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wildflowers1996

wildflowers1996

Specialist
Oct 14, 2023
354
I don't think I believe in God but if God does exist I'm so angry

Why did He have to make me like this?

I'm so tired of feeling like I have to be grateful for everything and that by ctb I'm "rejecting God's gift" and that's a sin

I'm tired of thinking if I'm angry God will hate me even more

there are children in Gaza having their limbs blown off and I'm supposed to accept that God won't intervene because "free will"? I don't care about free will, stop letting children be tortured?!

and if God doesn't exist, I'm so angry at the people who have caused me so much fear with their stories about this angry God who hates me and thinks I'm horrible and sinful and thinks I deserve to be tortured forever and I'm supposed to accept that as just and me as the person who is wrong

I've had enough of life I hate being me I'm so upset with God for making me the way I am so I am always miserable and useless
 
thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
411
I'm supposed to accept that God won't intervene because "free will"? I don't care about free will, stop letting children be tortured?!
Yeah... This is one of the most lethal contradictions to the whole God dellusion in my opinion.

God's supposed (1.1) omnipotence, (1.2)omniscience, (1.3)omnipresence and (2)benevolence are just incompatible with (3)freewill.

In theology, (3) Freewill is nothing but an Ad Hoc solution to the problem of evil — classically presented by Epicurus...
 
Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
There must have been something to make everything. I doubt it just happened and poof now we have carbon based life forms that start changing over billions of years.

However the whole god thing is a human control wishlist lol. I mean there are 1000+ gods - which one is correct? And no just because it's popular doesn't mean that one is correct (Islam, Judaism, Christianity).
 
thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
411
Any God that allows millions of children to suffer and die is either evil, impotent or non-existent.
God can:
1. Not exist
2. Not be omnipotent or omniscient or omnipresent.
3. Be negligent or evil

If a God were to exist with all his supposed powers, there would be no reason for the existence of evil.

But evil exists, so God is a fucking evil piece of shit.

That's because God doesn't exist lol
There are no hard evidence that he does
 
F

Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
7,594
I'm genuinely scared of a God who wants to hurt me

Completely. If there is a God, I think there's every reason to fear them. To love them seems kind of odd given how we have been designed, how this world has been designed and all the evil stuff that goes on. It would surely feel like an abusive, coercive relationship to love someone who treated you like that.
 
thewalkingdread

thewalkingdread

Life is a pointless, undeserved, unnecessary pain.
Oct 30, 2023
411
Most religions are designed to be mental traps of submission and torture...

And, emotionally, their are the perfect environment for poisonous hatred and racist tribalism to thrive, disguised as "Universal holy love"...
 
druggedonsurvival

druggedonsurvival

Student
Feb 8, 2024
194
Completely. If there is a God, I think there's every reason to fear them. To love them seems kind of odd given how we have been designed, how this world has been designed and all the evil stuff that goes on. It would surely feel like an abusive, coercive relationship to love someone who treated you like that.
That's exactly why religion has survived this long: coercion through fear. No "love" involved in that at all. If god exists, he must despise us.
 
divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Enlightened
Jan 1, 2024
1,572
Why not the divine masculine?
Good question I'd like to believe there is a divine masculine to but since I have ptsd I feel more comfortable with the Divine feminine. I have friends who are Pagan and I think it's fascinating their belief in different gods/goddesses
 
Raindancer

Raindancer

Experienced
Nov 4, 2023
256
Obviously this is probably the number one question asked, if God exists why so much evil, pain and suffering. No one likes the answer. But my question is why are we letting it happen? There is enough money and people in the entire world to make sure everyone has food, clean water, healthcare and a roof over their heads. As a majority, people could refuse to fight in wars. There is evil in this world, it wasn't created that way, but people thought they knew better.
 
Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
Obviously this is probably the number one question asked, if God exists why so much evil, pain and suffering. No one likes the answer. But my question is why are we letting it happen? There is enough money and people in the entire world to make sure everyone has food, clean water, healthcare and a roof over their heads. As a majority, people could refuse to fight in wars. There is evil in this world, it wasn't created that way, but people thought they knew better.
Resource hoarding. I think I've been educating quite a few people here on how the wealthy, companies, tax structures, etc operate. You just have to take the top 100 wealthiest families (in say the UK, USA, wherever) and then see how obscene it is to everyone else. Im not saying go communist but what I am saying is that the 1% only deal with other 1%ers. That's their club and they don't want it to fail or have other come up and join them. That's why everything is so fucked up.
 
druggedonsurvival

druggedonsurvival

Student
Feb 8, 2024
194
Resource hoarding. I think I've been educating quite a few people here on how the wealthy, companies, tax structures, etc operate. You just have to take the top 100 wealthiest families (in say the UK, USA, wherever) and then see how obscene it is to everyone else. Im not saying go communist but what I am saying is that the 1% only deal with other 1%ers. That's their club and they don't want it to fail or have other come up and join them. That's why everything is so fucked up.
Yep, and this is only going to get worse as the availability of resources shrinks due to climate change.
 
D

doneforlife

Specialist
Jul 18, 2023
348
There must have been something to make everything. I doubt it just happened and poof now we have carbon based life forms that start changing over billions of years.

However the whole god thing is a human control wishlist lol. I mean there are 1000+ gods - which one is correct? And no just because it's popular doesn't mean that one is correct (Islam, Judaism, Christianity).
" There must be something to make everything ". Absolutely. What do you think it is. What might have driven God to design all these?
 
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Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
Yep, and this is only going to get worse as the availability of resources shrinks due to climate change.
I disagree with this. I've explained this in another thread but the people pushing the climate stuff (a lot of seems to be money based) are people in companies, government and celebrities. UK - congestion charge and ULEZ. It's just another two taxes to people who can't afford a car that is 2015 or newer and to punish people trying to work in London (who can afford £15 per day PLUS parking fees).

All the while the companies virtue signal but cause pollution (electric cars cause more damage with the mining for the batteries than current cars). They also scrap them when the car is written off or the battery is at the end of its life (it's a lot of cells). They all fly private jet, have an entourage of cars, have multiple homes - however you aren't allowed to fly (commercially), you are been taxed to the ground on your car ownership and you can barely afford a place to rent/buy.

It used to be lower/middle/upper/1% . So there were 4 brackets of money moving around. Soon it's going to be just two : 1% and everyone else. Resources will not shrink for the 1%. This is about control - not the climate otherwise the people spouting it wouldn't be doing activities that contradict it.
 
PatKat

PatKat

Meh
Aug 9, 2018
1,007
I have never been a believer of any religion. If they existed their wouldn't be school shootings, starvation, war, crisis, violence... humans are awful animals I hate that I am human an have wanted to die for many years. I'm pretty much unable to do much though. I have a TBI and trauma from life and the US Army. From my experience religious people are the worst of the worst. They think they can do whatever they want and get a free pass. Everyone is so entitled these days they push the disabled out of the way to save 2 seconds...
 
Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
" There must be something to make everything ". Absolutely. What do you think it is. What might have driven God to design all these?
I haven't really thought about it because my life is pretty doomed anyway. I just like the way the little flying dinosaurs go around squawking and causing havok lol. I'm way too depressed to get that deep haha.
 
Raindancer

Raindancer

Experienced
Nov 4, 2023
256
Resource hoarding. I think I've been educating quite a few people here on how the wealthy, companies, tax structures, etc operate. You just have to take the top 100 wealthiest families (in say the UK, USA, wherever) and then see how obscene it is to everyone else. Im not saying go communist but what I am saying is that the 1% only deal with other 1%ers. That's their club and they don't want it to fail or have other come up and join them. That's why everything is so fucked up.
Seriously. Plus the number of billionaires has increased by like a few hundred people just in the US, let alone world wide. Every problem we have on this planet could be solved besides natural disasters if greed and power were not issues.
 
Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
I have never been a believer of any religion. If they existed their wouldn't be school shootings, starvation, war, crisis, violence... humans are awful animals I hate that I am human an have wanted to die for many years. I'm pretty much unable to do much though. I have a TBI and trauma from life and the US Army. From my experience religious people are the worst of the worst. They think they can do whatever they want and get a free pass. Everyone is so entitled these days they push the disabled out of the way to save 2 seconds...
I'm going to be blunt as usual but let me know what your thought process is like.

Why would you join any army (especially in the US) when they prats are sending solders to fight they nonsensical wars for supposed "freedom" lol. When in actual fact it's to keep the military industrial complex growing and more war mongering. Afghanistan, Vietnam, Libya, Iraq, etc / all for nothing / just lining the pockets of some companies / people.
 
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Throwawayacc3

Throwawayacc3

Freedom
Mar 4, 2024
996
Seriously. Plus the number of billionaires has increased by like a few hundred people just in the US, let alone world wide. Every problem we have on this planet could be solved besides natural disasters if greed and power were not issues.
That was from Covid. Biggest wealth transfer ever.

In the UK all you have to do is check shops and you'll see all the small/medium sized companies are dead. Only the big boys are either operating at a loss or are level - using debt to buy out the little/medium guys. I saw this first hand in the property indsutry.
 
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Checker130

Checker130

Member
Feb 22, 2024
41
I don't think I believe in God but if God does exist I'm so angry

Why did He have to make me like this?

I'm so tired of feeling like I have to be grateful for everything and that by ctb I'm "rejecting God's gift" and that's a sin

I'm tired of thinking if I'm angry God will hate me even more

there are children in Gaza having their limbs blown off and I'm supposed to accept that God won't intervene because "free will"? I don't care about free will, stop letting children be tortured?!

and if God doesn't exist, I'm so angry at the people who have caused me so much fear with their stories about this angry God who hates me and thinks I'm horrible and sinful and thinks I deserve to be tortured forever and I'm supposed to accept that as just and me as the person who is wrong

I've had enough of life I hate being me I'm so upset with God for making me the way I am so I am always miserable and useless
I see God as light and dark encompassed. You wouldn't know the warmth of the sun if it was never cold.
 
halleyscomet

halleyscomet

halley
Mar 26, 2024
125
if there is a good they're not something i could morally worship or be greatful for. i am a practicing witch (non religious) i like to believe everything runs off of a kind of ripple effect. i don't believe there's any divine being in charge of the universe, i believe that things only happen because actions ripple off of each other.
 

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