Resource A peaceful method: Phenobarbital.

[indiannarose]

It takes 10-15g. You take your antiemetic, take your benzo, you mix with juice, do a few rinse throughs to make sure all the powder is gone, and then go to sleep.


Medical assistance in dying: a review

With it being available on the dark web, not just in EU and US but able to be shipped worldwide, I am struggling to understand why people are not discussing this method more on here.

An adequate dose of barbiturates should not be included in 'non-methods that should not be attempted' as it is a MAID protocol. Please don't just link this thread in the comments and instead contribute actual information or thoughts of your own.

Ideally a post outlining this method, including the link above plus similar resources would be pinned, alongside the multiple pinned posts encouraging SN usage - given that N is considered the gold standard.

Wishing everyone a peaceful life & death

 

[LastNite]

phenobarbital is weaker than nembutal. But Id love to know if the dose is actually accurate. I looked it up tho it said it's more likely to cause a coma rather than death and it can be slower than N.

Ive seen phenobarbital a few times pop up on DNMs as well as N. It's more common than N. So that would be interesting.

 

[merlinscries]

I find dark web sellers rather sketchy. Even if you had the money (I reckon it's rather expensive), how do you know you can trust the source and actually get what you want?

 

[intr0verse]

A very important factor one must consider with this method, critical i would say, is time. It take a lot more time than with N (some say up to 72 hours) and during this time, discovery and medical intervention is possible. MAID scenario is different, they have all the time needed, plus, other drugs in the mix too. So, if one doesn't have enough time alone, the risk of being found too early and resuscitated is high imo.

 

[rabbitjack]

One guy tried 21g phenobarbital here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-suicide-attempt-with-phenobarbital-and-morphine.157599/
But failed and was in coma for 15 days. But again, could be because he was found 10mins after ingesting.

 

[indiannarose]

One guy tried 21g phenobarbital here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-suicide-attempt-with-phenobarbital-and-morphine.157599/
But failed and was in coma for 15 days. But again, could be because he was found 10mins after ingesting.

I would have to say it was definitely because he was found so quick. Thanks for link though.
I def won't be found and will probably top it off with garbage bag over head. Like the Heavens Gate cult members did in their mass suicide

 

[orbwithinorb]

Hi OP, I have a very similar thread up about this wondering the same thing - https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ve-to-n-compared-to-something-like-sn.221404/ .

I am not home right now but when I return I plan on learning to use the dark web and ordering it online. It is the best method I could find the at the moment. Also, in regards to sources on DW - you have to avoid the Indian/Bangladesh brands as there is a good chance they are fakes despite being in real looking packages/blisters. A user on here ordered the Bangladesh brand and it turned out to clearly not be real as they barely felt sedated after taking it. If you have in South America, it seems like there are pharmacies that sell meds without a prescription. A user on here from Brazil was able to get it in like a day or two of calling around, she has since changed her mind about taking it and is trying to get better though.

 

[Liebestod]

You also need to take into consideration that shipping worldwide is a huge risk because it's going to have to go through customs whereas with domestic shipping it won't.

 

[slapntickle]

We have been discussing this same paper on a different thread:

Does the dark web have anything useful on it?

This evening I spent a good while looking through some of the biggest and most active dark web marketplaces for anything that might be of interest, but found very little. I saw some 30mg phenobarbital pills which seemed like they were legit but I gather one would need a huge amount to be of any...

sanctioned-suicide.net

...in short, it looks promising, but there are a few key things that need to be overcome. For starters, the LD50 for phenobarbitals (PBs) concerns me as there is so much variance. It goes between 120mg to 600mg/kg for rats - that would obviously mean a huge amount of pills that are needed for a normal human. This paper does say between 9-15g, but that also (to me) looks a bit sketchy: why isn't it in a 'per kg' value? Surely there's a different dose needed for a skinny 50kg girl and massive 150kg guy. The other thing is the dose of the relaxant (Diazepam etc) seems weird, as I write in my post on that other thread. An entire gram of diazepam should be consumed, but only normal doses of the others. It may well be a misprint, and if so, how many other things are misprinted?

Essentially we really need a medical professional to comment on this, but as we all know getting anyone to do that will be nigh on impossible. I do tend to trust the PPH as they are pretty rigorous in their methodology (I mean as rigorous as one can be in this field) and I'm not sure why they haven't given it any real space in the book. Maybe if we work together we can get to some workable solution. One other issue is cost. If we aim for 15g of PB, it's going to be over $500, and that's for a single attempt. Could get intercepted too in the mail.

 

[indiannarose]

Hi OP, I have a very similar thread up about this wondering the same thing - https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ve-to-n-compared-to-something-like-sn.221404/ .

I am not home right now but when I return I plan on learning to use the dark web and ordering it online. It is the best method I could find the at the moment. Also, in regards to sources on DW - you have to avoid the Indian/Bangladesh brands as there is a good chance they are fakes despite being in real looking packages/blisters. A user on here ordered the Bangladesh brand and it turned out to clearly not be real as they barely felt sedated after taking it. If you have in South America, it seems like there are pharmacies that sell meds without a prescription. A user on here from Brazil was able to get it in like a day or two of calling around, she has since changed her mind about taking it and is trying to get better though.

Thanks for the tips. I'm going to come back here in a few weeks once I've ordered it. I also have to learn how to use the dark web first. Then I will try to post on Dread for tips regarding the best Pheno source. I am planning on attempting using this method. Thinking of making a discord server first so people can follow if it goes well? Watching your thread also.

 

[slapntickle]

Re the discord server, why not? Could be interesting. I'd be keen as well to share pheno sources, there's one supplier in Greece on one marketplace that looks legit-ish but fairly expensive.