You are a beautiful human being! I see your suffering and Im so sorry. Sending Love to you!

[Disco Biscuit]

So what you're saying is that we're all fragments of the same divine cosmic consciousness temporarily incarnating in human form and that if we simply transcend our lower minds and surrender to our true nature of infinte love and light, all the worldly suffering will go away and we won't feel suicidal anymore?

 

[stellabelle]

So what you're saying is that we're all fragments of the same divine cosmic consciousness temporarily incarnating in human form and that if we simply transcend our lower minds and surrender to our true nature of infinte love and light, all the worldly suffering will go away and we won't feel suicidal anymore?

Well, yes and no.

Every time you have something that brings joy or positivity, someone shits on it or poisons it one way or another.

It's part of a fucking "game."

When you no longer acknowledge those things, people take a different approach to fuck with it.

So if I'm "happy" it's a problem.
So if I'm not happy, that's a "problem."
So if I'm neutral, it's a problem.

 

[StarryStarry]

Before I came to this site, I felt very lonely - I felt as if I was a freak and no one else felt the same way I do. Even on good days I think of suicide. It's like it's my security blanket. No matter how bad it gets, I have a way out. I'm sitting here on the bed with my little four legged friend (my cat) and am so grateful for her. I sometimes drown in my own misery so much that I forget about others. Your words have reminded me that there are other people besides me that are hurting. I am so sorry for your pain, but I now know I'm not alone. I love you all - yeah I know I know - just a goofy old woman.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Its difficult. Just my take on this subject; Yes, the world is full of people committing horrible actions to others and causing suffering to others and to themselves. I also have my own experiences of this, and not in a small way. But in my view all people have the same nature of mind as their core that is free from any negativity. That I can respect and love. That is not evil, bad, unwise etc. All the unwise actions, thoughts and emotions are the surface. Mindstates that come and go. Those I can critizise and judge. And if Im not ready I dont have to forgive those aspects. But knowing theres this innate core natue of mind in everyone, that is pure, its possible to forgive others and yourself. If you want. So for me its a practise. I want to forgive and respect everyone due to this innate pure nature of everyones mind. But it dosent mean I accept unwise actions or behaviour toward others. Or it could be that I may not want to have them in my life.

I don't think it really helps knowing that evil people at one point may have had a "pure state of mind". It also doesn't serve anyone to merely deflect evil actions as "unwise". It may be technically accurate to call it that but that shifts the blame away from the perpetrator. Plenty of these kinds of actions are committed knowingly and with all the intellect required to abstain and yet they still went forward with it.

 

[dropintheocean]

So what you're saying is that we're all fragments of the same divine cosmic consciousness temporarily incarnating in human form and that if we simply transcend our lower minds and surrender to our true nature of infinte love and light, all the worldly suffering will go away and we won't feel suicidal anymore?

Well if you like to put the first part like that its quite close how I see it. I wouldnt quite choose those words, but words arent perfect anyways. And I do also see that we have our personal minds that are different. But Im not seeing it like that what your second point is. I think its complex. Like life is. Let say you would see through and liberate your mind from negative mindstates like fears, aggression and even see through subtle structures of substrate cousciousness and depressive ststes of mind theres can be physical suffering left and therefore wish to leave the body. So I dont think "all the wordly suffering" would go away. But I do think it would lessen alot. And could go away if its certain mindstates that cause ones suffering. But then theres biological aspects like neurotransmitters effecting the mind too. So I feel its not simple. But theres nothing like noticing your own nature of mind which lacks nothing and is just deeply content.

Thank you. Beyond my damaged ego that wants to refuse, or my wounded child within (that wants 2 decimate everything with an axe... or take the entire hotel with me when I go...) I see you and feel you and thank you for the connection.. for caring. You are truly brave and beautiful, beyond measure. Even in my brokenness I can see that. You have reminded me that even though I have loads of stuff to work through im just letting things fall apart because there's no time left... (I've realized lately how badly I need to go, how much I'm not made for this life...) Tonight my revolver is looking particularly inviting. Its not even my preferred method, but I'm so desperate, rolling bullets around a dinnerplate on the kitchen table seems the only thing to do to pass the time. Yeah me at my most beautiful, whatever that means... the risks seem worth it. Let's see what the insanity of another ugly dawn brings... whatever it is, its just Time (and the taking of things from me...) Im a hero at putting things off, 30 years of heroin addiction has taught me that... so no - possibly not tonight. Recently I have lost my fear of death, im thankful to say. I am the master of being never enough, and thevslave of more. Everything is perfect, even in its naturally defective state...
My point is this, you made me feel less alone, I thank you for that. My revolver and i have been locked in a debate for days now...
Beyond these puerile fragile egos, know you are well loved (albeit imperfectly by me) in return.
From my journals (I hope you can read my handwriting!) :: for you, all of you.
Prayer of Bhodhisattva ::
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With Much love XMiguel // TriggerHappy

Thank you for your beautiful message! Im so sorry of your suffering. I really hope peace for you and of course others too! I cant believe you posted a Bodhisattva prayer! I have been thinking Bodhisattvas all day and while reading this forum and thinking about others suffering. I hope you have some refugee on that prayer. Much Love!

 

[TriggerHappy]

Thank you. Beyond my damaged ego that wants to refuse, or my wounded child within (that wants 2 decimate everything with an axe...) I see you and feel you and thank you for the connection.. for caring. You are truly brave and beautiful, beyond measure. Even in my brokenness I can see that. You have reminded me that even though I have loads of stuff to work through im just letting things fall apart because there's no time left... (I've realized lately how badly I need to go, how much I'm not made for this life...) Tonight my revolver is looking particularly inviting. Its not even my preferred method, but I'm so desperate, rolling bullets around a dinnerplate on the kitchen table seems the only thing to do to pass the time. Yeah me at my most beautiful, whatever that means... the risks seem worth it. Let's see what the insanity of another ugly dawn brings... whatever it is, its just Time (and the taking of things from me...) Im a hero at putting things off, 30 years of heroin addiction has taught me that... so no - possibly not tonight. My point is this, you made me feel less alone, I thank you for that. Beyond these puerile egos, know you are loved (albeit imperfectly) in return.
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[Pluto]

The perspective of enlightened beings is radically different, including statements about the world not being real, the ego being a fictional phantom, past/future being nonexistent, our true nature being pure consciousness, the individual self being an illusion, universal immortality, love/bliss/etc...

However, if this message is brought in at the wrong time, it results in dismissing huge amounts of pain that people are in, and making a mockery of traumas that they are experiencing (it certainly feels real). It can be a 'holier than thou' lecture on the part of the preacher and can actually cause people to feel hostility rather than curiosity towards genuine spiritual practices.

That is why the greatest teachers, such as Ramana Maharshi, never left home, never went out to 'help' people, had no interest in saving the world and avoided any sort of public preaching. Instead he merely responded helpfully to the flocks of people who came to him hoping to achieve the same state that he did.

 

[dropintheocean]

The perspective of enlightened beings is radically different, including statements about the world not being real, the ego being a fictional phantom, past/future being nonexistent, our true nature being pure consciousness, the individual self being an illusion, universal immortality, love/bliss/etc...

However, if this message is brought in at the wrong time, it results in dismissing huge amounts of pain that people are in, and making a mockery of traumas that they are experiencing (it certainly feels real). It can be a 'holier than thou' lecture on the part of the preacher and can actually cause people to feel hostility rather than curiosity towards genuine spiritual practices.

That is why the greatest teachers, such as Ramana Maharshi, never left home, never went out to 'help' people, had no interest in saving the world and avoided any sort of public preaching. Instead he merely responded helpfully to the flocks of people who came to him hoping to achieve the same state that he did.

Thats totally true! And many times words are hard, often times can be misunderstood. Im totally seing and feeling the suffering, traumas and pain as real. So my view is not to say they dont exist. They do.

But I also do respect teachers and people sharing openly and not only in their caves

 

[BornDead]

Drop in the ocean stop uplifting people! We all want to die and it's easier to do that without hope

 

[dropintheocean]

Drop in the ocean stop uplifting people! We all want to die and it's easier to do that without hope

Im sorry Just wanted to show support.

 

[Chronicillness]

I wish I was blessed with beauty

 

[Disco Biscuit]

Well, yes and no.

Every time you have something that brings joy or positivity, someone shits on it or poisons it one way or another.

It's part of a fucking "game."

When you no longer acknowledge those things, people take a different approach to fuck with it.

So if I'm "happy" it's a problem.
So if I'm not happy, that's a "problem."
So if I'm neutral, it's a problem.

One explanation of this life thing is that we are the divine, or god, or whatever it is. But the divine gets bored being so perfect and limitless so it sends bits of itself off to live out a physical life of challenge and suffering. Our consciousness, encased in this heavy, dense physical shell, thinks it's very serious and real but it's really a very elaborate cosmic game.

Not only that, the little bit of divine consciousness voluntarily signed up for all of it. When the body finally dies, the bit of consciousness (the thing that is observing all this play out) returns back to a higher realm and reconnects with... whatever it is.. and spends some time recouperating in the place of blissful perfection, hanging out with the other bits of consciousness.

When it gets bored of being perfect and limitless again, it'll decide it's time for another game of being a physical thing. It'll deliberately make the game more interesting and challenging as it increases its mastery over thousands and thousands of games played. Easy mode is boring when you're really good at the game.

Just a theory, anyway. I think I set the difficulty level too high this time around and I'm not getting anywhere with the stupid game. It's a complete waste of time. I want to write this one off and start again.



Edit: I say it's a waste of time but time is a concept that only exists in the game.

 

[Pluto]

But I also do respect teachers and people sharing openly and not only in their caves

That is fair. I can't judge anything as right or wrong. Some teachers have argued that even if an enlightened person does not interact with others (not all become 'gurus') they are still radiating an energy that benefits the entire world. Others are destined to directly help others.

Where we are going to agree 100% is as follows: all of my studies into this topic, including NDE research and also extracting the legitimate nuggets of wisdom from religious texts, is that love is the most important thing in life. It is then merely a question of what this means in practice.

On this website, 95% of the time, people want to be accepted, allowed to vent freely and have their choices supported even if they involve seemingly preventable death. But counterintuitively, that is actually the loving thing to do in most cases since people have already been through numerous failed recoveries before ending up here. And now and then, there may be opportunities to nudge someone who actually wants help in a brighter direction.

Hope you continue to contribute here as it is wonderful to have different perspectives shared.

 

[idiotstillwantstodie]

That is fair. I can't judge anything as right or wrong. Some teachers have argued that even if an enlightened person does not interact with others (not all become 'gurus') they are still radiating an energy that benefits the entire world. Others are destined to directly help others.

Where we are going to agree 100% is as follows: all of my studies into this topic, including NDE research and also extracting the legitimate nuggets of wisdom from religious texts, is that love is the most important thing in life. It is then merely a question of what this means in practice.

I think that the thing about this "love conquers all" thinking, is that it's a double edged sword. I agree that love, or extreme pro-social emotions towards other people, can potentially create incredibly powerful, personal and collective experiences.

But what almost never gets mentioned in this context, is that lack of love is a power too. The total absence of it is ultimate power. (psychopathy). If love conquers all, why are completely loveless people still everywhere after god knows (pun intended) how many millenniums of evolution? Because lack of love is a form of love too. It's the ultimate form of love of the self.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

Why does it say there are 673 guests online when the forum is only open to members now?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Not speaking of this specific user or post.

I have to ask.

Why is it, that the same people who say or write these redundant statements tend to be the same people who ignore us or directly cause that distress or "suffering"?

Oh that's right. Because it's "entertainment."

OP's post feels like toxic positivity bullshit that helps nobody

This is the same shit that gets posted on the suicidewatch sub yet people are praising OP for it. I'm confused

 

[stellabelle]

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OP's post feels like toxic positivity bullshit that helps nobody

This is the same shit that gets posted on the suicidewatch sub yet people are praising OP for it. I'm confused

It is generally "appreciated" but again with toxic positivity. You attempt to be "positive" and it is slaughtered.

Some of the most selfish shit disturbers are the most "positive" fantasyland folks. The ones who say well, "I could care less, heheheeheheheheeeeeee." It's pretty fucked.

If we care, we are a problem. If we don't care, we are a problem.

If we stay neutral, we are still a problem.

So what's the problem?

Humans who create problems where there are none, they are flat out evil.

 

[Bleak]

I appreciate the sentiment but you don't even know me at all. It's kind of meaningless for a person who has never seen or spoken to you to tell you you are good and beautiful etc. If you lived with me for a week I highly doubt you would still have that opinion. Perhaps you are those things and wish to project them on to the world... that is a noble thing that I don't mean to disparage, but some of us want to destroy ourselves precisely because we are not good people.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

I think that the thing about this "love conquers all" thinking, is that it's a double edged sword. I agree that love, or extreme pro-social emotions towards other people, can potentially create incredibly powerful, personal and collective experiences.

But what almost never gets mentioned in this context, is that lack of love is a power too. The total absence of it is ultimate power. (psychopathy). If love conquers all, why are completely loveless people still everywhere after god knows (pun intended) how many millenniums of evolution? Because lack of love is a form of love too. It's the ultimate form of love of the self.

I might be wrong but I think @Pluto is talking about love in the more metaphysical sense - the energy or vibration or whatever - that connects us together as god. The absence of love is fear and fear is what separates us. Becoming enlightened is the realisation that the self is an illusion and god is the only thing that exists. Apparently.

So as god players, whatever we choose to think and believe (create) is correct.

Atheism and nihilism are just as legitimate as enlightenment and divine purpose. There are no right or wrong answers. Life is crappy and you'd be better off dead? You're correct. We are the physical incarnations of god.and our lives are precious and important? You're correct.

We're god living through every possibility and we are consciously or unconsciously creating and imagining all of it.

Just playing around with some thoughts. Interesting to think about, anyway.

Edit: I'll think I'll buy some LSD this weekend and explore this a bit further. I'll report back with my findings.

OP's post feels like toxic positivity bullshit that helps nobody

This is the same shit that gets posted on the suicidewatch sub yet people are praising OP for it. I'm confused

It is a very annoying and clumsy post. But to look at it more compassionately, I think op wants connection and validation just as much as us suicidals. They're just coming at it from a different direction.

 

[Pluto]

Edit: I'll think I'll buy some LSD this weekend and explore this a bit further. I'll report back with my findings.

You do that!

Love is a problematic word because it is used broadly in contexts ranging from people's feelings towards their favourite brand of chocolate through to sexual relations, family/pet bonds as well as profound experiences of unity reported in near-death experiences, spiritually-transformative experiences or advanced states of meditation/psychedelics. We could do with splitting the word love into several different words to avoid this contextual cross-contamination.

When I speak of the advanced states of love, I am quoting other sources that I trust. My knowledge is only intellectual. I do not feel that I've ever been loved in this lifetime, especially not by my narcissistic family. It's hard to give out something that I've never accessed myself.

As for the OP, I take a middle ground. I respect the intention of sending good intentions to the unwanted in society. It is easy to be naïve in thinking that this is going to fix anything, but it's still a better effort than the rest of society with its total intolerance towards people who find life unbearable.

 

[dropintheocean]

So heres my experience about this since Im the one who started this thread.

First I want to say that everyone here can interpret my words how they want. But remember that it can be way off from my true intentions. Only I know what my intentions and feelings are behind these words.

I joined this forum since my own suffering is so huge I cant take it anymore. I have a very severe chronic illness with huge amount of physical suffering but no access to eutanasia. Which is just very sad. So Im in the same boat with you all even though we all have unique situation and experiences.

When I joined here and saw all these numerous posts it broke my heart. Of course I have known that people suffer but to see the posts and to know theres always a human being behind the posts is heartbreaking. At least it is for me.

I saw many posts people talking badly to each other and that made me more sad. We all want to be heard, accepted and supported. That doesnt happen as often as it should. And in social media communication escalates even more. Usually not in a positive way. I sincerely hoped this post could open up a conversation where the communication could be rooted in support and respect. Many people have no others to talk with than people here.

So if you want to see my intention to be toxic positivity its your choice. And Im sorry for it, since its not true. Im only communicating from my heart, how I feel.
My intention was to bring forward a communication with you all, even through social media, that would be supportive and compassionate. I value this myself very highly. Even a small action of kindness and even in social media can mean alot for someone. At least it does for me.

Theres lots of horrible actions in the world done by people. Its very sad. Still my worlview is that our minds true nature is good. So I have more of a buddhist worldview. (I dont believe in original sin etc.) So therefore I come from there in my communication and meeting people. I understand your view can differ.

Do I think this is going to fix something, me posting about these things? Of course not. But since I appreciate people showing their care and kindness even through social media I wanted to do that myself. And have already met great people here. So it has been worth it.

And like I said, I can appreciate you (everyone) and see your innate goodness even if I dont know your personality or actions. Since Im appreciating your true nature, behind the surface. Its not dependent about the surface. Even if you have commited horrible actions I can appreciate your true nature of mind. Of course its easier if you havent

Thank you for contributing to this conversation. I appreciate it! And I appreciate you! Even if you dont me. Sincerely wishing you love during your own suffering, it must be hard!

Edit: I'll think I'll buy some LSD this weekend and explore this a bit further. I'll report back with my findings.

I'll report my meditation Ati yoga / dzogchen meditation that shows ones nature of mind is not an alternative state that comes and goes. Like jhanas are meditational absorption states and like those states people experience with drugs are, those change. And therefore arent the basis of ones mind; Awareness/Rigpa which is stable all the time, we just dont commonly recognize it. And that inherrntly has the 3 characters I mentioned. Subtle aliveness/bliss/love being one of them.

 

[dropintheocean]

Thank you. Beyond my damaged ego that wants to refuse, or my wounded child within (that wants 2 decimate everything with an axe... or take the entire hotel with me when I go...) I see you and feel you and thank you for the connection.. for caring. You are truly brave and beautiful, beyond measure. Even in my brokenness I can see that. You have reminded me that even though I have loads of stuff to work through im just letting things fall apart because there's no time left... (I've realized lately how badly I need to go, how much I'm not made for this life...) Tonight my revolver is looking particularly inviting. Its not even my preferred method, but I'm so desperate, rolling bullets around a dinnerplate on the kitchen table seems the only thing to do to pass the time. Yeah me at my most beautiful, whatever that means... the risks seem worth it. Let's see what the insanity of another ugly dawn brings... whatever it is, its just Time (and the taking of things from me...) Im a hero at putting things off, 30 years of heroin addiction has taught me that... so no - possibly not tonight. Recently I have lost my fear of death, im thankful to say. I am the master of being never enough, and then slave of more. Everything is perfect, even in its naturally defective state...
My point is this, you made me feel less alone, I thank you for that. My revolver and i have been locked in a debate for days now...
Beyond these puerile fragile egos, know you are well loved (albeit imperfectly by me) in return.
From my journals (I hope you can read my handwriting!) :: for you, all of you.
Prayer of Bhodhisattva ::
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With Much love XMiguel // TriggerHappy

Trigger Happy, your message touched me deeply. Im so sorry for your suffering! I pray you peace! Thank you for sharing that prayer! I hope you have some refugee in that. I certainly try to. Much love!

 

[Disco Biscuit]

When I speak of the advanced states of love, I am quoting other sources that I trust. My knowledge is only intellectual. I do not feel that I've ever been loved in this lifetime, especially not by my narcissistic family. It's hard to give out something that I've never accessed myself.

Wow, I could have written this. It was only recently that I actually learned that love had been the missing ingredient in my life all along. Because I'd never experienced it, I had no idea that this was something emotionally healthy people experienced all the time - the giving and receiving of love. I had this sense that they had something I didn't but I could never work out what it was. I'd been going through life just trying really hard to get people to like me until I eventually became tired of it and became a recluse. To be fair, people do like me when I appear but I find it very hard to create meaningful connections. And now it's difficult to let anyone in because I don't actually want to be here anymore anyway.

I guess we're all loved in the metaphysical sense so reddit-like proclamations of "you are loved!" are technically correct. But it would be nice to be loved by an actual person in real life and love them back. I don't think I'll experience this but I'm reconciled to it now. Maybe in the next life.

The English language definitely needs more words for love! I think they do exist some other languages?

You do that!

I've just ordered some LSD tabs off the dark webs and it should be here by Saturday. I've only taken acid once before, a really long time ago, but in a party setting. This time should be really interesting. The temperature outside isn't unbearable either so it'll be nice to sit on the beach and watch the water for some of it. Very excited about this now. I'll update the thread with my "trip report" :)

Thank you op. I wouldn't have thought to go on this psychedelic adventure if you hadn't made this post!

Hey op, thank you for the post as well. You're obviously a well-intentioned and lovely person. I'm sorry for the suffering you're experiencing with your chronic illness but it's brilliant that you've found Buddhism and meditation and using your earthly struggles as a path to enlightenment.

You're absolutely right - a small kindness can change a lot and can transmit from person to person in ways that we don't even realise. Just like being unkind can as well.

 

[Pluto]

I've just ordered some LSD tabs off the dark webs and it should be here by Saturday. I've only taken acid once before, a really long time ago, but in a party setting. This time should be really interesting. The temperature outside isn't unbearable either so it'll be nice to sit on the beach and watch the water for some of it. Very excited about this now. I'll update the thread with my "trip report" :)

I am no expert, but I have come to respect that the right psychedelics can enable genuine insights on par with NDEs. I used to be a part of a community called actualized.org in which 5-meo-DMT was advocated as a legitimate pathway to spiritual enlightenment. Again, not something I have any personal experience with, and it would be important to know what one is doing, too.

The following is a DMT report with the classic traits of a profound near-death experience, hence its inclusion on the NDERF website:

Luis S Other 9257

Narrative description of Luis S Other

www.nderf.org

And that inherrntly has the 3 characters I mentioned. Subtle aliveness/bliss/love being one of them.

In the Advaita tradition, this is known as sat-chit-ananda (being-consciousness-bliss). But the word 'mind' in that context refers to thoughts that are all based on the false sense of 'I', and thus endlessly distract from the underlying true nature. The goal of devotees is still very much death, except it is the permanent death of the individual 'I' and thus an end to cycles of rebirth. Nobody in that state cares if the body is dead or alive so suicide is never a consideration. Ramana Maharshi's methodology for realising the true Self is summarised here.

Anyway, I respect where you are coming from, and I intend for my goodbye thread to have a similar tone of love towards everyone here. However, I would recommend spending some time here to better understand people's aversion to the sort of positivity that most people have already experienced as hollow or generic. It just takes time to tune into what validation or support people are actually seeking here. I hope this helps.

 

[dropintheocean]

In the Advaita tradition, this is known as sat-chit-ananda (being-consciousness-bliss). But the word 'mind' in that context refers to thoughts that are all based on the false sense of 'I', and thus endlessly distract from the underlying true nature. The goal of devotees is still very much death, except it is the permanent death of the individual 'I' and thus an end to cycles of rebirth. Nobody in that state cares if the body is dead or alive so suicide is never a consideration. Ramana Maharshi's methodology for realising the true Self is summarised here.

Anyway, I respect where you are coming from, and I intend for my goodbye thread to have a similar tone of love towards everyone here. However, I would recommend spending some time here to better understand people's aversion to the sort of positivity that most people have already experienced as hollow or generic. It just takes time to tune into what validation or support people are actually seeking here. I hope this helps.

Thank you! Yes, thats true. I have studied Advaita and know Ramanas work and self inquiry method. Its a non-dual path to recognize ones true nature of mind. They just use different language and concepts than buddhist. And modern pragmatic dharma scene. A bit different views.

Its pretty complex to compare these different traditions so Id recommend reading about them from well known teachers if someone is interested. Many scholars have compaired them too of course.

My experience and understanding after studying and practising is that our minds are full of emotions/thoughts etc. which carry a self-charge, a feeling of contraction. Like when you feel angry theres this contraction. If you feel pure love/compassion there isnt. Theres just openess and clarity of mind. So the point of buddhist practise is to see through those contractions and negative mind states and liberate them. Thats called vipassana practise. And inaddition to see through and liberate the sense of small, contracted subjective self, I. Through that process one ultimately through practise comes to experiantelly know ones true nature of mind. Like you said in advaita its called (big) Self or sat-chit-ananda. In buddhist tradition true nature of mind/Awareness/Rigpa etc. In those traditions its commonly thought theres several awakenings/insights that happen through practise when one deepens ones experience of this Awareness and ultimately when all mind sates have been seen through and liberated and ones mind rests in the recognition of this Awareness 24/7 its called enlightement.

 

[Bleak]

So heres my experience about this since Im the one who started this thread.

First I want to say that everyone here can interpret my words how they want. But remember that it can be way off from my true intentions. Only I know what my intentions and feelings are behind these words.

I joined this forum since my own suffering is so huge I cant take it anymore. I have a very severe chronic illness with huge amount of physical suffering but no access to eutanasia. Which is just very sad. So Im in the same boat with you all even though we all have unique situation and experiences.

When I joined here and saw all these numerous posts it broke my heart. Of course I have known that people suffer but to see the posts and to know theres always a human being behind the posts is heartbreaking. At least it is for me.

I saw many posts people talking badly to each other and that made me more sad. We all want to be heard, accepted and supported. That doesnt happen as often as it should. And in social media communication escalates even more. Usually not in a positive way. I sincerely hoped this post could open up a conversation where the communication could be rooted in support and respect. Many people have no others to talk with than people here.

So if you want to see my intention to be toxic positivity its your choice. And Im sorry for it, since its not true. Im only communicating from my heart, how I feel.
My intention was to bring forward a communication with you all, even through social media, that would be supportive and compassionate. I value this myself very highly. Even a small action of kindness and even in social media can mean alot for someone. At least it does for me.

Theres lots of horrible actions in the world done by people. Its very sad. Still my worlview is that our minds true nature is good. So I have more of a buddhist worldview. (I dont believe in original sin etc.) So therefore I come from there in my communication and meeting people. I understand your view can differ.

Do I think this is going to fix something, me posting about these things? Of course not. But since I appreciate people showing their care and kindness even through social media I wanted to do that myself. And have already met great people here. So it has been worth it.

And like I said, I can appreciate you (everyone) and see your innate goodness even if I dont know your personality or actions. Since Im appreciating your true nature, behind the surface. Its not dependent about the surface. Even if you have commited horrible actions I can appreciate your true nature of mind. Of course its easier if you havent

Thank you for contributing to this conversation. I appreciate it! And I appreciate you! Even if you dont me. Sincerely wishing you love during your own suffering, it must be hard!

I'll report my meditation Ati yoga / dzogchen meditation that shows ones nature of mind is not an alternative state that comes and goes. Like jhanas are meditational absorption states and like those states people experience with drugs are, those change. And therefore arent the basis of ones mind; Awareness/Rigpa which is stable all the time, we just dont commonly recognize it. And that inherrntly has the 3 characters I mentioned. Subtle aliveness/bliss/love being one of them.

Sorry for your suffering and my unfriendly reply. Was too quick to judge you as one of those people who just say feel good phrases without regard for the person they are talking to. I appreciate people who can spread genuine positivity so please don't feel discouraged.

 

[dropintheocean]

Sorry for your suffering and my unfriendly reply. Was too quick to judge you as one of those people who just say feel good phrases without regard for the person they are talking to. I appreciate people who can spread genuine positivity so please don't feel discouraged.

Thank you Bleak for your kindness! I really appreciate it!

 

[idiotstillwantstodie]

Edit: I'll think I'll buy some LSD this weekend and explore this a bit further. I'll report back with my findings

That there is a drug that makes your every single stupid observation seem like worthy of nobel price.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Wtf?!
Ok im getting quite vexed by the super-suspicious nature that loving / supportive people are bieng treated with. Like maybe they're pro-lifers with some fucking agenda. Savior complexes aside, people, .ike I said in my post :: were sensitive and untrusting, we can see through predators / prolifers insane intentions - (do they care that much? Nah). Um, maybe lets not throw around so much ignorant shade. I wanna die, but until then - thank you to everyone known (you get my direct love in pm direct from my heart) and unknown that care... You make these hard, hopeless days less lonesome.
I'm old enough to know the destructiveness of a judgmental ego... I suffered at its shortsighted rude temperament, way too long. Sound familiar? Caring for fighting pitbulls, eventually got me accepting / giving of love, no matter the source, or its agenda. In magick we speak of perfect love and perfect trust, I pray I live and learn that truth, however long I have left...
God, grant me the light that I may shine, and give it to those that need...