Do you believe there will be a need world order where there will be a one world government and world currency? power will be centralized and a select few billionaires or corporations will rule us?
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No, not really. The world seems too divided for that.
Grav
Wizard
- Jul 26, 2020
- 649
While I do believe those in charge want as much power as they can get to do nothing but hurt the populace, I think other countries are all run by people who want to be "the one", no sharing. Even on "world uniting issues" there is always something going on that shows the fractures.
The term "New World Order" has nothing to do with conspiracies or conspiracy theories, originally. In reality, a "New World Order" is a political term, which for example can mean - if you take World World II as an example - if the Axis powers would win, that would mean that there would be a "New World Order" in accordance with the Axis powers' wills, since the world would function differently compared to before World War II.
However, the term "New World Order" is often used when talking about conspiracies today, and most notably about The Illuminati, The Bilderberg Group and similar constellations. Personally, I don't believe that we need to reach that far, even, because the World Economic Forum has made it amply clear that they, basically, wish to bring about their own kind of "New World Order".
I agree with you and was getting at the WEForum without wanting to name that evil group of people. They want to rule over us and I wonder if they will accomplish their goal. I hope to be gone by then. Then again, part of the agenda they have is to depopulate the world
Don't worry - we will own nothing, eat ze bugs and be happy while living under Ze Great Reset
I wonder, though.... is Russia and China in on the plan, or will those western NWO powers simly not have any chance at implementing their new world if - let's say - there's a third world war between the west, Russia and China?
Grav
Wizard
- Jul 26, 2020
- 649
Russia is being eliminated if this is their plan. Check out the BRIC plans and China looking at using their crypto. Doubtful they could pull it off as all the minor nobles want to be the King.
Ruling the whole world is a popular idea but difficult to achieve and maintain. The closest are probably the British empire, and the us led globalisation right now but is coming to an end. Other attempts might have succeeded in controlling certain aspects of most human lives, but far from everything in the nwo sense, and not as invincible as they wanted. Us dollar is seriously challenged, eu not in good health, un no one cares, big corps come and go, virus not anything near a nwo scale (maybe more coming), war still waiting for the next big one... Communism, with other leftish movements, is probably the most promising and visible attempt to achieve nwo status right now.
In the next decades the world is likely to be fragmented/multipolar, but surveillance, censorship, oppression everywhere. With or without nwo, life would still be bad for most people.
In the next decades the world is likely to be fragmented/multipolar, but surveillance, censorship, oppression everywhere. With or without nwo, life would still be bad for most people.
I believe that although Putin and Jinping have been invited to and attended Davos numerous times (to talk about the USA), they are a thorn in the side of the WEF. What's that old adage about "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
We'll see more surveillance and censorship with corporations continuing to gain a lot more power. I'm waiting for these corporations to start turning against each other and the WEF. Reminds me of game of thrones.
Funny, we have the power to stop all this. If only we would stop using facebook, tiktok, twitter, microsoft, etc and all of these companies' products, their stocks would tank and they'd lose power quickly.
I guess our society is too dependent on social media. I bet we'd see a happier society overall with lower suicide rates and depression if we could just shut off social media.
The WEF and architects of globalism are playing our dependence to their advantage.
We'll see more surveillance and censorship with corporations continuing to gain a lot more power. I'm waiting for these corporations to start turning against each other and the WEF. Reminds me of game of thrones.
Funny, we have the power to stop all this. If only we would stop using facebook, tiktok, twitter, microsoft, etc and all of these companies' products, their stocks would tank and they'd lose power quickly.
I guess our society is too dependent on social media. I bet we'd see a happier society overall with lower suicide rates and depression if we could just shut off social media.
The WEF and architects of globalism are playing our dependence to their advantage.
100% correct and spot on. Censorship and oppression will continue to be increased. We're in for quite a ride. Hold on to your hats.
China historically thinks itself center of world. Communism, nwo, and China have much in common. China is not yet able to take on u.s. directly. But if u.s. is entrenched in some major conflict, then china has a chance to take over. China therefore supported Russia to provoke the u.s. But the Ukraine conflict doesn't turn out to be in china's favor. It exposes many weaknesses of Russia. Given it's domestic situation, china will probably close its iron curtain soon to avoid direct confrontation. Because of china's geography, the outside world probably won't bother to mess with China, unless china insists, but it won't. Back to the cold war.
The source of china's surveillance technology no doubt came from outside. China developed it, put into real use and tested it on real people. Like in the old days, companies tested their prototypes in other countries. The products will eventually go back home. Some people think it's less of a problem to let china or Russia have their data (think TikTok), but what makes them think china and Russia won't sell their data back to their countries? In a globalized world, it's hard to tell who deals with whom.
If many people have strong awareness and willingness to resist surveillance and censorship, it could tilt the balance. It's costly and inefficient for business and authorities to force things through. But if people so easily give up their privacy and give away their data (for vanity?), big brothers will just push further.
The source of china's surveillance technology no doubt came from outside. China developed it, put into real use and tested it on real people. Like in the old days, companies tested their prototypes in other countries. The products will eventually go back home. Some people think it's less of a problem to let china or Russia have their data (think TikTok), but what makes them think china and Russia won't sell their data back to their countries? In a globalized world, it's hard to tell who deals with whom.
If many people have strong awareness and willingness to resist surveillance and censorship, it could tilt the balance. It's costly and inefficient for business and authorities to force things through. But if people so easily give up their privacy and give away their data (for vanity?), big brothers will just push further.
Yakamoz
passer-by
- Jun 26, 2022
- 280
nixdeath
Member
- May 3, 2022
- 93
I think if there were a NWO, there would be Snowden style leaks by now.
VirtualSnow
who knows
- May 21, 2022
- 110
If there's a group sophisticated enough to establish a NWO, they are definitely also capable of ruling it without much noise.
nixdeath
Member
- May 3, 2022
- 93
I don't see how its possible to run such a massive operation without much noise. It only takes one person to slip for us to all know.
VirtualSnow
who knows
- May 21, 2022
- 110
The idea of a massive operation itself is what doesn't feel realistic at all, it has never been executed as far as we know (and in case it has, it just proves that it can be ran without people realizing). If there was a NWO, I think it wouldn't be as mystic and enormous as people think, but rather like powerful enough entities (let it be governments, corporations or any kind of group) constantly influencing society to their favor.
I believe that's called lobbying.
enough of this
Specialist
- Jun 4, 2023
- 324
From what I understand, and there so much irrefutable evidence, that's the plan. I don't think it's going nearly as well as they've planned it, though. Too many people are waking up to the dark state's agenda and are not being compliant.
AlbigenseanGhoul
Duke of Notting Toulouse
- Jun 9, 2023
- 11
I mean, when 1% of the world's population personally own more than 50% of the world's wealth, not even including all people who are under their thumb, is a NWO World Government even desirable? Just five corporations had as revenue 2 trillion dollars in 2022, which is equivalent to the GDP of more than half of the world's countries. Only one of them Chinese (Petro China). And after the Snowden leaks it was revealed that basically every giant internet corporation collaborates with the CIA and FBI for surveillance, including internet backbone ones like Cloudflare. And whenever somebody tries to fight those corporations like Moisë or Morales, their countries receive giant worldwide sanctions, and their governments are toppled. think we already live in a world government at this point. Or, more to the point, the word "government" is outdated.
I feel like the concept of a New World Order is pretty outdated. We already have a system of mass control to keep the few in power and the many at the mercy of those at the top. And nearly every major corporation, brand and industry has either Blackrock or Vanguard as a majority shareholder - who also have majority shares in eachother which is wild. Consumer brands, Banking, Oil, Real Estate, Media… they even have a hand in the Military Industrial Complex. Some argue that they don't actually have power or ownership over their clients, being investment and risk management companies. But they do use special software to manage assets and make suggestions on how its clients spend their money.
Corporate influence and money hold a great amount of power over global politics, and in the US especially is this rampant. It's not even conspiracy theory at this point, it's all public information. Its not some faceless cabal with nefarious intentions, you can see exactly who runs these companies. And It's inevitable that the rest of the world will be consumed by this - that's just the nature and progression of hyper-capitalism.
I'm not smart, and I don't know everything. But its pretty easy to see the influence the almighty dollar has over our lives.
Corporate influence and money hold a great amount of power over global politics, and in the US especially is this rampant. It's not even conspiracy theory at this point, it's all public information. Its not some faceless cabal with nefarious intentions, you can see exactly who runs these companies. And It's inevitable that the rest of the world will be consumed by this - that's just the nature and progression of hyper-capitalism.
I'm not smart, and I don't know everything. But its pretty easy to see the influence the almighty dollar has over our lives.
Disappointered
Enlightened
- Sep 21, 2020
- 1,239
Obviously there are always going to be internecine squabbles and there are several factions who all want their piece of the pie but there is one faction in particular that is known to have been working throughout the centuries to consolidate its power. Turns out it's not that hard to hijack human minds after a certain threshold of consolidation in the media, which is why people can't see it or self-censor themselves like full blown mental slaves as depicted by Orwell. The faction that has shifted from the word "government" to "governance" so as to make it less obvious and is currently busy controlling all discourse in the direction of private-public partnership even writes about it in their own publications. It is the premise for their entire religion so people who can't figure it out are either retarded or completely mind-controlled through the use of emotional manipulation, among other tactics.
Yes, of course that is the goal. My god, they openly admit it. As for WEF that weird German guy was promoted heavily all of a sudden...and then who comes out of the wood work and appears to be lecturing the "nazi" about what the future will be like? You guessed it. Every. Fucking. Time. But hey, what's the diff now in any case, i mean we're all here in hopes of ending our lives so who cares. Besides, I'm sure it can be a relatively comfy existence if you just say what you're supposed to...think what you're supposed to. Why even care about what's real and what isn't? We've got drugs, we've got porn, we've got video games and the internet and social media. What could go wrong? Just trust those who've taken charge. Don't look where you're not supposed to, don't wrong think (seriously, if you think grad school is appealing you need to get on board with right think or you probably won't even find a supervisor) and everything will be fine. And people who make you doubt are dangerous. I guess it's best if they die or are jailed.
Yes, of course that is the goal. My god, they openly admit it. As for WEF that weird German guy was promoted heavily all of a sudden...and then who comes out of the wood work and appears to be lecturing the "nazi" about what the future will be like? You guessed it. Every. Fucking. Time. But hey, what's the diff now in any case, i mean we're all here in hopes of ending our lives so who cares. Besides, I'm sure it can be a relatively comfy existence if you just say what you're supposed to...think what you're supposed to. Why even care about what's real and what isn't? We've got drugs, we've got porn, we've got video games and the internet and social media. What could go wrong? Just trust those who've taken charge. Don't look where you're not supposed to, don't wrong think (seriously, if you think grad school is appealing you need to get on board with right think or you probably won't even find a supervisor) and everything will be fine. And people who make you doubt are dangerous. I guess it's best if they die or are jailed.
MeltingBrain
Mage
- May 29, 2023
- 550
Are you talking about jews in USA ? I think most of them occupy important positions due to being more meritocratic than the general population .
I have seen this particular conspiracy theory in RW circles but has no evidence to back it up .
Disappointered
Enlightened
- Sep 21, 2020
- 1,239
For a second there, when you mentioned the chosen master race and most trustworthy of thought leaders (due to higher IQs except at ellis island and also due to dry cleaning, because otherwise even if we suddenly believe in IQ again it still wouldn't make sense given they're 2% of the population) I thought that you were going to speak negatively about them and that I'd have an ethical duty to report you or worse. Political appointees in the US are indeed well-known for the strictly meritocratic basis of their selection. Just ask Nobel Peace Prize winner Obama (given almost immediately after he took office shortly before he started bombing people but that's how we know the bombing was totally justified and unavoidable) or PNAC or all our neo-conseravtive totally right-wing friends or the large numbers of other super-geniuses and empathetic bon vivants who got the chance to meet important leaders of the light unto the nations at Jeffrey Epstien's island.
I actually wasn't talking about meritocracy - because we know that we and the Ukrainians are totally meritocratic - but I do see how you might have worried that I was questioning their chosen and meritocratic consolidation of power. I was more just wondering how anyone could think that Tikkun Olam, the all-seeing eye on the capstone sitting on top of the supreme court of the Jewish State, and Jews talking about it in select publications to different degrees based on the expected audience (hey, it's normal, "kya" right?) didn't mean that their goal is global "governance", with Jerusalem as its capital. Of course they wield grossly disproportionate control over most parts of most powerful countries since they're just better in all ways - the meritocratic Biden gov't's appointees prove that in any case, plus it makes sense that they'd be the best appointees since they've been playing the roles of court jews for centuries, thankfully.
But I'm glad you mention it because some people have been circulating crazy nonsense about how meritocracy doesn't function exactly the way we all know it does in the US gov't. or even elsewhere, like university admissions (whch can't be true because Jews have higher IQs since certain IQ tests are now valid again). Weird stuff about how Jews always existed as a subversive state within a state...even in Roman times! Which blew me away because apparently that created some friction even prior to the hatred that xianity created. Sort of like how most people believe the Jewish State shining a light for the world is justified, which it is, because of the Great Evil that happened during WW2 (to the Jews, obviously) when it was actually justified long before, which is why the beginnings of the colonization of their homeland also started before.
As an aspiring Noachide and slave, my favorite religion is obviously Judaism. But that's just me. Because Jews aren't monolithic and most aren't religious (although thankfully they all just more rational. (helpful hint if you haven't already heard it yet : that last phrase is important if you want to do well when networking among Americans. you'll thank me later).
MeltingBrain
Mage
- May 29, 2023
- 550
Like you said, Politics is murkier but if a group does well in an intellectual affair it is likely to do well in others as well . Jews disproportionately do well in STEM, literature and economics . All these fields are meritocratic and largeky considered free from politics .
^Source: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/inte...won-a-disproportionate-share-of-nobel-prizes/
I have never heard talks about global governance by jews with Jerusalem as the power , what proof do you have for this ?
There are allegations that Israel has occupied land and questions about human rights conduct by Israel in that region. I don't know much about this topic , It's a long complex history . I haven't given it enough time to form an opinion . My previous comment was not relating to Israel-Palestine conflict but rather on why jews generally do well in whichever field they enter especially in USA.
angel31
sause
- Jun 14, 2023
- 237
I dont believe that there will be only one government but a select few billionaires ruling our lives… seems like what we have rn
thesockshavebeenuse
Member
- Jun 24, 2023
- 5
Absolutely, our world leaders have admitted it themselves.
Disappointered
Enlightened
- Sep 21, 2020
- 1,239
I don't consider those fields (including STEM) free from politics but even if I did, the fact that one ethnicity is deemed inherently superior doesn't explain such an high degree of over-representation in the US government if they make up roughly 2% of the population and their average SAT scores aren't higher than those of Asians, who do very "well in intellectual affairs".
re Jerusalem as capital: Menachem Froman (religious), Jacques Atali (non-religious...although the religion that binds all jews nowadays is "The Shoah", which flatters in that it supposedly supports the self-appointed chosenness from where the exclusionary exceptionalism that The Other often criticizes derives).
See Run Unz (Jewish) for information about jewish over-representation at top tier universities not corresponding to merit.
There is also eye-opening information, framed as a story of heroic resistance against antisemitism, about Kaplan.
The phenomenon is much more expansive than the current (or any) US government. I will DM you if you want to discuss it further since the rest borders on thought crime.
enough of this
Specialist
- Jun 4, 2023
- 324
DarkRange55
Enlightened
- Oct 15, 2023
- 1,256
If there is an "Illuminati," in the US, the wheel turns by itself and they don't need to do anything anymore… we do it to ourselves…
As for a global currency: Something like the Amero? No way .. different countries, economies and central bank policies. Basic monetary economics.
Globally - the US is used as the basis of trade (at least for now) and we also have a few other global reserve currencies.
The country is run by rich people and its very clear. Any conspiracies like its devil worshippers from another dimension or something and the ultra-powerful all knowing government is just a distraction. we're talking about a government that couldn't hide a president getting a blowjob or fake WMD in Iraq. The PATRIOT Act was passed openly in the halls of congress.
Though, I am curious who was behind Epstein…?
"Not some men-in-black guy living in a bunker somewhere, but some seemingly ordinary and mundane guy. Maybe a military officer? Maybe a CIA employee? Maybe a White House staffer? Somebody with years of experience and a mid to high level rank/authority?
The deep state are bureaucrats that are appointed, not elected, it is the congress critters who have a $128K/annual salary who are worth $200M, it's the people who have been in office for decades blaming everything else for why their constituency is worse off. It is the FBI and CIA that have more power than sovereign countries and that have unlimited funding due to clandestine activies and asset seizures."
As for a global currency: Something like the Amero? No way .. different countries, economies and central bank policies. Basic monetary economics.
Globally - the US is used as the basis of trade (at least for now) and we also have a few other global reserve currencies.
The country is run by rich people and its very clear. Any conspiracies like its devil worshippers from another dimension or something and the ultra-powerful all knowing government is just a distraction. we're talking about a government that couldn't hide a president getting a blowjob or fake WMD in Iraq. The PATRIOT Act was passed openly in the halls of congress.
Though, I am curious who was behind Epstein…?
"Not some men-in-black guy living in a bunker somewhere, but some seemingly ordinary and mundane guy. Maybe a military officer? Maybe a CIA employee? Maybe a White House staffer? Somebody with years of experience and a mid to high level rank/authority?
The deep state are bureaucrats that are appointed, not elected, it is the congress critters who have a $128K/annual salary who are worth $200M, it's the people who have been in office for decades blaming everything else for why their constituency is worse off. It is the FBI and CIA that have more power than sovereign countries and that have unlimited funding due to clandestine activies and asset seizures."
"Yes, there is a conspiracy, indeed there are a great number of conspiracies, all tripping each other up ... the main thing that I learned about conspiracy theories is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in the conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy, or the grey aliens, or the twelve-foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control, the truth is far more frightening; no-one is in control, the world is rudderless"
- Alan Moore
I love games like Deus Ex, which actually veers heavily into NWO territory, but the world is far too chaotic for any of it to be true. If you wish to read into it, I would read into it as a extreme-case scenario. I find it disturbing how people latch onto genuine concerns, only to lash out onto the exact wrong things.
Five Eyes sharing your information? Perfectly fine, nothing wrong with protecting America.
Some politicians doing less than the minimum to mitigate enviromental damage? Satanic NWO, that's what it must be!
The US overthrowing and strongarming countries into their international market? God save the troops!
Some people selling books to children with trans people in them? Must be NWO, cause I, Karen, could never approve of this.
Capitalism running a MGS2-style censorship to make information irrelevant? The invisible hand of the free market!
Some scientists are doing some meteorology tests in Alaska? Satan himself must be behind the NWO now!
It's quite disheartening. Truth is that glowies have been known to spread false conspiracies to people, so as to discredit anything they may have come close to or to make anyone similar-looking look bad or to spread fear or even just to make them go insane. Look up COINTELPRO and Paul Bennewitz, both cases of the government spreading conspiracies for their own purposes. I even remember a case of a federal agent being exposed in a court document to have participated in 8chan threads about mass shootings (or something similar to that). The closest thing to an NWO is the United States foreign policy. They overthrew democracies in Latin America and the Gulf War was a disgusting sham. It is a known fact the Kuwaitis started provoking Iraq into attacking and the US knew about it. It's that and Chinas iron grip on the international markets balls. The same thing the US did to Vietnam, Iraq and Argentina, they are now doing to Cuba, Palestina and Yemen.
- Alan Moore
I love games like Deus Ex, which actually veers heavily into NWO territory, but the world is far too chaotic for any of it to be true. If you wish to read into it, I would read into it as a extreme-case scenario. I find it disturbing how people latch onto genuine concerns, only to lash out onto the exact wrong things.
Five Eyes sharing your information? Perfectly fine, nothing wrong with protecting America.
Some politicians doing less than the minimum to mitigate enviromental damage? Satanic NWO, that's what it must be!
The US overthrowing and strongarming countries into their international market? God save the troops!
Some people selling books to children with trans people in them? Must be NWO, cause I, Karen, could never approve of this.
Capitalism running a MGS2-style censorship to make information irrelevant? The invisible hand of the free market!
Some scientists are doing some meteorology tests in Alaska? Satan himself must be behind the NWO now!
It's quite disheartening. Truth is that glowies have been known to spread false conspiracies to people, so as to discredit anything they may have come close to or to make anyone similar-looking look bad or to spread fear or even just to make them go insane. Look up COINTELPRO and Paul Bennewitz, both cases of the government spreading conspiracies for their own purposes. I even remember a case of a federal agent being exposed in a court document to have participated in 8chan threads about mass shootings (or something similar to that). The closest thing to an NWO is the United States foreign policy. They overthrew democracies in Latin America and the Gulf War was a disgusting sham. It is a known fact the Kuwaitis started provoking Iraq into attacking and the US knew about it. It's that and Chinas iron grip on the international markets balls. The same thing the US did to Vietnam, Iraq and Argentina, they are now doing to Cuba, Palestina and Yemen.
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