I think there is an issue about letting the co build up and losing the mental ability to take decisions rapidly. The objective of taking the drugs and or alcohol before getting the coals in is to diminish the survival instinct. Many reports suggest death is more likely from co when the person is intoxicated, also when they are of smaller build, say 65 kilos. With high co in the chosen space i think there is a real danger of losing the plot before closing doors.
Perhaps 5 minutes is the key period. It allows the benzos and alcohol to take effect and also allows a slight build up of co, but not to the point where you get ko'd. Those last 5 minutes after putting the coals in and taking some valium could be useful for reflection, smoking a cigarette, watching the stars, or rapidly taping up some doors/ the boot.
In reports of other suicides with CO, i have yet to find one where the person taped up the doors of their car, so this might be overkill.
I can't believe I haven't thought of this method before. This is genius.
I am also going to do this with a generator and a car. I'm thinking of doing it either late at night or early in the morning in a secluded parking lot or near a park. Have you guys picked your spots yet? I think this is crucial to not being saved. We have to take into consideration the loudness factor if there will be pedestrians passing by which can attract attention.
in terms of whether to build up the CO or just stay in the car, I'm thinking of just staying in the car from the very beginning. I think that taping the doors would seem really suspicious and is an overkill. If many others have already succeeded using car and charcoal, there is no reason why this couldn't work.
Are there really any bad side effects from staying in and just dozing off?
Alternatively, you could let the CO build up in the car, then hold your breath using your right hand against your nose/mouth. Enter the car fast and shut the door, then start breathing. Then I assume you'd be knocked out in several breaths give your account of how things went. I'm not really sure which to choose but I might just stick to staying in from the beginning. Worth discussing either way.
Yeh not immediately, but still soon. You realise CO makes you "doze off" too, right? So I am confused as to why cough syrup is needed.
wish to elaborate ? rather vague
I think he's saying that CO generators are not very loud. I'm guessing if you do it in the right location at the right time no one will find you for a long time. Just have to make sure it's an area with no pedestrians.
Another crucial question is how long does it take for the CO to kill you. According to this chart only 3 minutes at 12800 ppm:
Hard to believe it's that fast but I hope it's right. So the question is how long does the cumulative effect of CO build up take for an average 3000W generator to reach 13000 ppm? for smaller generators just adjust the time accordingly. What do you guys think?
I assume in a secluded area you will have at least several hours before unprecedented events might happen and someone notices what you're doing. Shouldn't be an issue but we should make sure.