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Jaegerist123

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May 14, 2022
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The police (possibly DEA) came to my house today. They asked me to cooperate and give them the package that arrived from Mexico containing a liquid that was not what was advertised on the label.

They were talking about the N that I received from D. I ordered 2 items from D that arrived on May 13, 2022. Both items were disguised in labels. The labels were not the original labels for the bottles and didn't say something like "Nembutal" or "Pentobarbital".

I tried to hide the fact that I was the one who purchased the N. Thankfully D disguised the bottles anyway.

Anyway, I gave the bottles of N to the police.

There should be a thread about this to prepare you to receive police visits. If you have N from D, I would do (1) move the N from the traditional bottle that D provides into different bottles. Buy some coca-cola bottles or something from the internet to keep the N inside of. Or if you want / if you can, dig a hole outside in the ground and place the bottles of N there for safe keeping. Don't keep the N near you or in your house. I think the police would have searched the house if I didn't tell them that I had the packages. If I had hidden the packages well (even outside of the house if I needed to) then it would have been easier to tell the police that I didn't have the N.

Anyway, the police said a lot of people are killing themselves with those bottles (the ones with the same labels that came with the N that I ordered from D). So apparently D must have many customers across the United States. But apparently they are not hiding the labels that D is using which is an instruction that D asked me to follow. D asked me to throw away the labels. Which I didn't do because I wasn't expecting to be visited.

Really this information should be in every N megathread but I didn't read it for the few weeks that I have been on this site.

(1) Make sure to hide your N in a different bottle than what D provided you.
(2) Throw away all the labels and even the original bottles if you have to.
(3) Be prepared to be visited by the police even if you receive your package and it's not intercepted by customs.
(4) Be aware that D could always call the cops on you if you provide your address.
(5) If you hide your bottles outside of your house or living space, you can say "the package never came to you" and even give permission for the police to search your place.
(6) Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write. So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide.
 
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Cathy Ames

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Based on your referring to DEA, I guess you are in the US? Based on all the information people felt comfortable to share so openly, I'm not surprised this has happened.
I think the police would have searched the house if I didn't tell them that I had the packages.
If you are in the US, they cannot do that without a warrant unless you agree to it. This much I know. Saying "no" will buy the amount of time it takes for them to get a warrant, which they might not be able to do. And they might leave someone watching your place while they do it. Ugh.
 
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Lost Magic

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The biggest problem is the fact that this site is on the clear net and getting attention from a lot of shoddy journalists doing a hit job on this forum. It's a shame because D is doing his best to provide a service to a lot of desperate people who would otherwise have to hang or find another method that is less peaceful. Who knows what is going to happen moving forward, but I we all have to be more discrete from now on.
 
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GrizzlyGrapefruit

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Jun 17, 2019
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Does anybody know if this has happened to anybody else recently?

Hoping this is just an isolated event.
 
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Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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Not surprising...but shocking, iykwim. Fuck these people tbh. They probably believe they're doing a good service by robbing people of their key to the prison cell door of life.
 
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hankbank3928

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Dec 30, 2021
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I'm hoping this is just an isolated incident. These damn police can't even let us die in peace.
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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I'm hoping this is just an isolated incident. These damn police can't even let us die in peace.
I hope so too. I would fucking hate to see D get busted. D is actually saving people from a life of suffering and these shitty, pathetic cops just want to prolong it. To a lot of people they are already in a prison. Do these Police just want to put people in jail on top of the jail they are already in?
Absolute wankers and a disgrace to humanity.
 
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Sunset Limited

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Jul 29, 2019
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D should change the label. Americans who recently bought N from D should be careful.
 
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downndone2

Living in misery
Jan 23, 2022
1,270
Very strange, they just walked away with the package no questions asked? If any law enforcement knocks on my door, i would not answe the door and if by accident I did, I'd kindly invite them to leave and return should they be able to secure a warrant. If it wasnt intercepted by customs, doesnt sound like there were any grounds for a warrant.
I know my rights and when the time comes I'll still take my chances with getting N
 
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Lost Magic

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May 5, 2020
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D should change the label. Americans who recently bought N from D should be careful.
Amen to that. Maybe make a post advising American buyers to tell D if he could change the labels. I personally think he should change the labels every so often anyway, just to be safe.
 
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watchingthewheels

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Jan 23, 2021
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New member with 5 posts who just joined on Saturday...
Maybe this happened, and maybe it didn't...
Just sayin'...
 
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hankbank3928

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I hope so too. I would fucking hate to see D get busted. D is actually saving people from a life of suffering and these shitty, pathetic cops just want to prolong it. To a lot of people they are already in a prison. Do these Police just want to put people in jail on top of the jail they are already in?
Absolute wankers and a disgrace to humanity.
You said it better than I could say it myself. D is a hero. These cops are brainwashed scum.
New member with 5 posts who just joined on Saturday...
Maybe this happened, and maybe it didn't...
Just sayin'...
I was thinking that too, it's entirely possible that this post could be fake.
 
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downndone2

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Jan 23, 2022
1,270
New member with 5 posts who just joined on Saturday...
Maybe this happened, and maybe it didn't...
Just sayin'...
Yep, seems bizarre. I hate calling a kettle any color
 
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its-about-time

its-about-time

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Mar 19, 2022
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Having watched a lot of shows about illegal items being smuggled into the US… the authorities sometimes do what they call a "controlled delivery" in which they allow a package to be delivered to the intended recipient with the goal of gaining more information about the smuggling operation. They will then either continue to surveil the recipient to see what happens next, or they will step in with a warrant on-hand to confiscate the package and/or arrest the recipient. I would be surprised if the police who showed up at OP's door didn't have a warrant on-hand and were simply shooting for calm cooperation before revealing the warrant—and calm cooperation is what they got.

OP, did the police seem to think you didn't know what you had purchased? Or believe that it wasn't you who had purchased it? — maybe they just didn't care.

The authorities must realize that purchasers of N from D know nothing about D, so perhaps their goal of controlled delivery is to make it known that they can be "caught" so the word spreads to other potential buyers?

D should certainly be using a variety of labels that are discontinued frequently. Maybe she/he was more interested in having an identifiable product, but obviously that isnt working out too well right now..

And as another user implied, this could just be an attempt to scare people out of purchasing from D 🤷 A thrilling mystery…
 
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Hercules

Hercules

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Jan 31, 2021
408
In the US, you have 4th amendment rights. If the police come to your house, you don't have to talk to them or even answer the door. The police can't enter your house, unless you give them permission. You don't have to give them permission to enter your house unless they have a warrant. The police also need a warrant to search your house. In order to get a warrant they have to have probable cause, and the search warrant has to state specifically what they are looking for. If the police don't have a warrant, don't let them enter your house or search it. Tell them to leave and slam your door shut. There is nothing they can do.

If the police tell you that they have a warrant, ask to see it and what the warrant is for. If the police start asking you questions, or try to accuse you of a crime, don't talk to them. Don't try to defend yourself or talk your way out of it. They will try to trick you and get you to admit to something that they will use against you later. Keep your mouth shut. Don't admit to anything. Never hand over your N or any other incriminating evidence to the police, because they tell you that they know you have it, or they ask you to. They are only fishing for evidence, and only know what you tell them. In the worst case If they arrest you, keep your mouth shut and get a good lawyer.
 
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ornitier199

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Mar 26, 2022
413
Or just stick to slitting my own throat then those risks and tribulations.
 
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downndone2

Living in misery
Jan 23, 2022
1,270
Very strange, they just walked away with the package no questions asked? If any law enforcement knocks on my door, i would not answe the door and if by accident I did, I'd kindly invite them to leave and return should they be able to secure a warrant. If it wasnt intercepted by customs, doesnt sound like there were any grounds for a warrant.
I know my rights and when the time comes I'll still take my chances with getting N
And if it were the DEA at your door, thered be no possibly about it, they wear shirts that day DEA in real big letters. Regardless theyd have to i
Having watched a lot of shows about illegal items being smuggled into the US… the authorities sometimes do what they call a "controlled delivery" in which they allow a package to be delivered to the intended recipient with the goal of gaining more information about the smuggling operation. They will then either continue to surveil the recipient to see what happens next, or they will step in with a warrant on-hand to confiscate the package and/or arrest the recipient. I would be surprised if the police who showed up at OP's door didn't have a warrant on-hand and were simply shooting for calm cooperation before revealing the warrant—and calm cooperation is what they got.

OP, did the police seem to think you didn't know what you had purchased? Or believe that it wasn't you who had purchased it? — maybe they just didn't care.

The authorities must realize that purchasers of N from D know nothing about D, so perhaps their goal of controlled delivery is to make it known that they can be "caught" so the word spreads to other potential buyers?

D should certainly be using a variety of labels that are discontinued frequently. Maybe she/he was more interested in having an identifiable product, but obviously that isnt working out too well right now..

And as another user implied, this could just be an attempt to scare people out of purchasing from D 🤷 A thrilling mystery…
The scenario is odd in this situation to say the least. If they have proof he ordered the N and know what it is/used for then they would have known there was suicidal intent and likely intervened on that front as well. I believe they wouldnt have allowed it to be delivered and wouldve just intercepted package with a follow up. We have to consider op has been a member for 5 days. How many of us had any idea of this source prior to joining and already had it ordered.
It seems like a scare tactic, as I've just not once heard of any scenario like it with N.
I could be wrong but taking it with a grain of salt.
 
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Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
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"Possibly DEA" I would think that police identify themselves in such a way there's absolutely no doubt as to who they are…
And if it were the DEA at your door, thered be no possibly about it, they wear shirts that day DEA in real big letters. Regardless theyd have to i
You beat me to it! 😁
 
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downndone2

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Jan 23, 2022
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"Possibly DEA" I would think that police identify themselves in such a way there's absolutely no doubt as to who they are…

You beat me to it! 😁
And you are right, they identify themselves. I clearly didnt finish my thought before I hit post, lol
The more I play the whole thing out in my head, it just smells more and more like a rotting fish.
I dont answer my door for doordash let alone people in uniform lol and I'm a perfectly law abiding citizen.
Let's say I had N and DEA was at my door. I'd be hiding it damn quick or even whirling it around in garbage disposal in the glass with the labels.
 
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Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
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And you are right, they identify themselves. I clearly didnt finish my thought before I hit post, lol
The more I play the whole thing out in my head, it just smells more and more like a rotting fish.
I dont answer my door for doordash let alone people in uniform lol and I'm a perfectly law abiding citizen.
Let's say I had N and DEA was at my door. I'd be hiding it damn quick or even whirling it around in garbage disposal in the glass with the labels.
And I doubt they'd show up for one guy with two bottles. If they thought they could gain leverage into a smuggling operation, sure, I could see it. Then they'd sit on you until they had enough to move. This stuff they'd confiscate at customs, and maybe send you a note. They really don't have the budget to intervene on suicidal individuals.
 
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Beer_is_all_I_have

Years of numbness. When will it stop?
Dec 18, 2021
62
(4) Be aware that D could always call the cops on you if you provide your address.

Yes that's the way to treat valued customers 🤣
 
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Hercules

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Jan 31, 2021
408
New member with 5 posts who just joined on Saturday...
Maybe this happened, and maybe it didn't...
Just sayin'...
I was going to say the same thing. This story is suspicious. There are too many things that don't add up if you read it carefully.

1. According to the OP, some police show up at his house, but he isn't sure who they are. The police didn't identify themselves, and the OP didn't bother to ask for ID. He just let them in his house and handed over his N, because they ask him to?

2. "The police (possibly DEA) came to my house today. They asked me to cooperate and give them the package that arrived from Mexico containing a liquid that was not what was advertised on the label."

The DEA would never say this. If the package was opened and tested at customs, the DEA would already know what it was, and they would have had a warrant saying that they were looking for N. According to the OP, the DEA don't appear to know the name of the liquid. Also they would know that when people buy recreational drugs online, they are always disguised as something else, and never labelled as what they really are.

3. The OP says that the labels on the bottles were changed. This is true as those of us who ordered N know. Some members have given a general hint to what the label is disguised as, but of course have not publicly stated what it is for obvious reasons. The OP doesn't seem to know what the N is disguised as, even though he claims to have the N. He only says that "It doesn't say Nembutal or Pentobarital or anything like that."


4. " The police said a lot of people are killing themselves with those bottles (the ones with the same labels that came with the N that I ordered from D). So apparently D must have many customers across the United States. But apparently they are not hiding the labels that D is using which is an instruction that D asked me to follow. D asked me to throw away the labels."

There is no way that the police are discussing this with the OP, and telling him how many people are ordering N from D and killing themselves with it. Why would they? The police don't come to your house, sit down at your kitchen table and gossip with you about police business and tell you how many other people are committing the same crime they are accusing you of. That would be very sloppy police work.

5. "Be aware the D could always call the cops on you if you give him your address."

D is not going to call the cops on you. He has a good thing going for him. In his line of work, building up a good reputation for himself is everything. He is not going to call the cops on his customers. If he did and word got out, he would be out of business. Also there is no way for him to turn his customers over to the police without implicating himself and risk going to jail himself. LE would be much more interested in figuring out who D is and prosecuting him than coming after and prosecuting us.

6. The OP says that the police know what is in the bottles, and that people are killing themselves with it. The OP never tells us what happens next. They don't arrest him for having the N, even though the OP hands it over to them and tells them what it is and admits that he purchased it? They don't ask the OP if he plans to kill himself or have him sectioned? They just take the N and leave? That just doesn't make any sense.

7. The OP isn't upset about what just happened. He just calmly writes this post, and then logs off instead of possibly calling a lawyer and telling him what just happened, and if he should be worried.

8. " Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write. So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide."

This last one doesn't even make any sense. Did the OP tell the police that he is a member of SS? If he didn't, why does he think that the police suspect he is an SS member? Why would the police even care? The OP told us that the police already came to his house. They already know who he is, and they confiscated his N and left. Why is he worried that the police are going to come on here, read through thousands of posts, and triangulate who he is based on his posts? According to him, they already know who he is and where he lives.

9. If LE really knew what they were looking for, most of the packages would be confiscated by customs. This is not the case. Most of us are getting our packages. Even in the cases where customs have opened the packages, most people still have received the packages. Very few have been confiscated.
 
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watchingthewheels

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And as another user implied, this could just be an attempt to scare people out of purchasing from D 🤷 A thrilling mystery…
I guess the previous fear-mongering posts about N weren't working ("how do we know N is truly painless?", "mine tested as not real", "how do I know it will work?", etc), so this is the new tactic...
 
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bing

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Apr 15, 2022
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Homeland security and someone from ICE confiscated my N today. I was involuntarily hospitalized by my parents earlier last month. I was out for a walk and my dad said three men talked to him and found my N in a dresser.
I'm probably done posting here. I had tried to do it but SI got in the way big time. I don't think I got the balls to kill myself after all.

If you got N definitely hide it well. Now I'm out $750
 
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Seems like a timeline to use between receiving and getting seized...
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Yes, I'm very suspicious of this person with just 5 posts. too. And I thought that D was out of N until like July or something? And this new person with just 5 posts already managed to figure out how to contact D and obtain N? And where was the mention of the warrant in the OPs post? Not one word about it. And doesn't anyone find it strange that the OP started this thread and has not uttered one word in any follow up post, even though others, like me, have made some disparaging remarks regarding the veracity of the entire incident? Something smells very funny here. And now I read another post in this thread from another relative newcomer here which, pretty much, says the same thing as the OP. It's bewildering how this only seems to be happening to newcomers. I hope the mods can get these do-gooder scammers the hell out of here.

Yep, seems bizarre. I hate calling a kettle any color
No, in this case, go ahead and call it for what it is!
 
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Ta555

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Glad others are already pointing out how bogus this story is. I highly doubt any of this happened.
 
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Shu

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I was going to say the same thing. This story is suspicious. There are too many things that don't add up if you read it carefully.

1. According to the OP, some police show up at his house, but he isn't sure who they are. The police didn't identify themselves, and the OP didn't bother to ask for ID. He just let them in his house and handed over his N, because they ask him to?

2. "The police (possibly DEA) came to my house today. They asked me to cooperate and give them the package that arrived from Mexico containing a liquid that was not what was advertised on the label."

The DEA would never say this. If the package was opened and tested at customs, the DEA would already know what it was, and they would have had a warrant saying that they were looking for N. According to the OP, the DEA don't appear to know the name of the liquid. Also they would know that when people buy recreational drugs online, they are always disguised as something else, and never labelled as what they really are.

3. The OP says that the labels on the bottles were changed. This is true as those of us who ordered N know. Some members have given a general hint to what the label is disguised as, but of course have not publicly stated what it is for obvious reasons. The OP doesn't seem to know what the N is disguised as, even though he claims to have the N. He only says that "It doesn't say Nembutal or Pentobarital or anything like that."


4. " The police said a lot of people are killing themselves with those bottles (the ones with the same labels that came with the N that I ordered from D). So apparently D must have many customers across the United States. But apparently they are not hiding the labels that D is using which is an instruction that D asked me to follow. D asked me to throw away the labels."

There is no way that the police are discussing this with the OP, and telling him how many people are ordering N from D and killing themselves with it. Why would they? The police don't come to your house, sit down at your kitchen table and gossip with you about police business and tell you how many other people are committing the same crime they are accusing you of. That would be very sloppy police work.

5. "Be aware the D could always call the cops on you if you give him your address."

D is not going to call the cops on you. He has a good thing going for him. In his line of work, building up a good reputation for himself is everything. He is not going to call the cops on his customers. If he did and word got out, he would be out of business. Also there is no way for him to turn his customers over to the police without implicating himself and risk going to jail himself. LE would be much more interested in figuring out who D is and prosecuting him than coming after and prosecuting us.

6. The OP says that the police know what is in the bottles, and that people are killing themselves with it. The OP never tells us what happens next. They don't arrest him for having the N, even though the OP hands it over to them and tells them what it is and admits that he purchased it? They don't ask the OP if he plans to kill himself or have him sectioned? They just take the N and leave? That just doesn't make any sense.

7. The OP isn't upset about what just happened. He just calmly writes this post, and then logs off instead of possibly calling a lawyer and telling him what just happened, and if he should be worried.

8. " Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write. So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide."

This last one doesn't even make any sense. Did the OP tell the police that he is a member of SS? If he didn't, why does he think that the police suspect he is an SS member? Why would the police even care? The OP told us that the police already came to his house. They already know who he is, and they confiscated his N and left. Why is he worried that the police are going to come on here, read through thousands of posts, and triangulate who he is based on his posts? According to him, they already know who he is and where he lives.

9. If LE really knew what they were looking for, most of the packages would be confiscated by customs. This is not the case. Most of us are getting our packages. Even in the cases where customs have opened the packages, most people still have received the packages. Very few have been confiscated.
You smell bacon?
Yes, I'm very suspicious of this person with just 5 posts. too. And I thought that D was out of N until like July or something? And this new person with just 5 posts already managed to figure out how to contact D and obtain N? And where was the mention of the warrant in the OPs post? Not one word about it. And doesn't anyone find it strange that the OP started this thread and has not uttered one word in any follow up post, even though others, like me, have made some disparaging remarks regarding the veracity of the entire incident? Something smells very funny here. And now I read another post in this thread from another relative newcomer here which, pretty much, says the same thing as the OP. It's bewildering how this only seems to be happening to newcomers. I hope the mods can get these do-gooder scammers the hell out of here.


No, in this case, go ahead and call it for what it is!
Can you link that other thread? Thabk you.
 
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