Discussion Anyone else paranoid of what comes after death?

[Doombox]

There will never be 100% evidence for obvious reasons because that is outside the reach of science.

You may be right, but who knows? Your hypothesis cannot be falsified. I just wanted to provide a counterpoint to the narrative you have constructed. Throughout history there have been many compelling narratives that have led others astray and I don't like to see unsubstantiated ideas stated as fact. I prefer to stay within the reach of science. It's calming, honestly.

 

[magician99]

You may be right, but who knows? Your hypothesis cannot be falsified. I just wanted to provide a counterpoint to the narrative you have constructed. Throughout history there have been many compelling narratives that have led others astray and I don't like to see unsubstantiated ideas stated as fact. I prefer to stay within the reach of science. It's calming, honestly.

That's fair. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. We'll never truly know the answer until we die because I see that concept beyond the reach of the current state of science.

I just feel like there are too many hints on this that can't be ignored, with the two strong hints being these facts: DMT being similiar to Near Death Experiences and Our brain releasing a large amount of DMT as we die.

Though of course, I don't want to claim my statement about the possible existence of an afterlife and realms as if it's a fact. There isn't 100% evidence for an afterlife and there probably never will be a certain answer on this with 100% evidence. It's simply outside of our reach, like many things are. Humans are very limited.

 

[ultrasharpy123456]

You've left out an important part of the verse::

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

I can't purport to know with certainty what happens if you take your own life, as I often have this fear myself. But the Bible does say that suicide is a sin like any other and once you're saved, you're his forever. The only unforgivable/unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I do believe in a loving and forgiving God, so I can only hope he takes pity on those that can't endure anymore suffering on this earth.

I watch this pastor online and he says things like you can fall out grace. He says there are Christians that even go to hell. I'm not saying you're wrong but to be honest I have no idea what's going to happen to me and I'm frankly terrified.

 

[MusicGuy]

I'm personally not religious but I can't help but fear whatever comes after death. Maybe it's because I know that once it's done it's done and I can't ever take it back once it's finished. Logically I know that most likely there's nothing after death but it still freaks me out. I can't believe it's gotten to this point.

The only thing I actually fear about death is being forgotten, my friends forgetting me, my close family dying and then my family forgetting me... The list goes on and on, death itself doesn't scare me, it's just the fact of not existing. But I guess that's what life is. You just exist and then you don't, the time you spend here doesn't really matter

 

[theRetroHawk]

I used to be paranoid but I think that's because I wanted my soul to go somewhere, I guess I wasn't bad off enough to want to completely lose my self. I think i just basically wanted to escape my current reality. now I feel much more on the page of I don't love myself enough to want to continue to exist I just want the pain to cease

 

[CrazyDiamond04]

I think it's completely horrible if the universe has a way to recycle our consciousness, we'd be stuck in this hell forever, we're lab rats of the universe.

This wouldn't be that bad. If this were true you'd be an entirely new person/organism each reincarnation, unaware of your previous reincarnations. If life is mostly a crapshoot then this is just the equivalent of spinning the wheel again.

 

[enough of this]

I'm personally not religious but I can't help but fear whatever comes after death. Maybe it's because I know that once it's done it's done and I can't ever take it back once it's finished. Logically I know that most likely there's nothing after death but it still freaks me out. I can't believe it's gotten to this point.

I'm not religious, either. But it doesn't seem to matter if someone is or isn't. When people die and are resuscitated, they report wonderful tales which defy belief. I believe there IS no such thing as "death," and that the concept of it is just an artifact of this physical reality, like time and space. It's not that there's nothing after death, there's everything after death. When the impediments to all that we are, are lifted through the death of our physical bodies, it's as though we wake up from this nightmare of life into our true reality. This is what the near-death experiencers say about it. I am so looking forward to having that experience. No more pain or concerns. Just whatever we wish to manifest from our consciousness, which survives physical death.

 

[cami]

i just hold onto hope that no matter what it is, it will be peaceful or loving.

 

[dimstar]

I think everyone wonders, but no one can say for sure.

My take is this it's nothing, or atleast nothing we will experience or remember.

Do you remember what it was like before you were born? No it was just nothing. So I think we will return to nothing. It comforts me, hope it comforts some of you.

 

[IDIABUSE]

I don't. Although I have some sort of memory where I was in some sort of plane (astral?) and I saw blue transparent doors. After I chose to go through one of the doors, the next memory I remember is one where I was already ~3 years old,that was when I was first fully aware of the things around me. To this day, I can't tell if what I experienced was before I was born, or just a dream.

Not to mention that there are so many stories of people who have glimpse of memories of their past lives.

Some people seem to remember stuff that happend before they were born.

You know, I respect that. Well there is one thing that I'm certain of, if your brain is destroyed by a shotgun before your brain releases DMT, you'll probably end up in a black void of nothingness but you wouldn't be able to experience it either way, just like time didn't matter to us before we were born even though it were billions of years.

Which is why I will ctb by hanging, so I'll get to "experience" what the large amount of DMT my brain releases as I die, does to me. My mind is open. Either I'll go where I believe I'll go, or I'll go back to the moment before I was born.

Considering that:

• NDEs can take catholic people and atheists to all kinds of places
• The effects of DMT are similar to NDEs
• Our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die

I'm certain that Law of Attraction is the answer to all of this. The people who believe that they will meet their loved ones after they die, saw their loved ones in their Near Death Experience, and the people who believe that nothing happens after they die, were in a black void in their Near Death Experience.

If you believe that "_____" happens after death, then it happens to you.

If you believe that you'll go to "_____" after death, then that's where you will go.

I stand by that point. Either way, it's a win-win for me.

Things are getting complicated now. I now have access to an AK47 and a shotgun. But can Also get 15 grams of fentanyl and benzos.


If using purely drugs, you will be so sedated from benzos and opiates you won't notice any supposed dmt, and BTW I have done dmt powder, both white and yellow variants, intense but still so different from lucid dreams which are vastly different from DXM or ketamine "hole" trips, so similar but so different.


Either way a shotgun or fentanyl+benzoyl Megadose 3k worth of drugs both get us to the same place?


I wonder if swallowing those drugs before the blast to head or just blast alone will be equally as painless. Or just the drugs alone. Probably want some SN along with it if you got damn good anti Emetics.


I really don't remember any Astral experience (that I can remember) before being born, we don't really start remembering things till after age 3-5 iirc. If there was anything I sure do not remember it.


Don't torture yourself by hanging. Get a shotgun or high power rifle or thousands worth of fetty and benzos. Smoke dmt before you do it I guess.


Either way it's not even a blackness, to experience blackness you need awareness. It's true nothingness beyond all understanding. Before you were born is the best way to understand it, it seems.



I just hope all the troubles I go through to get there are worth it! If you want dmt just order some off the dnm. Plenty there.


Let your death be fast and painless.

 

[magician99]

Things are getting complicated now. I now have access to an AK47 and a shotgun. But can Also get 15 grams of fentanyl and benzos.

The method is up to you to choose. Choose the method you're most comfortable with using, one where you know that you will end up ctb.

If using purely drugs, you will be so sedated from benzos and opiates you won't notice any supposed dmt

Well I won't use benzos nor opiates, so I'm good.

and BTW I have done dmt powder, both white and yellow variants, intense but still so different from lucid dreams which are vastly different from DXM or ketamine "hole" trips, so similar but so different

Yeah, I read tons of experiences of people who had DMT trips.

Either way a shotgun or fentanyl+benzoyl Megadose 3k worth of drugs both get us to the same place?

I mean, dead is dead. The only differences would be 1)the method and 2)the fact that your brain won't release DMT upon your death because if you blast your brain with a shotgun, it's gg.

Since my method is hanging, the release of DMT will happen.

I wonder if swallowing those drugs before the blast to head or just blast alone will be equally as painless

I can't tell. Never died before.

Or just the drugs alone. Probably want some SN along with it if you got damn good anti Emetics

You'll find some threads on here that go into this. I myself know nothing about SN.

I really don't remember any Astral experience (that I can remember) before being born, we don't really start remembering things till after age 3-5 iirc. If there was anything I sure do not remember it

That's why I said "it depends on the person". I only had some sort of "memory" where I saw transparent blue doors, went through one of them, and then ended up here.

There are many people who have had glimpse of memories of their past lives, where they remember stuff that happend in their past lives. Though that never happend to me, so it varies from person to person. I guess it would explain the "Déjà Vu" feeling we have sometimes.

Don't torture yourself by hanging. Get a shotgun or high power rifle or thousands worth of fetty and benzos. Smoke dmt before you do it I guess

I don't have a gun license and I'm broke. Hanging is the only method available to me. And if you find the sweet spot, hanging is not really torture, you'll quickly lose consciousness after seconds.

Either way it's not even a blackness, to experience blackness you need awareness. It's true nothingness beyond all understanding. Before you were born is the best way to understand it, it seems

Like I said, depends on the person. NDes had different people, catholic and non catholic, experience being in all kinds of different places; a place where one person felt loved, a place where the other person felt scared, a place where another person felt nothing and was in a black void, a place where another person reunited with their loved ones, etc.

Since the effects of DMT are similar to NDEs and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, then what we believe happens after death, manifests the afterlife. Law of Attraction.

I just hope all the troubles I go through to get there are worth it!

We'll have to wait and see. Actually, no, I will 100% ctb before this year ends.

If you want dmt just order some off the dnm. Plenty there.

I can't.

Let your death be fast and painless.

It will be.

 

[IDIABUSE]

The method is up to you to choose. Choose the method you're most comfortable with using, one where you know that you will end up ctb.

Well I won't use benzos nor opiates, so I'm good.

Yeah, I read tons of experiences of people who had DMT trips.

I mean, dead is dead. The only differences would be 1)the method and 2)the fact that your brain won't release DMT upon your death because if you blast your brain with a shotgun, it's gg.

Since my method is hanging, the release of DMT will happen.

I can't tell. Never died before.

You'll find some threads on here that go into this. I myself know nothing about SN.

That's why I said "it depends on the person". I only had some sort of "memory" where I saw transparent blue doors, went through one of them, and then ended up here.

There are many people who have had glimpse of memories of their past lives, where they remember stuff that happend in their past lives. Though that never happend to me, so it varies from person to person. I guess it would explain the "Déjà Vu" feeling we have sometimes.

I don't have a gun license and I'm broke. Hanging is the only method available to me. And if you find the sweet spot, hanging is not really torture, you'll quickly lose consciousness after seconds.

Like I said, depends on the person. NDes had different people, catholic and non catholic, experience being in all kinds of different places; a place where one person felt loved, a place where the other person felt scared, a place where another person felt nothing and was in a black void, a place where another person reunited with their loved ones, etc.

Since the effects of DMT are similar to NDEs and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, then what we believe happens after death, manifests the afterlife. Law of Attraction.

We'll have to wait and see. Actually, no, I will 100% ctb before this year ends.

I can't.

It will be.

Its weird how simply believing that I'll have more money than I can ever spend on top of more heroin and dextrorphan (active dxm metabolite) than I can ever use will guarantee that I'll get it. I'm sure I've experienced death from accidentally overdose. It was nothingness beyond any and all understanding, but I was atheist (or agnostic?) At the time. Perhaps that dmt we release is a coping mechanism. You must be aware though. If we had true coping mechanisms then why don't we release endogenous opioids and benzos along with dissociatives? Mu receptor agonists, GABA agonists, and NMDA both and perhaps AMPA antagonists?

However people who experienced NDEs say it is much more like DXM (DXO) or ketamine than DMT though. More dissociative than psychedelic. And I've experienced DXM trips at 900mg to induce a real spirit coming out of body effect floating through the roof and seeing the night stars, and enough DMT to see fractals and weird entities. Everything in between too. I was the most hard-core drug obsessed person you could ever know.


do you have comprehensive detailed experience with those classes of drugs? Opiates, benzos, NMDA antagonists? Ever tried smoking DMT? 5HT2a agonists like Lsd? Mushrooms? DMT is also a 5ht2a agonist but caused a great spike in blood pressure. Then there is 5-MeO-DMT (risky) There's a lot more like amanita mushrooms too, then methamphetamine, alcohol, etc..


Hard to believe what I believe is what I get, I believe, almost the opposite actually at least when your dependent on other people.



You think worst case scenario if all I can use is a shotgun will the destruction of brain matter be fast enough to not feel pain? At the right spot of course, add fentanyl and megadose bromazolam to it and you guarantee death even if you had crappy shot placement. If a slug doesn't kill the drugs you swallowed will.


But as always I think video 1444 that same area of shot should do it.


If all I can afford In a rush is benzos I'll be unconscious even if the blast from my ak47 or 12 gauge slug fails. Redundancy is always good though. How the heck could my sorry ass survive a high power firearm or powerful drug OD anyway? At least dad will be in prison (HELL on earth) for doing this to me. Even that isn't quite enough justice.


Still even an ak47 let alone a fuckin shotgun you have to be terminator or wolverine to survive such a blast.



At least we can both wish the best for each other, I wish you get what you want in The afterlife if there is one and you wish I get what I want. But so far fetched :( I don't remember anything before I was born. I just randomly become self aware born into Shit For parents.


Wish them eternal suffering for doing this to me.


But also have you ever experienced DMT by itself? Ever? Smoked? Even ketamine or DXM? Heroin?

 

[leloyon]

I sometimes start panicking over it, though nowadays I am mostly apathetic. I cannot do anything about it either way, after all, so why worry so much?

 

[benchmarker]

This is honestly the least of my worries. Let's run down the options
There is literally void but you are still somehow conscious: After a while I'm just gonna go braindead, and it'll be whatever.
Your brain literally runs on electricity, I forget the actual logic, but like everything that can be scientifically classified as your "soul" just turns into energy and goes wherever: You are literally an electron and you have ZERO responsibilities. Cool.
Any sort of religion ever: I believe in being a good neighbor and a good person, which is just about the essentials of every religion with a heaven and hell. All gods are forgiving due to them being literally all being. Truly repent for your time on earth and all the wrongdoings you've done in that time with the sympathy you hopefully have as a human and you're fine.
Your brain is very silly and actually puts u into an eternal DMT trip: Most optimal outcome. Literally imagine whatever outcome u want, and you will live it.
The entirety of life is a gacha game and you just get reincarnated: My personal favorite of them all. Let me gacha roll a 5 star life!! SS parents SS genetics SS everything!! Idk maybe you'll be born into a better life than now. I know I will no matter what.
Quantum immortality theory: The worst option in my opinion, basically any time you would have died, intentional or not, you are just tp'd to a reality in which you didn't die. This only applies to you as you are the only person you are conscious of. Look it up or something.
Brain goes sillier and your perception of time becomes null as you are facing your exact last moment, stuck in the last moment in which you are still conscious of your surroundings and still awake. Alive. Meh it could be worse. After a while you go braindead. A bit more morbid than the void reality tho.
This is just about all the outcomes I could think of. All of them are better choices than living somehow. My only fear is if I fail my attempt xd.

 

[CrazyDiamond04]

Regardless of ideology or not at all, I personally do not think there is anything to fear or be concerned for, for what may come next. If there is nothing, so be it. If there is judgement, we all make mistakes. Noone shares the same life challenges, so we all have different paths.

I believe that death is returning home after a long trip, god or what ever does exist will accept the dead with loving arms, like a mother to a child. This thought has brought peace to my mind

This would be nice. Though, with the way the world works now I'm not very confident that any God would be a forgiving or kind being.

 

[CarambaAlbum]

I grew up Roman Catholic so I had fire and brimstone drilled into me at an early age. I also consumed a lot of "based" content that was all very much "anti-degeneracy" so the fear of drowning in boiling human excrement for eternity has been plaguing my mind.

Suicide is a sin in my religion so it really feels like I'm trapped to live this life and be sent to Hell anyways for being who I am. Literally "damned if I do, damned if I don't".

 

[magician99]

Its weird how simply believing that I'll have more money than I can ever spend on top of more heroin and dextrorphan (active dxm metabolite) than I can ever use will guarantee that I'll get it. I'm sure I've experienced death from accidentally overdose. It was nothingness beyond any and all understanding, but I was atheist (or agnostic?) At the time.

I'm sorry, I don't follow?

Perhaps that dmt we release is a coping mechanism.

You mean as in making the process of death more peaceful? Perhaps. It could be both. Large amounts of DMT releases as you die->you see and/or feel things, for example, you end up in a place where you feel loved or in a place of nothingness, whatever you believe in->afterlife.

You must be aware though. If we had true coping mechanisms then why don't we release endogenous opioids and benzos along with dissociatives? Mu receptor agonists, GABA agonists, and NMDA both and perhaps AMPA antagonists?

We don't know. We know too little about how DMT is connected to all of this.

"A highly-cited 2018 study provided participants with low doses of the hallucinogenic drug N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in a controlled setting, then asked them to describe their experience. Their descriptions were uncannily similar to collected descriptions of NDEs. It turns out that DMT is widely present in the mammalian brain. In 2019, researchers at the University of Michigan not only found the compound in various locations in rat brains, but they also discovered neurons with the two enzymes required to make it. Moreover, the neurons seem to produce DMT at levels comparable to those of other key neurotransmitters like dopamine, which drives pleasure, and serotonin, which stabilizes mood. DMT has also been found in small amounts in human brain tissue and larger amounts in cerebrospinal fluid, a clear fluid that surrounds the brain and spinal cord."

However people who experienced NDEs say it is much more like DXM (DXO) or ketamine than DMT though

That's not what I've read. Studies of people who have experienced clinical death but were revived, found a common theme of a NDE. Research has suggested that the hallucinogen DMT models this NDE very similarly, suggesting that a DMT experience is like unto the final moments of an individuals life.

More dissociative than psychedelic

dissociative=causing disconnection or separation.

psychedelic=relating to or denoting drugs (especially LSD) that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.

Does a NDE of someone who ended up in a place where they felt loved and saw their loved ones, sound like a dissociative experience to you? Not to me. DMT produces effects similar to those of psychedelics, like LSD and magic mushrooms. Studies found out that the effects of DMT are similiar to that of a Near Death Experience, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die. So what I believe this means, besides the "manifesting an afterlife" thing, is that upon death, when the large amount of DMT releases, our consciousness expands to levels we are unaware of and can't explain because it's outside of the current state of science.

do you have comprehensive detailed experience with those classes of drugs? Opiates, benzos, NMDA antagonists? Ever tried smoking DMT? 5HT2a agonists like Lsd? Mushrooms? DMT is also a 5ht2a agonist but caused a great spike in blood pressure. Then there is 5-MeO-DMT (risky) There's a lot more like amanita mushrooms too, then methamphetamine, alcohol, etc..

No. Those kinds of drugs are not allowed where I live. I'm not the kind of person who would do drugs in the first place, I just did my research on it for the past couple of years by reading experiences, stories, studies, and watching a few simulation of them.

Hard to believe what I believe is what I get, I believe

If a atheist can end up in a heaven-like place during their NDE where they feel loved, despite them not even believing in God, then I don't think this follows our way of logical thinking. It's hard to believe, yes, but only because living on this godforsaken planet is like living in hell itself where we suffered so much that we became pessimistic about things that don't exist in this plane in the first place. The afterlife is a non physical plane of existence but it is not the only one. Even when putting DMT aside in the Worst Case Scenario, the afterlife could still be the astral plane or just a black void of nothingness; and both things are still better than living on this planet. I already said my piece on this:

• NDEs can take catholic people and atheists to all kinds of places
• The effects of DMT are similar to NDEs
• Our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die

If the effects of DMT are similiar to Near Death Experiences, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, then I'm 99% certain that DMT is associated with the afterlife. There will never be 100% evidence for obvious reasons because that is outside the reach of science. I don't believe in God, Jesus, or the bible, but I believe in NDEs, DMT, and the Law of Attraction, because we have evidences for these things, unlike for things like "God".

You think worst case scenario if all I can use is a shotgun will the destruction of brain matter be fast enough to not feel pain? At the right spot of course, add fentanyl and megadose bromazolam to it and you guarantee death even if you had crappy shot placement. If a slug doesn't kill the drugs you swallowed will.

With a Shotgun, as long as you place it in your mouth and raise it so that it will hit your brainstem, death is certain. Just don't put it under your chin. I don't think that the drugs will make a difference, death will be instant either way, you wouldn't even realize it.

But as always I think video 1444 that same area of shot should do it

Video 1444?

If all I can afford In a rush is benzos I'll be unconscious even if the blast from my ak47 or 12 gauge slug fails. Redundancy is always good though. How the heck could my sorry ass survive a high power firearm or powerful drug OD anyway?

I'm afraid of OD due to the possibility of surviving with a big amount of downsides like damage to the brain, kidneys, etc. Then again, with hanging, if you're found too early, you could end up in a vegetative state. Good thing that I live alone.

At least dad will be in prison (HELL on earth) for doing this to me. Even that isn't quite enough justice.

I'm sorry for the injustice that happend to you.

Still even an ak47 let alone a fuckin shotgun you have to be terminator or wolverine to survive such a blast

You could survive a shotgun blast if you place it under a chin so...don't do that.

At least we can both wish the best for each other, I wish you get what you want in The afterlife if there is one and you wish I get what I want.

I really do hope that you get what you want, whatever it is, I hope you get it.

But so far fetched :( I don't remember anything before I was born. I just randomly become self aware born into Shit For parents.

Well I just had that one memory where I was in that non-physical plane where I saw transparent blue doors, went through one of them, and then ended up here...And then there are people who have glimpse of memories of their past lives, which is something I never had. I really don't know why it's different for all of us when it comes to that.

Wish them eternal suffering for doing this to me

I am. I'm wishing eternal suffering to every abusive father, mother, and parental figure who couldn't even do the bare minimum (raising their children correctly, with love).

But also have you ever experienced DMT by itself? Ever? Smoked? Even ketamine or DXM? Heroin?

Nope.

 

[IDIABUSE]

I'm sorry, I don't follow?

You mean as in making the process of death more peaceful? Perhaps. It could be both. Large amounts of DMT releases as you die->you see and/or feel things, for example, you end up in a place where you feel loved or in a place of nothingness, whatever you believe in->afterlife.

We don't know. We know too little about how DMT is connected to all of this.

"A highly-cited 2018 study provided participants with low doses of the hallucinogenic drug N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in a controlled setting, then asked them to describe their experience. Their descriptions were uncannily similar to collected descriptions of NDEs. It turns out that DMT is widely present in the mammalian brain. In 2019, researchers at the University of Michigan not only found the compound in various locations in rat brains, but they also discovered neurons with the two enzymes required to make it. Moreover, the neurons seem to produce DMT at levels comparable to those of other key neurotransmitters like dopamine, which drives pleasure, and serotonin, which stabilizes mood. DMT has also been found in small amounts in human brain tissue and larger amounts in cerebrospinal fluid, a clear fluid that surrounds the brain and spinal cord."

That's not what I've read. Studies of people who have experienced clinical death but were revived, found a common theme of a NDE. Research has suggested that the hallucinogen DMT models this NDE very similarly, suggesting that a DMT experience is like unto the final moments of an individuals life.

dissociative=causing disconnection or separation.

psychedelic=relating to or denoting drugs (especially LSD) that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.

Does a NDE of someone who ended up in a place where they felt loved and saw their loved ones, sound like a dissociative experience to you? Not to me. DMT produces effects similar to those of psychedelics, like LSD and magic mushrooms. Studies found out that the effects of DMT are similiar to that of a Near Death Experience, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die. So what I believe this means, besides the "manifesting an afterlife" thing, is that upon death, when the large amount of DMT releases, our consciousness expands to levels we are unaware of and can't explain because it's outside of the current state of science.

No. Those kinds of drugs are not allowed where I live. I'm not the kind of person who would do drugs in the first place, I just did my research on it for the past couple of years by reading experiences, stories, studies, and watching a few simulation of them.

If a atheist can end up in a heaven-like place during their NDE where they feel loved, despite them not even believing in God, then I don't think this follows our way of logical thinking. It's hard to believe, yes, but only because living on this godforsaken planet is like living in hell itself where we suffered so much that we became pessimistic about things that don't exist in this plane in the first place. The afterlife is a non physical plane of existence but it is not the only one. Even when putting DMT aside in the worst Case Scenario, the afterlife could still be the astral plane or just a black void of nothingness; and both things are still better than living on this planet. I already said my piece on this:

• NDEs can take catholic people and atheists to all kinds of places
• The effects of DMT are similar to NDEs
• Our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die

If the effects of DMT are similiar to Near Death Experiences, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, then I'm 99% certain that DMT is associated with the afterlife. There will never be 100% evidence for obvious reasons because that is outside the reach of science. I don't believe in God, Jesus, or the bible, but I believe in NDEs, DMT, and the Law of Attraction, and we have evidences for these things, unlike for things like "God".

With a Shotgun, as long as you place it in your mouth and raise it so that it will hit your brainstem, death is certain. Just don't put it under your chin. I don't think that the drugs will make a difference, death will be instant either way, you wouldn't even realize it.

Video 1444?

I'm afraid of OD due to the possibility of surviving with a big amount of downsides like damage to the brain, kidneys, etc. Then again, with hanging, if you're found too early, you could end up in a vegetative state. Good thing that I live alone.

I'm sorry for the injustice that happend to you.

You could survive a shotgun blast if you place it under a chin so...don't do that.

I really do hope that you get what you want, whatever it is, I hope you get it.

Well I just had that one memory where I was in that non-physical plane where I saw transparent blue doors, went through one of them, and then ended up here...And then there are people who have glimpse of memories of their past lives, which is something I never had. I really don't know why it's different for all of us when it comes to that.


I am. I'm wishing eternal suffering to every abusive father, mother, and parental figure who couldn't even do the bare minimum (raising their children correctly, with love).

Nope.

dissociative drugs you think sounds bad on paper. But I've relived childhood memories on what is considered purely a dissociative drug. But in reality they can offer so much more. Very dose dependent. Low doses you get refreshment as I'm feeling years younger or the years before trauma.

I guess they call it dissociative because of the potential for seeing your spirit leave your body like as in the movies literally an entire silhouette of yourself leaving your body through the roof. But disso drugs are much more tame and easy to handle vs psychedelics.


With psychedelics I always needed heroin or else it's impossible to integrate.



Those simulations you seen don't do justice! It's actually nothing like that. It's far deeper than I can ever put into words. But I have seem things like Alex Grey visuals. Dissociative drugs are nothing like what you think.


They have this 'afterglow' where you feel like 6 again, everything is bright and vivid, full of life and novelty,

You can gain things out of psychedelics you will never gain from dissociatives and vice versa. You have to experience both honestly.



One of them Is available at your local store. DXM HBr, make sure it only contains that as active ingredient. I prefer the gel pills but syrup works. 300mg is a perfect starter dose.


however 900mg is a near death experience.


Some evidence suggests we also have endogenous NMDA antagonists and hence why NDEs differ.

Still unless you try these drugs you can never know. I thought I knew it all and the simulations were 100% right, till I experienced it first hand. It's more surreal than a full control lucid dream. That puts some perspective how mind bending those drugs I listed can be. And I've done them hundreds if not thousands of Times because it was so fun and jarring at the same time.




Well I'm going to bed. Tired. Look forward to talking with you. We both won't be here much longer.


Seems like you are pretty darn open minded. That's good.

 

[MrDarkness]

This would be nice. Though, with the way the world works now I'm not very confident that any God would be a forgiving or kind being.

I picture god like a mother, the creator of all, he loves his creations, but also cries because they can spread so much hate and sadness. They are a creator, the one who made life and sees it grow

 

[magician99]

dissociative drugs you think sounds bad on paper. But I've relived childhood memories on what is considered purely a dissociative drug. But in reality they can offer so much more. Very dose dependent. Low doses you get refreshment as I'm feeling years younger or the years before trauma.

That's interesting.

I guess they call it dissociative because of the potential for seeing your spirit leave your body like as in the movies literally an entire silhouette of yourself leaving your body through the roof

You mean like this?

But disso drugs are much more tame and easy to handle vs psychedelics

What are the downsides of psychedelic drugs?

With psychedelics I always needed heroin or else it's impossible to integrate

I'm guessing that going by this, it depends from person to person? I've seen many people who do DMT being against that combination.

Those simulations you seen don't do justice! It's actually nothing like that. It's far deeper than I can ever put into words.

What about this one?

But I have seem things like Alex Grey visuals

Have you seen Symmetric Vision?

Dissociative drugs are nothing like what you think

I can only imagine. Tbh, even if you explained it in a extensive way, I would probably still be unable to tell what they are like.

They have this 'afterglow' where you feel like 6 again, everything is bright and vivid, full of life and novelty,

Sounds nice, I'm jealous. I wish I could go back to a moment in my life where I was still happy and life seemed bright and vivid, like you describe it, even if I don't have many happy memories.

You can gain things out of psychedelics you will never gain from dissociatives and vice versa. You have to experience both honestly.

Seems like it, but I'll never get the chance to, so I will have to do with DMT upon death.

One of them Is available at your local store. DXM HBr, make sure it only contains that as active ingredient. I prefer the gel pills but syrup works. 300mg is a perfect starter dose

I'l think about it.

Some evidence suggests we also have endogenous NMDA antagonists and hence why NDEs differ.

Do you have a link for this study or something that goes into this? I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being true.

Still unless you try these drugs you can never know. I thought I knew it all and the simulations were 100% right, till I experienced it first hand. It's more surreal than a full control lucid dream. That puts some perspective how mind bending those drugs I listed can be. And I've done them hundreds if not thousands of Times because it was so fun and jarring at the same time.

I can tell that it's addictive. I can also tell that I'll never know how it feels like until I experienced it first hand. But I'm here to die, so I fear that if I try these drugs and get addicted to it, I would distract myself from what I wanted to do in the first place: Ctb.

Well I'm going to bed. Tired. Look forward to talking with you. We both won't be here much longer.

True. Hope you'll find peace soon as will I eventually.

Seems like you are pretty darn open minded. That's good.

Thanks, I appreciate it. You too.

I feel like most of the people here have a more open mind. Probably because we're on the edge of ctb after suffering for shit we didn't deserve.

 

[lokabe82]

Yes I was. Not anymore though.

 

[IDIABUSE]

That's interesting.

You mean like this?

What are the downsides of psychedelic drugs?

I'm guessing that going by this, it depends from person to person? I've seen many people who do DMT being against that combination.

What about this one?

Have you seen Symmetric Vision?

I can only imagine. Tbh, even if you explained it in a extensive way, I would probably still be unable to tell what they are like.

Sounds nice, I'm jealous. I wish I could go back to a moment in my life where I was still happy and life seemed bright and vivid, like you describe it, even if I don't have many happy memories.

Seems like it, but I'll never get the chance to, so I will have to do with DMT upon death.

I'l think about it.

Do you have a link for this study or something that goes into this? I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being true.

I can tell that it's addictive. I can also tell that I'll never know how it feels like until I experienced it first hand. But I'm here to die, so I fear that if I try these drugs and get addicted to it, I would distract myself from what I wanted to do in the first place: Ctb.

True. Hope you'll find peace soon as will I eventually.

Thanks, I appreciate it. You too.

I feel like most of the people here have a more open mind. Probably because we're on the edge of ctb after suffering for shit we didn't deserve.

Yes the out of Body experience is exactly like that. They differ slightly each trip is different you can experience vastly different things In one trip.

Childhood memories very vivid as if you were there all over again. OBEs, dissos are hard to describe.

You can see a full vivid silhouettes of yourself, more vivid than that picture. It's quite a nice peaceful feeling. You have no other thought other than seeing and feeling the experience.


Tolerance does build up but takes a while. Then OBE becomes nearly impossible unless you get the DXO metabolite or other disso. For you I'd start with DXM from the drugstore, get the gel caps.



People who say DMT and heroin don't mix don't know what they're talking about and never done heroin or any opioid before. They are the "perfect pair" falsely "woke" and fake hippies think heroine and all opioid are so bad. They're not. Heroin allowed me to step outside and not be shy. To not be autistic. Opiates are artificial endorphins are have the exact same mechanism in the brain, only that heroin Is orders of magnitude more powerful. Feels much like the warm feeling from your first "crush" or girlfriend but for hours straight and feel that way indefinitely as long as you can afford it.

To me LSD and heroin is one of the best feelings I've ever felt. Heroin definitely feels like a hippie drug too, allows you to be yourself without feeling awkward.

Opiates are the most powerful thing that removes any form of socially awkward feelings. Almost supernatural and godly. Unfortunately the physical withdraw if you run out SUCKS!!!

Felt confident like feeling like a terminator with metal for skin and pistons for muscles. In the early days at least.

However psychedelics made me grow my hair out to waist length. I bet LSD is definitely the reason for long hair being associated with hippies and such. Unfortunately all shaved from breaking down mentally. Gender dysphoria is real. I was bigender basically a man and a woman in the same body, especially with having a female looking face and body shape









Another issue I have is I got an tooth abcess and worried ill get too weak and sick to even use the shotgun. Hope not. I'll craw to it if I have to maybe.



My dad especially hates me and literally just bought me a 12 gauge shotgun after fighting violently. I had to buy a taser and bear spray because he is definitely bigger than me but I'd be equally as strong if I took care of myself when I had money stronger actually I can build muscle fast but getting the motivation is hard. When your heart rate is 140 daily when it used to be 50-65 definitely a raging infection have headaches as it's on the upper top side and spreading to my brain.


Think I'll still be strong enough in 2 weeks? I got my benzos on the way I really need cbd and opiates. So if the gun doesn't kill the drugs will.



How painful you think a 12 gauge slug or ak47 to the head will be? With expanding hollow points.

7.62x39 1500ft/lb energy 2500 fps velocity 123 grain projectile. 7.6 millimeter diameter bullet .30 caliber


12 gauge slug, 1500 fps velocity, 2400ft/lb energy .69 caliber 17.5mm diameter

Ak47 is twice the speed but smaller bullet, shotgun is slower but twice as large. Both are loaded with fragmenting ammo that bursts apart into shards of metal.

The shotgun is a much blunter bullet while the AK is higher velocity.


Splitting hairs or not? Anything over with 1000 ftlb energy 120gr should be enough. But I want to go way overkill and burst my brains everywhere across the room. My brains should be on the floor and blood on the ceiling and sprayed on the walls. Most importantly no pain.


But having bacteria in my blood and my jawbone rotting away is unsettling. Perhaps another reason to get it done ASAP. Like no longer than 20 days from now.


Ask yourself what kinda parent hates their own kids? Letting preventable disease go untreated till it escalates into major organ failure.


I guess people are right I will die horrible miserable death if I don't do something quick.


Any tips on how to make sure my dad goes to prison after I'm dead? Send an email to the cops before I ctb and tell the rest of my family and friends? Like how "dad" forced me to do this and refused to get me psychiatric help as well as dental care. He also lies to doctors to get amphetamines, that's also illegal but not provable in court.



I mean maybe I should keep it simple and just kill myself. Cops must be notified 24hrs after I'm dead to avoid resuscitation.

Either way the father will have to suffer some consequences.


Not getting a disabled person physical and psychiatric help is definitely illegal.

Need tips on how to ensure that piece of trash goes to prison. 10 years at the least.


I mean letting someone go untreated has to be illegal right?




Pray for me that I'll still be strong enough to use the shotgun. If I'm still alive after a well placed .70 caliber slug then I know the devil is real and I'm cursed.


About him not selling his keyboards. He tells me "you can't make someone sell things they don't want to sell"

Perhaps destroy it? Destroy his car too?



he is a bully just cause he is slightly bigger than me. But I can just spray him and taser his ass then put handcuffs on. He doesn't get the fact mentally ill people as well as LGBT people like myself are a protected population. He is committing a felony meaning minimum 10 years in a state prison.



Would you prefer an ak47 or a 12 gauge shotgun for ctb? Hypothetically would you trust a 9mm or .357 magnum for CTB? Would you rather hang or drug yourself up then shoot yourself in the head?



Hope you know what you're getting yourself into especially never tried dmt or any drug before atleast . I could never hang, waiting for death to set in. For me it has to be instant - one moment I'm alive and conscious and then before i know it it's like I never existed. 15 grams of fentanyl and 150mg of bromazolam should work.

if your dead set on hanging then get a sedative of sort. Benzos, opiates, CBD , something

What country are you in?

 

[josephk]

im an atheist & i dont believe in an afterlife, but i still find a tiny part of myself sometimes thinking "what if??"
and based on what this life is like, it terrifies me to think there could be another round. If a creator were prepared to put us through this life..... well it doesnt bear thinking about

 

[enditall222]

I never said that I believe in heaven or hell in the first place. I said that there are countless of people who have lost their loved ones and then saw them in their NDE, and that there are people who don't believe in an afterlife, and therefore saw nothing during their NDE. I also mentioned that there are many stories of people who don't believe in God, but yet had a positive NDE.

Of course, the NDE depends from person to person. What happens in NDEs are random, yes, it varies from person to person, many people felt loved during their NDE, while others didn't.

Off topic: The whole "good people go to heaven and bad people to hell" is a narrow-minded way of thinking when it comes to the afterlife in my eyes. As if "God" ever gave a damn about the morality of the people on earth. Whether you're good or bad; everyone can experience a Near Death Experience, so everyone's brains can and will release DMT upon their deaths.


Again:

• NDEs can take catholic people and atheists to all kinds of places
• The effects of DMT are similar to NDEs
• Our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die

So we gotta agree to disagree on this. If the effects of DMT are similiar to Near Death Experiences, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, then I'm 99% certain that DMT is associated with the afterlife. There will never be 100% evidence for obvious reasons because that is outside the reach of science.


That's the thing though. Time will be irrelevant upon death.

"Studies shows dimethyltryptamine is being produced in the body. They have found traces of it in blood and urine of deceased individuals. Some even speculate it's being produced in the pineal gland (Although it's just speculation). And scientists have found that larger amounts is being released when you die, or have a near death experience. As we know DMT is a highly psychedelic experience, and will literally take you to another planet. Some even say it's being produced in small amounts when you dream (although that too, is just speculation). But you could say a DMT trip is more like a very, very realistic dream. My theory goes on about DMT being the afterlife itself. The brain actively stays alive for about six minutes after the heart stops. And as we know, time acts very differently in a dream state. Now with DMT being completely different than a dream state, time could also be very different. Six minutes could essentially turn into forever, (if you're not going to wake up again) and your entire life could flash before your eyes in just a matter of seconds. So what if the DMT realm is actually the afterlife. And what people see when they have a near death experience, is actually due to DMT."

Another person then said: "As someone who has broken through like to the core I can assure you 6 minutes is forever, one nanosecond becomes infinity. The best way I can explain it is like a sound will get caught, imagine your game freezing on a sound. Before it shuts down it makes that same repeating sound. That will happen, and you'll get caught in one spot, but in reality it's not just one spot it's infinite spots. It's infinite time, the clock never has to move you can feel suspended through dimensions this way and it's usually a very good and profound feeling. Gives you time to look around when a nanosecond becomes infinity."

If DMT can cause people to experience 6 minutes as if they are forever, where one nanosecond becomes infinity, then you shouldn't have to worry about what happens after we are well and truly dead. Since the effects of DMT are similiar to Near Death Experiences, and our brain releases a large amount of DMT as we die, even 1 second will feel like it's forever. Time will become infinite, like a whole separate thing.

Would a gunshot midigate DMT?

 

[Ambivalent1]

It better lead to something amazing

 

[magician99]

Would a gunshot midigate DMT?

I'm not sure if your brain will release DMT if you should yourself in the head, no.

Yes the out of Body experience is exactly like that. They differ slightly each trip is different you can experience vastly different things In one trip.

Childhood memories very vivid as if you were there all over again. OBEs, dissos are hard to describe.

You can see a full vivid silhouettes of yourself, more vivid than that picture. It's quite a nice peaceful feeling. You have no other thought other than seeing and feeling the experience.


Tolerance does build up but takes a while. Then OBE becomes nearly impossible unless you get the DXO metabolite or other disso. For you I'd start with DXM from the drugstore, get the gel caps.



People who say DMT and heroin don't mix don't know what they're talking about and never done heroin or any opioid before. They are the "perfect pair" falsely "woke" and fake hippies think heroine and all opioid are so bad. They're not. Heroin allowed me to step outside and not be shy. To not be autistic. Opiates are artificial endorphins are have the exact same mechanism in the brain, only that heroin Is orders of magnitude more powerful. Feels much like the warm feeling from your first "crush" or girlfriend but for hours straight and feel that way indefinitely as long as you can afford it.

To me LSD and heroin is one of the best feelings I've ever felt. Heroin definitely feels like a hippie drug too, allows you to be yourself without feeling awkward.

Opiates are the most powerful thing that removes any form of socially awkward feelings. Almost supernatural and godly. Unfortunately the physical withdraw if you run out SUCKS!!!

Felt confident like feeling like a terminator with metal for skin and pistons for muscles. In the early days at least.

However psychedelics made me grow my hair out to waist length. I bet LSD is definitely the reason for long hair being associated with hippies and such. Unfortunately all shaved from breaking down mentally. Gender dysphoria is real. I was bigender basically a man and a woman in the same body, especially with having a female looking face and body shape









Another issue I have is I got an tooth abcess and worried ill get too weak and sick to even use the shotgun. Hope not. I'll craw to it if I have to maybe.



My dad especially hates me and literally just bought me a 12 gauge shotgun after fighting violently. I had to buy a taser and bear spray because he is definitely bigger than me but I'd be equally as strong if I took care of myself when I had money stronger actually I can build muscle fast but getting the motivation is hard. When your heart rate is 140 daily when it used to be 50-65 definitely a raging infection have headaches as it's on the upper top side and spreading to my brain.


Think I'll still be strong enough in 2 weeks? I got my benzos on the way I really need cbd and opiates. So if the gun doesn't kill the drugs will.



How painful you think a 12 gauge slug or ak47 to the head will be? With expanding hollow points.

7.62x39 1500ft/lb energy 2500 fps velocity 123 grain projectile. 7.6 millimeter diameter bullet .30 caliber


12 gauge slug, 1500 fps velocity, 2400ft/lb energy .69 caliber 17.5mm diameter

Ak47 is twice the speed but smaller bullet, shotgun is slower but twice as large. Both are loaded with fragmenting ammo that bursts apart into shards of metal.

The shotgun is a much blunter bullet while the AK is higher velocity.


Splitting hairs or not? Anything over with 1000 ftlb energy 120gr should be enough. But I want to go way overkill and burst my brains everywhere across the room. My brains should be on the floor and blood on the ceiling and sprayed on the walls. Most importantly no pain.


But having bacteria in my blood and my jawbone rotting away is unsettling. Perhaps another reason to get it done ASAP. Like no longer than 20 days from now.


Ask yourself what kinda parent hates their own kids? Letting preventable disease go untreated till it escalates into major organ failure.


I guess people are right I will die horrible miserable death if I don't do something quick.


Any tips on how to make sure my dad goes to prison after I'm dead? Send an email to the cops before I ctb and tell the rest of my family and friends? Like how "dad" forced me to do this and refused to get me psychiatric help as well as dental care. He also lies to doctors to get amphetamines, that's also illegal but not provable in court.



I mean maybe I should keep it simple and just kill myself. Cops must be notified 24hrs after I'm dead to avoid resuscitation.

Either way the father will have to suffer some consequences.


Not getting a disabled person physical and psychiatric help is definitely illegal.

Need tips on how to ensure that piece of trash goes to prison. 10 years at the least.


I mean letting someone go untreated has to be illegal right?




Pray for me that I'll still be strong enough to use the shotgun. If I'm still alive after a well placed .70 caliber slug then I know the devil is real and I'm cursed.


About him not selling his keyboards. He tells me "you can't make someone sell things they don't want to sell"

Perhaps destroy it? Destroy his car too?



he is a bully just cause he is slightly bigger than me. But I can just spray him and taser his ass then put handcuffs on. He doesn't get the fact mentally ill people as well as LGBT people like myself are a protected population. He is committing a felony meaning minimum 10 years in a state prison.



Would you prefer an ak47 or a 12 gauge shotgun for ctb? Hypothetically would you trust a 9mm or .357 magnum for CTB? Would you rather hang or drug yourself up then shoot yourself in the head?



Hope you know what you're getting yourself into especially never tried dmt or any drug before atleast . I could never hang, waiting for death to set in. For me it has to be instant - one moment I'm alive and conscious and then before i know it it's like I never existed. 15 grams of fentanyl and 150mg of bromazolam should work.

if your dead set on hanging then get a sedative of sort. Benzos, opiates, CBD , something

What country are you in?

Sorry but I can't answer all of that right now. I'll be on my way. I need to ctb asap, I can't wait any longer, I feel like I'm losing my mind.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

im an atheist & i dont believe in an afterlife, but i still find a tiny part of myself sometimes thinking "what if??"
and based on what this life is like, it terrifies me to think there could be another round. If a creator were prepared to put us through this life..... well it doesnt bear thinking about

So many people say exactly the same as u did . Has to be mass programming imo . It's to create doubt . There's no doubt in my mind I'm atheist but I don't think what if there is an afterlife. There is no afterlife. I wonder what actual percentage are sure like me not many.

It's funny because I've researched this for many years and in all that time I haven't seen any experimental evidence for an afterlife soul god etc. And this is after hundreds of years of science and experiments trying to find the answer to what is a human what is reality.

Even on this site where there was a poll here 50% said no afterlife much higher than the normies. More atheists here than in the population .Still I haven't seen hardly any post say they are absolutely sure there is no afterlife

 

[Anonymus10469]

I'm christian so I'm sure we'll all go to Heaven, but my worst fear is to go to Hell.

 

[josephk]

So many people say exactly the same as u did . Has to be mass programming imo . It's to create doubt . There's no doubt in my mind I'm atheist but I don't think what if there is an afterlife. There is no afterlife. I wonder what actual percentage are sure like me not many.

It's funny because I've researched this for many years and in all that time I haven't seen any experimental evidence for an afterlife soul god etc. And this is after hundreds of years of science and experiments trying to find the answer to what is a human what is reality.

Even on this site where there was a poll here 50% said no afterlife much higher than the normies. More atheists here than in the population .Still I haven't seen hardly any post say they are absolutely sure there is no afterlife

yes i totally agree with you. But i think the mass programming has been done by evolution. There are two fascinating books on this (God is watching you by D Johnson & The God Instinct by Jesse Bering). So my rational mind says there cant be any truth to religious claims but i still have this faint, very faint, doubt. So im 99% that there is no creator but there is a 1% emotional component I cant overcome. Of course if i had to put money down, i'd put it on the atheist side of the ledger

 

[Unattainable666]

For me, death is peace - there will be no more pain, tears, stress, bills, rejection. I will be reunited with my child and my Dad. I think everyone has their own idea of what will happen after death. I just want the pain to stop. I want to feel nothing.