Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[Sirius]

I'm also considering this.

Exit bag w/gas seems like it would be less distressing but set up is more complex and labor intensive. SN is easier to execute on but I am concerned about those minutes before unconsciousness.

It's SECONDS About 3 deep breaths

 

[Righttodie]

Unable to find a vinyl tubing of the right size anywhere near me. Was wondering if a scuba diving hose might work instead, it would be easier to get my hands on. Something like this. https://www.simplyscuba.com/products/miflex-xt-tech-regulator-hose-120cm

Any thoughts ?

 

[frees]

Unable to find a vinyl tubing of the right size anywhere near me. Was wondering if a scuba diving hose might work instead, it would be easier to get my hands on. Something like this. https://www.simplyscuba.com/products/miflex-xt-tech-regulator-hose-120cm

Any thoughts ?

You can order tubing online. It has very widespread uses

 

[Righttodie]

You can order tubing online. It has very widespread uses

You meant to say that ordering this scuba hose would work just as well as a vinyl tube ?

 

[frees]

You meant to say that ordering this scuba hose would work just as well as a vinyl tube ?

No, i meant that you can order vinyl tubing. I dont know what kind of regulator you are planning to use and if some scuba hose would fit.
Are you having trouble determining the right size of vinyl tubing?

Search Amazon for PVC tubing. Thousands of hits.

 

[Righttodie]

No, i meant that you can order vinyl tubing. I dont know what kind of regulator you are planning to use and if some scuba hose would fit.
Are you having trouble determining the right size of vinyl tubing?

Your answer confused me as I was looking to know if a scuba hose would do the job. Finding a viny tubing and it's sellers has been a hassle as not many sources to look for here in South East Asia, as much as there would be in the west.

My regulator is a medical grade regulator like the max dog one, click type Oxygen Regulator, has a large outlet connection where the tubing has to go, came with a Christmas tree style connector.

Again, do I need to bother with making sure it's a viny tubing or it makes no difference if I were to choose a scuba hose ?

Thanks

Edit :
My concern is not so much about finding the right size of scuba hose, but whether whatever material a scuba hose is made up of won't come in the way of achieving my goal.

 

[frees]

Any hose that fits will do.
I would not buy that scuba hose. Too short, and you will have trouble removing the connectors and pushing it on the christmas tree connector (braided/rigid).
Look for any plastic tubing.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

Is there any successful report on SS with Nitrogen?

 

[Righttodie]

Any hose that fits will do.

That's what I was looking for. Thanks

 

[frees]

That's what I was looking for. Thanks

I would not buy that scuba hose. Too short, and you will have trouble removing the connectors and pushing it on the christmas tree connector (braided/rigid).

Good search terms are pvc tubing, aquaristic tubing, fuel hose, oxygen tubing

Is there any successful report on SS with Nitrogen?

Yes, and its a generally proven method. Breathing pure nitrogen --> quick death.
Many observed and reported uses, actively developed and recommended by the various right-to-die groups. Its in all the books.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

Good search terms are pvc tubing, aquaristic tubing, fuel hose, oxygen tubing

Yes, and its a generally proven method. Breathing pure nitrogen --> quick death.
Many observed and reported uses, actively developed and recommended by the various right-to-die groups. Its in all the books.

I know, I just was refering about some personal story like many that are read here, with SN for example.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Exit bag w/gas seems like it would be less distressing but set up is more complex and labor intensive. SN is easier to execute on but I am concerned about those minutes before unconsciousness.

It's SECONDS About 3 deep breaths

Yes, thank you. I was referring to SN taking minutes til loss of consciousness.

 

[SuicideByBelt]

Where can I find a video on the construction of the Exit Bag?

 

[frees]

Where can I find a video on the construction of the Exit Bag?

 

[Sirius]

Unable to find a vinyl tubing of the right size anywhere near me. Was wondering if a scuba diving hose might work instead, it would be easier to get my hands on. Something like this. https://www.simplyscuba.com/products/miflex-xt-tech-regulator-hose-120cm

Any thoughts ?

Try a pharmacy that sells at home medical equipment

 

[tehdisturbedone]

Fuck me, do you really need a fucking 600-liter tank. How the fuck is someone going to hide a 600 liter tank of noble gas

 

[dreamsofdestruction]

Fuck me, do you really need a fucking 600-liter tank. How the fuck is someone going to hide a 600 liter tank of noble gas

That's just 3 liters compressed at 200 bar though? A 3 liter tank like this one is just 10cm x 10cm x 63cm. I even have a 5 liter at home which is just slightly larger.



But I guess it depends on who you're going to hide it from and where you live.

 

[Sirius]

Fuck me, do you really need a fucking 600-liter tank. How the fuck is someone going to hide a 600 liter tank of noble gas

Painted mine red and threw a lamp shade on it- NO ONE NOTICES

 

[tehdisturbedone]

That's just 3 liters compressed at 200 bar though? A 3 liter tank like this one is just 10cm x 10cm x 63cm. I even have a 5 liter at home which is just slightly larger.

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But I guess it depends on who you're going to hide it from and where you live.

At the worst I was going to buy a mig gas compatible welder and just say I need this as a shield gas to weld

 

[dreamsofdestruction]

At the worst I was going to buy a mig gas compatible welder and just say I need this as a shield gas to weld

I just ordered it (helium) online from an industrial supplier and nobody cared. They also would've offered nitrogen.

 

[tehdisturbedone]

I just ordered it (helium) online from an industrial supplier and nobody cared. They also would've offered nitrogen.

I don't live on my own, I live in my parent's house with one of my sisters and my parents go through damn near everything I have. I'd have to have some kind of alibi or whatever

 

[morningdew]

Is there any successful report on SS with Nitrogen?

Good question, I'd like to know as well. It's been my option of choice after researching methods.

 

[realjunes]

My experience was that I soon began to feel tingling in my hands, as if they were falling asleep. A short moment later I began to get dizzy, and my vision went grey around the edges. Each of the three times I have attempted this method, that's as far as I got before I flinched and removed the bag.

I did not experience any pain whatsoever, and no real discomfort aside from the mild tingling in my hands.

I do not believe I have suffered any ill effects from three aborted attempts. I had a bit of a cough for a couple days after my third attempt, but I can't say for sure whether that was attributable to the N2. It concerns me only in that this method demands that you be able to breathe freely in order for it to be effective, and I don't want to have ruined my chances to use it later, when I have summoned my courage.

My greatest difficulty is that I have been very stressed during my attempts, and could not keep my breathing steady and deep. This undoubtedly lengthened the amount of time it should have taken for me to black out.

In the stress of the situation, I experienced time dilation —in other words, I can't tell you how long it took for me to feel dizzy; it might have been five seconds, it might have been a minute and a half. It wasn't very long —but it was long enough for me to flinch.

From my experience, this is as painless, comfortable, and potentially peaceful a way to ctb as it is rumored to be. The only drawbacks that I can see are that it requires a lot of equipment —cylinder, regulator, hose, bag— and that there is a surprising amount of time for your survival instinct to kick in, or for second thoughts.

As I wrote at the beginning, I hope other forum members can fill in some of the blanks I have left —specifically, I have seen a lot of questions about tank sizes outside the US that I cannot answer.

I don't wish anyone good luck at catching the bus. I wish we could all find our way to a joyous and satisfying life that would make death an unfortunate reality rather than a longed-for relief. But all of us here know that the Fates aren't always that kind, and so I wish you all the most peaceful relief from your pain that you can find, and if that peace is brought by Death, I hope Death comes gently.

Tired Horse. I just joined this forum and consequently, am just now reading your excellent explanation about inert gas. It is very thorough and patient and I know from reading about this for over 2 years, I have not run across as good and helpful and full explanation as yours. I have read hundreds of questions from people who understandably are panicked about what to say and do and where to source things. Really great and thank you for the time and details you expended in writing this post. I tend to think, if one can be determined enough to go through with it, it may be the best way in that it makes you unconscious the fasted with no bitter liquids to deal with. Thank you.

 

[dreamsofdestruction]

I don't live on my own, I live in my parent's house with one of my sisters and my parents go through damn near everything I have. I'd have to have some kind of alibi or whatever

Oh, I thought you were referring to problems dealing with the suppliers. Yeah, well, helium is used for balloons of course, but I'd have no clue what to tell family to explain why I need a 3 liter tank of it right now either, lol.

Good question, I'd like to know as well. It's been my option of choice after researching methods.

It should make no difference, the only requirement is that you're breathing something inert and the CO2 you breathe out does not accumulate. There's a paper about a guy who committed suicide using nitrogen and a scuba mask. Linked (among others) in this thread.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

Is there any successful report on SS with Nitrogen?

Good question, I'd like to know as well. It's been my option of choice after researching methods.

One was fairly recent – @fister He stopped posting suddenly, and then someone saying they knew him in real life reported a few days after his last post that he had ctb'ed.

@Smilla was another, although she had been banned from the site by admins. From what I understand after reading the User Discussion Megathread, she remained in close touch/friendship with some users who reported she was preparing to ctb very soon. They say she eventually stopped responding to messages, which was highly unusual for her, so they took that as indicator that she had more than likely ctb'ed.

 

[GerMann]

This I found on ebay.de for 50,- €uro, what do you think about it?
Called: "Gesichtsmaske Industriearbeitsschutzmaske Strahlhaube Sand Schleifkorn"

engl.: "Safety Sandblast Helmet Sand Blast Hood Protector for Sandblasting"

 

[kerolox]

This I found on ebay.de for 50,- €uro, what do you think about it?
Called: "Gesichtsmaske Industriearbeitsschutzmaske Strahlhaube Sand Schleifkorn"

Looks like it would probably work but I don't see it being functionally any better than a plastic bag.

 

[Sirius]

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This I found on ebay.de for 50,- €uro, what do you think about it?
Called: "Gesichtsmaske Industriearbeitsschutzmaske Strahlhaube Sand Schleifkorn"

engl.: "Safety Sandblast Helmet Sand Blast Hood Protector for Sandblasting"


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NO exit for the CO2 ! You'll feel like your suffocating in no time

 

[GerMann]

There is a one-way-ventil in the front (the withe round thing) for the exhaled air


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The reason is, I don't like the thin roasting plastik folia called exit bag with the need of extra handcraft , and a tight diver-mask need a breathing regulator called scuba, wich is expensive and I think a little bit too complicated for me.

 

[Alex R]

I don't know how to adjust the gas flow of 15 liters per minute, in our country there are no such reducers as max dog.

Maybe someone has thoughts?
I have high hopes for this method.