Corpse Exposure & Consideration.

[johnny]

Eh, to be honest, if the person is pro-life (and you can bet most people are), I dont give a shit how finding a dead body impacts them. You back someone into a corner and give them no options, this is what happens.

It's good to avoid having loved ones find you, but other than that, who cares.

 

[Arak]

'It's good to avoid having loved ones find you, but other than that, who cares.'

I do. It could be weeks or longer till someone busts a door, I don't want to hurt the feelings of others more than I have to. It's only approprioate that people who care about me learn of my death shortly after it has happened. It's not an absolute need, but preferred.

 

[creationisdeath]

'It's good to avoid having loved ones find you, but other than that, who cares.'

I do. It could be weeks or longer till someone busts a door, I don't want to hurt the feelings of others more than I have to. It's only approprioate that people who care about me learn of my death shortly after it has happened. It's not an absolute need, but preferred.

That's very considerate of you, I wouldn't care. Humanity shall see the fruits of their labor in my opinion. Drowned by media and consumerism most have developed tunnel vision.. that allows them to not care about you at all. Death is something you watch on TV while eating your chicken wings.

@creationisdeath , local situation: they won't won't give me an email address.

Since the cops are this useless in your place I'd seriously make a list of companies where the mail gets sent to. Some that you know will read the mail since they have to (like customer support). Then they can call the cops.

Or since you care about loved ones, maybe send the mail to them. They will know sooner or later anyway, it might even be less traumatizing if you talk "directly" to them instead of them getting some random phone call from police later on. Your call.

 

[NoOneKnows]

anybody knows if it is mandatory to make autopsy in every case of suicide?

 

[Jenna]

anybody knows if it is mandatory to make autopsy in every case of suicide?

I would love to know too.

 

[JustAboutDone]

@Arak would your mail delivery person not be aware of something wrong quite quickly?
Alternatively, are you able to set a very loud alarm clock playing music to go off in your building for a certain time? I suppose it would depend on how thick your walls are and how inquisitive your neighbours are.

 

[Logic]

This is an attempt to get you to consider the potential trauma the sight of your corpse can trigger. There is nothing clean or pleasant about dying, and leaving it up to strangers or loved ones to find you is exceptionally cruel and inconsiderate. It is pretty much the textbook definition of selfish, and I know how you all hate that word on here. If you are engaged in rational suicide you should be controlling the factors surrounding your death, including who finds you. The considerate thing is trying to limit discovery down to frontline services that have to deal with cadavers as part of their job description. Even they can suffer the sights they see, so imagine how much more magnified that is to a potential loved one or a stranger who was just going about their day with no expectation of encountering a corpse in whatever state it manifests.

It is a well-documented fact that exposure to a cadaver can cause post-traumatic stress disorder in people. It can leave people haunted with the sight and smells resurfacing, existing on in nightmares long after the encounter. There are plenty on this site with PTSD, and that hell can be a driver of their own reasons to suicide. So I am sure they would not wish it on anyone else. So don't jeopardise the psyche of others in this way. You have no idea who may potentially find you if you leave it up to chance. You have no idea what their pre-existing associations with death may well be already. The minds of others are potentially fragile. So you have a responsibility to minimise potential harm as much as possible.

Even though hotels have policies surrounding dead guest it is still distressing for the staff to walk in on a contorted body leaking excrement down the side of the bed. Some have quit their jobs over it, too scared to want to open another guest room door because of what may lay on the other side of it.

It is the same for train drivers, some become traumatised from seeing people explode giblets across their windscreen and have to quit as a result.

If your loved ones find you they will be left with that final disturbing image, it will contaminate prior memories and images. It will linger the entire way through any grieving process and never be forgotten decades on. Your suicide is potentially going to cause pain anyway, but you should at least make efforts to minimise the trauma as much as possible. You just don't get the sight of corpses out of your head.

It is far kinder on all concerned to try and die somewhere privately instead of publicly.
You may have given up on life but you still have the choice to be considerate with who you expose your corpse too. If it means you have to set up delayed messages to have the authorities be the ones to find you, you should probably aim to do that. If you can reason out your suicide and its execution I don't see why you can't reason out consideration for others as well.

I wish you peace in whatever form that may take.

I am sorry even in death, you think it's textbook selfish to not put the needs and wishes of others first. I personally think that is ludicrous.

 

[antivita]

I plan to shoot myself in the parking lot of a police station.

 

[Funkbunny]

Having found a young man hanging off the back of a bathroom door when I worked in a hotel, could not agree with you more.

After dealing with closing g the hotel for bookings, the police, the undertaker and trying to make sure my staff were OK, I went outside, sat in the dustbin enclosure, cried screamed cried some more and resigned on the spot.

I know when I die, people will be hurt. There's nothing I can do about that. But, I can do my best to plan. Great post.

 

[989-X]

Consideration doesn't mean shit when no one cares to give that same consideration to you in the first place. Why reciprocate something you don't even receive in the first place?

 

[JWL]

This is an attempt to get you to consider the potential trauma the sight of your corpse can trigger. There is nothing clean or pleasant about dying, and leaving it up to strangers or loved ones to find you is exceptionally cruel and inconsiderate. It is pretty much the textbook definition of selfish, and I know how you all hate that word on here. If you are engaged in rational suicide you should be controlling the factors surrounding your death, including who finds you. The considerate thing is trying to limit discovery down to frontline services that have to deal with cadavers as part of their job description. Even they can suffer the sights they see, so imagine how much more magnified that is to a potential loved one or a stranger who was just going about their day with no expectation of encountering a corpse in whatever state it manifests.

It is a well-documented fact that exposure to a cadaver can cause post-traumatic stress disorder in people. It can leave people haunted with the sight and smells resurfacing, existing on in nightmares long after the encounter. There are plenty on this site with PTSD, and that hell can be a driver of their own reasons to suicide. So I am sure they would not wish it on anyone else. So don't jeopardise the psyche of others in this way. You have no idea who may potentially find you if you leave it up to chance. You have no idea what their pre-existing associations with death may well be already. The minds of others are potentially fragile. So you have a responsibility to minimise potential harm as much as possible.

Even though hotels have policies surrounding dead guest it is still distressing for the staff to walk in on a contorted body leaking excrement down the side of the bed. Some have quit their jobs over it, too scared to want to open another guest room door because of what may lay on the other side of it.

It is the same for train drivers, some become traumatised from seeing people explode giblets across their windscreen and have to quit as a result.

If your loved ones find you they will be left with that final disturbing image, it will contaminate prior memories and images. It will linger the entire way through any grieving process and never be forgotten decades on. Your suicide is potentially going to cause pain anyway, but you should at least make efforts to minimise the trauma as much as possible. You just don't get the sight of corpses out of your head.

It is far kinder on all concerned to try and die somewhere privately instead of publicly.
You may have given up on life but you still have the choice to be considerate with who you expose your corpse too. If it means you have to set up delayed messages to have the authorities be the ones to find you, you should probably aim to do that. If you can reason out your suicide and its execution I don't see why you can't reason out consideration for others as well.

I wish you peace in whatever form that may take.

Brilliant! There is NO excuse for self-indulgent selfishness. If you plan to ctb make a plan that doesn't involve innocent people.

 

[JWL]

I'm already taking a few steps to be considerate, which are the following:
• Ctb in a hotel so my family won't be the ones to find me.
• Ctb in the bathroom so it's easier to clean up any fluids.
• Choosing a non-violent method so it's not all blood and gore.
• Putting up a sign on the bathroom door warning the hotel staff there is a dead body in there.

That's where the considerations end. Yes, I want to be considerate. But the main priority is ending up six feet under (hence my username).

I am uncomfortable with using a delayed email because technical errors can happen. Another concern of mine is if I somehow fail and am not in a state to cancel the email (such as temporary amnesia, being confused, or being very ill). If I somehow fail, I want it to be kept a secret so I can try again. If the police get the message and I failed, I would be thrown into the mental hospital and that would create any more problems. I cannot afford another stay in the psych ward. I cannot afford people irl knowing about this until I'm actually dead.

You're trying. Keep at it...

 

[JWL]

Thanks to this post I'm going to ctb in a hotel didn't think about my poor nan finding my body

I would have thought that should be a pretty major part of your plan...

 

[Welcumtotherealworld]

If a stranger finds you, you'll most likely just end up as a topic at their lunch. People seem to forget that humans evolved seeing dead people for millions of years.

 

[RainAndSadness]

That's why I'm doing it in a hotel. I want to prevent people from being traumatized. I'm also gonna notify the hotel as well as the emergency service with a delayed email, which should arrive in the early morning (I'm gonna ctb the evening before) so they can prepare for my situation and let the emergency service (who are experienced with such cases) handle this. I'm gonna make sure enough time will pass to let the Nembutal do it's work before I'm found. There will be important notes lying around specifying certain wishes after my death. Goodbye notes will be sent via email because that's a personal business between me and the receiver. I'll probably wear diapers but that's more a personal preference. I'd rather not be found lying in my own shit. But I'm trying to prevent as much harm as possible.

 

[JWL]

I assume that my corpse will invoke necrophile lust in the observer.

Only if ya have big knockers..

 

[Logic]

anybody knows if it is mandatory to make autopsy in every case of suicide?

I would love to know too.

It depends on the laws of your country/state, Preforming an autopsy on a death that is clearly a suicide is not always mandatory but often is, due to suicide being an "unatural death". (of course if you die of a drug overdose from suicide they are much more likely to label it accidental and not perform an autopsy although in that case it will offically be labeled as an accidental death rather than a suicide) Depends on situation/circumstances perceived around your death.

 

[Minudah]

Experimenters don't give a shit, lab rats were created just as selfish. I'd love to traumatize those who traumatized me. No one ever gave me any consideration, why should I give them any? I wouldn't be trying to ctb if my life were peaches and cream. Too bad the fact is that people relish seeing the dead bodies of lab rats who killed themselves.

 

[MiserableBastard1995]

I plan to shoot myself in the parking lot of a police station.

Efficient.

 

[Sixfeetunder]

I am sorry even in death, you think it's textbook selfish to not put the needs and wishes of others first. I personally think that is ludicrous.

Agreed. It's fine to be considerate. There's nothing wrong with choosing a non-violent method, booking a hotel so your family isn't the one to find you, etc. But you can't bend over backwards to appease everyone, especially in death. Putting others first to an extreme will result in failing your attempt.

And everyone knows there are deaths and suicides in hotels. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't work at a hotel.

 

[JWL]

And everyone knows there are deaths and suicides in hotels. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't work at a hotel.

Excellent point!!!

Nobody should work anywhere where suiciders might want to express their wish to do what they like and fuck everyone else who innocently gets in the way. WFT nobody buggers around with OUR freedoms, coz we don't give a toss!

 

[Logic]

Excellent point!!!

Nobody should work anywhere where suiciders might want to express their wish to do what they like and fuck everyone else who innocently gets in the way. WFT nobody buggers around with OUR freedoms, coz we don't give a toss!

My brother came out as gay and it really hurt my homophobic parents. Can you believe my brother would do something so messed up? This is the exact same thing as your argument-It is not my problem someone does not respect my choice, that there is a prohibition against suicide. If there wasn't a prohibition against suicide, It certainly would be far better for everyone.

 

[Sixfeetunder]

My brother came out as gay and it really hurt my homophobic parents. Can you believe my brother would do something so messed up? This is the exact same thing as your argument-It is not my problem someone does not respect my choice, that there is a prohibition against suicide. If there wasn't a prohibition against suicide, It certainly would be far better for everyone.

Seriously. If people have such a problem with the way people carry out their suicide, maybe they should start fighting for legal physician assisted suicide for all adults regardless of reason. We won't have this problem anymore. It's silly how we are so over-protected from death. Maybe if people didn't see death as such a problem, it wouldn't be upsetting to find a dead body.

 

[Lets get out]

I'm planning on using drowning method and I'm not worried about what way I look after it, because after all when we are gone, we are not going to worry how we look

 

[JWL]

I'm planning on using drowning method and I'm not worried about what way I look after it, because after all when we are gone, we are not going to worry how we look

I'd look better after being in the sea for a few weeks than I do most mornings, lol....

 

[Hush Sweet Charlotte]

Im testing Mozilla Thunderbird email client with 'Send Later' plugin.

Anyone install Thunderbird and know whether to set it up as IMAP or POP? I use gmail and need to make sure the draft can't be scanned by them while it's waiting to be sent!

It seems like a good option overall.

 

[Jen Erik]

Anyone install Thunderbird and know whether to set it up as IMAP or POP? I use gmail and need to make sure the draft can't be scanned by them while it's waiting to be sent!

I've used it before. It should work with either IMAP or POP. The best way to confirm would be to send a couple test messages to yourself just to be safe.

One way to ensure the message doesn't end up on Gmail's drafts folder on their server is to use the local drafts folder on Thunderbird which won't sync with Gmail.

Something like:

>>you need to store your drafts for the affected account in some other Drafts folder, e.g., the one underneath Local Folders. You can set this preference by going to Tools > Account Settings… or Edit > Account Settings… and viewing the "Copies & Folders" page for the affected account.

Then, when it's time for the message to be sent, it will be moved from the local drafts folder to the outbox and sent.

Something I just found out now reading the manual is that for some reason unknown to the author, iCloud.com and me.com accounts fail to receive messages sent using this plugin.

 

[Hush Sweet Charlotte]

Can't believe that actually worked - thanks Jen Erik! That's a great solution. Your clear and technical input to my general cluelessness is so very much appreciated. I think I'll use this rather than a third party site such as lettermelater as a) it feels like I have more control over it, and b) I'm impressed that it works.

 

[Jen Erik]

Can't believe that actually worked - thanks Jen Erik! That's a great solution. Your clear and technical input to my general cluelessness is so very much appreciated. I think I'll use this rather than a third party site such as lettermelater as a) it feels like I have more control over it, and b) I'm impressed that it works.

I'm glad it worked for you.

Those 3rd party sites, yeah that's how I feel, too; I feel better having all that stuff here on my desktop and not having to rely on some outside thing to maybe fail or something.

Someone on here reported that they had a problem with the service TimeCave where they decided not to ctb and tried to go and unschedule a message that had not been sent and weren't able to do it, so if I remember correctly, the authorities showed up to that user's place as a result.

 

[JadedGray]

I never gave it much thought, in regards to strangers finding me, but now I more than likely will be doing it in the hotel bathroom instead of the bed and leave a note on the door so that the hotel staff don't have to be the ones to find me.