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I was peacefully scrolling on pinterest and suddenly, this poem pops up

I'm sick of living for others, I'm sick of people making everything about themselves. No one cares about me, ACTUALLY cares.
Most of them are the reason my life is fucking hell. Why am I always the one that has to think about how my actions affect the people around me while no one else even tries to make the effort to listen to me for once? To actually see me? I've done this all my life, the only reason I've been sticking around for so long is because some people here depend on me, I've never been a selfish person, so maybe this is the last big "selfish" thing I have to do, then.

Maybe it wouldn't be that bad if people actually started reflecting on their behaviour after I've left.
Life isn't all about you your life isn't all about you that rope hangs your family too dude I'm so done with reading shit like this I've been so numb the past few days but this?
THIS DEFINITELY MADE ME FEEL SOMETHING I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY RIGHT NOW
 
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drag201

drag201

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Oct 15, 2023
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This poem is selfish in itself. Instead of actually saying something helpful or comforting, it just guilt trips suicidal people into feeling way worse about it. What's the point in living for the sake of family or friends if your own individual life is just constant torment? These same people that would be hurt don't tend to help or listen to suicidal people while alive anyway. Whoever wrote this poem is just ignorant.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Yeah- it makes me angry too. I feel all that shit- it's why I'm still here! That's my choice though. You don't need to rub people's noses in it. They're already aware of it!

Sounds to me like that person did try to commit suicide themselves. (From their second paragraph.) Didn't they think about what it was going to do before they did it?!! What- they only realised afterwards? Sounds like they tried twice too. They obviously weren't feeling the way they are now after the first attempt- or- they wouldn't have made the second and put their family through it again!

Anyhow. You know the way to guarantee death for something? Birth. You've already set in to motion a series of events that will see that living organism wither away and die- quite possibly in pain. And let's be honest- the one thing you're most concerned about is that you don't have to witness it. (To parents- obviously.) But- we'll most likely have to witness your deaths. So- that's just great. We get to mourn for you and then we get to die horribly ourselves. Thanks. Why do people think suicide is more selfish than birth? I know this poem wasn't about that but- it really gets to me. I hate it that we've been conscripted to all this!
 
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painmustend

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Jul 16, 2023
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ughhhh i hated reading this. this is just so mean and guilt tripping. it´s okay to put yourself first, it´s your fucking life. you can´t live just because of the fact how others would feel when you died. i´m also a human with valid emotions and i am ALLOWED to act on them. this poem makes me so angry i can´t. it´s basically saying that your pain and emotions aren´t as relevant as others. why should i suffer my whole life just to keep others at peace (who would also "recover" from my death anyway lol nobody would be broken after i did it)
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

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Sep 24, 2020
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That poem completely disregards the fact that none of us are obligated to continue suffering in this existence that was imposed on us in the first place. The right to die is a human right, it's selfish wanting to force people to suffer in this existence they never even consented to. And if one wants to cease existing on their own terms, it's their personal decision not other people's as after all it's not their existence. And it's like that person forgets we are all just going to die anyway, it's truly a horrible poem.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

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Oct 21, 2023
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I've never understood the whole, "what about your family and loved ones" thing when it comes to suicide. Not everyone has a family or loved ones in their life, not everyone has a loving family and friends, and even those who do have those things shouldn't be obligated to have to continue on with living. How is me deciding to end my own life on my own terms anymore selfish than people deciding to have children?

I bet the Dan gave himself a real good pat on the back after writing this dumpsterfire of a poem. This poem makes that one, "your life isn't a movie so don't end it" quote look sympathetic and impactful by comparison.
 
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lifewasawillowtv

You’re losing me
Nov 12, 2023
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Not the "light at the end of the tunnel" bs. It's so cliche and distasteful. We shouldn't have to live for other people, everyone bangs on about autonomy all the time but it completely goes out of the window when it comes to mental health and having the right to die peacefully on your own terms.
 
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Krokodile

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Nov 18, 2023
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I think Dan Brown is a better writer than a poet. His Deception Point is a fun read at least.
 
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Ashu

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novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
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View attachment 126364

I was peacefully scrolling on pinterest and suddenly, this poem pops up

I'm sick of living for others, I'm sick of people making everything about themselves. No one cares about me, ACTUALLY cares.
Most of them are the reason my life is fucking hell. Why am I always the one that has to think about how my actions affect the people around me while no one else even tries to make the effort to listen to me for once? To actually see me? I've done this all my life, the only reason I've been sticking around for so long is because some people here depend on me, I've never been a selfish person, so maybe this is the last big "selfish" thing I have to do, then.

Maybe it wouldn't be that bad if people actually started reflecting on their behaviour after I've left.
Life isn't all about you your life isn't all about you that rope hangs your family too dude I'm so done with reading shit like this I've been so numb the past few days but this?
THIS DEFINITELY MADE ME FEEL SOMETHING I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY RIGHT NOW
What an ugly soul. No, he doesn't understand, because he wrote this.
I've never understood the whole, "what about your family and loved ones" thing when it comes to suicide. Not everyone has a family or loved ones in their life, not everyone has a loving family and friends,
Someone like this has no concept of how incredibly shitty and empty the lives of most suicides are, and lacks the depth of soul to try to imagine it. Even normtards kill themselves sometimes, and if they fail, they come back no less shallow and ugly than before.
 
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StandardOtter

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Apr 17, 2023
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That poem made me really mad, but not at Dan. I know a lot of us have been in that same headspace, where we feel obligated to live for others, even despite the suffering it causes us. The problem isn't Dan. It's the people sharing the message. Part of why suicidal people don't have a voice is because other people decide whether or not we're heard. They speak through us by making sure only their views are spoken.
 
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SoulofSteel

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Nov 20, 2023
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When my ex left me despite all what I've done I was constantly told that anybody has the right to leave a relationship if they're unhappy whatever their reasons may be. Yet if I want to do that with my own life then "I'm selfish, stupid etc..." even though it's actually only after I've fucking poured my soul out for others only to be repayed with shit. People will literally make your life hell and then chastise you for wanting to call it quits, and 9 times out of 10 it's ONLY to feel good about themselves, not because they actually give a shit.
 
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StandardOtter

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When my ex left me despite all what I've done I was constantly told that anybody has the right to leave a relationship if they're unhappy whatever their reasons may be. Yet if I want to do that with my own life then "I'm selfish, stupid etc..."
This is the perfect analogy.
 
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Slow_Farewell

Slow_Farewell

Warlock
Dec 19, 2023
709
I think Dan Brown is a better writer than a poet. His Deception Point is a fun read at least.
If the poem was written by the same person as the one who wrote the books, i totally agree. I like the plot of Inferno among all his books though, makes sense. it's the one about releasing an infertility vector virus.
 
Krokodile

Krokodile

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Nov 18, 2023
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If the poem was written by the same person as the one who wrote the books, i totally agree. I like the plot of Inferno among all his books though, makes sense. it's the one about releasing an infertility vector virus.
Haven't read that one yet, though I did pick it up at a flea market last summer. I have plenty of books on my reading list though so might be catching the bus before I get to it.
 
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Slow_Farewell

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Dec 19, 2023
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Haven't read that one yet, though I did pick it up at a flea market last summer. I have plenty of books on my reading list though so might be catching the bus before I get to it.
you can always bring it and read it while waiting, though it's going to be a pain if you dont finish it and the CTB is successful.
 
Ashu

Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
726
I think Dan Brown is a better writer than a poet.
I can believe it, because from a literary point of view the poem is garbage, even apart from its content, which reveals a banal, narrow, mean, self-righteous mind.
 
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LaVieEnRose

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Jul 23, 2022
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Really effective poem. I'm sure its brow-beating really achieved its intended purpose.

"life isn't all about you"

Then why is everyone so unwilling to help bear your pain? Why do they tire of your angst? Why do they refuse to entertain talk of your feelings?

"I came through and so can you."

This really highlights how much more dangerous " enlghtened peers" can be compared to the clueless normies. They think because they "made it" that they are specifically entitled to sit on their mountain and rain down judgment and criticism on those of us still in the trenches.

There really is little more arrogant and presumptuous than the "I made it, you should too" way of thinking.

I'm tired of the lack of appreciation of the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't position we find ourselves in.
 
Raindancer

Raindancer

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Nov 4, 2023
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I am not angry at the person who wrote this poem. He has every right to speak his truth and how he feels. I have seen many people who have tried to CTB and did not succeed say they are very grateful to be here. The problem is we don't get to speak with those who are successful. We don't know if they regret it or not, if they found peace or not. I still struggle with this concept of it being selfish, yet it is just as selfish to ask those suffering to such an extent to remain. I do not understand why so very few people cannot comprehend that simple fact. Does it really come down to whose suffering holds more weight? Until you have walked in my shoes and felt my pain there isn't a lot to talk about.
 
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Aim

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Sep 12, 2023
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I was peacefully scrolling on pinterest and suddenly, this poem pops up

I'm sick of living for others, I'm sick of people making everything about themselves. No one cares about me, ACTUALLY cares.
Most of them are the reason my life is fucking hell. Why am I always the one that has to think about how my actions affect the people around me while no one else even tries to make the effort to listen to me for once? To actually see me? I've done this all my life, the only reason I've been sticking around for so long is because some people here depend on me, I've never been a selfish person, so maybe this is the last big "selfish" thing I have to do, then.

Maybe it wouldn't be that bad if people actually started reflecting on their behaviour after I've left.
Life isn't all about you your life isn't all about you that rope hangs your family too dude I'm so done with reading shit like this I've been so numb the past few days but this?
THIS DEFINITELY MADE ME FEEL SOMETHING I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY RIGHT NOW
There is some truth to this, because usually things aren't as black and white. But this is not the right place to post something like this. Besides this is one mans opinions. So who cares.
 
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