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Kay_Philosopher

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Jun 21, 2021
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This is a terrible idea for many reasons. Simplicity. The more moving parts to a method there are, the greater likelihood it will not work or there will be some pretty serious complications along the way.
Oh, what do you mean? What complications and what likelihood of it failing do you percipient?
 
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FireWalkWithMe

Experienced
Jun 18, 2022
221
Oh, what do you mean? What complications and what likelihood of it failing do you percipient?
Too many to count. Not so much failing actually, I am sure if you do something bad enough you can receive the death penalty, but exactly how you reach your day of execution and what you endure within that process will be very far outside your control. I suppose if you're up for that ride knock yourself out, but quite why you would want to surprises me. You mention certainty but there are methods that are pretty damn certain anyway so why go through months or years of complications.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

Student
Jun 21, 2021
152
Too many to count. Not so much failing actually, I am sure if you do something bad enough you can receive the death penalty, but exactly how you reach your day of execution and what you endure within that process will be very far outside your control. I suppose if you're up for that ride knock yourself out, but quite why you would want to surprises me. You mention certainty but there are methods that are pretty damn certain anyway so why go through months or years of complications.
OH, okay. Thanks for your comment. I thought you were going to say that it is outrageous and a dumbfounded decision to expect the death penalty as a foreigner for blasphemy and desecration of the Qu'ran in a public place in an Islamic Shariah promulgated state.
I don't really care about the external factors as long as it ends in death.
What Islamic countries do you think is reliable?
 
codedarchaeologist

codedarchaeologist

everybody ends up where the river meets the sea
Jan 21, 2023
46
Why resort to murder though? Why not just fly to a Shariah Law Islamic country and just commit blasphemy there in front of many people in order to be sentenced to death?
One can also pass out tracts(Pamphlets that denigrate the Prophet and Allah while espousing Christianity) in way that seems "not suicidal" but God-mission oriented. You know?
I'm not sure that would work. Islam is quite chill with Christianity, they recognize Jesus as a prophet, just not as the son of god, and the Bible as a holy book. Probably not an execution-worthy offence.

All in all though, there are no words for how bad this idea is. It would be be painful, messy, slow, you might cause a diplomatic crisis, and you'd probably not even end up dying.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

Student
Jun 21, 2021
152
I'm not sure that would work. Islam is quite chill with Christianity, they recognize Jesus as a prophet, just not as the son of god, and the Bible as a holy book. Probably not an execution-worthy offence.

All in all though, there are no words for how bad this idea is. It would be be painful, messy, slow, you might cause a diplomatic crisis, and you'd probably not even end up dying.
Isn't desecration/burning of the Qu'ran, blaspheming and depicting the Prophet Muhammed and Allah punishable by death?
What makes you think that this would be messy and possibly a failure?
 
codedarchaeologist

codedarchaeologist

everybody ends up where the river meets the sea
Jan 21, 2023
46
Isn't desecration/burning of the Qu'ran, blaspheming and depicting the Prophet Muhammed and Allah punishable by death?
What makes you think that this would be messy and possibly a failure?
I mean, even if the local authorities decided you need to hang, it's kind of a big deal to execute a citizen of a foreign country for something that isn't even a crime where they're from. That's where the "diplomatic crisis" comes in
 
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RUPA

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Oct 19, 2022
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Suicide by cop would sound much more feasible & plausible if it is US
 
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Kay_Philosopher

Student
Jun 21, 2021
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I mean, even if the local authorities decided you need to hang, it's kind of a big deal to execute a citizen of a foreign country for something that isn't even a crime where they're from. That's where the "diplomatic crisis" comes in
Oh, wait, really? What about for crimes such as drug trafficking were they are able to put foreigners to death? I don't see exactly how it could cause a diplomatic crisis if it was deliberate with no room for doubt. Basically an peremptory decision.
Suicide by cop would sound much more feasible & plausible if it is US
How does one commit suicide by cop?
 
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death song

Member
Jan 24, 2023
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Strongly recommend that you move on from this idea. There is just too much that you can't control in the process. There are also many other means to accomplish your goal that are much simpler, cleaner, less painful, and relatively certain to work. It occurs to me that CTB pretty much requires the involvement of the person doing the catching. It would seem that it would be difficult to find a way to have someone commit the act for you. Even taking out a hit on yourself would be risky, awkward and uncertain.
 
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Kay_Philosopher

Student
Jun 21, 2021
152
Strongly recommend that you move on from this idea. There is just too much that you can't control in the process. There are also many other means to accomplish your goal that are much simpler, cleaner, less painful, and relatively certain to work. It occurs to me that CTB pretty much requires the involvement of the person doing the catching. It would seem that it would be difficult to find a way to have someone commit the act for you. Even taking out a hit on yourself would be risky, awkward and uncertain.
May I ask why you don't think it is possible in a country where many extremist repose and radically respond to sacrilege that properly warrants death?
 
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death song

Member
Jan 24, 2023
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May I ask why you don't think it is possible in a country where many extremist repose and radically respond to sacrilege that properly warrants death?
As was stated earlier in the thread, in most of these countries you won't just be shot or beheaded or whatever immediately upon committing an offense. You will most likely be thrown in a horrible jail where You will likely be tortured and hardly given enough food to subsist. You could languish in this type situation for years. If you are a U.S. citizen or some other Western Country or Australia etc. Your government will probably get involved in trying to get You released. You could go through all of this unpleasantness and end up just getting deported back to your country of origin. Even Iran is somewhat sensitive about killing citizens of non Islamic countries. They will probably try to negotiate your exchange for one of their people or something that will benefit them politically or financially.
The point is once You commit the illegal act and are arrested You lose all control over the situation. In the unlikely event that they do execute you, It probably won't be for a fairly lengthy time as they will probably want to conduct some type of "show" trial.
 
etherealgoddess

etherealgoddess

perseverance is inevitable success
Dec 8, 2022
193
I want to post this again to elicit multiple responses for plausible solutions for actualizing this possibility.

Right now, I feel, at this moment, that Islamic countries where blasphemy is punishable by death is possible to be incurred if one passes out Islamic polemical tracts or burning the Qur'an since a foreigner will be abjudicated under the country Islamic state law, correct?

What countries do you all believe this to be reasonably possible? I don't care about ANY other method than the death penalty as it is the most reliable.
There is literally no way that any manipulation or augmentation of this method could possibly alleviate the unnecessary suffering that would be caused. I am truly surprised that you are resorting to such a method, especially as someone who is suicidal. I hope you find peace and love in your current life. <3
 
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Kay_Philosopher

Student
Jun 21, 2021
152
As was stated earlier in the thread, in most of these countries you won't just be shot or beheaded or whatever immediately upon committing an offense. You will most likely be thrown in a horrible jail where You will likely be tortured and hardly given enough food to subsist. You could languish in this type situation for years. If you are a U.S. citizen or some other Western Country or Australia etc. Your government will probably get involved in trying to get You released. You could go through all of this unpleasantness and end up just getting deported back to your country of origin. Even Iran is somewhat sensitive about killing citizens of non Islamic countries. They will probably try to negotiate your exchange for one of their people or something that will benefit them politically or financially.
The point is once You commit the illegal act and are arrested You lose all control over the situation. In the unlikely event that they do execute you, It probably won't be for a fairly lengthy time as they will probably want to conduct some type of "show" trial.
This is from Chat GPT when I asked if it is possible to refuse consular/repersentation services due to due process and fair trial law that is regulated by international law:
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Do you think that one could realistically just plea to guilty under the death penalty for committing an infraction against the draconian blasphemy law?
I apologize as I don't understand your reasoning. Why is it foreigners who transgress drug traffiking laws are put to death in that foreign country laws? Why wouldn't the symmetric relation work here?
There is literally no way that any manipulation or augmentation of this method could possibly alleviate the unnecessary suffering that would be caused. I am truly surprised that you are resorting to such a method, especially as someone who is suicidal. I hope you find peace and love in your current life. <3
I am honestly nonplussed you would say this. Have you seen the reoccurring news on the juncture of mobs being formed or protesting when someone burns the Qu'ran in public? These are also not from just Islamic countries were Muslims act in reprisal responding with a tit for tat by attempting to that the qu'ran burners life. Why wouldn't it work in public in an Islamic country were they are all over?
 
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Bardo

Arcanist
Jan 25, 2023
403
Yeah, imagine if they drag you out into the streets and hammer nails through your testicles, then they split your cock right down the middle leaving it in 2 and that's just the beginning. Next, they'll drill holes in all of your teeth and force feed you sugar for weeks until you're riddled with cavities and left in the throws of unimaginable agony as your mouth radiates the devil himself! Oh, then comes the daily floggings by vinegar coated whips as they lash the repentance out of ye.. just getting creative and being silly, but it could happen i guess highly unlikely.
Have you been talking to my ex? Yowch!
 

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