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Shay

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cher-27-killed-told-emotionally-immature.html

It was a suicide but when you read the news story it's like they are seeking fault for her ctb

They say it's because she was reported by her therapist as being ^emotionally immature!^ !! Doubt this is what sent her over
I doubt it too. It's similar to how they said Dr Brandt committed suicide after seeing a parody of himself on A tv show written by Tina Fey. Everyone blamed Tina and that's not why he hung himself
 
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Caustic Cardinals

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The idea that attractive women aren't susceptible to depression or circumstance that would lead them to consider seriously suicide, sounds kind of shallow like maybe a man thought of this or a jealous unattractive woman. people are people we are our brains. our body is a vessel if our brain tell us to fucking jump guess what we jump.

For instance an attractive young lady born into born in an undeveloped country or the community that is unable to stop sex trafficking is significantly as a greater disadvantage of being preyed upon in that circumstance.
Could you imagine being literally I sex slave. would you want to continue to live without any kind of support or Escape from those unimaginable atrocities committed against your body and person. Having survived similar depravity it doesn't matter what you look like after the fact the damage is done and you are left to deal with the aftermath the psychological waste that is now your mind.
 
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bigj75

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The idea that attractive women aren't susceptible to depression or circumstance that would lead them to consider seriously suicide, sounds kind of shallow like maybe a man thought of this or a jealous unattractive woman. people are people we are our brains. our body is a vessel if our brain tell us to fucking jump guess what we jump.

For instance an attractive young lady born into born in an undeveloped country or the community that is unable to stop sex trafficking is significantly as a greater disadvantage of being preyed upon in that circumstance.
Could you imagine being literally I sex slave. would you want to continue to live without any kind of support or Escape from those unimaginable atrocities committed against your body and person. Having survived similar depravity it doesn't matter what you look like after the fact the damage is done and you are left to deal with the aftermath the psychological waste that is now your mind.
That's why suffering is subjective. You could be good looking and rich and still ctb. Just because someone is good looking doesn't mean they don't have a good reason to ctb.
 
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DeathBecomesMe

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Sep 9, 2018
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Dr Hen is quick to point fingers at the therapist, meanwhile back at the ranch he was probably prescribing her benzos and SSRI's which exacerbated her suffering and probably led to her intense suicidal ideations that she had to act upon. We've seen first hand on this forum what unique effects these meds can have on users. The docs name also puts me off, from personal experience.
 
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Sayo

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Aug 22, 2018
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If she was that much of a maladaptive perfectionist, almost undoubtedly she struggled most of her life with feelings of low self-worth and trouble internalising her achievements and others' love. I find that others are often quick to look for a single trigger in a suicide when there tends to be a history of problems that are unnoticed, especially in people who are considered high functioning (and it looks like she was high functioning, so her perfectionism was probably celebrated).

That being said, it's a horrible thing to write in an occupational therapy report, and seeing that would make me upset and distrust a doctor too. I'm inclined to agree that this is a questionable narrative, though, especially the 'totally changed her' thing. I don't know why people are so deeply fixated on the 'suicidal overnight' narrative, maybe it's the shock. Sounds like at least two people in that article failed her.

Rest in peace Chelsey, you probably suffered a lot. I'm sorry if people didn't understand how you felt, and that we can't fully understand now.

edit: Bless you @Caustic Cardinals for that post.
 
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windingdown

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Sep 10, 2018
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I don't think it's even necessary to draw on extreme examples of how being beautiful can put you at a disadvantage in life, the psychological downsides of being attractive, etc. I am good looking and subject to the vagaries of human existence, like anyone. I deal with mental illness and depression - looks cannot save you from those things. There is also perhaps a particular grief that comes from aging when you have been particularly beautiful in your younger years. Like you cannot bear the loss of your looks; it is just untenable to grow older and aged-looking. There may be something to wanting to preserve yourself as you were.

I am heartened by reports of good looking people (especially women) who have suicided. It gives me more strength to go through with it. There are so many reasons one can have to go. From a good looking person, get me out of this hell.
 
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weedoge

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Jul 12, 2018
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Yeah, shocking revelation, looks isn't everything. I name this one the rainbowpill
 
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MachineGunDani

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Depression effects the ugly and good looking
 
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Jaded

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Sep 8, 2018
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She actually didn't get a suicide verdict. It's a bit brutal to call someone 'emotionally immature' when they've had suicidal thoughts.
 
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MachineGunDani

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Or affects. Idk which one lol fuck it
 
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StarDust

StarDust

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Aug 21, 2018
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The idea that attractive women aren't susceptible to depression or circumstance that would lead them to consider seriously suicide, sounds kind of shallow like maybe a man thought of this or a jealous unattractive woman. people are people we are our brains. our body is a vessel if our brain tell us to fucking jump guess what we jump.

For instance an attractive young lady born into born in an undeveloped country or the community that is unable to stop sex trafficking is significantly as a greater disadvantage of being preyed upon in that circumstance.
Could you imagine being literally I sex slave. would you want to continue to live without any kind of support or Escape from those unimaginable atrocities committed against your body and person. Having survived similar depravity it doesn't matter what you look like after the fact the damage is done and you are left to deal with the aftermath the psychological waste that is now your mind.


I completely concur and like you, I personally have lived a similar hell. There is never a moment that your mind doesn't haunt you, taunt you, mock you and make you wake up at night screaming your lungs out, or fighting off someone that is not even there...just a memory of a dream that is lingering.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

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Mental and physical health are the most important things in life.

I've had plenty of girls show me interest in my looks but I'm still depressed.
 
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Anon1337

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Oct 1, 2018
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Suicide doesn't discriminate. Good looking ones usually get more news attention though.
 
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StarDust

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Aug 21, 2018
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Suicide doesn't discriminate. Good looking ones usually get more news attention though.
And with that being sad....it's sick. SMH A life is a life. There is no humanity in humans.
 
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Anon1337

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Oct 1, 2018
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And with that being sad....it's sick. SMH A life is a life. There is no humanity in humans.
The press wants views. The press know that a good looking woman or man will gain more views than an ugly person. Looks do matter in this world.
 
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Miss clefable

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The press wants views. The press know that a good looking woman or man will gain more views than an ugly person. Looks do matter in this world.
Shallow people I hate them
 
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StarDust

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Aug 21, 2018
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The press wants views. The press know that a good looking woman or man will gain more views than an ugly person. Looks do matter in this world.

This I know...all to well. I'm just saying it's sick and wrong.
 
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Steve

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Jun 14, 2018
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Beneath all of these suicides is likely some kind of neurotoxin masquerading as medicine or a pill.

You wanna know why Michael Jackson died? It's because he was on goddamn benzos which cause even more insomnia. His doctor was killing him slowly.
 
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Caustic Cardinals

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I completely concur and like you, I personally have lived a similar hell. There is never a moment that your mind doesn't haunt you, taunt you, mock you and make you wake up at night screaming your lungs out, or fighting off someone that is not even there...just a memory of a dream that is lingering.
I had night terrors for years and years they can be very disruptive regarding personal relationships let alone sleep habits
 
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StarDust

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Aug 21, 2018
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I had night terrors for years and years they can be very disruptive regarding personal relationships let alone sleep habits
Night terrors have been one of the worst after effects. Wake up screaming running through your house, getting hurt fighting something that only you can see until you can snap out of it. I concussed myself severely one time from that.

I am sorry that you have to go through that as well. I honestly have met anyone that had anything similar happen to them. My heart deeply goes out to you.
 
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Caustic Cardinals

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Sep 1, 2018
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Night terrors have been one of the worst after effects. Wake up screaming running through your house, getting hurt fighting something that only you can see until you can snap out of it. I concussed myself severely one time from that.

I am sorry that you have to go through that as well. I honestly have met anyone that had anything similar happen to them. My heart deeply goes out to you.
You paint a very Vivid picture I can't say my night terrors wherever so severe but I would wake myself up and others screaming and thrashing around. I did hurt my arms on a couple of occasions.
 
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StarDust

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Aug 21, 2018
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You paint a very Vivid picture I can't say my night terrors wherever so severe but I would wake myself up and others screaming and thrashing around. I did hurt my arms on a couple of occasions.

Its not fair the scars and memories we carry with us bc of what others have done...it ruins our lives and they go about as if butter wouldn't melt.
 
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GeorgeEastman

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Sep 3, 2018
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Makes me envious as hell that she did it before she wasted too much time like I'm doing. 35 and the clock's ticking. This is bordering on hell I'll be dead next week anyway from old age so it's a waste of time to even think about.
 
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CJM

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Jul 13, 2018
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Doesn't surprise me. You can be amazing looking and still feel shit in the inside for all sorts of reasons.

There was a news reporter here recently, mid 40s, great paying job, nice house, lots of friends, wife and kids - killed himself on holiday in Switzerland. Depression makes anyone its slave.
 
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bunny

bunny

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Oct 3, 2018
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this kind of reminds me of mental health workers or psychiatric nurses telling me that i shouldn't feel suicidal because i'm pretty.
but beauty doesn't last forever. the pain that i have inside will never go.
 
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AndyCurious

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Sep 13, 2018
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Scary world we live in.. Looks doesn't define you, personality does.. If I should follow the world, then I'm as ugly as fuck, dead or alive, but Idc... I've heard I have a wonderful personality, that matters to me more than looks...
 
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Trashcan

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Aug 31, 2018
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Suicide doesn't discriminate. Some beautiful people do it. Some people with their whole lives ahead of them who are more successful than most people can dream of do it.
 
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