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OnlyTheWind

OnlyTheWind

Serena / Meatball head
Aug 29, 2020
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5 bottles of Barboval should provide the minimum lethal dose of Phenobarbital, which is stated to be 2 grams. One bottle is 25ml, with 17mg Phenobarbital per 1ml. This stuff seems not to be as regulated on the web. For those living in Europe, you might have a much better chance to stockpile. Note, the lethal dose ranges from 2 - 10 grams.

Pros: Cheaper, Sold legally in some countries
Cons: Not a pure substance, need to stockpile a lot to get the desired amount
 
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I can't see the dosage for pills on Ebay. Any idea?
 
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WillSterben

Give me liberty or Give Me Death
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5 bottles of Barboval should provide the minimum lethal dose of Phenobarbital, which is stated to be 2 grams. One bottle is 25ml, with 17mg Phenobarbital per 1ml. This stuff seems not to be as regulated on the web. For those living in Europe, you might have a much better chance to stockpile. Note, the lethal dose ranges from 2 - 10 grams.

Pros: Cheaper, Sold legally in some countries
Cons: Not a pure substance, need to stockpile a lot to get the desired amount

I see it as the great option, because it's so easily sourced from non-flagged non-suspicious EU countries, as opposed to N, which only gets sent from places like Mexico. I don't see having to buy a whole package as a con, that's necessary with N, too, and actually even more expensive. Plus, what does it matter, when one is about to leave this weird plane of existence anyways. Most sources sell it as very small pills, with 100mg each, as opposed to N, which mostly comes in liquid form. I don't know the dosage, or anything, of the Ukraine source mentioned here, and would recommend to go for one of the Western/Central EU vendors anyways, Ukraine is a flagged country.
 
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OnlyTheWind

Serena / Meatball head
Aug 29, 2020
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I can't see the dosage for pills on Ebay. Any idea?
There is 9.8mg Phenobarbital per capsule. I guess they are purposely not lising the ingredients to get around ebays rules. The shelf life of the capsules is also listed as 1.5 years, whereas the liquid is up to 3 years.

I see it as the great option, because it's so easily sourced from non-flagged non-suspicious EU countries, as opposed to N, which only gets sent from places like Mexico. I don't see having to buy a whole package as a con, that's necessary with N, too, and actually even more expensive. Plus, what does it matter, when one is about to leave this weird plane of existence anyways. Most sources sell it as very small pills, with 100mg each, as opposed to N, which mostly comes in liquid form. I don't know the dosage, or anything, of the Ukraine source mentioned here, and would recommend to go for one of the Western/Central EU vendors anyways, Ukraine is a flagged country.
I agree. There is less chance of it being confiscated by customs, and it's intended use is not as obvious. Customs could still confiscate on the basis of quantity, but that can be worked around. Can you pm me a source for the 100mg pills? I've found some Ukraine based sites, but there are different products also containing PB, not stating the amounts.

EDIT: The site I'm browsing also stocks Valocordin, which according to Google - "Overdoses can lead to death or permanent disability, and the FDA has labeled Valocordin a health hazard since July 1997."
 
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There is 9.8mg Phenobarbital per capsule. I guess they are purposely not lising the ingredients to get around ebays rules. The shelf life of the capsules is also listed as 1.5 years, whereas the liquid is up to 3 years.


I agree. There is less chance of it being confiscated by customs, and it's intended use is not as obvious. Customs could still confiscate on the basis of quantity, but that can be worked around. Can you pm me a source for the 100mg pills? I've found some Ukraine based sites, but there are different products also containing PB, not stating the amounts.

EDIT: The site I'm browsing also stocks Valocordin, which according to Google - "Overdoses can lead to death or permanent disability, and the FDA has labeled Valocordin a health hazard since July 1997."
Ok thanks I'll buy both imo
 
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WillSterben

Give me liberty or Give Me Death
Jul 6, 2021
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There is 9.8mg Phenobarbital per capsule. I guess they are purposely not lising the ingredients to get around ebays rules. The shelf life of the capsules is also listed as 1.5 years, whereas the liquid is up to 3 years.


I agree. There is less chance of it being confiscated by customs, and it's intended use is not as obvious. Customs could still confiscate on the basis of quantity, but that can be worked around. Can you pm me a source for the 100mg pills? I've found some Ukraine based sites, but there are different products also containing PB, not stating the amounts.

EDIT: The site I'm browsing also stocks Valocordin, which according to Google - "Overdoses can lead to death or permanent disability, and the FDA has labeled Valocordin a health hazard since July 1997."
I'd love to, but I seem to not be able to write any PMs, or I'm too stupid to find that function. Can you initiate a PM conversation with me please, I'll try to reply. Is there some minimum Post requirement, or what is it?
 

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