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butterfly88

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Aug 8, 2026
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I've been thinking of taking (9g) two 96 50 mg pill bottles of diphenhyramine (OTC sleep aid) with Fourloko, a sweet, 12%-14% alcoholic beverage and using a plastic bag on my head secured with some stretchy fabric.

I've tried on the plastic bag a few times. It's a large black trash bag. I was hopeful if I put enough air in there I could suffocate myself so gradually that I would gently pass out, but even the most gradual and gentle setup eventually caused the familiar chest tension of the survival response, so I concluded that to avoid thrashing and tearing at the bag I will need more than this.

Nitrogen tank is at this point inaccessible.

So long ago I OD'd on prescriptions in an attempt to ctb, and woke up in the hospital. A nurse there oddly enough said she supports the right to die, and that I'd have far more success with two bottles of OTC sleep aid, and to do it with a plastic bag. I found some evidence that this could work, deaths mentioned in a paper that it was common to combine OTC sleep aid with plastic bags in suicide deaths.

My main hang up here is this: I've made a lot of progress on my quality of life lately, learning to use medicine foods, herbal medicine, a crystal healing necklace, yoga, reiki, meditation, massage, and more, each making life a little better. I recently finished my life project and feel like my purpose in life is finished. But if the method will fail, I really don't want to deal with the hospital, I don't need what this would do to my (I don't know the term for this) life: I would loathe the loss in health. I'm facing eviction with court on Monday and it would be my fourth time homeless. I have a special object associated with finishing my life's purpose: I'm concerned if I failed, and my body were taken to the hospital, I could be separated from my most precious possession with no recourse losing the home. On the other hand, with homelessness there is lack of privacy and this could be my last chance to CTB for a long time and a lot of misery.

Long story short, I just cannot risk a discovered failed attempt.

What statistics I can find vary wildly in how much sleep aid would be required to die, although if sufficient sedation with the plastic bag is all that's required, perhaps it doesn't matter so much.

I strongly believe in the right to die and consider self-deliverance to be the superior death. No matter how long it takes nor the circumstances, this is how I'd like my life to end: with self-agency. The thought makes me quietly proud.

Prior to completing my goal, when I examined my feelings closely as to why I am so unhappy, the feelings were plainly begging that I complete my life's goal purpose. I was not expecting this, I thought I might be happy afterwards, but now my feelings ask only to rest in the peace of death.

I brought up the topic with my brother and my father and neither are so far willing to assist. So far my survival instinct is difficult strong - I once had a pretty decent hanging set up, but sadly wrigled my way out of it. I tried VSED, but after a month and a half and a lot of seizures, the mental effects caused me to forget and eat. Medical assistance looks impossibly inaccessible. I have some interest in figuring out how to get more informal/lay assistance if at all possible to bypass survival drive. I don't really know anyone that could help is the main issue.

Summary: Does my specified method seem like it would work? What's a good way to find suicide/self-determination friendly social contacts? Help/assistance would be wonderful, and furthermore, I would like to make a friend who has respect for self-determination I can be fully honest with in life.

Advice and discussion would be helpful.
 
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Estrella87

Student
Jul 27, 2026
126
For friends / Partners I suggest you to post about you in "make friends thread" and "partner megathread".

For the rest, there is plenty of ressources here, you can just check in the ressource compilation thread.
 
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butterfly88

New Member
Aug 8, 2026
2
I've perused the resource compilation thread. Would you mind linking the "make friends" and "partner" threads? I can't find them.
 
TheWindow047

TheWindow047

Member
May 10, 2026
29
I've been thinking of taking (9g) two 96 50 mg pill bottles of diphenhyramine (OTC sleep aid) with Fourloko, a sweet, 12%-14% alcoholic beverage and using a plastic bag on my head secured with some stretchy fabric.

I've tried on the plastic bag a few times. It's a large black trash bag. I was hopeful if I put enough air in there I could suffocate myself so gradually that I would gently pass out, but even the most gradual and gentle setup eventually caused the familiar chest tension of the survival response, so I concluded that to avoid thrashing and tearing at the bag I will need more than this.

Nitrogen tank is at this point inaccessible.

So long ago I OD'd on prescriptions in an attempt to ctb, and woke up in the hospital. A nurse there oddly enough said she supports the right to die, and that I'd have far more success with two bottles of OTC sleep aid, and to do it with a plastic bag. I found some evidence that this could work, deaths mentioned in a paper that it was common to combine OTC sleep aid with plastic bags in suicide deaths.

My main hang up here is this: I've made a lot of progress on my quality of life lately, learning to use medicine foods, herbal medicine, a crystal healing necklace, yoga, reiki, meditation, massage, and more, each making life a little better. I recently finished my life project and feel like my purpose in life is finished. But if the method will fail, I really don't want to deal with the hospital, I don't need what this would do to my (I don't know the term for this) life: I would loathe the loss in health. I'm facing eviction with court on Monday and it would be my fourth time homeless. I have a special object associated with finishing my life's purpose: I'm concerned if I failed, and my body were taken to the hospital, I could be separated from my most precious possession with no recourse losing the home. On the other hand, with homelessness there is lack of privacy and this could be my last chance to CTB for a long time and a lot of misery.

Long story short, I just cannot risk a discovered failed attempt.

What statistics I can find vary wildly in how much sleep aid would be required to die, although if sufficient sedation with the plastic bag is all that's required, perhaps it doesn't matter so much.

I strongly believe in the right to die and consider self-deliverance to be the superior death. No matter how long it takes nor the circumstances, this is how I'd like my life to end: with self-agency. The thought makes me quietly proud.

Prior to completing my goal, when I examined my feelings closely as to why I am so unhappy, the feelings were plainly begging that I complete my life's goal purpose. I was not expecting this, I thought I might be happy afterwards, but now my feelings ask only to rest in the peace of death.

I brought up the topic with my brother and my father and neither are so far willing to assist. So far my survival instinct is difficult strong - I once had a pretty decent hanging set up, but sadly wrigled my way out of it. I tried VSED, but after a month and a half and a lot of seizures, the mental effects caused me to forget and eat. Medical assistance looks impossibly inaccessible. I have some interest in figuring out how to get more informal/lay assistance if at all possible to bypass survival drive. I don't really know anyone that could help is the main issue.

Summary: Does my specified method seem like it would work? What's a good way to find suicide/self-determination friendly social contacts? Help/assistance would be wonderful, and furthermore, I would like to make a friend who has respect for self-determination I can be fully honest with in life.

Advice and discussion would be helpful.
I don't really know what else you can do to ensure a successful attempt with that method, I also want to try it , the only thing I think might be useful is practicing putting the bag on your head, and timing how long it takes for you to run out of oxygen with it. So that you can see if you can have the bag on already and just fall asleep there. I have these screenshots from
 

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TheBag

Member
Jan 11, 2026
62
This does not sound as a peaceful method at all.... I think you would need a whole bunch of benzodiazepines for sedation.

Here's what AI has to say about this:

Taking too much diphenhydramine affects your brain and body in severe ways:
    • Extreme Agitation: You may feel profound panic, restless terror, and severe anxiety.
    • Terrifying Hallucinations: People often see, hear, or feel things that are not real, leading to intense confusion and delirium.
    • Severe Physical Distress: Symptoms include a dangerously fast heartbeat, extreme dry mouth, blurred vision, and a very high body fever.
    • Dangerous Complications: Severe cases can lead to seizures, irregular heart rhythms, coma, or death.
 
iguazo falls

iguazo falls

Student
May 20, 2026
198
yeah i agree with the post above, swallowing 9gs itself will suck really bad and not be peaceful in anyway and i doubt you would be able to stomach it without puking it up, and once the dph hits whether u get it all in or not (and it could be like 30 mins too) it will be hella dysphoric and won't be condusive to being calm enough to not rip the bag off your head and end up in hospital again with a catheter in you. while its cool the nurse was empathetic, she gave really bad advice. you'll probably see some scary biblical shit too it sucks. i would never reccomend dph recreationally, long term, or for peaceful ctb to anyone.

that aside, im terribly sorry you are being evicted, nobody deserves to be out on the streets.
 

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