumferentially so that it can no longer receive oxygen, no matter where you place it on the body. A tourniquet can work on a thigh, which tends to be thicker than the neck. It's 'safer' in that if you flail from SI you won't knock anything off and accidentally stop your suicide attempt. You don't have to be laying down to do it like you kind of do with night-night. It can be done anywhere. It's transportable and less confusing.

It's not painful to me up until I release the tourniquet. Then my throat hurts. You can get a massive headache from strangulation when you release it because the blood is rushing back to your head. Glad that I finally found my CTB method. I can carry a tourniquet on my person at all times.

I might recommend finding a slimmer tourniquet like this
Place a thin piece of fabric underneath it so it doesn't pinch your skin.
Easier to tighten quickly and less surface area to apply to your trachea.
Remember to practice on a limb to assure you're doing the right tourniquet technique before attempting on your neck. Tighten fast.

You can do it with a shoelace too if the commercial tourniquet gives you bad feeling in the head.
 
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Battered_Seoul

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Jun 13, 2018
230
You're cutting off carotids on both sides of your neck simultaneously. All arteries leading from your aorta to your brain are mirrored on both sides of your body from the neck up. So it doesn't matter what side you ratchet on.
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It's general strangulation. It is a more efficient method than night-night because a tourniquet is designed to choke out a limb circumferentially so that it can no longer receive oxygen, no matter where you place it on the body. A tourniquet can work on a thigh, which tends to be thicker than the neck. It's 'safer' in that if you flail from SI you won't knock anything off and accidentally stop your suicide attempt. You don't have to be laying down to do it like you kind of do with night-night. It can be done anywhere. It's transportable and less confusing. Doesn't require finagling to find a 'sweet spot'.

It's not painful to me up until I release the tourniquet. Then my throat hurts. You can get a massive headache from strangulation when you release it because the blood is rushing back to your head. Glad that I finally found my CTB method. I can carry a tourniquet on my person at all times.

I might recommend finding a slimmer tourniquet like this
Place a thin piece of fabric underneath it so it doesn't pinch your skin.
Easier to tighten quickly and less surface area to apply to your trachea.
Remember to practice on a limb to assure you're doing the right tourniquet technique before attempting on your neck. Tighten fast.

You can do it with a shoelace too if the commercial tourniquet gives you bad feeling in the head.

The quick release tourniquet is tightened with a simple direct pull? That sounds much easier; I ordered the same tourniquet as in the pictures at the start of the thread but I can very easily see that stick being fiddly to turn quickly.

I read that Docker recommends a position high up near the jaw, but as my jawline is weak I've had better results nearer the base of my neck with a criss-cross rope pull test.
 
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Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
251
The quick release tourniquet is tightened with a simple direct pull? That sounds much easier; I ordered the same tourniquet as in the pictures at the start of the thread but I can very easily see that stick being fiddly to turn quickly.

I read that Docker recommends a position high up near the jaw, but as my jawline is weak I've had better results nearer the base of my neck with a criss-cross rope pull test.
Yes it is tightened with a single pull. I think it might be easier to tighten quickly than traditional tourniquets and gives you a safer 'out' if you experience SI [a single button press to release vs having to reverse ratchet]. Haven't tried it with that sort of tourniquet though. I'll buy one and let you know how it goes. Supposed to arrive Apr1-3. If I don't post back here by the 5th, either it accidentally killed me or I was having a bad day and CTB'd.
 
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Battered_Seoul

Experienced
Jun 13, 2018
230
Tested the thread-starting tourniquet on my thigh. It looks flimsy but it packs some punch.

I'm a little apprehensive of the lever/windlass or whatever it's called unwinding back before its placed in the cradle. Unsure if it's possible to get more than four turns in total from the fabric available.
 
Placo

Placo

Student
Feb 14, 2024
127
I'm undecided whether to use this method or the plastic bag method, to beat the SI you could handcuff yourself behind your back once the tornquet is closed.
 
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Battered_Seoul

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Yes it is tightened with a single pull. I think it might be easier to tighten quickly than traditional tourniquets and gives you a safer 'out' if you experience SI [a single button press to release vs having to reverse ratchet]. Haven't tried it with that sort of tourniquet though. I'll buy one and let you know how it goes. Supposed to arrive Apr1-3. If I don't post back here by the 5th, either it accidentally killed me or I was having a bad day and CTB'd.

The quick release mechanism works well. The tightening was slower than I anticipated. I'm trying to work out the best angle to tilt the lock for the pull.
 
Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
251
It arrived but I'm a 30 min drive away from the delivery and tornadoes are likely to form between now and midnight so I can't get it right now ;-;
 
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arthurkuzechov

arthurkuzechov

Student
Mar 15, 2024
100
I was doing experiments with myself using tourniquet method. It would be an "under-research" option which is so cheap and easy. There are salvament tourniquet in the internet to buy them which could be usefull. Anyways this is a "risky method" bc we have a poor data about it

This method would consist of wearing one of these around your neck. Rotating the stick, leaving it attached to the fixing piece.


As you tighten it. You feel increasingly dizzy immediately.

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Thanks for the thread! It's very helpful! I've been tiring night night method - but there was not so much pressure as it needed. Also I tried tourniquet method, but there was not so much pressure too. And there is your post I found quick release tourniquet! I already did order it! It'll arrive about 3 hours! Imma test it tonight! Thanks a lot!
 
arthurkuzechov

arthurkuzechov

Student
Mar 15, 2024
100
I've got quick release tourniquet. And what I wanna say. This stuff is better that ratchet with the cornhole bags from night night method.
1. The width of quick release tourniquet is smaller. So it doesn't push the trachea/Adam's apple.
2. The material of it is softer so it doesn't harm the skin.
3. It got a good fabric elasticity so you can just tight it very hard. And the pressure is stronger than I'd got from the ratchet, and even from the traditional tourniquet methods with rope or other stuff.
4. It has a easiest lock mechanism, you can lock in and lock out it very fast.
5. It's cheaper than ratchet and cornhole bags.
I did test it a little bit, and I like it more. It seems that it is that device what I wanna use for CTB and it's that device which could compress the carotid arteries in my case. 2F6397F3 B04E 40A7 878E 47EA61514AB1
 
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Battered_Seoul

Experienced
Jun 13, 2018
230
I'm wondering if the use of more than one tourniquet is redundancy or overkill.
 
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Battered_Seoul

Experienced
Jun 13, 2018
230
I've got quick release tourniquet. And what I wanna say. This stuff is better that ratchet with the cornhole bags from night night method.
1. The width of quick release tourniquet is smaller. So it doesn't push the trachea/Adam's apple.
2. The material of it is softer so it doesn't harm the skin.
3. It got a good fabric elasticity so you can just tight it very hard. And the pressure is stronger than I'd got from the ratchet, and even from the traditional tourniquet methods with rope or other stuff.
4. It has a easiest lock mechanism, you can lock in and lock out it very fast.
5. It's cheaper than ratchet and cornhole bags.
I did test it a little bit, and I like it more. It seems that it is that device what I wanna use for CTB and it's that device which could compress the carotid arteries in my case.View attachment 134136
I'm testing with this and encountering the problem that if I pull too fast it ends up pulling the band away from the neck.
 
arthurkuzechov

arthurkuzechov

Student
Mar 15, 2024
100
I'm testing with this and encountering the problem that if I pull too fast it ends up pulling the band away from the neck.
Yeah, it could be like that. Maybe the reason is bad quality of that stuff(
 
Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
251
Got mine. It works. If your jugulars are too fat and you keep compressing them, implement some of the night-night techniques to tape some little caps or something to your neck to press against the carotids and then tighten with the band.

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Quick release in case you feel SI.

Going to cut mine because I'm so impulsive and I don't want to do it when my dog is still here.
 
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Battered_Seoul

Experienced
Jun 13, 2018
230
RST100 Viable? Looks more robust. Called a rapid action tourniquet. The Combat tourniquet is proving fiddly.
 

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