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[J031]

just wondering what percentage of the people here are religious.

 

[FuneralCry]

I'm a atheist. I believe we are only here because of evolution. There is no evidence that any God exists. The afterlife is a fictional concept and I believe that we return to the same nothingness where we were at before we were born, after we die.

 

[nex]

Atheist. Used to be agnostic and even religious/spiritual at earlier times in my life. But the more I thought about it, the more I discussed it, the more I became convinced of atheism.

 

[Shadowplay]

It surprises me there are Christians here; no judgment on my part, but isn't CTB against your religion? Genuinely curious.

 

[Seiba]

It surprises me there are Christians here; no judgment on my part, but isn't CTB against your religion? Genuinely curious.

An atheist myself but I don't really think it's mentioned too much. if you google a concrete statement biblically on the act of suicide you won't find one, people just try to infer that a decent amount. that aside tons of things like not having sex before marriage, raping a woman and then paying her dad money to marry her, how to treat your slaves and so on. People have generally moved on from the bible, even Christians and most of them think they're to be forgiven. I rarely see religious posters so I figure most of them are lurkers.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

An atheist myself but I don't really think it's mentioned too much. if you google a concrete statement biblically on the act of suicide you won't find one, people just try to infer that a decent amount. that aside tons of things like not having sex before marriage, raping a woman and then paying her dad money to marry her, how to treat your slaves and so on. People have generally moved on from the bible, even Christians and most of them think they're to be forgiven. I rarely see religious posters so I figure most of them are lurkers.

Religion in general disgusts me. It is just used to control people. With false promises of a better afterlife if you obey and eternal punishment if you don't. Hell already exists and we are currently living it.

 

[lostundead]

It surprises me there are Christians here; no judgment on my part, but isn't CTB against your religion? Genuinely curious.

Maybe they could jump off a roof and repent while falling

 

[ClownMe]

Atheist. I don't judge people for being religious as long as it makes them better people and they don't try to force their religious beliefs onto other people. If it comforts people that there is an afterlife and a God then that's good for them but I don't see why, if there was a God (or higher power) they would make people suffer so greatly, if he/she is real then they're the biggest asshole to ever exist.

 

[SentientCreature]

I always describe myself as an agnostic when asked as it fully removes the burden of proof and isn't something that one can be wrong about. I don't think that we're fully capable of suspending belief though, even when we're aware that we cannot justify or confirm it empirically, so my personal beliefs align with atheism.

I think that atheism and theism are the only mutually exclusive doctrines here.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

It surprises me there are Christians here; no judgment on my part, but isn't CTB against your religion? Genuinely curious.

The only unforgivable sin in Christianity is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit"

 

[Shadowplay]

An atheist myself but I don't really think it's mentioned too much. if you google a concrete statement biblically on the act of suicide you won't find one, people just try to infer that a decent amount. that aside tons of things like not having sex before marriage, raping a woman and then paying her dad money to marry her, how to treat your slaves and so on. People have generally moved on from the bible, even Christians and most of them think they're to be forgiven. I rarely see religious posters so I figure most of them are lurkers.

So there is nothing in the Bible against suicide, but they're moving further away from the Bible .. sooo??? If they think suicide is to be forgiven they still think it is a sin.

The only unforgivable sin in Christianity is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit"

And the price of fish in China is.....?

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

Atheist and agnostic is the same thing, bro.

 

[Dot]

So there is nothing in the Bible against suicide, but they're moving further away from the Bible .. sooo??? If they think suicide is to be forgiven they still think it is a sin.



And the price of fish in China is.....?

Think mental health gaining more understanding in church eg depression as illness etc

 

[Seiba]

So there is nothing in the Bible against suicide, but they're moving further away from the Bible .. sooo??? If they think suicide is to be forgiven they still think it is a sin.



And the price of fish in China is.....?

Not sure what you mean. I was bringing it up not being mentioned in the bible so regardless of what their opinion is it's irrelevant since there's not an objective statement on it. For moving further away from the bible I meant that in this world they're not even letting the morals in that are commanded or outright laws to matter too much to them. So, from their perspective it either doesn't matter or can be forgiven. Hence why they can be on a suicide forum. Sorry if I wasn't coherent.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

And the price of fish in China is.....?

No idea. How is that relevant?

 

[TheHatedOne]

I'm somewhere between atheist and agnostic, if a god really exists he is a psychopathic and sadistic mothafucka.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Atheist and agnostic is the same thing, bro.

they are similar but atheism is a definitive belief that god or whatever does not exist. agnosticism is not really having any solid beliefs about it.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

they are similar but atheism is a definitive belief that god or whatever does not exist.

Wrong, atheism is simply the lack of a belief.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Wrong, atheism is simply the lack of a belief.

they still aren't the same thing. agnosticism is "having an open mind"

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

they still aren't the same thing. agnosticism is "having an open mind"

Agnosticism is the belief that we don't know. Which ends up in atheism, hence my first post.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Agnosticism is the belief that we don't know. Which ends up in atheism, hence my first post.

atheism is a FIRM belief. agnosticism is the belief that there may or may not be a "god". just google it...

 

[deflationary]

Eh, people use words in various ways. Atheism can mean both lack of belief in God as well as positive belief in the nonexistence of God, depending on context and who's speaking.

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

atheism is a FIRM belief. agnosticism is the belief that there may or may not be a "god". just google it...

Please just read what I said again. I am right about this (and double checked everything just now, since you seemed very confident).

Eh, people use words in various ways. Atheism can mean both lack of belief in God as well as positive belief in the nonexistence of God, depending on context and who's speaking.

Hard atheism/soft atheism, you mean? I ignore hard atheism altogether since it's ridiculous to claim that unfalsifiable things are false. Either way, there's no real difference imo between all the types of agnosticism/atheism. You don't believe in God(s) due to there being no good evidence, done and done.

 

[Dot]

Please just read what I said again. I am right about this (and double checked everything just now, since you seemed very confident).

Hard atheism/soft atheism, you mean? I ignore hard atheism altogether since it's ridiculous to claim that unfalsifiable things are false. Either way, there's no real difference imo between all the types of agnosticism/atheism. You don't believe in God(s) due to there being no good evidence, done and done.

What’s The Difference Between Atheism And Agnosticism?

Atheism and Agnosticism get mixed up a lot when the question of divine existence comes up. How familiar are you with the difference between them, pray tell?

www.dictionary.com

 

[deflationary]

Hard atheism/soft atheism, you mean? I ignore hard atheism altogether since it's ridiculous to claim that unfalsifiable things are false. Either way, there's no real difference imo between all the types of agnosticism/atheism. You don't believe in God(s) due to there being no good evidence, done and done.

Yeah, I don't disagree on agnosticism, I've never really found it a useful term. But people do use the word atheism in different ways. Merriam-Webster says atheism is:
"a: a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
b: a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods"

 

[fox_wannabe]

Gnostic /buddhist

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

What’s The Difference Between Atheism And Agnosticism?

Atheism and Agnosticism get mixed up a lot when the question of divine existence comes up. How familiar are you with the difference between them, pray tell?

www.dictionary.com

]Atheist vs. agnostic

There is a key distinction. An atheist doesn't believe in a god or divine being. The word originates with the Greek atheos, which is built from the roots a- ("without") and theos ("a god"). Atheism is the doctrine or belief that there is no god.

However, an agnostic neither believes nor disbelieves in a god or religious doctrine. Agnostics assert that it's impossible for human beings to know anything about how the universe was created and whether or not divine beings exist.

These definitions are a little ridiculous. Atheism is not a belief or a doctrine (if you use a sensible definition, not that one). You can't neither believe nor disbelieve at the same time, either you have a belief (theism) or you don't (atheism/agnosticism). If someone says they're not sure, then they lack a belief per definition.

With things unrelated to unfalsifiable claims and unconfirmable myths we can be unsure and place levels of confidence, but not really with this.

 

[cooldude420]

suicides in bible - samson, saul, jonah. sum of thoose suicide view good n some bad. it much later that church say suicid bad. me think augustine.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

Please just read what I said again. I am right about this (and double checked everything just now, since you seemed very confident).

Hard atheism/soft atheism, you mean? I ignore hard atheism altogether since it's ridiculous to claim that unfalsifiable things are false. Either way, there's no real difference imo between all the types of agnosticism/atheism. You don't believe in God(s) due to there being no good evidence, done and done.

yes YOUR "opinion". you are arguing with your opinions and not actual definitions. there is where you went WRONG in the first place. and yes i am very confident. do confident women bother you by any chance? just asking..

 

[GenesAndEnvironment]

yes YOUR "opinion". you are arguing with your opinions and not actual definitions. there is where you went WRONG in the first place.

Agree to disagree, then.