Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[KQuotientW]

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire?

I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room.

I will be lighting the charcoal outside, until it stops producing smoke, then bring it inside. The charcoal will then be white and glowing, giving off carbon monoxide.

 

[Himalayan]

This might be stupid, but anyone know if drawing chorcoal materials would work?
Or is it somehow not toxic?

Ps: i already tried to do some research on this, but couldn't find anything. Most sources don't assume people are trying CBT, idk why.

 

[KQuotientW]

I've tried resizing the photo so it's not too big. Not a lot of success.

Anyway, here's test 2. Seems to have worked this time. Still giving off heat, is white and glowing, 2 hours later. Smoke stopped within about 35 minutes of me lighting it. Glad it worked this time. I have 9 kgs to light, because I want to be sure, and I have calculated the cubic metres, room size. I have something big enough to house that much charcoal.

I don't recommend synthetic firelighters because they stink... badly. I live off grid and use a woodstove. I don't normally use synthetic firelighters for the reason that they stink and, well, I can light a fire without them.

There are a lot of video's on YouTube on how to light charcoal without a chimney starter (that metal thing with a handle). Some suggest paper coated in cooking oil, which seems to work just fine. Spray cooking oil or liquid in a bottle. In today's test, however, I used kindling because I live in the bush and have an ample supply.

Remember, light outdoors and bring indoors when the smoke has stopped. Don't place receptacle directly on a wooden, synthetic / vinyl (linoleum) or carpeted floor as it still gives off a lot of heat. You'll likely start a house / building fire, which is not what we're going for.

Thankfully, I have solid concrete floor with no covering. Aside from smallness of room size, I wonder if people often choose a bathroom because of the type of flooring, which is usually non flammable. Easier to seal off too because they generally don't have enormous windows.

I tried to get a kettle BBQ but can't source one at present. The whole supply chain thing and I'm in a rural area.

 

[ifeelsobad]

I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room.

I will be lighting the charcoal outside, until it stops producing smoke, then bring it inside. The charcoal will then be white and glowing, giving off carbon monoxide.

Ok maybe this might be something I can do. Can I message you please? I have a few questions

 

[Sad_Sack]

How much coal is required? I f I had a small 2 person tent would one chimney starter filled be enough?

 

[sevenkarmas]

I'm interested in making it look like an accident. Has anyone used a portable propane heater? I was looking at a camping heater that runs on propane. I just don't want to fail. My plan was to go camping with the heater in the tent.

 

[sunburst]

Hi. Cant I just leave ambers in starter chimney. And when its ready put it in a seald car?

 

[PressEnterToExit]

Hi guys do you think mixing 2,5L of formic acid + 2.5L of sulfuric acid could be enough to fill a small bathroom with carbon monoxide?

 

[boristafar]

CO Murder Suicide

Inverness father poisoned children with carbon monoxide, killing 10-year-old son: police

Before the bodies were discovered, the mother told investigators that the father had not returned the children at the scheduled time after visitation.

abc7chicago.com

 

[boristafar]

Beware revealing graphic details of charcoal suicides, media is warned

FOLLOWING a significant number of recent charcoal-burning suicides in Thailand, the Public Health Ministry’s Mental Health Department is urging the media to avoid giving too many details of how the deaths occurred, out of fear that such reports could lead to copycat deaths.

www.nationthailand.com

 

[Wunderkind]

Извините, если я повторяюсь. Может ли этот метод работать в автомобиле с портативной газовой горелкой для кемпинга?

 

[Notforlong]

So I'm buying 10 of those instant charcoal bbqs, a portable carbon monoxide reader, and a tent. I'll light them all off outside, and wait until they stop burning and emitting smoke before putting them in the tent. 10,000ppm is what I'm aiming for, right? I have a huge disposal of potent benzos as well, I plan to take a few to ease the anxiety. I'm also setting my phone up to send a mass text with my location 24 hours later and possibly a goodbye. Besides sealing up the tent really well and making sure it has a switched floor, am I missing anything? I really need to make this work, I can also purchase some strong nitazenes to mix with the benzos just to be absolutely sure, but I'm not sure if that's necessary.

 

[Life interrupted]

So I'm buying 10 of those instant charcoal bbqs, a portable carbon monoxide reader, and a tent. I'll light them all off outside, and wait until they stop burning and emitting smoke before putting them in the tent. 10,000ppm is what I'm aiming for, right? I have a huge disposal of potent benzos as well, I plan to take a few to ease the anxiety. I'm also setting my phone up to send a mass text with my location 24 hours later and possibly a goodbye. Besides sealing up the tent really well and making sure it has a switched floor, am I missing anything? I really need to make this work, I can also purchase some strong nitazenes to mix with the benzos just to be absolutely sure, but I'm not sure if that's necessary.

Are you sure you can fit 10 bbqs in the tent?

 

[Notforlong]

Are you sure you can fit 10 bbqs in the tent?

Yes, they're those small instant charcoal bbqs, they look like the one seen here.

 

[Wunderkind]

Tell me, what options are there besides coal for use in a car?

 

[softline]

I found this item at my local welding supply shop.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/attachments/welding-hood-png.102976/

It seems too take most of the work and guess work out of this method. If you combine with bottled gas. There is not need for car/room/tent sealing and fire danger from burning charcoal is eliminated.

The item is generally available on places like Amazon. Sometimes it comes in at kit that pretty much has everything (hoses, connectors,etc.) but the gas. Seems simple to operate: Connect the gas, put on the hood, turn on the gas, your done.

The official name of this if your searching for info is "Continuous Flow Supplied Air Respirator".

Interested in opinions of others

 

[Corliz]

Tonight I light the charcoal

 

[Life interrupted]

Tonight I light the charcoal

Any updates?

 

[Corliz]

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I'm hoping I jus pass out sans horrible headaches an such. Couldn't by sleeping

 

[PaChOnCiTo]

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I'm hoping I jus pass out sans horrible headaches an such. Couldn't by sleeping

Good setup! It might be too late to say this, but I wish you a blissful goodbye.

 

[Mthom2]

Quick portable generator question. Most of the ones I've found are CARB and EPA compliant. Does that mean they do not produce CO?

Actually, I just found some information on CARB compliance, and it does include limiting CO emissions. I wonder if it completely removes the CO produced, or just limits it.

 

[Cat-soul]

wow, literalmente al ver este mega-hilo desde el principio puedes encontrar toda la información requerida. ¡¡¡Muchísimas gracias!!!. por cierto creo que soy el unico que se dio cuenta que este hilo empieza en el 2018 y probablemente los primeros que comentaron ya no esten entre nosotros, sabes...?

 

[sevenkarmas]

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I'm hoping I jus pass out sans horrible headaches an such. Couldn't by sleeping

Did you have any heat/burn issues for the area around your grill?

 

[softline]

I found this item at my local welding supply shop.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/attachments/welding-hood-png.102976/

It seems too take most of the work and guess work out of this method. If you combine with bottled gas. There is not need for car/room/tent sealing and fire danger from burning charcoal is eliminated.

The item is generally available on places like Amazon. Sometimes it comes in at kit that pretty much has everything (hoses, connectors,etc.) but the gas. Seems simple to operate: Connect the gas, put on the hood, turn on the gas, your done.

The official name of this if your searching for info is "Continuous Flow Supplied Air Respirator".

Interested in opinions of others

This was posted to wrong thread. It belongs in the Inert Gas thread. Sorry

 

[jolongone]

Are the acids easy to obtain in Australia? Or am I just gonna have to charcoal grill Mmm?

Hi, don't know anything about acids but it's comforting to see another Aussie on here

 

[loveechoes]

Quick portable generator question. Most of the ones I've found are CARB and EPA compliant. Does that mean they do not produce CO?

Actually, I just found some information on CARB compliance, and it does include limiting CO emissions. I wonder if it completely removes the CO produced, or just limits it.

Loved for this to be answered too. Thought about this method a lot. I can't imagine it doesn't product any co, just likely limited. I'm tempted to just do it

 

[FlameWhisperer]

I am still researching on the possibilities I have for CTB, and this one sounds like a nice option to have. I am thinking on building a GULPS myself, but I have some questions.

1) I see, in this thread, and some others, a lot of concerns about the close space used to CTB using this method. Is the place relevant if I am using a GULPS, since it relies on me breathing the gas using a mask? If yes, why?

2) PPH speaks about using a CO gauge, but I don't know anything about it. How am I supposed to use it if I go with a GULPS, in order to assess if I am managing the required 12,800ppm as shown on the table (if it is even possible to manage that in the first place using a GULPS) I am saying 12,800ppm as it is the one that is described to allow a successful CTB within 1-3 minutes.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Remus88]

Hi first time poster. Would like others opinion on whether they think this would work. 8 chimney starters with weber briquettes in 4 buckets managed to get it to 8200 ppm which it maintained for the whole 6 hour test!!!

 

[Mordrea]

Did you have any heat/burn issues for the area around your grill?

Can't tell what it is, but it looks like they had some type of board protecting the back of the seat and under the grill.

Hi first time poster. Would like others opinion on whether they think this would work. 8 chimney starters with weber briquettes in 4 buckets managed to get it to 8200 ppm which it maintained for the whole 6 hour test!!! View attachment 106480View attachment 106481View attachment 106482

8?! Well you just dashed my hopes. I only have one chimney starter. :)

 

[Mordrea]

Hi first time poster. Would like others opinion on whether they think this would work. 8 chimney starters with weber briquettes in 4 buckets managed to get it to 8200 ppm which it maintained for the whole 6 hour test!!! View attachment 106480View attachment 106481View attachment 106482

I think it will definitely work. I found this on the internet.

Symptoms Associated With a Given Concentration of CO Over Time

PPM CO	Time	Symptoms
35	8 hours	Maximum exposure allowed by OSHA in the workplace over an eight hour period.
200	2-3 hours	Mild headache, fatigue, nausea and dizziness.
400	1-2 hours	Serious headache-other symptoms intensify. Life threatening after 3 hours.
800	45 minutes	Dizziness, nausea and convulsions. Unconscious within 2 hours. Death within 2-3 hours.
1600	20 minutes	Headache, dizziness and nausea. Death within 1 hour.
3200	5-10 minutes	Headache, dizziness and nausea. Death within 1 hour.
6400	1-2 minutes	Headache, dizziness and nausea. Death within 25-30 minutes.
12,800	1-3 minutes	Death