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I know Pegasos. Pegasos is a serious accociation ! Stop spreading false rumors. If you haven't received an answer yet, you should contact Pegasos and ask why the processing is taking so long. May be you haven´t sent in all required documents. However this forum should not be used to harm Pegasos reputation.
Hi, they will answer you. Just be patient and send an email to ask gave they received your deposit and application. Are you applying due to a physical illness?
Hi, have you applied or going to?
Some here have bern approved but those I know are not active anymore and did have severe physical illness. Would love to hear if someone approvedis here still?
Pegasos' approvals are more open-minded with quality of life being the determining factor. Application decision time 4-8 weeks. I'm still waiting for sufficient medical paperwork before applying.
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The required opinion of a third party is the worst point. This point will make it impossible for many people to get VAD. And especially if you are in full health, hardly a third party will give the ok.
Agreed, I can't imagine many conditions now that will qualify for vad under these changes. I need to start making friends with doctors...
The new regulations already apply. https://www.sams.ch/dam/jcr:3154cd58-a2bf-4d2a-b11c-27a46174bbe0/guidelines_sams_dying_and_death.pdf
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Thanks!The new regulations already apply. https://www.sams.ch/dam/jcr:3154cd58-a2bf-4d2a-b11c-27a46174bbe0/guidelines_sams_dying_and_death.pdf
You need a approval by a independent(!) third party.
The PPH is in English.
The Swiss Option Just Got Harder - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
The Swiss Option Just Got Harder because the Swiss Medical Association has changed its guidelines for doctors.
Imagine you go to your doctor and say you would like to have his independent ok for VAD. You could end up in psychiatry.
Hi, thanks for sharing! Do you happen to know more about this what I ask above? Thanks! :)The Swiss Option Just Got Harder - The Peaceful Pill Handbook
The Swiss Option Just Got Harder because the Swiss Medical Association has changed its guidelines for doctors.
I like the Sarco invention. Plus it serves as a casket for burial. My question is how is he testing the kinks before release? Haha
Overall, capacity includes several things. Some of these include: 1. Does one understand the nature of one's diagnosis, disease or illness? 2. Does one understand treatment options, if any, for said illness. 3. Does one understand what may happen if he/she decides not to take or undergo treatment? Etc. These are the basics of having mental capacity. It's just knowledge that one must fully understand before deciding that he or she has capacity. This is different than competence. Competence is somewhat similar but involves a court and judge. These are issues discussed in cases such as if someone had harmed somebody send then sent to jail. The individual may say, or their attorney, that they lacked the competence to understand their actions because of their mental state at the time of their crime. Did they understand between what is right vs wrong? So capacity has to do more with understanding things and that the person can make informed decisions even though they may detrimental to their health.
This whole thing about an independent third party is confusing me. What do they want this 3rd party to say exactly? That you understand the consequences of your actions? Does that mean it should come from a psychiatrist?
I think someone here said that pegasos relies mostly on right to die model and other vad clinics more on medical model. What does it mean in practise? You dont need to have a terminal diagnosis to get accepted by them. But we dont know how strict they are with diagnosis. Seems to me that its quite impossible to get vadif you are healthy and young. Maybe if you are really old theres a chance. But if you are under 70 looks like you need to have some illness that causes suffering but it doesnt need to be terminal. How severe illness, I dont know. This is my impression.
I thought that Pegasos didn't accept those without a medical diagnosis before but, someone else on this forum told me they did. But now with this new policy, I feel that they will require that you need one even if it's not terminal. I agree with you about this "severity" concept because who can determine your degree if pain and suffering. Also, if you have physicians who are not properly diagnosing or describing your disease, illness or impairment then you're basically screwed. Also, this third party evaluation seems strange to me. Are they expecting a physician, a lawyer or your buddy to say you are having significant decline in capacity to do things or just that you gave a "sound mind"? I don't know. I wish I could just fly over there, jump in the sarco machine end drift off.
Yes, it is confusing since the new guidelines dont share who the third party should be. They even say it doesnt need to be a physician.
You have to be 50 or older to get a witness. They might make an exception for younger folks if you have als or extremely debilitating terminal disease. Exit states age requirements on their site.
