The bathroom principle is that i want it to look like an accident, as i am renovating a house where the electricity is unreliable and a generator can be justified. I live alone in a secluded area and so there is no danger to others. My main concern is not being discovered for a while ie several weeks. If i didn't care about the accident i would use a car ie 6m3 as opposed to the bathroom 20m3. I simply can't have my mother thinking i suicided, whatever the other random variables might be.
Overthinking is a big problem with this co method but then, you have to be rational about it. My idea is to fire up the generator for an hour and quickly get into the bathroom and close the door. One of several things might happen. I get ko'd by 9000ppm and die rapidly, i feel extremely ill briefly and then pass out, or i feel extremely ill and am able to leave the room because it's too unpleasant and i don't want to be in there.
You're lucky you live alone. If I was in your situation perhaps I'd do the same. I wouldn't care about being found weeks after or what my parents think, but it's a personal thing at this point.
The reason I'm contemplating doing it in a car is because i'm being monitored. So if I don't answer the phone or reply to messages the apartment manager will likely open the door to see what's going on. So if I do it in the bathroom or my room I only have 3-4 hours before possibly being found out. It would take the bathroom or my room more than 1 hour to reach 10000 ppm, so it's slightly risky. With a car we already know that 1 hour is more than enough. The ambulance doesn't have the tools to break open car doors/windows, so it would take the fire department at least 10 minutes to get to you. Waiting outside the car for an hour, making sure no one is passing by, then getting in, gives you a practically guaranteed chance.
Think of it this way. If 6400 ppm gives you death in less than 20 minutes, and if in 40 minutes you get 9600 ppm, in 1 hour you will get 12-13000 ppm so even if someone finds you right after you are knocked out you will be dead by the time the fire department arrives.
Alternatively what I could do is just schedule an e-mail for when I'm expected to wake up. Could say I'm going to the shop or something. That would extend my time for another 2-3 hours. So I could in theory do it in the bathroom or my room. Not really sure which to choose at this point, but the car is enticing because we already have data for how long it takes. I think the key is to hold your breath so as to make sure you close the door, whether it's bathroom, room, or car.
I guess it's just personal preference at this point. The room or bathroom would take slightly longer, but if you can make sure no one will bother you then the end result will be the same. I suppose you could calculate how long it takes for 20m3 from the 6m3 data. Roughly speaking it would take 3 hours or less to get 10000+ ppm.
Yes, I've heard of many people doing this in lay-bys or woodland at night. But really, it only takes one unfortunately timed dog walker or a curious motorist to give you lifelong inescapable brain damage.
That is not worth the risk, for me. So I 'll do it in a private house where I will not be disturbed (at least until my family get worried and the police track me down, but that won't be for many hours)
You're right, but like I said above if you get in the car at 12000+ ppm, i.e. after 1 hour of waiting, you will die in 3 minutes. So even if someone finds you exactly after you're knocked out, it would be impossible for the fire department to get to you in 3 minutes. But again if you have enough time until discovery you might as well do it in your bedroom if you wish. So it depends on your personal situation.
How many of you have gas stoves in your kitchen?
Google - "incomplete combustion propane gas" and similar.
To burn without offgassing too much CO and soot, the nozzle is designed in a special way.
It had come to my mind that if you tweak the nozzle - actually, make a brand new one - and make it mix the propane gas with oxygen in different proportions, it could be really deadly.
Can be attached to any propane gas tank, can regulate the flame intensity etc.
All you need is some sort of filter at the end to capture the soot and a proper heat insulation...
If anyone here is into DIY stuff, you have to ponder over the right design. I definitely would.
When its ready, the blueprints should be in public domain.
I think Sylvia Plath is the famous gas stove suicide. I don't know if this is possible anymore since they changed the nature of the gas since the 60s. Depending on how your kitchen is laid out, you risk having to fill up your entire house with gas for it to be effective. I think buying or renting a generator seems like an easier solution.