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I'd say so too!
Rojava (video) is a modern example of large-scale society built on anarchist principles. Bottom-up democracy instead of a 4 year king
I would say its influenced by the ideals but: they have a Federal Assembly and Executive Council.
Yeah, let me respond in a bit... I'm trying to upload a nifty pic explaining Rojava's formal political structure (for people who don't know it). But there's a sasu bug right now. Talking with mods
Ah, now I understand your point. Yeah, I'd say most anarchists support radical bottom-up democracy. Not top-down governments run by 4 year kingsMy understanding is anarchy would be no governing body…
I know there are different forms like anarcho-capitalism, anarcho-communism, ect.
Do you think that society/civilization was a net "good" for humans? Would it have been better for humans to have stayed savages? There's a philosopher (Peter Zapffe) who believes that humans are over-evolved and I think that it's true.
Depends on what anarchism means. If it's the mainstream media's image of bombers & looters, well sure that's not exactly a basis for next-level civilizations. But if we're talking about real-world anarchist movements that aim at bottom-up forms of decisionmaking... maybe they're worth examining & seeing if they have elements better than present societies
No doubt most anarchists would point out that any real-world form of social organization would feature coercion to some extent. Zero coercion's undesirable. For example, how to deal with the random axe murderer?
"Peter Zapffe likens humanity to the Irish elk, whose massive oversized antlers eventually caused its extinction. Its antlers evolved to become too big to be beneficial and instead became a hindrance, much like our brains and how we have so much consciousness and awareness that it can be detrimental to our well-being (nihilism, etc). Other animals don't search for meaning or question existence, only humans do."
Ohh, okay, so you're referring to a true democracy and not to a stateless, lawless sovereignty without any form of social structure?
Lol that's what I wrote in my thread on here, right? I think that consciousness is a net negative for humans though. Personally I believe that people shouldn't have evolved beyond Homo erectus…"Peter Zapffe likens humanity to the Irish elk, whose massive oversized antlers eventually caused its extinction. Its antlers evolved to become too big to be beneficial and instead became a hindrance, much like our brains and how we have so much consciousness and awareness that it can be detrimental to our well-being (nihilism, etc). Other animals don't search for meaning or question existence, only humans do."
Detrimental? The search for something beyond daily life brought us science, which brought technology, and will bring us to the stars!
It will only be detrimental when there is no more "beyond".
Ohh, okay, so you're referring to a true democracy and not to a stateless, lawless sovereignty without any form of social structure?
probably just a miscommunication!
Why is that?
We do not know if humans are alone in experiencing existential dread, and it might be an avoidance mechanism rather than a bug...
I agree, society itself cannot exist without some form of control. At least to some extent. Especially in the world we live in now. We have tones of money going everywhere and things move quickly. Complex trade routes, treaties and stuff like that. Without government how are you going to regulate trade? You have to have government provide some sort of system to keep society together. Somebody has to build the roads, the schools, make sure there's hospitals and military to protect everybody. Everybody individually its just not going to happen. There would not have been a freeway system in the United States if there had been no government to have it built. There would be none of these systems that keep us so fat and happy and let us live relatively comfortable lives. Far left is no better than far right. Communism is very far left and that is just as oppressive as far right. You go too far in either direction and its oppression. Communism sounds awesome on paper. The idea of it. If there was no example of how communism put in place can go so terribly wrong you would think that it would be a perfect way to run a country. But all these ideas rely on people to not seek power. With a classless, governmentless society you create a power-vacuum. Somebody is going to rise to the top and it just becomes a cycle. Even tribes and villages have some form of government and class systems. We are social creatures and even social creatures like bees and stuff have what you could describe as classes. Its just how we work together and whats necessary. If everyone just lived by themselves or in a family group scattered around randomly then yeah it would work. But the way that are population is setup it would be total chaos. I understand thats not what they want but its very idealistic and it doesn't work that when put to reality.
Twice, while driving, I have come across a creature that has been struck by a previous car and is lying in the highway unable to move but still conscious.
Isn't that solved by the commune thing?
Speaking of communes, I worked (volunteered) on a kibbutz in Israel. I helped manage the olive farm.
and no, I'm not Jewish lol (because I know you asked that question (probably facetiously) on a different thread) - if you count that
Why were you in Israel?Speaking of communes, I worked (volunteered) on a kibbutz in Israel. I helped manage the olive farm.
