Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[BPDvic]

It's the same thing with drug overdoses, more likely to die on accident than on purpose. As for the house and charcoal it all depends on the person, I'm probably going to rent an average sized single family house and get 16 lbs of charcoal (which is more than enough) but I'm also going to be producing hydrogen cyanide which is 35 times more lethal than carbon monoxide.

How did you get the cyanide?
And why would you use carbon when you have hydrogen cyanide?

 

[Liebestod]

How did you get the cyanide?
And why would you use carbon when you have hydrogen cyanide?

I'm trying to gatekeep how I'm going to produce the cyanide for now, but I want to use both because they have a synergistic effect that make them even more toxic and lethal in an environment.

 

[BrunoDante]

I'm curious: it's frequently suggested here and elsewhere that using a modern vehicle for CO s'cide in an enclosed space or running a hose from the exhaust to the cabin is ineffective due to catalytic converters removing most of the CO. And yet just some quick research reveals people are still dying from CO emissions from modern vehicles, whether deliberately or by accident.

I always assumed the modern wisdom about catalytic converters was correct and yet it seems to be contradicted by quite a few examples.

 

[bellaisdonewithlife]

Charcoal method seems ineffective. Better to use a tank of "calibration" gas of carbon monoxide like Kevorkian used. You can get tanks with 20% carbon monoxide + 80% nitrogen online. Google... "Portable Carbon Monoxide Calibration Gas"

Wait, hold up. Charcoal is not that effective? So it's more effective to buy a tank of 20% carbon monoxide + 80% nitrogen?

 

[BrunoDante]

Can someone please outline the detailed protocol using this calibration gas? Supplies, procedure, etc?

 

[bellaisdonewithlife]

Can someone please outline the detailed protocol using this calibration gas? Supplies, procedure, etc?

Yeah, that's what I was hoping to see too although it seems that in my area the gas tanks aren't available for the public to purchase. It looks like I'll have to stick to charcoal.

 

[BPDvic]

I'm curious: it's frequently suggested here and elsewhere that using a modern vehicle for CO s'cide in an enclosed space or running a hose from the exhaust to the cabin is ineffective due to catalytic converters removing most of the CO. And yet just some quick research reveals people are still dying from CO emissions from modern vehicles, whether deliberately or by accident.

I always assumed the modern wisdom about catalytic converters was correct and yet it seems to be contradicted by quite a few examples.

"Modern cars use filtration systems to trap soot (black carbon) and other pollutants before they leave the tailpipe, primarily to protect public health and meet environmental standards."

 

[BrunoDante]

Yes, I understand that. But I continue to see cases where people are dying from CO derived exhaust from modern vehicles, both deliberately and accidentally.

The common wisdom doesn't quite jibe with what I'm seeing is all. Not sure what to make of it.

 

[BPDvic]

Yes, I understand that. But I continue to see cases where people are dying from CO derived exhaust from modern vehicles, both deliberately and accidentally.

The common wisdom doesn't quite jibe with what I'm seeing is all. Not sure what to make of it.

Sometimes people die from a small forgotten amount of barbecue charcoal inside a tent. It seems simple when it's an accident. But remember: you only hear about the rare cases that make the news, while tens of thousands of people don't die for these reasons.

 

[Liebestod]

Charcoal method seems ineffective. Better to use a tank of "calibration" gas of carbon monoxide like Kevorkian used. You can get tanks with 20% carbon monoxide + 80% nitrogen online. Google... "Portable Carbon Monoxide Calibration Gas"

Does the ppm of the tank matter in this case or does it depend on where you open it or if you connect a mask/exit bag.

 

[InOverMyHead]

Greetings. I've been a lurking member for awhile. I just inherited a 1970 Buick Skylark convertible. I'm not a car guy but I'm guessing it's pre catalytic converter. There isn't much info on ctb this old fashioned way. I know a garage is preferable which I don't have. I do have part ownership in a 24x50 storage unit_ is that too big of an area?

 

[Chronic]

Does the ppm of the tank matter in this case or does it depend on where you open it or if you connect a mask/exit bag.

Yes, you want at least 12,000 ppm. If you Google the phrase I quoted you can find up to 20% which is 200,000 ppm. You need a flow meter too set to 15 lpm and a 550L tank which will supply gas for ~35 minutes at this rate.

 

[isthisthingon]

Greetings. I've been a lurking member for awhile. I just inherited a 1970 Buick Skylark convertible. I'm not a car guy but I'm guessing it's pre catalytic converter. There isn't much info on ctb this old fashioned way. I know a garage is preferable which I don't have. I do have part ownership in a 24x50 storage unit_ is that too big of an area?

Roadtrip!

 

[bdynv]

is burning the charcoal in your garage an option? outdoors is risky as people might see

 

[tourn/ait/ne/nera]

The more I read about this method, the less convinced I am, I already bought a meter though, but I am seeing too many people commenting of their failed attempts. Is there some posts about the logisitics of it with a vehicle ? Like why do people leave it burning ? Chances of things melting ? Logistics of entering, doesn't opening an enclosed space temporarily make the concetration too low now ? I feel like there are so many grey zones ughhh

 

[isthisthingon]

Is anyone else actively planning a carbon monoxide exit? What are your plans?

I have a tent, 2x grills, 2x chimney starter on Wednesday I will drive out to my location and start my camping trip.

This seems like a very good method, but not a ton of activity here. Looking to hear from other like minded members on what your plans are.