Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[SamK]

I also tried the charcoal method. I survived. Maybe not enough charcoal. It was far from pleasant.

May i ask why was not pleasant? thanks (just curious)

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

That would be amazing. What a beautiful way to go.

this is my plan ... between end of december and february i want to go...either partial hanging or carbon but both in a shack .. hopefully there will be snow

 

[Dani Paradox]

May i ask why was not pleasant? thanks (just curious)

More than likely they didn't wait for the smoke to go away before using the charcoal. You have to let it burn for 60-90 minutes, then the smoke stops and it's just CO

 

[SamK]

More than likely they didn't wait for the smoke to go away before using the charcoal. You have to let it burn for 60-90 minutes, then the smoke stops and it's just CO

wow that is great info, thanks dani. So no smoke either? sounds great. I was prepping myself for some smoke. But knowing there will be none.. it just gets better.

 

[Dani Paradox]

wow that is great info, thanks dani. So no smoke either? sounds great. I was prepping myself for some smoke. But knowing there will be none.. it just gets better.

Yas. You just fall asleep. Just let the charcoal burn outside in a chimney burner (so it burns evenly) for 60-90 minutes, until the charcoal turns from black to the color of ash and the smoke dies down. Then dump them into a steel bucket and bring them inside the tent (or wherever else.) The smaller the space the better. I think I might even put my head inside a cardboard box when I fall asleep inside the tent, so that the gas accumulates around my face. I'm making sure to add as many precautions as possible to ensure that I succeed. I'm going to drink while the charcoals are burning down, and once sealed with them in the tent I am going to finish drinking until I pass out. Never to wake up again :)

 

[epil]

May i ask why was not pleasant? thanks (just curious)

I didn't let the charcoal burn first. Literally just lit a bbq in my bedroom whilst drunk then when to bed. A lot of flames and smoke later... I woke up to my bedroom so full of smoke that I couldn't see anything but white. Ended up passed out for about 40 hours. Eventually woke up. Tried to get out of bed but was incredibly disorientated and weak and couldn't use my body properly. Very confused. I've had problems with my lungs, chest, and a burnt arm ever since. That was about a month ago.

 

[bbq1]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/footballer-who-took-life-been-15037692

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/16318519.woman-found-dead-in-car-after-suffering-mystery-pain/

Judy

 

[Mark]

How does a disposable barbecue in a car sound to everyone? Likely to be successful?

 

[EternalSanction]

How does a disposable barbecue in a car sound to everyone? Likely to be successful?

Highly dependant on the mass of charcoal in the bbq kit, you'll most likely need a few of them.
Furthermore the air supply could be a problem, disposable bbqs often don't burn well.

 

[ThereIsNoHope]

I will do this method inside a car. I have to wait the coal burn inside or out of the car?

 

[bbq1]

How does a disposable barbecue in a car sound to everyone? Likely to be successful?

https://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/n...rbecue_in_car_in_Belbroughton__inquest_hears/

Disposables contain approx 500g, usually lumpwood rather than briquettes. They can be hard to get lit properly as all they come with is a sheet of flammable paper on top the charcoal.
This doesn't produce much heat to light it and it smokes a lot at the start.
But, if you sprinkle a few firelighting cubes in with the charcoal first it will help a lot.
Once its smoked away OUTSIDE and got up to full cooking temperature and gone grey and is smouldering after 50 minutes or so, they are as deadly as any other bbq if brought indoors.
The underside gets dam hot so needs placing on a bowl of water or bricks to stop it burning anything under it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/he...le-barbeques-after-sons-accidental-death.html

 

[Dani Paradox]

I am definitely decided on my shed. My father is better off finding a tent with a tarp over it and a warning sign, rather than finding me strangled to death in my closet with a cord. I never thought of it like that. The hazmat and police will be the ones to find and remove my body...not my father. I think that is much better. I will have a warning sign taped on the outside of the tarp, and then another one on the tent that will be visible when the tarp is removed. It is hard to believe that my father would seriously go past both of those signs to open the tent. Even in the heat of the moment, I mean...

 

[bbq1]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2004/oct/13/japan.internationalnews

 

[406blue]

I agree with the thing about burning the coals in one of those cylinders until they are no longer smoking but grey on top with red embers below and then tipping them into a steel bucket and placing it in a tray of water in the back of the car. I saw your post bbq about it getting to 32 degrees in the car. I'm more and more inclined to wait until it gets colder at night to prevent issues with heat causing me to become uncomfortable, despite the meds, bearing in mind that you need perhaps 5 or 6 hours for the effect to take place.

 

[406blue]

As far as I know, my tent is a single skin......I'll have to check if it's waterproof, and read into that thread you said. I'm a bit confused right now.

I think a car is a better option if you can access one. Tent material might allow the gas to escape through the fabric, unless you use one of those emergency tents lined with aluminium designed for mountain survival. I know people have died though co poisoning in tents but as you rightly say, we don't really know what kind of tents they were and their method of fabrication etc. CO requires a sealed space, unless possibly the ppm is high enough, in which case there might be some allowance for the gas escaping a bit. Just my impression. A car with tape over the door joints and vents seems to me a much more reliable scenario, when it's cold and the vehicle isn't going to heat up too much, and you can be sure the benzos and vodka will keep you unconscious for 5 or 6 hours, you have prepared the coals properly so they no longer smoke. Experiment a little, even if you don't have a car.

 

[Dani Paradox]

I think a car is a better option if you can access one. Tent material might allow the gas to escape through the fabric, unless you use one of those emergency tents lined with aluminium designed for mountain survival. I know people have died though co poisoning in tents but as you rightly say, we don't really know what kind of tents they were and their method of fabrication etc. CO requires a sealed space, unless possibly the ppm is high enough, in which case there might be some allowance for the gas escaping a bit. Just my impression. A car with tape over the door joints and vents seems to me a much more reliable scenario, when it's cold and the vehicle isn't going to heat up too much, and you can be sure the benzos and vodka will keep you unconscious for 5 or 6 hours, you have prepared the coals properly so they no longer smoke. Experiment a little, even if you don't have a car.

I will be taping garbage bags all over the outside of the tent to seal it. Plus a tarp over the top. And I will be taping the seams of the tent as well. I don't have a car, unfortunately, but I believe this to be better as it is a sealed and confined space.

 

[406blue]

I will be taping garbage bags all over the outside of the tent to seal it. Plus a tarp over the top. And I will be taping the seams of the tent as well. I don't have a car, unfortunately, but I believe this to be better as it is a sealed and confined space.

I see what you mean. Perhaps an advantage with the car also is that you can just park up and you're ready to go, whereas setting up the tent, taping seams etc takes time and you might be disturbed. No doubt you have taken this into account and have somewhere you can be sure of not being disturbed, you mentioned a shed which sounds good.

 

[Dani Paradox]

I see what you mean. Perhaps an advantage with the car also is that you can just park up and you're ready to go, whereas setting up the tent, taping seams etc takes time and you might be disturbed. No doubt you have taken this into account and have somewhere you can be sure of not being disturbed, you mentioned a shed which sounds good.

Yeah, it's too bad I don't have a car :( I won't be found in my shed for 5-9 hours though. Potentially as long as over 24 hours.

 

[bbq1]

, bearing in mind that you need perhaps 5 or 6 hours for the effect to take place.

Once you put your charcoal in the car the CO will peak in about 30 to 40 mins.
If you get in fast then you've got 30 minutes to live so forget 5 to 6 hours.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Once you put your charcoal in the car the CO will peak in about 30 to 40 mins.
If you get in fast then you've got 30 minutes to live so forget 5 to 6 hours.

I am 99% certain, so I guess I just need reassurance. I am filling the chimney starter, so it should be close to 2 lbs of charcoal. Hopefully a full two lbs. Is it possible for that to not release enough CO in a tent?

 

[bbq1]

I am 99% certain, so I guess I just need reassurance. I am filling the chimney starter, so it should be close to 2 lbs of charcoal. Hopefully a full two lbs. Is it possible for that to not release enough CO in a tent?

Once its really blasted and red, tip it into a tray or bucket and let it mellow out and relax for a while, it'll stop being so hot once its out the chimney. Grey and calm. Good.
It'll work, it can't not do. It's science. And the good thing is it'll keep giving off co for many hours, 5 to12.
It's the death method that keeps on giving even after you're long dead and don't require anymore. No other method I know of keeps doing that.

 

[Dani Paradox]

Once its really blasted and red, tip it into a tray or bucket and let it mellow out and relax for a while, it'll stop being so hot once its out the chimney. Grey and calm. Good.
It'll work, it can't not do. It's science. And the good thing is it'll keep giving off co for many hours, 5 to12.
It's the death method that keeps on giving even after you're long dead and don't require anymore. No other method I know of keeps doing that.

Do you think it is necessary to load the chimney starter a second time and use twice as much charcoal?

 

[bbq1]

No. The Australian charcoal maths explanation showed 629 grams of charcoal was lethal in a 100m3 room.
A tent is less than 5m3 and 2lbs of charcoal is 907g so your already using about 60x that ratio.

 

[Lena]

A fool would.

Hello sorry this is so random but I don't know how to dm people. Can you tell me how so we can communicate?

 

[Arak]

Nausea and other symptoms seem to trigger the survival instinct too often. Suggestions ?

 

[Dani Paradox]

Nausea and other symptoms seem to trigger the survival instinct too often. Suggestions ?

From CO?? Just drink or take pills right off the bat so you can sleep when you get in the tent.

 

[Arak]

Sedation by GABAergic drugs ? Possibly with exception of barbs, due to prescription drugs i have received I doubt that woudl work ... I also doubt I'd be able to tolerate much alcohol.

 

[Lovemykids]

does it make difference if its during winter? I guess burning the charcoal and with cold weather

 

[weedoge]

Nausea and other symptoms seem to trigger the survival instinct too often. Suggestions ?

Are you speaking from experience or not? I don't know about you but I can handle nausea and another thing I've heard of far more successes than failures. I've never ever heard of someone noticing the effects that carbon monoxide was having on them awake and thus responded. It seems to me that nausea in this case is more likely to be anxiety induced by knowing what you're doing. People who face survival instinct with such a method as CO, inert gas or overdose clearly have some peace to make with something or some thoughts to work through.

Even the member from here who succeeded simply left a post saying "I think I'm dying now" and didn't complain of an nausea etc. CO is called the silent killer for a reason and I truly believe survival instinct in this case is much more of a mental thing than a physiological reaction to the CO. If this were the case I think inert gas would invoke the same response. Sedatives help but certainly aren't required. With the lengthy setup I think anxiety rather than strong survival instinct is to be expected, but I can only speak from personal experience.

does it make difference if its during winter? I guess burning the charcoal and with cold weather

I don't think it would really affect the burning if you start with a chimney burner to assure proper lighting. I've been waiting on something and found it quite convenient that the weather is getting cooler, since you need to have hot coals in a very small space the colder weather may even be better as it'll be a more comfortable temperature in your location of choice.

Good luck both of you

 

[DreamFreedom]

V curious about this method. Does anyone know if 1kg of lumpwood charcoal in a 6x8 garden shed is sufficient? Also some people saying hours, I've read elsewhere It can take minutes. Does anyone actually know the time it would take?