Help Anyone willing to travel to Pegasos in Switzerland with me?

[Rubypie41]

I'm from the UK and my application with Pegasos in currently under review. If approved I would require someone to travel with me as it's Swiss law that someone can identify the body after they have passed.

Would anyone here to be willing to travel with me, expenses paid of course.

Thanks.

 

[another_creature]

Serious answer, yes. Also wondering about the process myself

 

[Mi Mi]

I'm from the UK and my application with Pegasos in currently under review. If approved I would require someone to travel with me as it's Swiss law that someone can identify the body after they have passed.

Would anyone here to be willing to travel with me, expenses paid of course.

Thanks.

So happy for you
I wish I could

 

[fallingasl33p]

Is it for physical terminal illness only? Or do they consider mental suffering due to mental illness / autism ? I tried applying I think but heard nothing.

 

[Esokabat]

I would go with you, feel free to message me

Is it for physical terminal illness only? Or do they consider mental suffering due to mental illness / autism ? I tried applying I think but heard nothing.

If you are over 50, and you can prove that your mental illness is treatment resistant and you can show medical evidence of all the treatment options you have tried, and get written opinion of your psychiatrist, psychologist, they might consider it but you need to show them decades of unsuccessful medical treatment by mental health providers. And you have to show that your treatment resistant mental health issue makes your life unbearable. As far as autism, that will not help you in getting approved alone.

 

[Rubypie41]

Thanks for the replies and offers from everyone. I will keep you posted on the progress of my application. I applied 4 weeks ago and they said approval process takes between 6-8 weeks.

 

[Rubypie41]

I'll come with you but ill die aswell is it okay

How will you do that?

 

[Orange Cat]

If you are approved, Pegasos will provide a volunteer to travel with you if you don't have anyone to come with you. It would be a lot safer than asking random people online that you don't know anything about.

 

[Rubypie41]

If you are approved, Pegasos will provide a volunteer to travel with you if you don't have anyone to come with you. It would be a lot safer than asking random people online that you don't know anything about.

That's true. They have also said I can travel alone but would need to take a dental x-ray with me at an additional cost of 1,300 CHF.

I'm just putting it out there and will decide on exactly what to do if an when I'm approved and can set a VAD date.

I'm just desperate to be honest as really struggling to get through the days right now.

 

[hadenough58]

That's true. They have also said I can travel alone but would need to take a dental x-ray with me at an additional cost of 1,300 CHF.

I'm just putting it out there and will decide on exactly what to do if an when I'm approved and can set a VAD date.

I'm just desperate to be honest as really struggling to get through the days right now.

Just hang on in there, you seem to have done the hard part and now just need to show a little patience

 

[Rubypie41]

Just hang on in there, you seem to have done the hard part and now just need to show a little patience

Thanks. It's just so hard when being tortured/tourmennted by physical conditions that are outside of my control.

I'm trying, but I guess I'm also filled with anxiety about if my application will be approved or not. If it's not approved then I dread to think where that will leave me, so the anticipation is also killing me.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

I'm from the UK and my application with Pegasos in currently under review. If approved I would require someone to travel with me as it's Swiss law that someone can identify the body after they have passed.

Would anyone here to be willing to travel with me, expenses paid of course.

Thanks.

You're from the UK. People who've travelled with friends and relatives to Switzerland from there for assisted suicide have been investigated by the police! If it wasn't so risky, I'd happily come with you, but I can't risk a police investigation!

 

[Rubypie41]

You're from the UK. People who've travelled with friends and relatives to Switzerland from there for assisted suicide have been investigated by the police! If it wasn't so risky, I'd happily come with you, but I can't risk a police investigation!

Yes, from the UK here. Not a single person has ever been prosecuted, ever. Sometimes the police will come visit anyone travelling with the person, but it's just a routine check.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Yes, from the UK here. Not a single person has ever been prosecuted, ever. Sometimes the police will come visit anyone travelling with the person, but it's just a routine check.

Okay then. I'm more convinced. I'll come if you can't find anyone else.

 

[Meteora]

If you are over 50, and you can prove that your mental illness is treatment resistant and you can show medical evidence of all the treatment options you have tried, and get written opinion of your psychiatrist, psychologist, they might consider it but you need to show them decades of unsuccessful medical treatment by mental health providers. And you have to show that your treatment resistant mental health issue makes your life unbearable. As far as autism, that will not help you in getting approved alone.

Very well summarized .

You're from the UK. People who've travelled with friends and relatives to Switzerland from there for assisted suicide have been investigated by the police! If it wasn't so risky, I'd happily come with you, but I can't risk a police investigation!

I ve never heard of that.... It s legal to travel to CH and get an evaluation....
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Do you know to which city you ll have to go? @Rubypie41

 

[Rubypie41]

Very well summarized .

I ve never heard of that.... It s legal to travel to CH and get an evaluation....
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Do you know to which city you ll have to go? @Rubypie41

Pegasos is based in Basel Switzerland.

 

[J&L383]

I would go with you, feel free to message me

If you are over 50, and you can prove that your mental illness is treatment resistant and you can show medical evidence of all the treatment options you have tried, and get written opinion of your psychiatrist, psychologist, they might consider it but you need to show them decades of unsuccessful medical treatment by mental health providers. And you have to show that your treatment resistant mental health issue makes your life unbearable. As far as autism, that will not help you in getting approved alone.

I agree with this assessment based on my research. Possible, but a lot of hoops. Much easier if you have incurable physical suffering, but does not need to be a terminal illness.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Why would I help you for free who has no right to die this way? This proves that the suicide clinics have outrageous demands.They have high prices and yet they make demands. Why do you accept it? There are other ways.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

This proves that the suicide clinics have outrageous demands.They have high prices and yet they make demands. Why do you accept it? There are other ways.

Assisted suicide is so much more pleasant than any of the 'other ways'!

 

[Rubypie41]

This proves that the suicide clinics have outrageous demands.They have high prices and yet they make demands. Why do you accept it? There are other ways.

I don't know of any other ways for a guaranteed, controlled and peaceful exit. All DIY methods are risky.

 

[Esokabat]

I do agree that Switzerland is absolutely the best option if you can get it, they organize the cremation, no chance of failure, they organize the shipment or scattering of your ashes, the death certificate is straightforward for your family. With Pegasos you don't have to drink a foul tasting substance as it is through IV, they will play your favorite music, call the police, If you have a will or estate or just even a bank account, your family can easily obtain the death certificate and then start the all the legal proceedings. It would be dream come true for me. Unfortunately I am not yet 50 and going blind alone doesn't qualify.

I don't know of any other ways for a guaranteed, controlled and peaceful exit. All DIY methods are risky.

I agree

This proves that the suicide clinics have outrageous demands.They have high prices and yet they make demands. Why do you accept it? There are other ways.

So the OP should reject a 100 per cent safe, painless, no chance to fail option just out of principals and activism, and go with DIY methods that are not 100 per cent guaranteed? Anybody with constant chronic physical suffering will choose the safe Swiss option if they have the means and get approved. If you want to be an activist, go right ahead

 

[Rubypie41]

Just to update after a heart to heart with my Brother he said he would travel with me to Switzerland if I'm approved and that's what I decide. Very emotional and heartbreaking conversation to have. I feel incredibly greatful to have the support of my brother, but also incredibly saddened.

 

[Esokabat]

Just to update after a heart to heart with my Brother he said he would travel with me to Switzerland if I'm approved and that's what I decide. Very emotional and heartbreaking conversation to have. I feel incredibly greatful to have the support of my brother, but also incredibly saddened.

Maybe tell Pegasos that you have the support of your family. Sometimes they are afraid to accept people under 50 because afterwards, their family would raise hell, start or threaten lawsuits, create drama in the media. So it is important for Pegasos to know that your family is onboard and won't cause issues afterwards

 

[Rubypie41]

Maybe tell Pegasos that you have the support of your family. Sometimes they are afraid to accept people under 50 because afterwards, their family would raise hell, start or threaten lawsuits, create drama in the media. So it is important for Pegasos to know that your family is onboard and won't cause issues afterwards

Yes, good idea. Thanks for the input. I will email Pegasos Monday and inform them of whom will be supporting and travelling with me.

 

[Illegal Preclear]

Assisted suicide is so much more pleasant than any of the 'other ways'!

Why would I help you for free who has no right to die this way? This proves that the suicide clinics have outrageous demands.They have high prices and yet they make demands. Why do you accept it? There are other ways.

To be perfectly fair, and this is just my own bizarre ass sensibilities, I would rather go out via firearm - death at the speed of sound - than lie down in a strange place waiting for Euthanasia to kick in. But I'm probably definitely in the minority with that. I actively want to make a fun brain firework.

CONGRATS IN ADVANCE THOUGH IF YOU GET APPROVED! I know that's the most desired way to go of most people here and it's incredible that you'll have such a sense of FINALITY - no room for error. I wish you an amazing journey off this Prison Planet!

 

[Rubypie41]

To be perfectly fair, and this is just my own bizarre ass sensibilities, I would rather go out via firearm - death at the speed of sound - than lie down in a strange place waiting for Euthanasia to kick in. But I'm probably definitely in the minority with that. I actively want to make a fun brain firework.

CONGRATS IN ADVANCE THOUGH IF YOU GET APPROVED! I know that's the most desired way to go of most people here and it's incredible that you'll have such a sense of FINALITY - no room for error. I wish you an amazing journey off this Prison Planet!

Thank you. I really hope to get approved but there are no guarantees.

I chose Pegasos as they give Nembutal via IV method. You fall asleep within 30 seconds and then peacefully pass away with 3 to 4 minutes.

Holding a gun to my face and pulling the trigger would scare the crap out of me, mainly for fear of getting it wrong somehow. I saw a YouTube video of someone who attempted via this method and now they walk around with practically no face. Each to their own though and you've got to go with whatever you feel comfortable with.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Thank you. I really hope to get approved but there are no guarantees.

I chose Pegasos as they give Nembutal via IV method. You fall asleep within 30 seconds and then peacefully pass away with 3 to 4 minutes.

Holding a gun to my face and pulling the trigger would scare the crap out of me, mainly for fear of getting it wrong somehow. I saw a YouTube video of someone who attempted via this method and now they walk around with practically no face. Each to their own though and you've got to go with whatever you feel comfortable with.

I hope you get approved too! You have SN as a backup though right?

 

[Rubypie41]

I hope you get approved too! You have SN as a backup though right?

Yes, I have SN and also just about everything for the DDMA method (Diazepam, Digoxin, Morphine and Amitriptyline).

I'm just scared of all DIY methods as there are no guarantees of either being peaceful or guaranteed death.

 

[suffering_mo_7]

Yes, I have SN and also just about everything for the DDMA method (Diazepam, Digoxin, Morphine and Amitriptyline).

I'm just scared of all DIY methods as there are no guarantees of either being peaceful or guaranteed death.

I am there with you on that. I ordered SN and am not only having serious concerns about having it in my possession (it being found, welfare check, etc),but I am now terrified of a failure and being more miserable. I think for those of us who are suffering physically, we realize that there are many ways to suffer even more.

How old are you? I'm happy for you to have this opportunity and have the support. My family would NEVER support this.... I'm not sure how I am going to survive all my pain and suffering long term. My life has been difficult but beautiful in many ways until about 6 months ago. Now I am in hell with it getting worse as time goes on.

 

[Rubypie41]

I am there with you on that. I ordered SN and am not only having serious concerns about having it in my possession (it being found, welfare check, etc),but I am now terrified of a failure and being more miserable. I think for those of us who are suffering physically, we realize that there are many ways to suffer even more.

How old are you? I'm happy for you to have this opportunity and have the support. My family would NEVER support this.... I'm not sure how I am going to survive all my pain and suffering long term. My life has been difficult but beautiful in many ways until about 6 months ago. Now I am in hell with it getting worse as time goes on.

Hi, I'm 41 and from the UK. Long term suffer (5 years) of chronic and debilitating ear conditions that have only gotten worse over time. The last 7 months have been unbearable and I'm seriously at breaking point both physically and psychological with it all.

Just getting through a day feels like getting through and entire week. I'm seriously fucked and never even knew this could happen to a person.

It's only when you're in this position that you realise how flawed and fucked up the system is that we allow people to suffer like this indefinitely. That in itself scares the fuck out of me and makes my worry, stress and anxiety of the whole situation ten times worse.

My family were totally against it at first saying I have no choice but to carry on. It's only recently after seeing me suffer immensely for so long that they have come to terms with my wishes and are now supporting me.

I'm so sorry for what you're going through, it's so fucked up to be left like this.