Covid

[k75]

Eh it's alright. Like I said, I have other reasons that aren't scientific at all too. I just don't like needles. It's why my diabetes is likely to worsen because I won't buy a glucometer either.

edit: And also I'm sorry that I'm basically part of the problem.

Off the subject, but have you considered a CGM? Best thing ever. I got one, and my control improved drastically.

 

[Endeavour]

People are getting their legs cut off from covid. And then some still die.





If people realized just how bad this was they would grab a vaccination without hesitation.

It doesn't matter how bad it is if the cure is worse than the disease. Posting a pic of 1 person who died doesn't make your case, nor some random doctor regurgitating what the vaccine companies are saying.

The guy I linked to created the vaccine that cures cervical cancer, the first ever cancer vaccine. He is one of the world leading vaccine experts. His views are far more relevant and pertinent than a dr repeating like a parrot what the companies making Billions from this tell her.

It's like trying to prove Einstein is wrong by quoting a physics teacher regurgitating a 3rd grade science book.

In all of the decades they've tried, they have never been able to produce a safe coronavirus vaccine, they don't just cause bad side effects, they can literally cause the disease, and/or cause the disease itself to kill you.

Now in less than 9 months there are supposedly at least 10 of them and they're supposedly all super safe.

They are not safe, it's as simple as that. I don't care how bad covid is or isn't (and there's ample evidence it's nowhere near as bad as is being made out), people should not be taking a vaccine that we don't know the short and especially long term effects of.

But hey, it's a personal choice and I totally respect if you want to have it. But don't try and "prove" to people that it's safe and they all should have it, because nothing could be farther from the truth.

Peace.

 

[k75]

Yes, your health is your choice, but masks don't protect you, they protect other people, you don't have the right to put someone else's life on the line.

I wish more people understood this. My dad has cancer and had surgery the other day. He had to be quarantined and tested to be allowed to have the surgery. In the waiting room at the hospital, there was a couple with their masks pulled down. My parents asked them to wear them properly, because he was so at risk, and they refused, saying it was hard to breathe. The woman then started coughing all over, nobody from the staff said anything, and all my parents could do is try to sit further away. They were treated like the assholes... What the actual hell are people thinking?

In all of the decades they've tried, they have never been able to produce a safe coronavirus vaccine, they don't just cause bad side effects, they can literally cause the disease, and/or cause the disease itself to kill you.

So... Doesn't this mean everyone who wants to CTB via covid should actually run out and get the vaccine ASAP? Win/win!

 

[Meditation guide]

Posting a pic of 1 person who died doesn't make your case,

Should I post a pic of everyone who died? I'm not really trying to make a case but trying to educate anyone who is interested in how bad this disease is. If you don't like it that's ok.
The cure is NOT worse than the disease. Nor is the vaccine. I think people are stupid if they have a chance to take the vaccine and don't. Or just very uninformed.

They are not safe, it's as simple as that.

I'm sorry but they are safe. Three people have had some severe allergic reactions. I hate to see wrong information being spread. That video you posted was obviously made at the beginning of the pandemic when nothing was known about either the virus or the steps to the vaccines that were being worked on because most of the information in it was wrong, based on lack of knowledge about it one year ago.

I'm an overly cautious person about anything like this and that's why I've been informing myself every day about the vaccines. I don't want covid and would do anything possible to avoid getting it, because I know what it can do to someone. Death is the least of it.

 

[Life_and_Death]

@k75 some people do have difficulty breathing and seriously cant wear one, however they should have been more respectful and distanced

 

[k75]

@k75 some people do have difficulty breathing and seriously cant wear one, however they should have been more respectful and distanced

Yes, however I guarantee this woman did not (she indicated she just didn't want to and then claimed uncomfortable breathing as an excuse, not an actual health condition) and also, it was a waiting room with severely immunocompromised people awaiting surgery. There are rules. Masks in this case are mandatory, yet it wasn't enforced.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Yes, however I guarantee this woman did not (she indicated she just didn't want to and then claimed uncomfortable breathing as an excuse, not an actual health condition) and also, it was a waiting room with severely immunocompromised people awaiting surgery. There are rules. Masks in this case are mandatory, yet it wasn't enforced.

also agreed however some people can actually pass out they have so much trouble breathing

 

[issyishere]

why?

is it stupider than blindly getting a VERY rushed vaccine that is making some people have negative side effects?

I'm not saying that no one should get it, quite the opposite in fact, but honestly, unless you are in the high-risk group or are required to get it, then people should wait and see how this plays and then make a decision themselves.

I looked at the statistics it was a 6 in 250k chance to have "anaphylactic reaction" which is just an allergy. You can treat allergies with epenephrine so I think it should be fine. Vaccines all follow the same basic principle mostly, neutered sort of virus that kickstarts your body to create antibodies for the real threat etc.

 

[Ghost2211]

Yes, however I guarantee this woman did not (she indicated she just didn't want to and then claimed uncomfortable breathing as an excuse, not an actual health condition) and also, it was a waiting room with severely immunocompromised people awaiting surgery. There are rules. Masks in this case are mandatory, yet it wasn't enforced.

I can guarantee she was just an asshole that didn't care about other people. I have severe intrinsic asthma, and even a two block walk to the store and get me out of breath and dizzy from lack of oxygen. I still wear a mask during the walk and at the store. The mask makes very little difference with how one is actually breathing and makes no difference as far as blood oxygenation. Yes, it does make the air hot and moist which is less than pleasant, but it does not affect breathing. I'm sorry you had to deal with such a rude selfish person.

 

[k75]

also agreed however some people can actually pass out they have so much trouble breathing

I don't doubt that, and I am sympathetic to those people. Healthy people who are just entitled are what I'm complaining about. Especially when they chose to not respect others. It's easy to tell the difference, and it's a huge problem right now. If you can run around talking on your cell phone or smoking cigarettes without issues, you can wear a mask for a few minutes.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I don't doubt that, and I am sympathetic to those people. Healthy people who are just entitled are what I'm complaining about. Especially when they chose to not respect others. It's easy to tell the difference, and it's a huge problem right now. If you can run around talking on your cell phone or smoking cigarettes without issues, you can wear a mask for a few minutes.

yes.......ok from the beginning.

yes i agree.

If you can run around talking on your cell phone or smoking cigarettes without issues, you can wear a mask for a few minutes.

this one im struggling with. i agree and slightly disagree. i smoke up and it does make my breathing heavier. and when talking fast (which i do sometimes because my brain doesnt know what slow is) then yes my chest hurts and my breathing gets heavier.....ok yeah those are issues, i agree then. (although i think to be fair smoking the cigarette is kind of the problem itself, smokers cough and all that stuff)

 

[Endeavour]

Should I post a pic of everyone who died? I'm not really trying to make a case but trying to educate anyone who is interested in how bad this disease is. If you don't like it that's ok.
The cure is NOT worse than the disease. Nor is the vaccine. I think people are stupid if they have a chance to take the vaccine and don't. Or just very uninformed.

I'm sorry but they are safe. Three people have had some severe allergic reactions. I hate to see wrong information being spread. That video you posted was obviously made at the beginning of the pandemic when nothing was known about either the virus or the steps to the vaccines that were being worked on because most of the information in it was wrong, based on lack of knowledge about it one year ago.

I'm an overly cautious person about anything like this and that's why I've been informing myself every day about the vaccines. I don't want covid and would do anything possible to avoid getting it, because I know what it can do to someone. Death is the least of it.

HOW do you come to the conclusion they are safe?

In decades there has never been a safe one, now the companies making Billions, who are all indemnified against compensation claims tell you they are safe - so you believe them?

Why?

If in decades we couldn't produce ONE - how in less than 9 months do we have TEN that are ALL safe?

It's impossible.

It's like saying we've tried for 100 years with every resource known to man to come up with a cure for cancer, then a new spreadable cancer appears, and presto magico in 9 months there are 10 super safe cures magically appear.

It's ridiculous to even believe it's possible, even more ridiculous to believe they work, and even more ridiculous yet to volunteer to have one injected into you.

At best it will do nothing, at worst it will end up making you seriously ill.

I would say at worst it will kill you, but since this is a suicide board, maybe that would be at best.

 

[Breadbfra]

Do it for me too, I'm immunocompromised! Flu lasts at least 14 days to me

 

[foxdie]

I'm not going to debate people who don't want to get the vaccine. I'm of the opinion that it is safe and I'll be getting if I'm still around but I'm probably last line anyway. I'm also of the opinion that exceptions can and should be made for the vaccine and mask wearing for those who require it due to medical reasons.

However I will just point out one aspect of all this. The virus is out of control in a lot of places and health care services are stretched to the max. It's not only coronavirus you have to worry about. If you get into a car accident or anything at all that requires medical services, you might have to wait in line for treatment because the hospital near you is overloaded. This could lead to any number of unforseen consequences because of this. It's not just people who get the virus who are at risk but everyone who would need to go to the hospital for anything.

If it's so dangerous, why are we giving it to the most vulnerable and health care workers first? If we lost a good chunk of those workers right now we'd be pretty screwed. That would be a pretty bold strategy by these companies imo, shipping out a dangerous and potentially deadly vaccine and giving it to the people on the front line of defense. Just something to consider.

 

[Endeavour]

Yes like why would you give thalidomide to pregnant women knowing it will cause deformities?

They didn't know??

So why are they still selling it to pregnant women in India and the 3rd world now then?

Because money.

The End.

Imagine this: Vaccine company: "We've got this amazing covid vaccine, it'll only cost you £500 Billion Mr Govt".

Mr Govt; "Great! We'll give it to the nurses and doctors"

Vaccine Cie: "Oh Holy Fuck, don't give it to them!"

Mr Govt: "What. Why. What do you mean, why can't we give it to them?"

Vaccine Cie: "Oh, you know. Stuff."

They can hardy say we have this super safe vaccine that we'll sell you for a fortune - but for fucks sake don't give it to anyone important.

 

[Meditation guide]

I have asthma and have the N95 masks and they are hard to breath if I'm doing anything or moving around so I just have to lift up the bottom edge a little sometimes to let in some air so I don't suffocate.

 

[foxdie]

Yes like why would you give thalidomide to pregnant women knowing it will cause deformities?

They didn't know??

So why are they still selling it to pregnant women in India and the 3rd world now then?

Because money.

The End.

Imagine this: Vaccine company: "We've got this amazing covid vaccine, it'll only cost you £500 Billion Mr Govt".

Mr Govt; "Great! We'll give it to the nurses and doctors"

Vaccine Cie: "Oh Holy Fuck, don't give it to them!"

Mr Govt: "What. Why. What do you mean, why can't we give it to them?"

Vaccine Cie: "Oh, you know. Stuff."

They can hardy say we have this super safe vaccine that we'll sell you for a fortune - but for fucks sake don't give it to anyone important.

Medical science has come a long way since the 1950s in the case of thalidomide. I can't speak to it's usage in India because I haven't looked into it but I'd wager a guess there's a bit of nuiance there. And if all their customers are dead or dying, they will see those profits drop rather quickly anyway. Seems like lose-lose situation for them But I don't have access to the government and theses companies back and forth so what do I know. However I see your going to believe what you will. There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise or vice versa. Agree to disagree.

 

[Meditation guide]

They can hardy say we have this super safe vaccine that we'll sell you for a fortune - but for fucks sake don't give it to anyone important.

They gave it to Mike Pense our vice president today and tomorrow Joe Biden gets it.

 

[Endeavour]

Medical science has come a long way since the 1950s in the case of thalidomide. I can't speak to it's usage in India because I haven't looked into it but I'd wager a guess there's a bit of nuiance there. And if all their customers are dead or dying, they will see those profits drop rather quickly anyway. Seems like lose-lose situation for them But I don't have access to the government and theses companies back and forth so what do I know. However I see your going to believe what you will. There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise or vice versa. Agree to disagree.

The companies kept selling it after they knew what it did, because it's the other side of the world and no one cares. And medicine has not come a long way from the 1950's, it's all driven by money, like everything, there hasn't suddenly been a surge of philanthropy sweep through that or any other industry.

They gave it to Mike Pense our vice president today and tomorrow Joe Biden gets it.

How do you know what they're being injected with? It could be saline.

Do you think really they are going to get injected with some brand new vaccine no one knows anything about?

If you do you need a check up from the neck up - these mothers don't give 2 hoots about you or me.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Off the subject, but have you considered a CGM? Best thing ever. I got one, and my control improved drastically.

I'm not comfortable with the idea of something being underneath my skin either. I'm probably not at a rate where I need one yet and if I am at least I've more motivation to die sooner...

 

[k75]

I'm not comfortable with the idea of something being underneath my skin either. I'm probably not at a rate where I need one yet and if I am at least I've more motivation to die sooner...

It isn't under your skin. It has adhesive, like a bandaid. There is a tiny cannula, but it's so thin you almost can't even see it. Definitely can't feel it. And you get to wear it for up to 10 days, so no needle pricks that whole time. It's awesome.

 

[Meditation guide]

Do you think really they are going to get injected with some brand new vaccine no one knows anything about?

Do you know there is a killer disease going around called covid that is killing over 3,000 people a day in the U.S.?
Of course they are getting vaccinated! Don't spread falsehoods please.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Based on what i read you would not want to die from it also your death is likely to be prolonged which is going to drag out the grief for your family as well as cause problems with arranging your funeral

 

[Meditation guide]

Our Vice President gets vaccinated (and no it's not saline)

 

[Nicebuddimtim]

Population control

 

[Sherri]

I want to get the vaccine, but Ive read that a few people died from it. And they found that people who take benzos had that in common. So I will have to wait and see if it's compatible to what I'm taking.

 

[SHThrowAway213]

I feel a bit bad because when I stopped taking my meds, I stopped all of them which included my asthma inhaler, which might of put me at a higher risk.
That, I don't care about.
But I live with my parents.
My Dad already has bad asthma as he vape and he is allergic to my dog, but luckily he has let her stay. My Mum has asthma, diabetes, narcolepsy and hypothyroidism. She usally visits her Mum, who had cancer and have only just recovered and has some health issues I'm not sure about, and she also visits her friend, who has a husband who has terminal leukaemia and is bedridden now.

 

[Meditation guide]

 

[Fragile]

Please, keep posting videos about the most corrupt and lying politicians getting their vaccines, I'm sure that this will convince the people who already don't trust them to get the magic vaccine themselves... you are saving the world!

Honestly, I know that the vaccine is not going to kill most of the people that take it or be harmful to healthy individuals, but showing these videos is just worthless and generates even more distrust in some people, specially with the conflicting information that we are getting non stop.

 

[Meditation guide]

Please, keep posting videos about the most corrupt and lying politicians getting their vaccines,

Ok
I think it's something that might convince some people the vaccines aren't dangerous. I haven't heard any conflicting information except on this thread. I stay informed. I'm aware of all the news that's available about the vaccines. I have nothing better to do in my life than read up on this and I do it for hours every day since this pandemic began.
I have a full time job watching the news basically.