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deomlez

Not english native speaker. Ctb is my life.
May 19, 2023
330
rationnaly i am not a bad person, i know i m smart and know how to create good relationship with humans.
But emotionnaly i am another person, but i don t know who - i know me and my reactions and thoughts - always thinking I WANT TO BE ME without knowing what it means.
There is a fight inside me between all those parts. Sometimes i hate me so that i would like to destroy myself with hammer. Sometimes i calm down and am able to accept my qualities.
I am so tired to be the place of all that mess...
 
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EndOfTheLine84

Member
Aug 8, 2023
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Well, as I am someone who has just woken up and had the denial total lift off my whole past false narrative of the NPD (Narcissistic personality disorder), and now I can see everything that I thought about the past interactions with the people closest to me in my life, that is was all a lie that my subconscious and NPD told my conscious mind, saying that it was everyone else's fault, and now I see that it was all me, I pushed away and hurt those closest to me, those that I needed and valued in my life, including the woman of my dreams 12 years ago after we got married, and I didn't even realise that a dark hidden side of me was writing emails that I never remember writing which were nasty and clearly designed to make her run away from me, and she tried to get it to work with me, but I was not really in charge, the dark side of me was subconsciously, hurting her when she attempted to come close, and eventually she ended up in the arms of another man, who she is still with to this day, and I had suppressed the memories unknowingly until this day with the narrative I thought was one of her leaving me, when this could not be further from the truth.
Now I am a shell of a man, abused in childhood by my two narcissistic parents, one of which was my alcoholic abusive father who would beat my mother black and blue, all in front of me, and then both would ignore me when I went to show them something or speak to them, or anything that required them giving me attention even for a second.
My childhood was one of trauma, shouted at and insulted for everything or outright ignored.
Therapy helped me realise that this had damaged the way I developed my attachment style, and this would then follow on throughout my life as the years passed, and was why I would stare at the ground alone at lunch time at school, and in high school would throw desks at the teacher in defiance and aggression and rage.
Wrote my first suicide poem at age 11,, and my mother scolded me with anger for disrespecting her for doing so.
As an adult I have lost everything that I loved through the damage that was caused in childhood by my abuse, and then affecting my ability to form any sort of friendships or perform well at school in all stages of my schooling, and then as an adult I found alcohol, which made me feel better temporarily, but caused me to go gradually into an ever descending downward spiral, and now I look back sober for 3 years (yay "you should be proud everyone says", and I just give them a stone cold look, they just don't understand, that my whole life has been trauma and loss, and pain, seeing opportunities slip away due to my NPD, and being unable to take those opportunities because of the NPD, including the woman of my dreams who wanted to love me so much, but my NPD took over and closed her out due to what I now know is it's deep fear of abandonment that my parents caused to maladaptively develop inside me.
Now I look back to my whole past, and see no joy, nothing there except what could have been, painfully and tragically stolen from me, worse than having been in a coma for those years as I can see what I could have had, and what was painfully taken away by NPD caused by my childhood trauma, pain all through my life, pain and loss and misery, all the way up to now where I am almost 40 years old, and seeing the love of my life happy and married to the man that she replaced me with 12 years ago, and more wreckage along the way, so there is nothing to hold onto from my past, just pain I caused others that drove them away, and ultimately as I hurt the ones I loved, the ones closest to me that I needed and wanted in my life, that ultimately hurts me, and the present I feel guilt, shame, anger, frustration, regret, hopelessness hatred of myself and hatred of my parents who betrayed me.
There is no future for me, as I am already dead inside, I died long ago, or maybe I never existed at all, my body a wandering suffeering breathing corpse, wandering the earth in pain and suffering and despair until old age end my suffering? I don't think that is fair on me, it gives me great sadness to have to admit that my entire life was ultimately a failure, even though I tried my best, and endured great suffering, but I must now have the courage to finally admit that enough is enough and it is time, the 11 year old me who decided to see if life gets any better in the coming years, to my 11 year old self from back in 1996 I sadly have to say tom him that it sadly did not get any better, only more pain and misery, tragic heartbreak and loss. I know how he would react, he would nod his head at me that 11 year old me from 1996, and say "I understand, you did your best, but it's time now", it's time to find peace that I could never find in this world, let alone the fact I only ever got teased with grasping any joy, but it was all out of reach due to the NPD caused by childhood abuse that I never asked for and never deserved. To hate myself, yes maybe I do, so I have realised that I am both giving myself the death penalty, and at the same time showing myself the ultimate merciful pathway to peace, not on this earth, but in whatever comes next, even that is total nothingness, as if to be unborn, then that is fine by me, because I can not imagine anything worse than what I have had to endure whilst alive in my life, and indeed it is time to call this fight off, and let me rest in peace, leaving all the traumatic emotions that I could never handle nor make sense of, and even though I was never taught how to have empathy, I will show myself mercy, for that is the least that I deserve, even if I hate myself for all the pain I have caused others, and I am sorry for such, I am so deeply sorry, not least to my 11 year old self who wrote that beautiful suicide poem called "suicide, I'm already dead inside" back in 1996, and that title fits perfectly for how I feel now. There is nothing left for me, and there was nothing here for me to begin with, no sense of self-identity, hollow inside, now it's time for my body to catch up to the soul I never had, the ego which never truly existed as anything other than a fabrication of my NPD, and so as I can not access a dignified death due to people seeing Narcissists as cruel and deserving the pain and misery we get, and as right to die as being overall not seen as something that society needs to do sadly, I will being myself deliverance from this torment in a way which I care not for how undignified and messy it is for those who would find me after I am finally free from this suffering, but a way that will give me the best odds of successfully ending my suffering, carefully and meticulously planned, not in a "crisis" as the mental health lingo says, but in the empty and hollow cold calm of a man who either never lived, or who died many years ago, my final act will be one of great effort and planning, and attention to detail to ensure the best chances of success, as I expect nothing less, from a life of complete and utter failure as a man, at least my final act can be the first and last success of this existence, and then I shall be free.
No more hatred, no more pain, no more anything, finally free.
 
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savoytruffle

Student
Mar 31, 2022
197
There are some times, like twice a month that I look at myself in the mirror and think "oh hell yeah im hot shit my hair is great im cool" and then three minutes later I feel so so disgusting and horrible and it feels like i mentally fell down ten flights of stairs and landed on nails. it's exhausting me
 
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trashprincess

trashprincess

She/Slur
Aug 8, 2023
186
I'm convinced I'm the worst person ever, and that dying is the only thing I could ever do to make the world any better. I anxiously await my punishment!
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,920
I don't like or love anything associated with existing, existence has been something I've never wished to endure and there's nothing desirable about being burdened with the ability to suffer endlessly. I don't hate myself exactly but rather what I hate is existence itself as it's the ultimate cause of all harm and suffering, existence is repulsive, I hate how I had to endure existence when there should just be nothingness instead.
 
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ihavenothingleft

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Jul 30, 2023
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Not really I'm too stupid to do anything
 
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.seethroughme.

.seethroughme.

This life has been more than enough for me 😂
Aug 6, 2023
43
Neither Love nor Hate. I frustrate myself more than anything else, because I feel slow and unable to respond to the pressures of life.
 
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my endless blue

my endless blue

maybe in the next life, right?
Apr 22, 2023
31
I like some aspects of myself, really hate some others. I truly believe i'm a bad person, always losing people, always hurting everyone by my side. My personality isn't very good, so it's definitely the thing i hate the most and wish I could change it.
 
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Hodius

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Aug 9, 2023
15
I absolutely hate myself. I think I am the worst person on the planet. I have a terrible personality
 
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hiddenbpd

✌🏼
Oct 19, 2022
196
I hate myself, a lot.
Lately I'm starting to think that's because I'm a stranger to myself; I don't have a true identity, I'm a fake. It's too late for me to change that.
 
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HAL 9000

HAL 9000

Heading toward Jupiter
Aug 3, 2023
56
I love who I'm becoming, but it isn't enough to distract me from the cruel and dull nature of existence.
 
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Specific_Milk

Specific_Milk

Student
Aug 28, 2022
103
HELLLLLLL NAWHHHHHHHHH lol . Fucking hate this fleshbag waste of space piece of shit
 
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brokeandbroken

Enlightened
Apr 18, 2023
1,047
I don't really love or hate myself. Or, maybe I do both in equal measure perhaps. Depends what mood I'm in. Sometimes, I'm more forgiving towards myself than others. I try to be kind to people but I certainly have regrets when I haven't been.

Still- I suppose achievement in my field used to be my main goal. It just doesn't seem to bother me as much that I've failed in many ways. I don't think my future is important- I'm hoping it won't even be there soon- which takes the pressure off of succeeding now. I think I'm feeling as much anhedonia towards myself as I am everything else!
That's probably a healthy way to look at it. Healthier at least. Hopefully you can obtain some achievement!
Thank you so much for the very nice message. I found out that I had gall bladder cancer in March 2014. They took out my gall bladder the same day and then chemo aspects came into play. I was informed that I was cancer free in March 2015.

NOW, in April 2015, I was driving South on a highway and another person was driving East. He came to the stop sign and blew through it without even slowing down. I t-boned him at around 50mph. This was on a Friday evening around 7:30pm and I woke up in ICU on Saturday afternoon. My injuries were, a broken sternum, part of my spinal column was torn from the back base of my brain. The technology is not there yet to be able to fix it to any degree.

Now I have 24/7 chronic pain, and I am losing mobility in my right side. The crash also tore the nerves that connect my right ear drum into my brain, and I am permanently deaf in my right ear.

Th kicker of it all is the person that blew through the stop sign did not get a scratch at all.

You are such a kind, caring and thoughtful soul, and I am so happy and fortunate to have you as a good friend here, thank you for that.

Lots of sunny blue skies and hugs to you,

Walter
Wow that sounds horrendous. To be deemed cancer free and then be hit with that devastating blow.... Are you paralyzed? Or do you have some mobility? I see you most have some in your right side.... I am terribly sorry to hear that. Hopefully technology is able to catch up to your injuries. Maybe stem cell therapy or something....
I have no reason to not like myself or to hate my self. I also don't hate humanity and the world. I might not agree with everything but that's how it is.

I definitely don't like myself, but I've come to the conclusion that I'll never make it in this world. I should be happy, but I'm miserable. I have a lot of decent things going for myself besides my mental illnesses. I hate myself because nothing is enough to keep me here.
Makes sense. The world is a cruel cruel place.
i just considered myself a regular guy. i had no idea how much torment there is with mental issues and nobody will know to be honest unless they've been there. you send people to school to treat this but how can they treat things they do not understand? you cannot help after reading some textbooks.. so then they just prescribe costly drugs that may make you worse..

well that's why they want you alive. to sell you meds and whatever it takes ti keep you in your prison.
There's some truth to the fact they won't know what you are going through from just a textbook. Having been to medical school that does resonate with me. It does suck a lot of these issues they don't spend the time to treat you properly or just throw drugs at you without caring. Sometimes medicine can be an incredibly uncaring profession...
If I liked or loved myself I wouldn't want to kill myself.
That's probably true.
 
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neonzebra

neonzebra

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Sep 11, 2022
68
This is a complicated question. I don't think I hate or love myself to any particular degree. I am certainly finding the life I live difficult and perhaps a lot of it is due to my own behaviour and lack of willpower or ability to make things right. But I also see that those behaviours and lack of power due to things that happened to me in my life and upbringing, as I've always struggled since I was a young child.. can I hate that child? Can I hate my parents who struggled and couldn't help me, or didn't know any better? I don't think I can. I'm just disappointed with the hand I was dealt.
 
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brokeandbroken

Enlightened
Apr 18, 2023
1,047
rationnaly i am not a bad person, i know i m smart and know how to create good relationship with humans.
But emotionnaly i am another person, but i don t know who - i know me and my reactions and thoughts - always thinking I WANT TO BE ME without knowing what it means.
There is a fight inside me between all those parts. Sometimes i hate me so that i would like to destroy myself with hammer. Sometimes i calm down and am able to accept my qualities.
I am so tired to be the place of all that mess...
That makes sense and must be incredibly difficult to deal with.
Well, as I am someone who has just woken up and had the denial total lift off my whole past false narrative of the NPD (Narcissistic personality disorder), and now I can see everything that I thought about the past interactions with the people closest to me in my life, that is was all a lie that my subconscious and NPD told my conscious mind, saying that it was everyone else's fault, and now I see that it was all me, I pushed away and hurt those closest to me, those that I needed and valued in my life, including the woman of my dreams 12 years ago after we got married, and I didn't even realise that a dark hidden side of me was writing emails that I never remember writing which were nasty and clearly designed to make her run away from me, and she tried to get it to work with me, but I was not really in charge, the dark side of me was subconsciously, hurting her when she attempted to come close, and eventually she ended up in the arms of another man, who she is still with to this day, and I had suppressed the memories unknowingly until this day with the narrative I thought was one of her leaving me, when this could not be further from the truth.
Now I am a shell of a man, abused in childhood by my two narcissistic parents, one of which was my alcoholic abusive father who would beat my mother black and blue, all in front of me, and then both would ignore me when I went to show them something or speak to them, or anything that required them giving me attention even for a second.
My childhood was one of trauma, shouted at and insulted for everything or outright ignored.
Therapy helped me realise that this had damaged the way I developed my attachment style, and this would then follow on throughout my life as the years passed, and was why I would stare at the ground alone at lunch time at school, and in high school would throw desks at the teacher in defiance and aggression and rage.
Wrote my first suicide poem at age 11,, and my mother scolded me with anger for disrespecting her for doing so.
As an adult I have lost everything that I loved through the damage that was caused in childhood by my abuse, and then affecting my ability to form any sort of friendships or perform well at school in all stages of my schooling, and then as an adult I found alcohol, which made me feel better temporarily, but caused me to go gradually into an ever descending downward spiral, and now I look back sober for 3 years (yay "you should be proud everyone says", and I just give them a stone cold look, they just don't understand, that my whole life has been trauma and loss, and pain, seeing opportunities slip away due to my NPD, and being unable to take those opportunities because of the NPD, including the woman of my dreams who wanted to love me so much, but my NPD took over and closed her out due to what I now know is it's deep fear of abandonment that my parents caused to maladaptively develop inside me.
Now I look back to my whole past, and see no joy, nothing there except what could have been, painfully and tragically stolen from me, worse than having been in a coma for those years as I can see what I could have had, and what was painfully taken away by NPD caused by my childhood trauma, pain all through my life, pain and loss and misery, all the way up to now where I am almost 40 years old, and seeing the love of my life happy and married to the man that she replaced me with 12 years ago, and more wreckage along the way, so there is nothing to hold onto from my past, just pain I caused others that drove them away, and ultimately as I hurt the ones I loved, the ones closest to me that I needed and wanted in my life, that ultimately hurts me, and the present I feel guilt, shame, anger, frustration, regret, hopelessness hatred of myself and hatred of my parents who betrayed me.
There is no future for me, as I am already dead inside, I died long ago, or maybe I never existed at all, my body a wandering suffeering breathing corpse, wandering the earth in pain and suffering and despair until old age end my suffering? I don't think that is fair on me, it gives me great sadness to have to admit that my entire life was ultimately a failure, even though I tried my best, and endured great suffering, but I must now have the courage to finally admit that enough is enough and it is time, the 11 year old me who decided to see if life gets any better in the coming years, to my 11 year old self from back in 1996 I sadly have to say tom him that it sadly did not get any better, only more pain and misery, tragic heartbreak and loss. I know how he would react, he would nod his head at me that 11 year old me from 1996, and say "I understand, you did your best, but it's time now", it's time to find peace that I could never find in this world, let alone the fact I only ever got teased with grasping any joy, but it was all out of reach due to the NPD caused by childhood abuse that I never asked for and never deserved. To hate myself, yes maybe I do, so I have realised that I am both giving myself the death penalty, and at the same time showing myself the ultimate merciful pathway to peace, not on this earth, but in whatever comes next, even that is total nothingness, as if to be unborn, then that is fine by me, because I can not imagine anything worse than what I have had to endure whilst alive in my life, and indeed it is time to call this fight off, and let me rest in peace, leaving all the traumatic emotions that I could never handle nor make sense of, and even though I was never taught how to have empathy, I will show myself mercy, for that is the least that I deserve, even if I hate myself for all the pain I have caused others, and I am sorry for such, I am so deeply sorry, not least to my 11 year old self who wrote that beautiful suicide poem called "suicide, I'm already dead inside" back in 1996, and that title fits perfectly for how I feel now. There is nothing left for me, and there was nothing here for me to begin with, no sense of self-identity, hollow inside, now it's time for my body to catch up to the soul I never had, the ego which never truly existed as anything other than a fabrication of my NPD, and so as I can not access a dignified death due to people seeing Narcissists as cruel and deserving the pain and misery we get, and as right to die as being overall not seen as something that society needs to do sadly, I will being myself deliverance from this torment in a way which I care not for how undignified and messy it is for those who would find me after I am finally free from this suffering, but a way that will give me the best odds of successfully ending my suffering, carefully and meticulously planned, not in a "crisis" as the mental health lingo says, but in the empty and hollow cold calm of a man who either never lived, or who died many years ago, my final act will be one of great effort and planning, and attention to detail to ensure the best chances of success, as I expect nothing less, from a life of complete and utter failure as a man, at least my final act can be the first and last success of this existence, and then I shall be free.
No more hatred, no more pain, no more anything, finally free.
Wow that's an incredible story. Very tragic as well. I too understand the feeling of looking back through the abyss of time and telling the younger version of yourself that it won't get any better, it never will. It's a horrendous thing to have to tell yourself.
There are some times, like twice a month that I look at myself in the mirror and think "oh hell yeah im hot shit my hair is great im cool" and then three minutes later I feel so so disgusting and horrible and it feels like i mentally fell down ten flights of stairs and landed on nails. it's exhausting me
That's terrible I am very sorry. You are cool to me not that that matters.
I'm convinced I'm the worst person ever, and that dying is the only thing I could ever do to make the world any better. I anxiously await my punishment!
Putin is that you? I don't think you are anything near the worst person ever.
I don't like or love anything associated with existing, existence has been something I've never wished to endure and there's nothing desirable about being burdened with the ability to suffer endlessly. I don't hate myself exactly but rather what I hate is existence itself as it's the ultimate cause of all harm and suffering, existence is repulsive, I hate how I had to endure existence when there should just be nothingness instead.
I completely understand that. Your existence is ultimately, going to be one of endless suffering...
Not really I'm too stupid to do anything
I don't believe that. Hell you made this post that's something!
Neither Love nor Hate. I frustrate myself more than anything else, because I feel slow and unable to respond to the pressures of life.
Explain?
I like some aspects of myself, really hate some others. I truly believe i'm a bad person, always losing people, always hurting everyone by my side. My personality isn't very good, so it's definitely the thing i hate the most and wish I could change it.
I'm sorry to hear that, that must be really difficult.
I absolutely hate myself. I think I am the worst person on the planet. I have a terrible personality
I think you are going to have to fight @@trashprincess for that title.... I don't think you are the worst person on the planet either. Nowhere close.
I hate myself, a lot.
Lately I'm starting to think that's because I'm a stranger to myself; I don't have a true identity, I'm a fake. It's too late for me to change that.
Why don't you have a true identity? Why is it too late?
I love who I'm becoming, but it isn't enough to distract me from the cruel and dull nature of existence.
Explain? Would love to hear about it. And makes sense.
HELLLLLLL NAWHHHHHHHHH lol . Fucking hate this fleshbag waste of space piece of shit
Makes sense I am sorry to hear that.

This is a complicated question. I don't think I hate or love myself to any particular degree. I am certainly finding the life I live difficult and perhaps a lot of it is due to my own behaviour and lack of willpower or ability to make things right. But I also see that those behaviours and lack of power due to things that happened to me in my life and upbringing, as I've always struggled since I was a young child.. can I hate that child? Can I hate my parents who struggled and couldn't help me, or didn't know any better? I don't think I can. I'm just disappointed with the hand I was dealt.
Makes sense it sucks to be dealt a bad hand and being forced to make something of it.
 
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HAL 9000

Heading toward Jupiter
Aug 3, 2023
56
Explain? Would love to hear about it. And makes sense.
I've had two years of Therapy and in that time I worked through most of the issues that caused me to be depressed. However since then it became apparent that existence doesn't have enough to offer that offsets how fundamentally dull it is 90% of the time. Covering the depths of Mankind's cruelty would be superfluous. I'm tired of living the same week over and over to help line the pockets of Oligarchs who are on the verge of destroying such a beautiful Planet. The most important reason is that I'm simply curious as to what lies on the other side.
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
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I've had two years of Therapy and in that time I worked through most of the issues that caused me to be depressed. However since then it became apparent that existence doesn't have enough to offer that offsets how fundamentally dull it is 90% of the time. Covering the depths of Mankind's cruelty would be superfluous. I'm tired of living the same week over and over to help line the pockets of Oligarchs who are on the verge of destroying such a beautiful Planet. The most important reason is that I'm simply curious as to what lies on the other side.
Makes sense. I completely understand. Humans are a pretty terrible species generally speaking. You are right mankind's cruelty knows no bounds. There is a lot, lot of people out for just themselves...
 
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Lavander 230

Lavander 230

Student
Mar 3, 2023
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Even though I have suicidal thoughts and stuff, I'm actually proud to be white and I don't hate myself one bit.
 
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HAL 9000

Heading toward Jupiter
Aug 3, 2023
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I'm also a girl, so you technically have more rights and privileges than me.
I'm Black, Trans and I happen to live in Florida. Nah B, you won this round.
 
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ggetout33

Just stuck here.
Mar 3, 2023
177
When I was 19-21 and pre-meds I hated myself quite a lot. I still don't necessarily like myself and I still struggle with self-loathing but it has been toned down. I don't see anything special about me and I don't believe my genes are good enough to be worth passing down. Sometimes its hard for me to see what others see in me that makes me so special to them.

I hate the world a lot more tbh.
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
1,047
Even though I have suicidal thoughts and stuff, I'm actually proud to be white and I don't hate myself one bit.


I'm also a girl, so you technically have more rights and privileges than me.

I'm Black, Trans and I happen to live in Florida. Nah B, you won this round.

I'm replying too all of these together.... I don't know what is going on. This took a turn.
When I was 19-21 and pre-meds I hated myself quite a lot. I still don't necessarily like myself and I still struggle with self-loathing but it has been toned down. I don't see anything special about me and I don't believe my genes are good enough to be worth passing down. Sometimes its hard for me to see what others see in me that makes me so special to them.

I hate the world a lot more tbh.
Fair assessment. A lot to hate about humanity...
 
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Lavander 230

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Mar 3, 2023
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I'm Black, Trans and I happen to live in Florida. Nah B, you won this round.
Trans have more privileges than women, because even though they are men, they can always pretend to be a girl and even contest in girls olympics ;/
 
HAL 9000

HAL 9000

Heading toward Jupiter
Aug 3, 2023
56
I'm replying too all of these together.... I don't know what is going on. This took a turn.

Fair assessment. A lot to hate about humanity...
I apologize. Just having a little fun. EqgwLxmXMAQqVtH
 
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lopsidedcrawdad1

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284
I hate myself so much. If the best and most kind person Ive ever met is able to hate me, I dont think I really deserve to live.
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
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Trans have more privileges than women, because even though they are men, they can always pretend to be a girl and even contest in girls olympics ;/
I think this broad sweeping generalization that large groups are inherently more oppressed or privileged in the US is harmful to everyone. A someone who is wealthy and transgender is infinitely more privileged then the homeless straight guy. Oppression and privilege in the West is generally on the basis of are you rich or are you poor...
I apologize. Just having a little fun. View attachment 117908

like I said, there's no way this guy was a girl, black or trans. My instincts are almost always correct.

Sometimes.
Makes sense.
I hate myself so much. If the best and most kind person Ive ever met is able to hate me, I dont think I really deserve to live.
I'm not sure what to say. Maybe you overestimate how nice they are.
 
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lavender143once

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I'm definitely not in love with myself. There are more moments I dislike (fucking hate) myself than moments I'm proud to be me. I have a lot of SH tendencies and habits. I don't hate myself for commuting SH, I SH because I hate myself.
 
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