Discussion Are we cowards to quit or is quitting the most bravest thing?

[M1sT]

People who had managed to live their life to their end or people in general get manly over saying that people who suicide are a "bunch of cowards who could not even manage to live with challenges.". Is it not okay to have consent over your own life? My guess that people who live their whole life are living in a delusion of God who to me is "Non-existent" or for someone who themselves are slave to God. These people feel themselves special meanwhile clones of them exist all over the world. We all are just pawns to God for his fight between "Hell and Heaven" which again is a trap so you keep living to get in Heaven and keep getting tortured for God's entertainment.

To me CTB'ing is harder than living cause both leads to same place but one gets you there fast at the cost of immense pain while you fill your bag of pain slowly by living.
(Its like doing all your chores at once then chilling and finding peace the rest of the day)

Please this is a genuine question and my personal opinion... please don't get angry on me for calling CTB'ing people 'Cowards' and also share your thoughts on this!

Sorry for any English mistakes if any.

 

[cosmic-joke]

It takes balls to hang yourself but also takes extreme resilience to not CTB

 

[M1sT]

It takes balls to hang yourself but also takes extreme resilience to not CTB

"You won't let me live. You won't let me die."

 

[Lulzacruel]

most humans are afraid of the unknown

to desire to enter the unknown is brave then :-)

 

[M1sT]

most humans are afraid of the unknown

to desire to enter the unknown is brave then :-)

Even the most spiritual people are doubtful of their fate so they try to stick here as long as they can. So I guess that they are the biggest cowards!

 

[Dying2077]

most humans are afraid of the unknown

to desire to enter the unknown is brave then :-)

Unknown

 

[Banshe]

Even the most spiritual people are doubtful of their fate so they try to stick here as long as they can. So I guess that they are the biggest cowards!

I mean the future is also unknown. And to go into an unknown future is also brave

 

[cosmic-joke]

Even the most spiritual people are doubtful of their fate so they try to stick here as long as they can. So I guess that they are the biggest cowards!

I died all I saw was black, I'm spiritual so that fucked with my head. I was overdosing in gbl tho so maybe that's why I saw nothing. I'm scared if death now I've died, I'm being forced to ctb

 

[Death is my goal]

i don't really care if it's a coward thing to do, as long as i achieve my goal nothing else matters.

 

[M1sT]

I died all I saw was black, I'm spiritual so that fucked with my head. I was overdosing in gbl tho so maybe that's why I saw nothing. I'm scared if death now I've died, I'm being forced to ctb

I overdosed on multiple prescription meds and got in a coma like state for 2 days... woke up cause i got found.. all i saw was pitch black darkness(maybe it was a endless black void).. I was like a zombie for a month, no clear vision, ears muffled and bad cognitive signs (speaking gibberish and stuttering).

 

[gonnaregretthis]

i think they both take bravery in a way. i think the notion that people who ctb are "cowards" is just a stigma to keep people from even thinking about it (which obviously doesnt work). it just makes people who are not in a place that theyre suicidal despise suicidal people which is not helpful at all.

 

[Conker]

bravery doesn't factor into the equation.

im just bored of this place that doesn't even feel truly alive

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[cosmic-joke]

Even the most spiritual people are doubtful of their fate so they try to stick here as long as they can. So I guess that they are the biggest cowards!

I died all I saw was black, I'm spiritual so that fucked with my head. I was overdosing in gbl tho so maybe that's why I saw nothing. I'm scared if death now I've died, I'm being forced to ct

I overdosed on multiple prescription meds and got in a coma like state for 2 days... woke up cause i got found.. all i saw was pitch black darkness(maybe it was a endless black void).. I was like a zombie for a month, no clear vision, ears muffled and bad cognitive signs (speaking gibberish and stuttering).

Same bro I couldn't speak or think for weeks I and everyone else thought I was a vegetable for life, I was gonna give up on pharmacology as a method til I found out about ddmp2

 

[M1sT]

I died all I saw was black, I'm spiritual so that fucked with my head. I was overdosing in gbl tho so maybe that's why I saw nothing. I'm scared if death now I've died, I'm being forced to ct

Same bro I couldn't speak or think for weeks I and everyone else thought I was a vegetable for life, I was gonna give up on pharmacology as a method til I found out about ddmp2

How are you gonna get Diagoxin... no way finding it online and the only way you can get it by a prescription is to fake a heart problem which is just impossible! Even if you did, you need 50mg and the 1 pill max is maybe 0.25mg, that means 200 pills which will raise suspicion at a pharmacy. Good luck tho!

 

[cosmic-joke]

How are you gonna get Diagoxin... no way finding it online and the only way you can get it by a prescription is to fake a heart problem which is just impossible! Good luck tho!

Indeed I have everything prescribed to meby chance exept the diagoxin, I found a vendor in India with it but I might just replace it with gbl

Indeed I have everything prescribed to meby chance exept the diagoxin, I found a vendor in India with it but I might just replace it with gbl

I currently have 80 propranolol 2 bottles of oramorph 30 30mg morohine sulfate tabs, 28 metoclopramide and 50 xanax(bromazolam3mg)

 

[M1sT]

Indeed I have everything prescribed to meby chance exept the diagoxin, I found a vendor in India with it but I might just replace it with gbl

I currently have 80 propranolol 2 bottles of oramorph 30 30mg morohine sulfate tabs, 28 metoclopramide and 50 xanax(bromazolam3mg)

Thats pretty cool but can you tell me more about this vendor tho since I live in India and it might be easy to get it here without getting any eyes raised?

 

[cosmic-joke]

Thats pretty cool but can you tell me more about this vendor tho since I live in India and it might be easy to get it here without getting any eyes raised?

Sure not on a open thread though and I'm a fresh account so can't pm for a couple days :/

 

[M1sT]

Sure not on a open thread though and I'm a fresh account so can't pm for a couple days :/

Np buddy
feel free whenever your pm unlocks!

 

[sserafim]

People who had managed to live their life to their end or people in general get manly over saying that people who suicide are a "bunch of cowards who could not even manage to live with challenges.". Is it not okay to have consent over your own life? My guess that people who live their whole life are living in a delusion of God who to me is "Non-existent" or for someone who themselves are slave to God. These people feel themselves special meanwhile clones of them exist all over the world. We all are just pawns to God for his fight between "Hell and Heaven" which again is a trap so you keep living to get in Heaven and keep getting tortured for God's entertainment.

To me CTB'ing is harder than living cause both leads to same place but one gets you there fast at the cost of immense pain while you fill your bag of pain slowly by living.
(Its like doing all your chores at once then chilling and finding peace the rest of the day)

Please this is a genuine question and my personal opinion... please don't get angry on me for calling CTB'ing people 'Cowards' and also share your thoughts on this!

Sorry for any English mistakes if any.

Quitting is the bravest thing because you have to take your own life and that's a really violent thing to do. You have to end your own life and inflict damage onto yourself. People who ctb are not cowards, rather, they are brave enough to leave this world

 

[cosmic-joke]

Np buddy
feel free whenever your pm unlocks!

Will do, follow me and I'll let you know

 

[sserafim]

Even the most spiritual people are doubtful of their fate so they try to stick here as long as they can. So I guess that they are the biggest cowards!

Lol I'm only here cuz I'm scared of trying to die and failing and being left with permanent damage. I wish I were brave enough to try but I just don't know if I would succeed or not. I'd hate to be left paralyzed or with brain damage from a failed attempt

 

[M1sT]

Lol I'm only here cuz I'm scared of trying to die and failing and being left with permanent damage. I wish I were brave enough to try but I just don't know if I would succeed or not. I'd hate to be left with brain damage or with brain damage from a failed attempt

Me too brother cause I don't want to be a burden to myself and most importantly my family. It would also be shameful for our family cause every relative will ask "why did he do this to himself" and tell my parents that "He deserved better" which I especially can't hear from those b*tch a** people who salted my wounds when I failed!

 

[dreamingofpeace]

It's neither bc suicide is morally neutral just like any other death. The things that cause death can be traumatic and terrible and sad but the actual act of dying doesn't automatically make u brave or cowardly it just means u were alive. I think it can be a pretty brave thing to choose to live but I also think plenty of people have been brave in their deaths and that for sure includes suicide. It's all relative. It's also str8 up just an emotion that shouldn't have the societal weight it does. It's ok to not be brave and someone dying bravely also doesn't mean the death should've happened. Plenty of other people choose to stay alive for a reason unrelated to being brave and there's nothing wrong with that. Courage ain't everything, sometimes people just get overwhelmed by the logistics of going thru with it and the fear of hurting themselves failing and that's the only reason they decide to live. U can still build on that and find other nicer reasons to live. It's all ok. U should never feel like shit for not going thru with it just as u shouldn't be looked down on if u do. It's ok to not attach being strong or weak to smth like this. I think we're all brave for going thru what we go thru and I also think bravery is overrated bc we all deserve to be happy and comfortable and safe. I hope we all find those feelings before we go. I think that would matter so much more than whether or not we were brave

 

[sserafim]

People who had managed to live their life to their end or people in general get manly over saying that people who suicide are a "bunch of cowards who could not even manage to live with challenges.". Is it not okay to have consent over your own life? My guess that people who live their whole life are living in a delusion of God who to me is "Non-existent" or for someone who themselves are slave to God. These people feel themselves special meanwhile clones of them exist all over the world. We all are just pawns to God for his fight between "Hell and Heaven" which again is a trap so you keep living to get in Heaven and keep getting tortured for God's entertainment.

To me CTB'ing is harder than living cause both leads to same place but one gets you there fast at the cost of immense pain while you fill your bag of pain slowly by living.
(Its like doing all your chores at once then chilling and finding peace the rest of the day)

Please this is a genuine question and my personal opinion... please don't get angry on me for calling CTB'ing people 'Cowards' and also share your thoughts on this!

Sorry for any English mistakes if any.

I think that there's no point in living life to the end. There's really no point in having to grow old or enter old age. There are no benefits to or good parts about aging, your body and mind just deteriorate. I think it's to prepare you for eventual death. Death is inevitable so why go through old age anyways? Personally I'd rather die young than have to enter old age. I'm planning to die young mainly to escape adulthood and having to enter the workforce and working world, but escaping old age is another plus for me.

 

[FuneralCry]

I admire those who manage to cease existing on their own terms as suicide is the prevention of futile, unnecessary suffering, I envy those who managed to overcome the difficulties involved in suicide, I certainly see those who leave as being very brave.

The whole suicide is cowardly nonsense comes from delusional, ignorant pro-lifers who lack any compassion and insensitively worship suffering, I cannot stand people like that, I see suicide as the best way to die. I will always see it as preferable to escape from all future harms in this meaningless existence that was just a dreadful mistake in the first place, only the eternity of non-existence is desirable to me, there is no benefit to the senseless cruelty and useless suffering that existence causes.

 

[fwompie]

Hit the nail on the head.
Don't have anything interesting to add, mostly wanted to comment because I keep seeing your profile picture and it's so damn cute, just wanted to say that

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's going to depend on who you speak to. We all have different ideas on what we consider brave. It also relies of course on how much you care about other people's opinions of you and your actions. I'd argue that it was also brave to defy convention. All people who CTB are defying convention.

I imagine the definition for bravery is doing something that scares you. I imagine most people are scared of the process of suicide. So much can go horribly wrong.

Of course- hanging on for the sake of others shows self sacrifice- which is also brave and very moving.

I find the whole thing odd if I'm honest. What do these people think they are going to get rewarded with because they put up with their suffering? Maybe they are religious. Who knows. Maybe they'll be laughing their heads off when I'm burning in hell.

Still- how many of us live truly brave lives? Most of us live monotonous lives. Why isn't that considered cowardly? How many people really live up to their full potential? We let so much stop us in life. If all we have to do is make it to the finish line and die of natural causes- I don't know- the bar seems to be set pretty low.

Also- people who take on extremely dangerous jobs or hobbies where there is a high probability of dying are considered brave. If you take up sky diving, they will call you brave. If you jump off a bridge, they won't. I think all any of us can do is work out what we ourselves believe.