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"Ofcom update: Online suicide forum investigation and review of enforcement powers

Forum has made changes that block access for vast majority of UK users
• Further changes to site would impact global users, which is beyond UK jurisdiction
• This means there are no further legal routes currently available under Online Safety Act, including applying for court-ordered block
• We will closely monitor forum to check geoblock remains in place
• Ofcom and Government working to consider areas for strengthening enforcement powers
Changes made by a suicide forum located outside the UK to block access to people in the UK are the fullest extent of what can be achieved under the Online Safety Act, Ofcom has announced today.

Our enforcement action has directly resulted in this forum blocking access to people in the UK and all possible legal routes under the Act have now been exhausted.

We are working with Government to consider whether there are areas where our powers can be strengthened as part of our wider review of enforcement under the Act. In particular, we will review our powers relating to 'business disruption measures' – through which we can apply for a court order requiring internet service providers to block access to a site in the UK.


Suicide forum linked with UK deaths

The forum – reportedly linked with over 130 deaths in the UK[1] – was the first service to be investigated by Ofcom under the UK's online safety laws last year. It has been cited in multiple coroners' reports regarding the deaths of UK citizens.

Based on the evidence gathered during the course of our investigation, we found that illegal suicide content is present on the forum and has been consistently during our investigation. This includes instructional 'guides' and threads detailing different methods of suicide, some of which have been present on the site for years.

Many of these have been either pinned or reposted by the provider itself, demonstrating that it is aware of this content.


Ofcom's investigation
In May, we found the forum's provider in breach of its duties under the UK's online safety laws, because it had not taken proportionate measures to prevent UK users from encountering illegal content that intentionally encourages or assists suicide.

Although the forum previously made several changes as a result of Ofcom's enforcement action to restrict access to people in the UK – known as a 'geoblock' – we found they were not effective or consistently applied.[2]

We therefore fined the forum's provider £950,000 and directed it to come into compliance. We also advised it that we were preparing to apply for a court order to prevent access to the site in the UK in the event our concerns were not addressed.


Changes made by the forum

Since then, the forum has made a further change to its geoblock which addressed an issue we had raised with it, whereby registered UK users could still log in without a VPN. The forum has now closed this route with the effect that the vast majority of UK users who do not use a VPN to mask their country location are now no longer able to access the site.

We recognise that geoblocks do not fully eliminate all risk of harm, especially for individuals who choose to access sites through VPNs and use them to mask their country location. We are also aware of a very small number of existing registered users of the forum who, for technical reasons that do not appear linked to the provider's implementation of the geoblock, are still able to access the site from the UK without using a VPN.

However, for the vast majority of UK users, the forum is no longer accessible.


All powers exhausted

We have not identified any additional changes the provider should make that would materially further block access to people in the UK without impacting users globally.

The Online Safety Act only extends to the design, operation and use of a service in the UK or as it affects UK users – we cannot regulate worldwide use of platforms. The legal grounds are therefore not met to ask a court to require internet service providers to block UK access to the site.

For Ofcom to be able to apply to a court for business disruption measures, it is not enough to show that a site poses a significant risk of harm to people in the UK – there has to be ongoing non-compliance as well. We do not have the legal powers to apply for a business disruption order for failure to pay a fine alone.

Ofcom considered applying for a 'conditional order' – essentially a pre-emptive court order that would become effective automatically in the event a site removes its geoblock – but the Act does not provide a mechanism to do so. And neither Ofcom nor the UK courts have the power through the business disruption measure process to 'shut down' a website globally.

While, in a narrow set of circumstances, failure to comply with obligations in the Act can give rise to criminal liability, this is not one of them and we cannot pursue criminal proceedings in this case.

This means all possible legal routes under the Act have now been exhausted.

We will continue to closely monitor whether this forum is being made available for users in the UK as a priority, to check the geoblock remains in place. Should this not remain the case, we will take rapid action.

Suzanne Cater, Director of Enforcement at Ofcom, said: "This nihilistic suicide forum, and the predators who use it to prey on some of the most vulnerable people in our society, have devastated lives and inflicted immeasurable heartbreak.

"We have the utmost respect for the tireless efforts of bereaved families seeking justice and better protections for others, and we're grateful for their help during our investigation.

"We've used the powers we've been granted to the fullest extent possible, which has resulted in blocking this site for the vast majority of users in the UK. We recognise this may not bring closure for bereaved families but it will help protect people in the UK in the future. We'll continue to monitor the forum closely to check the geoblock remains in place."


Additional action taken to protect UK users

Tackling the devastating harm caused by this forum requires a coordinated effort from law enforcement, policy-makers, regulators and companies across the tech industry. We have been exploring a number of options to protect people in the UK.

Following our investigation, major search engines have removed links to this forum.

In addition, we have been working with UK internet service providers (ISPs) to make clear that our net neutrality guidance does not prevent them from including suicide material in their content filters. We have written to the relevant ISPs today to confirm this.


Review of enforcement powers

We can only take action using the powers we have been granted and any changes to these powers would be a matter for Government and Parliament.

We are working with Government to consider whether the business disruption powers can be strengthened to make them more effective and deployable, while maintaining robust safeguards to ensure they continue to afford the right protection of freedom of expression and other fundamental rights.


Unpaid fine

This suicide forum had until 12 June to pay its fine, and we have not received payment. If a company fails to pay a fine, we will pursue recovery of that debt wherever possible, regardless of where the firm is based. The steps for this recovery action vary depending on where in the world the company has assets.

If it has assets in the UK – as the biggest tech companies typically do – the process is relatively straightforward. It would usually involve going through UK courts to seek judgments and orders for bailiffs to seize and sell UK assets in order to satisfy a debt.

If a company does not have assets in the UK, the process is more complex. It may involve engaging enforcement agencies and private specialists in other countries, and can depend on whether a court in another country will recognise a UK judgment, and whether we can identify individuals on whom we can serve proceedings.

The suicide forum's provider is based in the US, and we have initiated work regarding the pursuit of this debt, as we have done with all companies that have not paid their fines by their deadlines.

We have published more information on what we can do – and are doing – more broadly to pursue recovery of unpaid fines here.

Notes to editors:

  1. Molly Rose Foundation
  2. We have always been clear that providers can choose to prevent people in the UK from accessing their sites, such as by restricting access from UK IP addresses – known as a 'geoblock' – instead of putting safety measures in place to protect UK users."


 
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Lost in a Dream

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Feb 22, 2020
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So stupid that the content on this forum is labeled as illegal merely because it helps people escape from a life of misery and pain. The forced life assholes who continue to "investigate" this site (and by that I mean intentionally misrepresent it and lie about it just so they can enforce their forced life slavery) don't actually care about protecting the users on here, in reality, they just care about money. If the people against this site truly cared about the users here they would support our right to die and legalize peaceful methods and euthanasia for everyone, but unfortunately governments won't do that because they're afraid of losing their precious taxpayers because at the end of the day, they care more about profiting off of people than they do about ending their suffering.

If it were up to me, I would contact Ofcom and tell them to take their fine and shove it up their assholes where it came from. Seriously, fuck those guys.
 
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Surek

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Aug 26, 2025
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A summary of what Ofcom says:
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Aflame5926

Aflame5926

le tired
Apr 3, 2026
846
yeah they should open the track.

because goverment aren't ready for it. yet they spend miljoens of pounds on this. which could have used to improve healthcare imho.

they really need to look into the mirror and look why people are suicidal in the first place
 
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Fadenself00_

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So stupid that the content on this forum is labeled as illegal merely because it helps people escape from a life of misery and pain. The forced life assholes who continue to "investigate" this site (and by that I mean intentionally misrepresent it and lie about it just so they can enforce their forced life slavery) don't actually care about protecting the users on here, in reality, they just care about money. If the people against this site truly cared about the users here they would support our right to die and legalize peaceful methods and euthanasia for everyone, but unfortunately governments won't do that because they're afraid of losing their precious taxpayers because at the end of the day, they care more about profiting off of people than they do about ending their suffering.

If it were up to me, I would contact Ofcom and tell them to take their fine and shove it up their assholes where it came from. Seriously, fuck those guys.
Yes, respect autonomy of the individual and what about maybe offering better help that does respect the human right to die and makes it accessible in a peaceful way if continued to be desired. Humans should stop trying to own other humans. Even if it's a shock for relatives, they would need to deal with the fact that it's not their life
 
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Changes made by the forum

Since then, the forum has made a further change to its geoblock which addressed an issue we had raised with it, whereby registered UK users could still log in without a VPN. The forum has now closed this route with the effect that the vast majority of UK users who do not use a VPN to mask their country location are now no longer able to access the site.

We recognise that geoblocks do not fully eliminate all risk of harm, especially for individuals who choose to access sites through VPNs and use them to mask their country location. We are also aware of a very small number of existing registered users of the forum who, for technical reasons that do not appear linked to the provider's implementation of the geoblock, are still able to access the site from the UK without using a VPN.

However, for the vast majority of UK users, the forum is no longer accessible.
what how do they bypass a geoblock???? am i missing something??
 
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Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
2,167
Also the Molly Rose foundation is trash too. I tried to contact them and tell them to get fucked but they want my phone number and email address. FUCK THAT!

Those people don't truly care about the people who ended their lives after coming here, they are just virtue signaling and pretending to give a shit so they can participate in the enforcement of forced life slavery. If they were truly honest about their intentions, they would call themselves the ForcedLife Foundation.
 
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Hvergelmir

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May 5, 2024
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This is so backward. A website is not pushed onto a country. It's deliberately fetched.
This ought to be on the ISP, or even a national firewall. If they don't want the content of the Internet, they shouldn't provide unfiltered access to the Internet.

I'm a bit disappointed that they get any compliance at all.
This is aggressively authoritarian measures, hidden by instead of blocking, pressuring website operators in other countries to do it for them.
 
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tonicer

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Nov 13, 2025
470
Man these fascist governments really love to keep the people down and limit their freedom. I hope that changes soon and you lovely Brits have freedom of speech back.
 
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Aflame5926

Aflame5926

le tired
Apr 3, 2026
846
wait are they talking about mirror meaning TOR?

that would be so stupid if they use a tor mirror as a way to gain access to it ....
 
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never mind me

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Nov 7, 2022
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It is so shameful for a country that prides itself in protecting the freedom of its citizens to try to limit free access to information. This is nothing but censorship. I really hate them. Just the same way I hate all governments for punishing recreational drug use. The governments of liberal Western democracies always act like everybody is free to do as they please as long as they don't harm others, but in reality that freedom stops as soon as you are doing something that affects your ability to be useful as a wageslave for society.
 
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Echo

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The thing that stood out to me from reading that was
" illegal content" ?? We're not pushing each other to ctb. Nor is suicide illegal here. Our country is fucked in all ways, not just in this scenario.
And I hope this site does not cough up the fine either.
 
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May 5, 2026
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It is so shameful for a country that prides itself in protecting the freedom of its citizens to try to limit free access to information. This is nothing but censorship. I really hate them. Just the same way I hate all governments for punishing recreational drug use. The governments of liberal Western democracies always act like everybody is free to do as they please as long as they don't harm others, but in reality that freedom stops as soon as you are doing something that affects your ability to be useful as a wageslave for society.
I'd have to add, "as long as they don't harm others" only applies to other humans anyway - harming other species, even mass murder, is perfectly legal and even sanctioned by local governments. It's a bit of a tangent here, but it's the reason why I'm here after all, because the ones I considered my only family have been brutally murdered. Instead of forcing humans to stay alive no matter what, even against their will, they should rather protect other sentient beings who want to live from mass murder!
 
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fadedghost

Found SaSu after reading BBC & watching YouTube
Dec 10, 2025
866
what how do they bypass a geoblock???? am i missing something??
Geoblocks are based on data that determines what country an IP belongs to and sometimes that data can be out of date or incorrect. It is usually an extremely small amount of the data that is incorrect. To implement a geoblock, often the site either uses cloudflare to geoblock using their IP data or they use some other list and just query the lsit. So what Ofcom means is it's theoretically possible for a UK user's IP address that shows as being in a different country due to an error in the data wouldn't be blocked. But Ofcom has a remedy for this: they can block the site at the ISP level. Doing so would not block VPNs, but it could create liability for ISPs who do not host their own DNS service and block the site based on DNS. It's trivial to bypass such a DNS block, however, and would cost a lot of money to implement and enforce, so they likely won't do anything since it will have almost no effect and impact almost no one or possibly no one.

Ofcom could also using DNS logging at the ISP level to log anyone who tried to access this site at the ISP level and redirect them to the Samaritans page. I don't know if it would help. I think Ofcom and people who have lost loved ones who have visited this site really want the narrative of "Young Johnny was a happy teen who liked sports, church, and school, but then he found SaSu and realized immediately he needed to end it all" and most people who find this site have thought about suicide a lot before finding the site. But also, there are sometimes younger people who come to this site at 18 or 19 etc and probably should try harder to get better before considering suicide. If the UK adopted legalized euthenasia like The Netherlands for people who were suicidal, then suicidal people in the UK would frequently go to the government for help with suicide and then it could be determined whether they had tried to get better. But they don't do this.
 
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It is so shameful for a country that prides itself in protecting the freedom of its citizens to try to limit free access to information. This is nothing but censorship. I really hate them. Just the same way I hate all governments for punishing recreational drug use. The governments of liberal Western democracies always act like everybody is free to do as they please as long as they don't harm others, but in reality that freedom stops as soon as you are doing something that affects your ability to be useful as a wageslave for society.
Freedom is an illusion.
 
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"Ofcom update: Online suicide forum investigation and review of enforcement powers

Forum has made changes that block access for vast majority of UK users
• Further changes to site would impact global users, which is beyond UK jurisdiction
• This means there are no further legal routes currently available under Online Safety Act, including applying for court-ordered block
• We will closely monitor forum to check geoblock remains in place
• Ofcom and Government working to consider areas for strengthening enforcement powers
Changes made by a suicide forum located outside the UK to block access to people in the UK are the fullest extent of what can be achieved under the Online Safety Act, Ofcom has announced today.

Our enforcement action has directly resulted in this forum blocking access to people in the UK and all possible legal routes under the Act have now been exhausted.

We are working with Government to consider whether there are areas where our powers can be strengthened as part of our wider review of enforcement under the Act. In particular, we will review our powers relating to 'business disruption measures' – through which we can apply for a court order requiring internet service providers to block access to a site in the UK.


Suicide forum linked with UK deaths

The forum – reportedly linked with over 130 deaths in the UK[1] – was the first service to be investigated by Ofcom under the UK's online safety laws last year. It has been cited in multiple coroners' reports regarding the deaths of UK citizens.

Based on the evidence gathered during the course of our investigation, we found that illegal suicide content is present on the forum and has been consistently during our investigation. This includes instructional 'guides' and threads detailing different methods of suicide, some of which have been present on the site for years.

Many of these have been either pinned or reposted by the provider itself, demonstrating that it is aware of this content.


Ofcom's investigation
In May, we found the forum's provider in breach of its duties under the UK's online safety laws, because it had not taken proportionate measures to prevent UK users from encountering illegal content that intentionally encourages or assists suicide.

Although the forum previously made several changes as a result of Ofcom's enforcement action to restrict access to people in the UK – known as a 'geoblock' – we found they were not effective or consistently applied.[2]

We therefore fined the forum's provider £950,000 and directed it to come into compliance. We also advised it that we were preparing to apply for a court order to prevent access to the site in the UK in the event our concerns were not addressed.


Changes made by the forum

Since then, the forum has made a further change to its geoblock which addressed an issue we had raised with it, whereby registered UK users could still log in without a VPN. The forum has now closed this route with the effect that the vast majority of UK users who do not use a VPN to mask their country location are now no longer able to access the site.

We recognise that geoblocks do not fully eliminate all risk of harm, especially for individuals who choose to access sites through VPNs and use them to mask their country location. We are also aware of a very small number of existing registered users of the forum who, for technical reasons that do not appear linked to the provider's implementation of the geoblock, are still able to access the site from the UK without using a VPN.

However, for the vast majority of UK users, the forum is no longer accessible.


All powers exhausted

We have not identified any additional changes the provider should make that would materially further block access to people in the UK without impacting users globally.

The Online Safety Act only extends to the design, operation and use of a service in the UK or as it affects UK users – we cannot regulate worldwide use of platforms. The legal grounds are therefore not met to ask a court to require internet service providers to block UK access to the site.

For Ofcom to be able to apply to a court for business disruption measures, it is not enough to show that a site poses a significant risk of harm to people in the UK – there has to be ongoing non-compliance as well. We do not have the legal powers to apply for a business disruption order for failure to pay a fine alone.

Ofcom considered applying for a 'conditional order' – essentially a pre-emptive court order that would become effective automatically in the event a site removes its geoblock – but the Act does not provide a mechanism to do so. And neither Ofcom nor the UK courts have the power through the business disruption measure process to 'shut down' a website globally.

While, in a narrow set of circumstances, failure to comply with obligations in the Act can give rise to criminal liability, this is not one of them and we cannot pursue criminal proceedings in this case.

This means all possible legal routes under the Act have now been exhausted.

We will continue to closely monitor whether this forum is being made available for users in the UK as a priority, to check the geoblock remains in place. Should this not remain the case, we will take rapid action.

Suzanne Cater, Director of Enforcement at Ofcom, said: "This nihilistic suicide forum, and the predators who use it to prey on some of the most vulnerable people in our society, have devastated lives and inflicted immeasurable heartbreak.

"We have the utmost respect for the tireless efforts of bereaved families seeking justice and better protections for others, and we're grateful for their help during our investigation.

"We've used the powers we've been granted to the fullest extent possible, which has resulted in blocking this site for the vast majority of users in the UK. We recognise this may not bring closure for bereaved families but it will help protect people in the UK in the future. We'll continue to monitor the forum closely to check the geoblock remains in place."


Additional action taken to protect UK users

Tackling the devastating harm caused by this forum requires a coordinated effort from law enforcement, policy-makers, regulators and companies across the tech industry. We have been exploring a number of options to protect people in the UK.

Following our investigation, major search engines have removed links to this forum.

In addition, we have been working with UK internet service providers (ISPs) to make clear that our net neutrality guidance does not prevent them from including suicide material in their content filters. We have written to the relevant ISPs today to confirm this.


Review of enforcement powers

We can only take action using the powers we have been granted and any changes to these powers would be a matter for Government and Parliament.

We are working with Government to consider whether the business disruption powers can be strengthened to make them more effective and deployable, while maintaining robust safeguards to ensure they continue to afford the right protection of freedom of expression and other fundamental rights.


Unpaid fine

This suicide forum had until 12 June to pay its fine, and we have not received payment. If a company fails to pay a fine, we will pursue recovery of that debt wherever possible, regardless of where the firm is based. The steps for this recovery action vary depending on where in the world the company has assets.

If it has assets in the UK – as the biggest tech companies typically do – the process is relatively straightforward. It would usually involve going through UK courts to seek judgments and orders for bailiffs to seize and sell UK assets in order to satisfy a debt.

If a company does not have assets in the UK, the process is more complex. It may involve engaging enforcement agencies and private specialists in other countries, and can depend on whether a court in another country will recognise a UK judgment, and whether we can identify individuals on whom we can serve proceedings.

The suicide forum's provider is based in the US, and we have initiated work regarding the pursuit of this debt, as we have done with all companies that have not paid their fines by their deadlines.

We have published more information on what we can do – and are doing – more broadly to pursue recovery of unpaid fines here.

Notes to editors:

  1. Molly Rose Foundation
  2. We have always been clear that providers can choose to prevent people in the UK from accessing their sites, such as by restricting access from UK IP addresses – known as a 'geoblock' – instead of putting safety measures in place to protect UK users."


"Oh look at me I am a very good person and my country is a very good country because we are against a suicide forum, those families are suffering so much" and may I know what you did about the suffering of those using this forum? let me guess, nothing? You offered useless therapy that already failed? "lets try again this therapy that we already know is not working 🤡 lets try again because I say You must, like a loop of useless therapy, like a hell" they sound like people with not only power, they sound like people with studies, then why even with studies they can't understand something like the thing I just said in this comment?
 
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iguazo falls

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the uk aint protecting shit, if they really cared theyd not have a shit postcode based healthcare system and theyd stop trying to kill and dehumanise people for needing to take a shit in a toilet. or just tormenting people for existing there in general.
 
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lastappleonearth

Пиздюк
Jun 11, 2026
178
The UK has really kinda gone wild with online censorship. I don't understand why it's so hard to realize that for some ppl this forum is the only resource they have access too. I don't exactly know how the situation is in the UK, but in a lot of countries psychological help has become pretty inaccessible and so I don't understand the need to combat this forum, it's dumb
 
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broken serenity

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They just want money... This is so gross. I'm glad to remember that everyone eventually dies anyways, no matter how much they have.
 
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