Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[wanttodie.nz]

Did you try a car?

 

[justanotherday]

My car was a 1980 and it emitted plenty of lethal levels of carbon mon. to take me on out of this world. However, I was found, so here I am stuck on this crazy planet.

 

[justexisting14]

Hey guys. Not sure if someone clarified this but what about in a apartment? I live on the 3rd floor an I have a small fire place. Should I just put charcoal in light it and close the gates to the fire place? And then just lay near by?

 

[cappuccinogirl]

Also would def recommend proper heat gloves to carry it. Oven gloves not enough.
When I tested levels a couple of hours after lighting was only c250 ppm. I thought the carbon M was supposed to last quite a while. Used heat beads briquettes. Got better levels from one disposable charcoal bbq before, but ppl on here have recommended briquettes. ... Anyone done any tests with levels? Fed up with these technical difficulties.

Weber briquettes seem a lot better

 

[Vienrose]

Is normal if the briquette are too red? Like, are glowing too much.

 

[DeepSleep]

Just got back from the testrun.
My chimney starter holds approx 1kg of coal. Never used it before.
They go red hot in 10 mins at the bottom. After 20 mins they start to crumble down slowly. There's practically no white smoke, just a lot of heat, but I was doing it outdoors. After 40 mins they have reduced by 1/3 in volume and I've poured it into a grillbox and spread out evenly. Within a minute they've turned ashy white.
From now on I wouldn't be worried about heat and smoke if I was doing it in a closed compartment (like 9-10 sq.m room) but no idea if they would produce enough CO.
Without a meter it's nothing but a wild guess... :(

 

[cappuccinogirl]

Also would def recommend proper heat gloves to carry it. Oven gloves not enough.
When I tested levels a couple of hours after lighting was only c250 ppm. I thought the carbon M was supposed to last quite a while. Used heat beads briquettes. Got better levels from one disposable charcoal bbq before, but ppl on here have recommended briquettes. ... Anyone done any tests with levels? Fed up with these technical difficulties.

Hi anyone know roughly how long charcoaL ./ briquettes release high enough levels for? By the time it's cool enough to bring in doesn't seem to leave much time before levels start dropping. Only got 1000 meter. Worrying to bring in when still so hot. Wasn't aiming to die in fire. Then youre supposed to leave to build up for half hour. The levels I've got from test runs have varied. Ill try and go back through thread some to see if any info before. Thanks

 

[cappuccinogirl]

i have tested this method in my 10m3 small room and i measured the CO concentration with my testo 317-3 (max1999ppm) i used around 1 kg charcoal (7pieces Briquetts the rest simple charcoal) i lighting it in a grill - dont have used a chimney starter. The CO concentration in the room was 500 after 6m, 1100 after 12m and finally max 1999 after 19-20m then i break off the test but the charcoal burned around 1h+ after the test in my balcony. i think if i continue the test to the end the ppm woulb be 7000+ ?

Hi can I ask did you stay in the room when you tested it. ? If I just go in the room for a few minutes to test reading not often showing very high but if I leave it in there it can go to max. Hope that makes sense. Thanks x

 

[Yaalya]

I went into the room every time to measure, I always stopped my breath.
in my last attempt three months ago (which was much voluminous) I always went into the room for a short time but after a while I was poisoned because I can not hold my breath long enough, judging by the symptoms about ~ 20% CoHb ,
I also always opened the window for 10 minutes when 1999ppm reached to see how fast again 1999ppm would be achieved.


I will soon get a 10000 ppm measuring device, but I have to think about how I can measure without danger at high values in the room (6000+)
maybe I'll make a breath mask out of a plastic bag or I'll make a live recording of the room.

 

[Vienrose]

If i do this without test?

 

[DeepSleep]

I went into the room every time to measure, I always stopped my breath.
in my last attempt three months ago (which was much voluminous) I always went into the room for a short time but after a while I was poisoned because I can not hold my breath long enough

How did you feel it? Upon breathing in, did you get instantly nauseaus? Lightheaded?

Is normal if the briquette are too red? Like, are glowing too much.

Spread them on the surface and wait... they die out pretty quickly

 

[melanar]

This might be the method i'll use to CTB.
Using my car, a small toyota aygo,
I bought the briggets from Webber, the chimney and waiting for the 1000ppm tester and bucket to arrive.

Will do a trial run with the test on my yet-to-find spot and check how long does it take to reach above 1000ppm.
My car doesnt have a closed venting circuit but i can tape the inlets with tape and aluminium foil. By what i saw, its not exactly necessary to duct-tape the doors but i might do it in the windows.
Thinking on buying a CPR mask as well and hook a tube from it to the dashboard vent, isolating it so i can stay inside the car and breathe normally instead of waiting 20 minutes outside.
I can't have my hands on any prescription drugs, so my only friend will be alchool.

With a bit of luck i can achieve high PPM on that small car. It's about 20ºc at night. I have no idea if using 1.5kg (what the chimney holds) will make the car too hot but i will have to test and endure.
My biggest issue now is the place to do it. We have a lot of pastures but i'm afraid to be spotted making a chimney fire at night.

 

[cappuccinogirl]

Thanks for that. Safest way breathing mask I should imagine. Inexpensive on amazon but no idea if they protect from c monoxide.

I went into the room every time to measure, I always stopped my breath.
in my last attempt three months ago (which was much voluminous) I always went into the room for a short time but after a while I was poisoned because I can not hold my breath long enough, judging by the symptoms about ~ 20% CoHb ,
I also always opened the window for 10 minutes when 1999ppm reached to see how fast again 1999ppm would be achieved.


I will soon get a 10000 ppm measuring device, but I have to think about how I can measure without danger at high values in the room (6000+)
maybe I'll make a breath mask out of a plastic bag or I'll make a live recording of the room.

 

[melanar]

I just got my hands in Alprazolam 0.5mg 60 tablets.
Is this the generic of Xanax?
Hoe much would i need to take to be out qith the charcoal in my car?

 

[Cleopatra123]

You think a portable generator alone in a car will be quick for CO?

What kind of generator do you mean?

 

[Lookingforabus]

What kind of generator do you mean?

It's something that generates electricity by burning fuel (such as gasoline or kerosene).

 

[Cleopatra123]

It's something that generates electricity by burning fuel (such as gasoline or kerosene).

Sounds dangerous for a closet, thank you.

 

[Anje]

Then

Formic acid is not illegal - it's used by beekeepers, and for all sorts of other purposes. Nobody ever asked me what I wanted it for.
Sulphuric acid is battery acid. It's also used to influence the PH level of swimming pools.
I don't know any country in which these products are impossible to get.
Private situations will of course differ.


Yes, if you handle them well, they would.
You should in any case insulate the car, cars are not at all airtight. Simulate a space ship.
Worst are the doors, you can easily insulate them by using foils - I can make another photo if necessary.
Insulation will give you the advantage that you can, in case the PPM level is insufficient to kill you in a few seconds, simply go to sleep and never realize that you die after maybe 20 minutes, at a PPM level of just 1600.
One of the typical car problems is that the CO escapes before that happens, because no insulation is used

Then how do some people succeed with very little charcoal not just one but 2 peole in same car? They didnt insulate their cars

 

[Anon]

Guys about generators on petrol. I rented one and i was trying ctb in forest. Unlucky i cannot turn it on because im too weak (starter cord engine). This guy in shop turn it on after i gave it back to them so gen was working. Its advice for really weak mens like me and womens here.
Sry for english.

 

[John Smith]

To help some people, I did a test with a portable generator, Generac 2000 watt. I have a crew cab pick up, approx 6.2 m cubed in volume on the interior. I did not tape my doors or air vents. Started the generator and put in the truck with a TPI 707 CO meter. Within 15 minutes the CO went up to 3000, at 30 minutes it hit 7500, and made it to 9600 at 40 minutes. The generators started to slow down as the oxygen was being depleted.

Can you maybe be more specific about the generator you used? Most generators don't produce much co

 

[account676]

Why do people use charcoal instead of regular coal? Is there any difference at all?

 

[p7o7p7e]

Hi there so i'm planning to do this method by running a generator in my car and taping all the vents and whatnot shut. My question is if this generator will work? It's the honda eu3000i, it's 3000 watts & 120v. Just wondering if it'll work because I only really have about 2 hours to do this when I am planning too and some people are saying you should run certain generators for a period of time beforehand and i'm just wondering exactly what I should be doing, thanks all.

 

[Notliving]

Hello. I'm new. And thinking of using this method. Since there's some guidelines on gas generators like EPA and CARB, will purchasing one with a higher voltage work better and guarantee a higher carbon monoxide?

I just purchased one that was 900v but since I had to use oil and gas for it to work I'm returning it.

 

[a.h]

Hello. I'm new. And thinking of using this method. Since there's some guidelines on gas generators like EPA and CARB, will purchasing one with a higher voltage work better and guarantee a higher carbon monoxide?

I just purchased one that was 900v but since I had to use oil and gas for it to work I'm returning it.

Portable electricity generators (sometimes called aggregators) which work with oil (it consumes little of it) and gasoline creates lots of CO. All gasoline working machinery (leafblowers etc.) does but not as much as generators.

I would assume that more power means it might create it little more. I have read that portable generators exhaust air has 50000ppm CO in it. Some might have little more or less?

I haven't read that any of them had converters yet. At least in Europe they don't. But I don't know what they sell in the USA. You could ask others here which model is fine.

In Peacefull Pill book advice is to get the level to 10 000ppm (for 100% sure and 100% fast and painless way) and do test run with CO meter first.

If you write few messages more you can use pm (personal messages).

 

[Darkdreamer001]

"Powdered zinc can be mixed with calcium carbonate and heated to produce carbon monoxide." (PPeH)
This could be interesting for some of us, because some of us will find it alot easier to get those ingredients then sulfuric acid and this should be significantly more predictable then charcoal. This can simply be done with a hotplate on a timer in your bathroom.

Where do I purchase the powder zinc and calcium carbonate and is there anything else I need and how do I properly set everything up?

Weber briquettes seem a lot better

Were would can i get these Weber briquettes? Would regular briquettes work that use to cook on the grill work?

 

[Cleopatra123]

"Powdered zinc can be mixed with calcium carbonate and heated to produce carbon monoxide." (PPeH)
This could be interesting for some of us, because some of us will find it alot easier to get those ingredients then sulfuric acid and this should be significantly more predictable then charcoal. This can simply be done with a hotplate on a timer in your bathroom.

Where do I purchase the powder zinc and calcium carbonate and is there anything else I need and how do I properly set everything up?

Were would can i get these Weber briquettes? Would regular briquettes work that use to cook on the grill work?

Would like to know more about the zinc and calcium: where to secure them; amounts to be mixed, amount needed for sure results, cooking time and time to secure completion. Thanks.

 

[a.h]

Can you maybe be more specific about the generator you used? Most generators don't produce much co

What??? Do generators have converters in USA already?
Last year in American news it said in few years some models made in USA could have converters.
In Europe they all produce about 50000ppm CO in it's exhaust air. You can ask the seller if generators have converters before buying (it's safety issue and it could smell less so it's normal thing to ask)
Stanley is American but it's portable generators don't have converter. I'm not sure if they are made in USA though.

Carbon monoxide poisoning - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

35 ppm (0.0035%), (0.035‰)	Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%), (0.1‰)	Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%), (0.2‰)	Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%), (0.4‰)	Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%), (0.8‰)	Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%), (1.6‰)	Headache, increased heart rate, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%), (3.2‰)	Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%), (6.4‰)	Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%), (12.8‰)	Unconsciousness after 2–3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.

I think that people loose consciousness or fall in sleep and then are knocked out fast in other 2 high levels too. I read in euthanasia site that with 10000ppm unconsciousness in 1-2 breaths and 1-3 min to die.

It's weird how it's not said with the carts that many die without any symptoms every year. Family members have died in same house to CO where others were fine and in car while one adult is shoveling snow etc. If they had symptoms they would open the door in car and everyone would complain and tell others.

 

[Darkdreamer001]

Portable electricity generators (sometimes called aggregators) which work with oil (it consumes little of it) and gasoline creates lots of CO. All gasoline working machinery (leafblowers etc.) does but not as much as generators.

I would assume that more power means it might create it little more. I have read that portable generators exhaust air has 50000ppm CO in it. Some might have little more or less?

I haven't read that any of them had converters yet. At least in Europe they don't. But I don't know what they sell in the USA. You could ask others here which model is fine.

In Peacefull Pill book advice is to get the level to 10 000ppm (for 100% sure and 100% fast and painless way) and do test run with CO meter first.

If you write few messages more you can use pm (personal messages).

Is it ok for a generator to have a converter? Which generator is preferable to get high carbon monoxide? Could using a generator and charcoal in a small bedroom work also?

 

[Soul]

Generalized but possibly helpful:

Garage carbon monoxide levels from sources commonly used in intentional poisoning - PubMed

While emissions controls on automobiles have reduced intentional CO poisonings, alternate sources may produce CO at levels of the same magnitude as vehicles manufactured prior to the use of catalytic converters. Those involved in the care of potentially suicidal individuals should be aware of this.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[purplemoon]

Yeah I think he overdid and underdid it at the same time - that's not uncommon. He took some relaxing oral helpers, don't recall which - like, beer, valium or stronger - which makes sense but you have to understand that these will dumb you down , make you careless, or at worse make you feel that life is livable - the horror !
Or just put you to sleep. He also probably underestimate the lacking airtightness of the car.
Don't recall if the amount of CO he produced was sufficient right now, but I think he completely understood why he failed. That restored my faith in human intelligence ;))
LOOK : You have to do this WELL.
Think it through.
Compare sources..
Do the fucking MATH.
Be a man, or woman !!! Walk the walk.
You want this, you are fed up with the shit.
I can so tell you that I am - I'm a strong personality, I'm high IQ, considered physically attractive, been successful in a creative business, had great relationships - whoa, big fucking deal. No serious personal stickups - a few accidents. So what ? I had a great life, but... going on forty, what now ? What do I want ?
Are there still traditions we can cling to ? Everything got deconstructed.
Probably just my exaggerated expectations... something that would last after I die...
Don't we all suffer from that ? Maybe we should go back to being just healthy mammals. Do our thing. Be part of evolution rather than try to be smart asses and escape - where to, what for ? WE CAN'T. We can only masturbate and make believe.
So when society actually started to ape back down, furthering retardedness as a virtue, I simply couldn't take that - we should have gone on developing, I had expected that. I would have so loved more evolution - was that unhealthy ? I don't think so.
So - fuck you, primates ! Die out, primeval, amphibian scavenger shit ! Bong, bazong, swat-beep ! Woo-hoo !
...
But I really only want to get out of the momentary mood (almost done) and I think it would be a fucking waste of time at this point to even get into the details of why... I had a complete breakdown today, never experienced this before. NEVER in my life.
It was a cloudy day in July, very exceptional here... here reminiscent of November.
I need the Sun.
I couldn't take it. I began to howl... I revised my plans and decided to pre-pone the ctb dates, and check out October latest.
Nervous breakdown, almost physical. I felt as if my head would explode. No exit except one.

Life is not initially for thinkers, only for breeders - and the evolution of associative intelligence can be seen as an errant strain.
Life is basically a molecular complication that furthers universal entropy, NOTHING ELSE BUT THAT CAN BE PLAUSIBLY PROVEN, and if you as a mammal manage to interpret this as a satisfactory 'meaning,' be my guest ;)
You're in luck, you're managing yourself.
For me, THE FASTER, THE BETTER.
...
Ooph. Feeling way better after two glasses of Port. Whoa but that was terrible... terrible.
I don't want to feel like this ever again/
I'd really prefer to be dead.


1600 can do - airtight premises.4000 is a safe bet, but with acids you can reach 50000 PPM in a car or a small room.
I can explain the math.
Seriously - everybody can teleport and forever circle the galaxy, accompanied by the Phoenix Asteroids...
Never forget to tell people that the 'nausea' often mentioned is not a quality of CO, but simply resulting from lack of oxygen over a long period of time.
So you want to have an AMPLE supply of oxygen - make sure of that. Don't strangle yourself.
Then kick in the CO, which is able to replace the Oxygen at molecular level, by about factor 250...
So, ample supply of Oxygen is in no way detrimental. It won't matter, but it will keep the nausea away.
You can have as much Oxygen it as you like. Is this understood ? Just don't let the CO escape...
No headaches for you. Only CO can do this !
It's almost magic... the most elegant killer gas ever ;)
Die a sophisticat.

You definitely seem tons more knowledgeable than me about the CO factor needing to be way higher than 10,000... But HOW does one ensure there is enough Charcoal and Woodchips? Or what is this "Acid" stuff mentioned?? (Sorry... I'm a newbie)

My biggest challenge is I don't know Where to buy stuff like the "Acid"... or if it is even legal? (yikes)