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The people with good looking but who have some sort of body dysmorphia, I don't think your posts make any sense. We are talking about different problems here. One is psychological and the other one is physical. I think it's antipathic what you are doing.

Not that I want to be aggressive, but some people may take offense from these type of posts.

this is sounding bias. We're just sharing our views and how we feel. It's nothing to be misinterpreted or taken offensively. Then again attractiveness is all in the eye of the beholder. Just because some people are found attractive doesn't mean other people don't think they are ugly. most of us already feel bad enough about ourselves both inside and out. It doesn't alleviate anything telling us our comments don't belong here. If you don't agree with someone's input, it is best to stay kind, please and thank you :).
 
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@noonetoo

What I think is that, in the first place, It's disrespectful to sharing such comments here. The fact you feel bad about yourselves doesn't mean you can write all you want on this forum without respecting other users feelings. I mean, title of the topic is "Anyone else committing suicide because they're ugly?".

You really thought you won't be gather negative thoughts by saying "I'm actually beautifull, but I feel like..."?. If you're not ugly, then this topic is absolutely not the place you should complain at. For the sake of other users' feelings.

Then again attractiveness is all in the eye of the beholder.

Lol. Thanks :)
 
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@noonetoo

What I think is that, in the first place, It's disrespectful to sharing such comments here. The fact you feel bad about yourselves doesn't mean you can write all you want on this forum without respecting other users feelings. I mean, title of the topic is "Anyone else committing suicide because they're ugly?".

You really thought you won't be gather negative thoughts by saying "I'm actually beautifull, but I feel like..."?. If you're not ugly, then this topic is absolutely not the place you should complain at. For the sake of other users' feelings.



Lol. Thanks :)
And how would we know if we're actually ugly or not? I've been called both. So it's also disrespectful to tell people they have no business putting any input either if they also feel their appearances make them feel suicidal. Regardless if people think they are ugly or not.
 
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And how would we know if we're actually ugly or not? I've been called both.

Then, you are average. It shouldn't be hard to differ average people from ugly people. Beauty is not that much of a subjective thing. If you are ugly, you would know it. I'm not quoting anyone as I don't want to offend anybody but I suggest you to read this topic again from the start.


So it's also disrespectful to tell people they have no business putting any input either if they also feel their appearances make them feel suicidal.

It's not disrespectful to tell people to stop being disrespectful. There are people on this topic who are clearly stated being above average on outside and ugly in inside.

What about telling those lines to an obese person who want to ctb because of their look?

"I'm actually very fit person, but lately I have gained some weight. Also, I'm the ugliest person in my mind."

Anyways.
 
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Then, you are average. It shouldn't be hard to differ average people from ugly people. Beauty is not that much of a subjective thing. If you are ugly, you would know it. I'm not quoting anyone as I don't want to offend anybody but I suggest you to read this topic again from the start.




It's not disrespectful to tell people to stop being disrespectful. There are people on this topic who are clearly stated being above average on outside and ugly in inside.

What about telling those lines to an obese person who want to ctb because of their look?

"I'm actually very fit person, but lately I have gained some weight. Also, I'm the ugliest person in my mind."

Anyways.


How is it disrespectful in the first place if people feel they can relate and you're saying they are irrelevant and shouldn't say anything at all because they aren't 100 percent ugly?

this isn't even your forum, the original poster wrote:

"I've been ostracized my entire life. There's no point in living if you are an ugly ethnic girl. I'm harassed everywhere I go, no matter how nice or accommodating I tried to be."

I don't see anywhere where they strictly prohibited input from people average looking or that feel ugly inside.
Nor did they define if they meant ugly inside or out or both. I think people are entitled to their opinion regardless but excluding people or making people feel like an outsider especially in a suicide forum is beyond appropriate.
 
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How is it disrespectful in the first place if people feel they can relate and you're saying they are irrelevant and shouldn't say anything at all because they aren't 100 percent ugly?

Because this thread is about being ugly. It says it in the title.
 
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Because this thread is about being ugly. It says it in the title.
And if people feel ugly inside or out, why make them feel any less validated or inferior because of your personal definition of ugliness?

I'm just saying, we already feel suicidal, the world already excludes us enough. If we feel ugly, our input matters just as much and if it doesn't matter to you, then you can ignore but it's not nice to chase people away or make them feel less then and tell them they aren't ugly enough to have a right to comment.
 
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I never knew what true ugliness was until a plastic surgeon mutilated me. Its horrifying waking up everyday and forced to see myself. I fucking am so jealous of everyone with their nirnal faces and eyes living life hapo taking photos. I hide on my home like a monster. Fuck why didnt i listen
 
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Itsalmosttime

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And if people feel ugly inside or out, why make them feel any less validated or inferior because of your personal definition of ugliness?

I'm just saying, we already feel suicidal, the world already excludes us enough. If we feel ugly, our input matters just as much and if it doesn't matter to you, then you can ignore but it's not nice to chase people away or make them feel less than.

Because that's a completely different subject.

This thread is about being ugly. If you are ugly the world treats you like garbage.
 
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Because that's a completely different subject.

This thread is about being ugly. If you are ugly the world treats you like garbage.
Truth. I am treated so poorly now its fucking shocking
 
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Because that's a completely different subject.

This thread is about being ugly. If you are ugly the world treats you like garbage.

The world treats everyone weaker like garbage, not necessarily because you feel extremely ugly. The rest of us get treated like garbage too, we have it enough in the outside world. We don't need it here :)

&the original threader didn't specify it was a completely different subject to feel versus to be, to some it's all in the same. I would suggest making acquaintances with people you can relate to and private message them instead of telling people to go away because they aren't in the same "level" of ugliness as you. I apologize the world does discriminate on looks, if I were near you, I wouldn't. In my surroundings it is the complete opposite, uglier people have it way better :(.
 
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The world treats everyone weaker like garbage, not necessarily because you feel extremely ugly. The rest of us get treated like garbage too, we have it enough in the outside world. We don't need it here :)

If you are ugly you are treated badly from school to the nursing home.

For some, being treated badly for long enough will make them suicidal.

That is the point of this thread. Its not complicated.
 
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But it is complicated. It's a public forum. Everyone should be welcome.
 
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But it is complicated. It's a public forum. Everyone should be welcome.
I hate to be THAT guy but just because a
public forum gives everyone the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean the community should welcome it. Although I do agree we should be more considerate and supportive towards one another.
 
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I hate to be THAT guy but just because a
public forum gives everyone the right to voice their opinion, doesn't mean the community should welcome it. Although I do agree we should be more considerate and supportive towards one another.

But how is us putting our input on how we feel ugly so wrong if that's all we're doing? It is exactly just like threads that say "does anyone feel suicidal due to being overweight?" And because we're not obese, some of us are slightly overweight so obese people will get offended because the commenter is not fat enough compared to them?
Because we're not ugly enough, god forbid we share we feel ugly.... god forbid we share our experiences being called ugly because someone probably has found us attractive....one things for sure, it's not a surprise when people are ugly on both the inside and the outside and then they exclude or treat others just as bad as others have treated them. Misery loves company but kindness is a 2 way street. Instead of complaining why people treat you bad because you're appearance is ugly, maybe you should consider internally may be the bigger issue. I would know because internally I feel super ugly and bad and people have treated me horribly too.
 
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But how is us putting our input on how we feel ugly so wrong if that's all we're doing? It is exactly just like threads that say "does anyone feel suicidal due to being overweight?" And because we're not obese, some of us are slightly overweight so obese people will get offended because the commenter is not fat enough compared to them?
Because we're not ugly enough, god forbid we share we feel ugly.... god forbid we share our experiences being called ugly because someone probably has found us attractive....one things for sure, it's not a surprise when people are ugly on both the inside and the outside and then they exclude or treat others just as bad as others have treated them. Misery loves company but kindness is a 2 way street. Instead of complaining why people treat you bad because you're appearance is ugly, maybe you should consider internally may be the bigger issue. I would know because internally I feel super ugly and bad and people have treated me horribly too.

Hi there

I see you're still struggling with basic reading comprehension so I got you this link:


Hugs.
 
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Hi there

I see you're still struggling with basic reading comprehension so I got you this link:


Hugs.
Attacking my reading comprehension is not the answer. And it is by far obvious you are trolling. You never answered the question. You all are just saying, "It's not complicated, you're not ugly enough to input". "The thread question says it itself". No, it doesn't and this is still someone else's thread you guys feel it is your duty to tell who is and who isn't welcome to comment. It's rude to tell people they aren't welcomed because YOU say so. If someone can't relate to you enough in your perspective, then that is YOUR sole opinion but not your duty to chase people away or make them even feel any worse joining the post.
 
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my life sucks and im pretty lonely BUT (and this is just my perspective) I have never met anyone who took care of themselves that i thought was ugly. That's just me
 
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Attacking my reading comprehension is not the answer. And it is by far obvious you are trolling. You never answered the question. You all are just saying, "It's not complicated, you're not ugly enough to input". "The thread question says it itself". No, it doesn't and this is still someone else's thread you guys feel it is your duty to tell who is and who isn't welcome to comment. It's rude to tell people they aren't welcomed because YOU say so. If someone can't relate to you enough in your perspective, then that is YOUR sole opinion but not your duty to chase people away or make them even feel any worse joining the post.

I completely agree with you. I understand why it may have caused others to roll their eyes but they obviously can't comprehend plenty themselves.

@Can'tStandAnymore and @Itsalmosttime ? You in your own words, understand what's it is like to feel like one of society's rejects, yet chose to reject somebody on a suicide forum because you don't understand them. Someone who is here because they too feel rejected by society, now has to feel that same rejection in a place that is safe haven for most of us. Ostracized at the last stop. Believe me, that is far more damaging than a comment that probably made you roll your eyes. It's all subjective, but in general.

It's like how shallow can you really be? I don't have to jump to any conclusions. You see a "beautiful" person suffering from the same suicidal feelings you do, but you don't take seriously. "My suicidal feelings have merit, they just want even more attention! Hasnt society given them enough!!??" Or "Why are they so upset? I'd be happy if I was them!" Do you really think that makes life easier for them? Or maybe they feel truly damned? Rich and famous people kill themselves. Nothing could save them from themselves because they weren't so shallow or they'd be perfectly happy. The burden of living with all of the emotions driven by their conscience is what buried them at the end of the day.

All of the shit I've gone through in life? Has made me more empathetic to others. I'm not ugly, but I clicked on the post out of compassion, to try and understand and respect the suffering of people with your problem. I was going to use the term "appreciate" instead of respect, but didn't want it to be misinterpreted. Respect feels strange, but I mean it with all due respect to the suffering anyone has to endure in their lifetime. Life sucks for most. A lot worse for the select few on here. I guess we're the lucky ones.


I actually thought @noonetoo was trying to help by letting you know that life can suck just the same regardless of looks. Then went on to imply that it's what's on the inside that counts. I'd know better than to tell you that, but the intent behind it wasn't to hurt you. Quickly devolved into bullying them by attacking their reading comprehension. Some people really are just as ugly on the inside though. You don't want to appear that way, because nobody gives a shit. Not even people like me who care about everything.

I wasn't calling anyone ugly, I think most of you are just too wrapped up in your own pain to see the pain you might be causing others, and that's understandable. I've been guilty of that myself on numerous occasions.

Food for thought:

You know "pretty" people are often targeted the same way ugly people are right? They even get called names like ugly too. Slut. Whore. By total strangers screaming out of car windows. Oh but don't worry! They also get all of that creepy attention from all of the perverts who just can't help themselves! Some even wind up being abducted and murdered because they're "soooooooooooooooo" attractive. Not exactly the kind of attention you'd kill for is it?

THAT'S off topic, but I think some readers probably just want to be average looking and blend in like the rest now eh? On either end of the beauty spectrum.

But feeling ugly isn't very much different from being ugly. The mind is so powerful. That's where it's relevant. If someone feels so ugly, what is the difference? I feel like a worthless piece of shit a lot of the time, but I know that I'm not. That said? Most people can't separate what they know from what they feel.

Do you know why I like this forum? Because it is the only place in the world where I can openly see that people understand exactly how I feel, even though their reasons are almost always vastly different. I often find myself feeling guilty though because of how much "worse" some of you appear to have it. Guilt causes stress. Stress causes me to be very sick. It's a cycle I'll never find my way out of. I know I'm one of the damned. Fortune and fame? That's about all I don't have, and I know it wouldn't make a difference outside of being able to distract me. Distractions are all I have now. There used to be a time when I was normal and hated distractions like the rest of the world.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. I hope people were able to take something from it though. Live and let live.
 
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yet chose to reject somebody on a suicide forum because you don't understand them.

You missed the whole point here and playing victims, I see. Please just stop assuming I have lack of empathy because I shared my logical thoughts here. That's even worse than being pro-lifer, imo. And, it's ironic to you to say we don't understand them, while you are unaware how it feels like to be actually ugly.

But feeling ugly isn't very much different from being ugly. The mind is so powerful. That's where it's relevant. If someone feels so ugly, what is the difference?

Because that's a completely different subject.

This thread is about being ugly. If you are ugly the world treats you like garbage.



Someone who is here because they too feel rejected by society, now has to feel that same rejection in a place that is safe haven for most of us.

This is not heaven here. You are in a forum with a bunch of suicidal people. We, humans, are jealous creatures. Especially if one of your physical trait is the reason you want to kill yourself, that jeaolusy is even more in most cases. Do you agree?
If you want to be welcomed, be more thoughtful to others.


The remaining part of your post doesn't make any sense at all. The conversation is not about that being beautiful gives you less life problems. It shouldn't be that hard to understand basic concept of this thread.
 
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I sincerely don't get feeling "ugly" I'm sorry but people who say they are ugly need to tell me why? Otherwise I call BS.
Maybe I'm ugly and just don't know it, but there is a difference between not being as good looking as some and being ugly, and unless you have some kind of deformity or are REALLY unlucky, you are not ugly.
I wish I was taller, I wish it was easier for me to look muscular (which I can still fix on my own but some guys have it easier), I wish my hair wasn't thining (not much i can do on that) but none of that makes me UGLY, it just means there are more attractive guys out there. And there are a lot of things I can do to look better. Hit the gym, dress nicely every day instead of some days etc
Its weird because there is definitely a physicality to why I want to die... but ugly? That just shorthand for I don't take care of myself, MOST of the time
 
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It's certainly a huge factor. I've showered in the dark every morning for months now so I don't have to look at myself in the mirror. My appearance drives much of my self hatred and I can't help but attribute people's aversion to me, and my inability to make anyone stick around in my life, to being incredibly unpleasant and uncomfortable to look at.
 
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@Jake88 thank you for your words ❤.

@Can'tStandAnymore "if you want to be more welcomed, be thoughtful to others."

@Miserable life has gotten me no where being "average looking". No special opportunities, nothing, no sugar daddy, no one wants to knock me up and make some "Mistakes" aka blessings. ive barely even gotten hit on by men, I can recall all the times I have, that's how little it's been. The most male attention I've ever received, was given to me at the wrong age by a disgusting piece of shit.
Ive hardly ever had friends throughout my life. I've Sat several times in rooms fulls of people, in cafeterias and sat alone because people are in little clicks with their friends. I look in the mirror and cover scars and sadness with make up, like I wish I could eat the make up just to look and feel beautiful. I have scars, I use to wear very bagging clothing, I pick the acne off my face. If you think average looking people can't relate to this "deformity" of ugly ness some of you swear it segregates and makes you feel superior in this post, then you're wrong. We can relate on so many levels. Some of you could probably be a hair cut, 50 lbs-100 lbs weight loss and pro-active treatment away from being hoes and shallow Hals yourselves.
 
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Not ctbing because I'm ugly, but hating literally everything about what I see in the mirror everyday doesn't make waiting around any easier.
 
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Miserable

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@Jake88 thank you for your words ❤.

@Can'tStandAnymore "if you want to be more welcomed, be thoughtful to others."

@Miserable life has gotten me no where being "average looking". No special opportunities, nothing, no sugar daddy, no one wants to knock me up and make some "Mistakes" aka blessings. ive barely even gotten hit on by men, I can recall all the times I have, that's how little it's been. The most male attention I've ever received, was given to me at the wrong age by a disgusting piece of shit.
Ive hardly ever had friends throughout my life. I've Sat several times in rooms fulls of people, in cafeterias and sat alone because people are in little clicks with their friends. I look in the mirror and cover scars and sadness with make up, like I wish I could eat the make up just to look and feel beautiful. I have scars, I use to wear very bagging clothing, I pick the acne off my face. If you think average looking people can't relate to this "deformity" of ugly ness some of you swear it segregates and makes you feel superior in this post, then you're wrong. We can relate on so many levels. Some of you could probably be a hair cut, 50 lbs-100 lbs weight loss and pro-active treatment away from being hoes and shallow Hals yourselves.

I don't understand, what makes you "ugly"?
Like I'm terribly lonely and I'm certianly not "hot" but when I'm at a reasonable weight and dress up nice... i look a little cute. That's all I am.
Is it Acne? I have scars all over my forehead because of acne. Its not a big deal and I bet i could get some treatment to make it look better.
My nephew (14) commented recently "so you're losing your hair and still get pimples?" lmao i lobe the little bastard
 
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I've been told most of my life I'm good looking but I've never felt like I was. Feeling ugly inside is what makes me want to ctb, it's not all about outside appearance.
 
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I don't understand, what makes you "ugly"?
Like I'm terribly lonely and I'm certianly not "hot" but when I'm at a reasonable weight and dress up nice... i look a little cute. That's all I am.
Is it Acne? I have scars all over my forehead because of acne. Its not a big deal and I bet i could get some treatment to make it look better.
My nephew (14) commented recently "so you're losing your hair and still get pimples?" lmao i lobe the little bastard
I am now ugly because of plastic surgery. I am an idiot everyone warned me dont do it . I needed a therapist not to cut my face. My eyes and face are deformed now i will kill myself because i am now ugly it is the moat heartbreaking horrible thing i have ever experienced i am traumatized. I wish i waa dead
 
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Sweet emotion

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Plastic surgery ruined my life too and I never even had it. Just hiding in my house hoping, preying someone else would sort it out. I somehow let six years pass without noticing they weren't even trying. Regretted it ever since. If only I'd had a smartphone. Or maybe not.
I'm sorry I don't understand. You never had plastic surgery so how did it ruin your life?
 
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