Be careful handling N from D. Police confiscated my N today. Police are Watching.

[Hercules]

Homeland security and someone from ICE confiscated my N today. I was involuntarily hospitalized by my parents earlier last month. I was out for a walk and my dad said three men talked to him and found my N in a dresser.
I'm probably done posting here. I had tried to do it but SI got in the way big time. I don't think I got the balls to kill myself after all.

If you got N definitely hide it well. Now I'm out $750

Let me get this straight. Homeland Security came to your house today while you were by total coincidence just happened to be going out for a walk at that exact moment. Your father talked to Homeland Security and let them search the house without a warrant. They had time to search the entire house and find the N before you returned from your walk. Even though the N is disguised, they knew exactly where the N was hidden, and what it looks like. They had no trouble finding it.

After Homeland Security found the N, they just left? They didn't bother to wait for you to return from your walk, so they could talk to you? They didn't arrest you for possession of N, or call the local police and have you sectioned even though your father told them you are suicidal and had been involuntarily committed less than a month ago, and they found you had purchased something
that could kill you? They just left with the N?

What about your father? What did he say? You said he knows that you are suicidal. He is worried about you, and had you involuntarily hospitalized last month. Is he going to have you hospitalized again?

I don't want to be rude, but I find this story hard to believe. It doesn't make any sense. It is even more ridiculous than the OP's story.

 

[CassieHoward]

Besides the issues with the story itself, I'd like to clarify things from a legal perspective.

First of all, let's get the most ridiculous bit out of the way. D is not going to call the police on anybody. I'm only going to focus on the glaring legal issue here, which is the fact that D is a drug dealer and is, obviously, not involved with the police right now. If D wants to go to prison for the rest of their life, they could go ahead and do this. Mexico is not going to cut a deal with a drug trafficker to give up all of their clients, and even if this somehow happens, it's contingent on NUMEROUS government entities worldwide cooperating to scoop up all of his clients. That kind of cooperation hardly exists in individual countries. If D only trafficked within Mexico that would be one thing, but he doesn't.

Next, and most important: NEVER give the police permission to search anything. Don't even open your door, because anything you have laying out in plain sight would be entirely admissable. If the police have reason to search your place, they will go and get a warrant. Even if you have never ordered anything and have nothing to hide, you stand to gain absolutely nothing from letting the police search whatever they want to search.

Also frightening is OP's need to craft some story for the police. "The package never came to you" - why would you ever admit to the existance of a package, especially one containing illegal paraphernilia? Legally, if police asked why OP ordered illegal drugs and he says exactly what he does in his "advice" section (to say the package didn't go to you), congratulations! You just told police you know something about illegal drugs being ordered! If police ever did come to you and say what OP claims they said to him (they wouldn't, btw), it would be in your best interest to tell them to come back with a warrant - don't even respond to their questions. There's nothing that says you HAVE to cooperate with, or even respond to, questions from the police, let alone when they have no warrant and no basis to detain you.

Also, I don't know why OP seems to think warrants only exist for your house. Warrants for house searches apply to the yard too (usually). And obviously, they can get warrants for your car, any property you own or rent, any mailboxes or storage units you rent, or even your boat you keep docked up nine months of the year. This would be hilarious if it wasn't so outrageously stupid.

To be blunt, this is extremely dangerous "advice" to be giving out. I'd hope a mod could, at the very least, get rid of those points because if someone naive comes along and reads just that, they're going to get in far more trouble than they should.

 

[Beer_is_all_I_have]

I actually interacted with this user on the N from D thread. He said how he paid D, using a WU like money service, Remitly. He posted receipts which looked legit but I told him to delete the copies as it possibly had compromising info, like I remember it had the transfer amount in pesos. I do believe he actually did get N. Perhaps he did get tracked by using this service. Kinda surprised D would accept that service but it is a common way to transfer to his country.

This user also made a bizarre post about using SN, N and rope at the same time. Maybe odd but I think this user is legit. Probably used another account to research how to get N.

Related story: A friend of mine bought a lot of meds from Mexico using MG and one time used my address. One morning I was awoken to knocking on the front door. It was the police, holding an unopened package and asking to see my friend. Fortunately because she wasn't at my house I didn't have to lie and told them she didn't live here. They asked me if I knew so and so which I didn't. The cops walked away with the package.

 

[Shu]

I actually interacted with this user on the N from D thread. He said how he paid D, using a WU like money service. He posted receipts which looked legit but I told him to delete the copies as it possibly had compromising info, like I remember it had the transfer amount in pesos. I do believe he actually did get N. Perhaps he did get tracked by using this service. Kinda surprised D would accept that service but it is a common way to transfer to his country.

This user also made a bizarre post about using SN, N and rope at the same time. Maybe odd but I think this user is legit. Probably used another account to research how to get N.

You can research how to get N without having an account.

 

[Imissyoumydarling]

(4) Be aware that D could always call the cops on you if you provide your address.

Yes that's the way to treat valued customers

To be fair he probably doesn't have too many repeat customers lol

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This entire SS Forum is completely crawling with LE right now. Better be careful what you share with "newbies" y'all.

 

[LeavingEarly]

What state was this?

 

[wait.what]

give permission for the police to search your place.

Never do this. It's a terrible idea.

police are probably reading what you write.

Good, then maybe they'll read this: quit sending armed and uniformed officers to psyche welfare calls. There are a lot of reasons to avoid doing that, but the main one is you can't talk someone out of suicide by pointing a gun at them. If you want someone talked off a ledge, get an actual psyche professional.

So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide.

What. The police know who you are. They went to your house and confiscated your N. Now you're worried they're going to stalk you on a website? Why? They already have everything they need to charge you. Just because they haven't done it yet doesn't mean they won't.

Also, the idea that an international drug trafficker would call the cops on his own customers is beyond bizarre.

When you say you want to help fellow SS members, what type of help do you mean? You've let us know that buying controlled substances over the internet is illegal and therefore potentially risky. We knew that. You've also provided a textbook example of how NOT to interact with the police. The ACLU has actual information on what to do if you're stopped by police in the United States: https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/stopped-by-police It doesn't matter if you're a citizen or just visiting, your civil rights should be the same. I say "should be" because who even knows who gets to assert their civil rights anymore. I mean, they acquitted Rittenhouse, so that's fucked up. Now that I think of it, just don't don't ever come here if you can avoid it. And if you do come here, certainly don't stay. I was born here, have no secondary citizenship, and am disabled and largely indigent. No other country would take me. So unless I ctb soon I'll be among the last ones here, closing the eyes of the corpses and shutting off the lights. Later we can roast weenies around a burning car and sing "Found A Peanut" and "I Met A Bear." It'll be great.

 

[Tiemblo]

What is D?

 

[wait.what]

What state was this?

The state of acute intoxication.

Also, D is pretty mysterious, but I think he fights vampires.

 

[GentleJerk]

***DON'T OPEN THE BOTTLES AND PUT THE CONTENTS INTO A DIFFERENT CONTAINER. OPENING THE BOTTLES CAUSES THE PRODUCT TO EXPIRE QUICKLY WITHIN WEEKS/MONTHS RATHER THAN REMAIN FRESH FOR YEARS.***

Hiding the bottles in a safe, secret, and secure location once you receive them, should be sufficient to protect you from any potential mishaps or paranoia.

 

[Imissyoumydarling]

Also, D is pretty mysterious, but I think he fights vampires.

I hear his hair's insured for $10,000. And he does car commercials... In Japan.

 

[befree]

It´s not surprising me. There are too many details about shipping, customs declaration and label written in the forum. Not only members read in this forum. And the biggest problem is that everybody can read in the forum without registration and login. And everybody can read books like PPH, where sources of supply are mentioned. Besides, there are many people who fight against this forum.

Be careful with new members. Don't write personal details in the forum or by PM, not even where you live.

 

[wljourney]

I actually interacted with this user on the N from D thread. He said how he paid D, using a WU like money service, Remitly. He posted receipts which looked legit but I told him to delete the copies as it possibly had compromising info, like I remember it had the transfer amount in pesos. I do believe he actually did get N. Perhaps he did get tracked by using this service. Kinda surprised D would accept that service but it is a common way to transfer to his country.

This user also made a bizarre post about using SN, N and rope at the same time. Maybe odd but I think this user is legit. Probably used another account to research how to get N.

Related story: A friend of mine bought a lot of meds from Mexico using MG and one time used my address. One morning I was awoken to knocking on the front door. It was the police, holding an unopened package and asking to see my friend. Fortunately because she wasn't at my house I didn't have to lie and told them she didn't live here. They asked me if I knew so and so which I didn't. The cops walked away with the package.

Yup.
I remember seeing those posts and tend to agree that the OP may quite possibly have successfully purchased N.

This is the second similar story I hear this week (one directly from someone who received a "wellness visit" this week) and while I agree that parts of the OP's story sound strange, i have reason to believe it to be true.

I also recall this part of the PPeH describing raids in France and Spain in 2019.

Authorities acted on tips from their US colleagues.

Does anybody know if this has happened to anybody else recently?

Hoping this is just an isolated event.

Yes.
Similar story this week w police visiting for a wellness check, after a package was seized.

 

[YourNeighbor]

The police (possibly DEA) came to my house today. They asked me to cooperate and give them the package that arrived from Mexico containing a liquid that was not what was advertised on the label.

They were talking about the N that I received from D. I ordered 2 items from D that arrived on May 13, 2022. Both items were disguised in labels. The labels were not the original labels for the bottles and didn't say something like "Nembutal" or "Pentobarbital".

I tried to hide the fact that I was the one who purchased the N. Thankfully D disguised the bottles anyway.

Anyway, I gave the bottles of N to the police.

There should be a thread about this to prepare you to receive police visits. If you have N from D, I would do (1) move the N from the traditional bottle that D provides into different bottles. Buy some coca-cola bottles or something from the internet to keep the N inside of. Or if you want / if you can, dig a hole outside in the ground and place the bottles of N there for safe keeping. Don't keep the N near you or in your house. I think the police would have searched the house if I didn't tell them that I had the packages. If I had hidden the packages well (even outside of the house if I needed to) then it would have been easier to tell the police that I didn't have the N.

Anyway, the police said a lot of people are killing themselves with those bottles (the ones with the same labels that came with the N that I ordered from D). So apparently D must have many customers across the United States. But apparently they are not hiding the labels that D is using which is an instruction that D asked me to follow. D asked me to throw away the labels. Which I didn't do because I wasn't expecting to be visited.

Really this information should be in every N megathread but I didn't read it for the few weeks that I have been on this site.

(1) Make sure to hide your N in a different bottle than what D provided you.
(2) Throw away all the labels and even the original bottles if you have to.
(3) Be prepared to be visited by the police even if you receive your package and it's not intercepted by customs.
(4) Be aware that D could always call the cops on you if you provide your address.
(5) If you hide your bottles outside of your house or living space, you can say "the package never came to you" and even give permission for the police to search your place.
(6) Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write. So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide.

So, you say cops came by your place to take your N, you're not even sure about what agency they were with(wtf?!), and you write all about it here?

That said, for far too long there has been a stream of idiot-posts here describing specifics of N purchases, discussing dates of purchase, payment and shipment details, and jurisdictions. Insane. And the mods allow it, jeopardizing the one source of N for everyone.

Btw, if you remove the N from the original bottle, according to reports you're exposing it to air and dramatically reducing shelf life.

Also, don't give permission for police to search your place. Ever. What sort of advice is that? Either they have a warrant and don't need permission or they don't and don't get to search through your house.

8. " Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write.

This last one doesn't even make any sense. Did the OP tell the police that he is a member of SS? If he didn't, why does he think that the police suspect he is an SS member? Why would the police even care? The OP told us that the police already came to his house. They already know who he is, and they confiscated his N and left. Why is he worried that the police are going to come on here, read through thousands of posts, and triangulate who he is based on his posts? According to him, they already know who he is and where he lives.

Generally good points re the OP, but one implication of the OP is legit. Too many here post details of their purchases, making themselves easy targets for LEOs and divulging far too much info regarding D.

 

[Veraln]

Yes.
Similar story this week w police visiting for a wellness check, after a package was seized.

In which country did this second wellness check occur ?

 

[Cathy Ames]

This is the second similar story I hear this week (one directly from someone who received a "wellness visit" this week) and while I agree that parts of the OP's story sound strange, i have reason to believe it to be true.

Yeah, a lot of us here are not "reliable narrators," and maybe we don't know the correct terminology for things, get super stressed in the moment, do stupid things, don't notice important details, forget important names, dates, chronology, etc., and/or give really bad advice. This results in our accounts of events sometimes being less than accurate, and OF COURSE any advice you get here should be taken with a grain of salt, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the event did not happen at all.

As for "Bing," why assume Bing is lying? Why not perhaps wonder if Bing's father might have lied to them, which is a thing that does often happen, I do believe.

That said, for far too long there has been a stream of idiot-posts here describing specifics of N purchases, discussing dates of purchase, payment and shipment details, and jurisdictions. Insane. And the mods allow it, jeopardizing the one source of N for everyone.

Yes! Once someone posted D's email address, asking to have it verified. I've mostly quit even reading the "N from D" or "Scams" threads any longer. It's bad for my health.

 

[TheBroken]

Not saying it's for sure pork ...... just too much doesn't make sense. I'd still order N if it were me, but I already have my method ready so not needed.

 

[Hercules]

That said, for far too long there has been a stream of idiot-posts here describing specifics of N purchases, discussing dates of purchase, payment and shipment details, and jurisdictions. Insane. And the mods allow it, jeopardizing the one source of N for everyone.

Generally good points re the OP, but one implication of the OP is legit. Too many here post details of their purchases, making themselves easy targets for LEOs and divulging far too much info regarding D.

This is true. Some people do post sensitive information, and should be more careful what they post on a public forum. I think that some people have a false sense of security online and think that they can post whatever they want, because they mistakenly think it's anonymous. Of course nothing someone posts online is really anonymous. What is posted online can be traced back to you if someone really wants to take the time to find out who you are.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't be careful. Certainly there are risks when buying N. There is always a risk that customs could confiscate the N. It is also possible in some cases that LE could show up at your house and start asking questions, but this is less

---

Likely and wouldn't happen to most people. If customs knew what it was, they would just confiscate the package. They wouldn't let it go through. It is up to each person to access their own situation and decide if it is worth it for them to take that risk.

I agree that some people do post too much information about D and should be more discrete. I don't think in most cases they are putting D at risk. LE ready know about D. They probably know more about D than we do. I doubt that they are going to learn any new information about D from reading the posts here. D's contact information is listed in the PPH clear as day. I'm sure that more than one member of LE has already contacted D and posed as a customer in order to learn more about D and how he runs his business.

 

[Pain In The Ass]

New member with 5 posts who just joined on Saturday...
Maybe this happened, and maybe it didn't...
Just sayin'...

why would someone do that? to deter people from buying from N?

 

[Hercules]

As for "Bing," why assume Bing is lying? Why not perhaps wonder if Bing's father might have lied to them, which is a thing that does often happen, I do believe.

Bing said that his father talked with Homeland Security and let them search the house. His father may have lied and tried to take the blame. He doesn't say.
Still, Homeland Security found the N and confiscated it. It seems unlikely that they would search someone's house, find incriminating evidence, and just leave without waiting to talk to Bing or come back later if Bing is an adult. They are Homeland Security. You don't want to mess around with them and get on their radar. They are in a completely different league than the local police.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Bing said that his father talked with Homeland Security and let them search the house. His father may have lied and tried to take the blame. He doesn't say.
Still, Homeland Security found the N and confiscated it. It seems unlikely that they would search someone's house, find incriminating evidence, and just leave without waiting to talk to Bing or come back later if Bing is an adult. They are Homeland Security. You don't want to mess around with them and get on their radar. They are in a completely different league than the local police.

I read what Bing said. It sounds to me like Bing's father found the N, took it (did who knows what--threw it away, maybe), and made up a story. I don't think it is a casual, NBD thing to have Homeland Security in (or even outside) your house.

Anyway. If you have more questions. Let me know.

Yeah, I do. Why in the world do you think it is in any way a good idea to be blabbing about exactly how the product is disguised?!?!

Holy Mother of CRAP.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The police (possibly DEA) came to my house today. They asked me to cooperate and give them the package that arrived from Mexico containing a liquid that was not what was advertised on the label.

They were talking about the N that I received from D. I ordered 2 items from D that arrived on May 13, 2022. Both items were disguised in labels. The labels were not the original labels for the bottles and didn't say something like "Nembutal" or "Pentobarbital".

I tried to hide the fact that I was the one who purchased the N. Thankfully D disguised the bottles anyway.

Anyway, I gave the bottles of N to the police.

There should be a thread about this to prepare you to receive police visits. If you have N from D, I would do (1) move the N from the traditional bottle that D provides into different bottles. Buy some coca-cola bottles or something from the internet to keep the N inside of. Or if you want / if you can, dig a hole outside in the ground and place the bottles of N there for safe keeping. Don't keep the N near you or in your house. I think the police would have searched the house if I didn't tell them that I had the packages. If I had hidden the packages well (even outside of the house if I needed to) then it would have been easier to tell the police that I didn't have the N.

Anyway, the police said a lot of people are killing themselves with those bottles (the ones with the same labels that came with the N that I ordered from D). So apparently D must have many customers across the United States. But apparently they are not hiding the labels that D is using which is an instruction that D asked me to follow. D asked me to throw away the labels. Which I didn't do because I wasn't expecting to be visited.

Really this information should be in every N megathread but I didn't read it for the few weeks that I have been on this site.

(1) Make sure to hide your N in a different bottle than what D provided you.
(2) Throw away all the labels and even the original bottles if you have to.
(3) Be prepared to be visited by the police even if you receive your package and it's not intercepted by customs.
(4) Be aware that D could always call the cops on you if you provide your address.
(5) If you hide your bottles outside of your house or living space, you can say "the package never came to you" and even give permission for the police to search your place.
(6) Don't share a lot of private information on the forums because police are probably reading what you write. So the police could possibly triangulate who I am based on the event that just happened (they took my N) and me having written this post on the same day. I just thought I'd' help out other members of sanctioned suicide.

For us in the U.S. this looks bad. Guess i was right after all i should've stuck with SN . All 2019,2020,2021 SS'rs were right, SN is the way no hassles from LE .

 

[Smart No More]

It doesn't look good does it!?


Personally I think (and have thought) this forum aught to be private. That is to say you should have to have an account to read anything here. With it being an open forum everything written on the boards can be viewed by anyone and Google (or whoever) will be indexing everything. I know it should be available to everyone and I know people can just create an account if they wanted to look at stuff but my view on that is, better the devil you know and can ban if found out. Alao it might to the reputation of the site a small amount of good to be at least a little private. We're currently leaving everything out in the open for LE and underage people to read with no filter. If someone posts a little too much info there's no taking it back so it's literally exposing our weakest link to the elements. At least with a closed forum moderators get time to delete sesitive info before it's out in the open public domain. Also from a personal point of view I don't really like having my posts available to the likes of Google etc. Even with good opsec I wouldn't want ro find my prorile here under scrutiny for any reason and attempts made to link it to my identity. I'm not saying it will happen. It could though. We all share thoughts ans info here and it could be scewed as being somewhat complicit in helping other ctb. The law isn't always a fair. Just saying.


BTW I believe OP. Whilst there's some clear naivety I definitely believe their account.

 

[Beer_is_all_I_have]

[Deleted]

I believe you but please delete this post! Before you posted receipts to me which I told you to delete. Please delete this or at least any info about D and his product! You are exposing information that we have guarded for months. The law enforcement (LE) can read this and we don't want info about D open! I do believe you mean well but exposing D is NOT helpful!

Thanks hope things work out for you

 

[Smart No More]

I believe you but please delete this post! Before you posted receipts to me which I told you to delete. Please delete this or at least any info about D! You are exposing information that we have guarded for months. The law enforcement (LE) can read this and we don't want info about D open! I do believe you mean well but exposing D is NOT helpful!

Thanks hope things work out for you

I agree but honestly this stuff has been shared on the forums multiple times since I joined. It's already out there. LE clearly already know the details as they pointed them out to OP in the visit. People have posted pics of the bottles and labels and all sorts. It's infuriating to say the least but it's done. It's all the more reason to make the forum a closed one as members will always do this and there's no taking it back. Even i this instance, it's done now. LE have only to look at the 'way back machine'. It will be there, unedited. :(

On a side note, has anyone contacted and spoken with D to make them aware this has happened. There's been reports of border seizures too (though I don't know the specifics so please don't ask). It's probably prudent for someone to have a little conversation with D about this. Ideal someone with a broad awareness of the details.

 

[Beer_is_all_I_have]

I agree but honestly this stuff has been shared on the forums multiple times since I joined. It's already out there. LE clearly already know the details as they pointed them out to OP in the visit. People have posted pics of the bottles and labels and all sorts. It's infuriating to say the least but it's done. It's all the more reason to make the forum a closed one as members will always do this and there's no taking it back. Even i this instance, it's done now. LE hwve only to look at the 'way back machine'. It will be there, unedited. :(

On a side note, has anyone contacted and spoken with D to make them aware this has happened. There's been reports of border seizures too (though I don't know the specifics so please don't ask). It's probably prudent for someone to have a little conversation with D about this. Ideal someone with a broad awareness of the details.

Okay didn't realize others thoughtlessly posted this info too. Was hoping it could be deleted before the way back machine had stored it.

Still wonder how he was exposed. It could through this site. I still wonder if it could be his payment service.

 

[Chronic]

A lawmaker asked the Dept of Justice to investigate this website so it's possible they are helping to disrupt means and communication.

Trahan Leads Bipartisan Call for Action to Stop "Sanctioned Suicide" Website

Trahan Leads Bipartisan Call for Action to Stop “Sanctioned Suicide” Website

trahan.house.gov

Seems other lawmakers are urging action as well...

Lawmakers call on tech firms to take threat of suicide site seriously, limit its visibility

Congressional lawmakers are calling on technology companies to take the threat of websites that promote suicide seriously and limit their visibility after The New York Times published an investigat…

thehill.com

 

[wljourney]

On a side note, has anyone contacted and spoken with D to make them aware this has happened. There's been reports of border seizures too (though I don't know the specifics so please don't ask). It's probably prudent for someone to have a little conversation with D about this. Ideal someone with a broad awareness of the details.

I've been wondering about this too.

But really, who wants to be the messenger in this scenario?

I've watched Ozark.

***

In the end I think @Cathy Ames (?) said it above: LE probably has plenty of info on D. They probably know what to look for, but it's just not worth the effort (money) to try and shut down D as supplier.
He would just pop back up somewhere else.

These seizures and visits have mostly the goal to deter potential clients. Just tamping down the flames a little.

A lawmaker asked the Dept of Justice to investigate this website so it's possible they are helping to disrupt means and communication.

Trahan Leads Bipartisan Call for Action to Stop "Sanctioned Suicide" Website

Trahan Leads Bipartisan Call for Action to Stop “Sanctioned Suicide” Website

trahan.house.gov

Seems other lawmakers are urging action as well...

Lawmakers call on tech firms to take threat of suicide site seriously, limit its visibility

Congressional lawmakers are calling on technology companies to take the threat of websites that promote suicide seriously and limit their visibility after The New York Times published an investigat…

thehill.com

You'd think they have their hands full with the Jan 6 commission…

 

[lostmylove]

Tell them to rot in hell and produce a warrant