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Those both work on psi. How many liters per min do I need regulator to doYou need a regulator that lets you set litres per minute.
Those both work on psi. How many liters per min do I need regulator to doYou need a regulator that lets you set litres per minute.
15 liters per minute. Also, please read the inert gas chapter of the ppeh:Those both work on psi. How many liters per min do I need regulator to do
They are in deed not that common. Are you searching locally or online ?Cannot for life of me find a liters per min regulator. They're either psi or kPA
I'm surprised by this. I live in Europe and when googling for nitrogen tanks have found plenty of US companies/welding shops (that shipped only in the US).I can't find a single company that sells prefilled nitrogen tanks online that ships to the United States.
Is there any problem if nitrogen is used in the car to CTB? Do I still need a regulator? In a car, is it okay just to open the valve of the nitrogen cylinder after the doors and windows are closed? Is there anything else to be aware of? I have 1600L of nitrogen, is this enough?I'm talking with a guy who is testing an implementation of the SCBA setup with an industrial Nitrogen regulator and it seems like the regulator is not sensitive enough to maintain the proper pressure for the demand valve, so I don't recommend trying to implement that type of setup anymore.
They way to go is using full SCBA equipment and connect it to the Nitrogen cylinder using an air-to-nitrogen adapter (like my setup) or with the EM SCBA which uses a Nitrogen medical regulator that connects natively to the cylinder (like Bengal's or imcadt99's setups).
Thank you for the response. Can you please tell me what term you googled that brought up shops that ship to US? Are you sure they were not just empty tanks? I found plenty of companies that will ship empty tanks but none that will ship tanks prefilled with the nitrogen. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.I'm surprised by this. I live in Europe and when googling for nitrogen tanks have found plenty of US companies/welding shops (that shipped only in the US).
99% of EU companies will not ship abroad, only inside the country they operate, because of safety regulations on pressurized stuff. Same with US, they don't ship to EU.
America is one of the places where getting a nitrogen tank is the easiest and you still have Am--on and E-ay US marketplaces.
That's unviable with compressed gas, you need a huge volume for the car method so it would have to be with Liquid Nitrogen (which has a huge 1:694 expansion ratio, that's why they are gonna use it in the Sarco). All the documented deaths by changing a vehicle's atmosphere to inert gas are with Liquid Nitrogen.
The bag with the pillow inside looks huge. What are the measurements ?I made the very simple exit bag, those pictures above are what it looks like. Also the nitrogen and the regulator, I know the regulator might be a safety hazard to use on this nitrogen tank, but I don't have a better option at the moment. I wonder if there are any other issues with these looks?
What happens in this case ? Does the LDV not deliver enough nitrogen to breathe in ?and it seems like the regulator is not sensitive enough to maintain the proper pressure
I can tell you but you need 10 posts to PM--Yes, they are filled Nitrogen tanks, not empty onesThank you for the response. Can you please tell me what term you googled that brought up shops that ship to US? Are you sure they were not just empty tanks? I found plenty of companies that will ship empty tanks but none that will ship tanks prefilled with the nitrogen. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
I'm very interested in reading about those.All the documented deaths by changing a vehicle's atmosphere to inert gas are with Liquid Nitrogen.
The bag with the pillow inside looks huge. What are the measurements ?
This is just my guess and I may be wrong but I feel like your bag is way too big to purge CO2 effectively and you will need a much higher flow rate than 15LPM. Also, given that you don't have a suitable regulator, I think you're better off with using a smaller bagYes, it's big, it can wraps my head all over the way up to my chest.
I see, so the 15lpm regulator only works for small exit bags, right?This is just my guess and I may be wrong but I feel like your bag is way too big to purge CO2 effectively and you will need a much higher flow rate than 15LPM. Also, given that you don't have a suitable regulator, I think you're better off with using a smaller bag
It will take much long until it's filled. Just take bag measurements and calculate it's volume, then you use that value and divide by 15 to get howI see, so the 15lpm regulator only works for small exit bags, right?
and EEBD HoodsI see, so the 15lpm regulator only works for small exit bags, right?
Congrats on your setup and having the courage to test it!I tried to ctb with my argon bag last night and failed. I was well drunk and did everything right. After I barely 10s I think I started to get high like on nitrous oxide for those who have tried it. I took the mask off after 15s I would say, then I passed out for 5sec with again nitrous oxide high like. So I think the setup is correct. I just have to face this survival instinct now...
So what I need is: a nitrogen cylinder, a 15lpm regulator, and an EEBD hood?and EEBD Hoods
yes, but a 'click' regulator, that is, a regulator with a flowmeter --Flowmeter only way to control the flowSo what I need is: a nitrogen cylinder, a 15lpm regulator, and an EEBD hood?
How about this regulator?yes, but a 'click' regulator, that is, a regulator with a flowmeter --Flowmeter only way to control the flow
YesHow about this regulator?
And the SCBA mask works because there's an exhale valve or something?The bag must never be sealed around the neck, a gap is needed for CO₂ purging.
Yes, both the EEBD hood and SCBA have exhale vales that automatically purge out CO2And the SCBA mask works because there's an exhale valve or something?
So it looks like I only need an EEBD hood now? And the EEBD hood is a perfect alternative to the exit bag, right?
Yes, the Hood I got had the tubing already attached , so I just put the other end on the flowmeter, done various tests--Its amazing how the Nitrogen gets rid of the Oxygen in your body so easilySo it looks like I only need an EEBD hood now? And the EEBD hood is a perfect alternative to the exit bag, right?