Would you want to kill yourself in front of someone?

[Hopeless_soul]

I have fantasies of doing so as one last ditch attempt at activism.

Reading that line I thought of Jan Palach.

 

[Chinaski]

I have fantasies of doing so as one last ditch attempt at activism. A lot of activism is founded on corpses that made a difference. So it is an appealing fantasy to go out that way but an unrealistic one.

I would like to violently kill myself in front of the secretary of work and pensions. Preferably as she is live in front of the press explaining how her policies are not killing people and that is absolute unfounded nonsense with no evidence. I would go there wearing a sign saying 'This is not a corpse this is only scaremongering.' With a link to Calum's list beneath rendered in bold crimson. If I can hit her with arterial spray all the better. I can imagine them asking the secretary if that is a corpse and blood on her hands? Then her not answering the question and instead referencing the amount of disabled people that have been 'helped' into working. All as my body cools in a pool of blood in front of the podium...

In reality though no. I will be making every effort to not leave awful images burned in the brain. I have seen corpses in various states and it fucks you up. It is what prompted me to write on that issue in the first place appealing to consideration.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/corpse-exposure-consideration.7772/

Sigh, back to impotent misery I guess...

If you're talking about Esther M then tbh that's a good shout imo. I'd do my damnedest to make sure it wasn't in vain; unfortunately l suspect the media would present it as MORE HARD LEFT THUGGERY, Esther herself is sociopathic enough not to give a fuck, and poor old John McDonnell would find himself facing criminal charges of incitement of some sort.

 

[Kyrok]

For those in pain management getting their meds forcibly reduced, suicide either at one's doctor's office or at the CDC would be worth considering. In my state, the AG is the shit turning the screw on pain patients and doctors.

 

[Throwaway563078]

That's something I could never do. I don't even want them to find my body. I don't want the news to be reached. I don't even like thinking of suicide details anymore. I don't want to harm anyone. I just wish I could disappear in a snap that's all.

 

[Ch92921]

No, thats cruel.

 

[MsM3talGamer]

I wouldn't do that because I consider my CTB a very personal affair. I guess it's mainly because I'm a highly introverted and private person. Also, I don't want a pro-life asshole trying to "save" me.

 

[21Neberg]

A lot of people in this thread would, to get revenge on people wh have ruined their lives. Personally, all my hate is turned against myself. I really don't hate anyone so much that I'd want them to see me CTB. So thats a no from me, ill do it alone.

 

[Sanguinius]

Yeah, i fanatisised long time about public self-immolation...

 

[Hopeless_soul]

Yeah, i fanatisised long time about public self-immolation...

For political activism?

 

[Sanguinius]

For political activism?

I don't really know why... but I think to show them my pain...

 

[Hopeless_soul]

I don't really know why... but I think to show them my pain...

It must be a really painful way to ctb.

 

[color_me_gone]

I think to show them my pain...

Those who don't live our pain will never appreciate it.
Suicide has been going on since the beginning of time, and society still does not get it.
You will be labeled as the villian, so sorry!

 

[Johnnythefox]

'An elderly monk called Thich Quang Duc sat down in the lotus position, crossing his legs. Some other monks poured petrol over him and then he set himself on fire and burned to death while sitting in this position.' It was an act of protest over discrimination towards Buddhists by the South Vietnamese government.

 

[Sanguinius]

It must be a really painful way to ctb.

Yes, I don't really consider that (anymore) as a method. It was just... kind of a fantasy..

 

[color_me_gone]

Yes, I don't really consider that (anymore) as a method. It was just... kind of a fantasy

Glad to hear that Sanguinius!
We should not want to torture ourselves.
Society has done enough of that to us already.
We should be our own friends.
We should exit as peacefully and painlessly as possible.
Forget about statements to the world - they will only be used against you.

 

[Misanthrope]

@Chinaski I was talking about Amber Rudd but Ester is also a piece of shit and I count Ian Duncan Smith as the worst of the lot, laughing like a true sadist in the commons when an MP spoke about the harrowing plight of a disabled constituent, driven close to destitution and suicide.

It is all pretty pointless to be honest. It feels like at some point George Orwell's 1984, got together with Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, and Franz Kafka's The Trial. Then after a round of drinks and blow had an inhumane style orgy. Which produced some mutated baby born of tyranny left wracked in chronic pain, a child we call current reality…

As you and @Smilla mentioned. The small cabal of media barons that pretend at offering diverse opinion and truth, behave like the Memory hole of 1984. Entire protests of thousands never gracing front covers, as such they don't exist. It is honestly utterly disturbing at this point. I am sure Goebbels would be proud of his fully digested legacy.

@Johnnythefox There have been cases of people setting themselves on fire in council offices and job centres. Won't hear about it much though… memory holed. If bureaucracy is creating such an intense reaction as that, seems like something is very wrong. Some of the DWP and ATOS workers are lucky. I have had to talk clients down from going off medication and insulin because they are so healthy! Or wanting to overdose before seeing their work coach. Or wanting to assault or kill these workers. It is utterly sick, meets the criteria of psychological torture as far as I am concerned. I am glad I am no longer working because the mood I am in I feel similar these days.

The morbid person in me kind of wants the families of the dead to dig up all the bodies in one coordinated effort and drop them in front of parliament stacking them high. Chaining them to fences so it all becomes a hideous spectacle as they are removed. There is no justice though, those involved would likely get done under whatever laws involve moving bodies. Just like peaceful anti frackers nearly got done over with misapplied terrorism laws. Does not help legal aid is rapidly becoming a unicorn made out of rainbows, and whistle-blowers get pilloried and destroyed in the press.

Brave New World indeed…

 

[Johnnythefox]

The small cabal of media barons that pretend at offering diverse opinion and truth,

It was truly horrendous to watch the propaganda machine in overdrive prior to the vote on Scottish independence.

 

[ReadyasEver]

Yeah, I have friends in France and they say Macron is holed up in the presidential compound quite a bit these days. Dim job prospects for those under 30, taxation rates pulled off the table temporarily. They told me nearly 70% of the French people consistently push for tax decreases, they believe they can do a much better job of caring for one another than the government programs can. Media bias, corruption, rampant everywhere. I cringed when Nancy Pelosi became speaker of the house in the US, along with her old cronies. Real change put on hold again. She's one of the wealthiest people to serve in US government, her family worth 100's of millions in California real estate. She cares about the struggling person trying to get by as much as Trump does, she just says the things these people want to hear.

 

[Jen Erik]

Sure, but not in a nefarious way or with ill intent. Like if a researcher wanted to document my death, I'd be fine with that.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Maybe if more of us were like the French then things would get a little better. I admire their history of not taking any shit.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20151006/when-french-workers-take-on-their-bosses

 

[Sixfeetunder]

No. I think it's quite a private thing and am uncomfortable with the idea of dying in front of people. I am also uncomfortable with the idea of anyone other than authorities and funeral home staff who will forget about me seeing my body before it is prepared enough for family to view.

 

[throwaway123]

No.

 

[Worsethangarbage]

Well, if I am gonna be honest...I would love to traumatize people so they might understand that they are doing something wrong as a society.

 

[color_me_gone]

understand that they are doing something wrong as a society.

I hear what you are saying, but society will NEVER get it. Best to just leave it behind.

 

[Pulpit2018]

I would do it yes,if it served some purpose.

 

[Pulpit2018]

I hear what you are saying, but society will NEVER get it. Best to just leave it behind.

Then again,if there was massive suicide going on,they WOULD get it.
Rising numbers in USA for example are raising a few questions...

 

[color_me_gone]

massive suicide going on

they will surely equal it to something OTHER than the real problem

 

[Pulpit2018]

they will surely equal it to something OTHER than the real problem

Of course,diffusing responsibility is always a standard.
I meant that they will notice something at least.
Cant put your head in the sand for ever.

 

[Jiva]

Honestly? Sometimes i have this morbid fantasies. But in real, a mass suicide is more tempting. The idea of more participators gives me bigger courage and motivates me overcome the survival instinct. But it is a theory only.

 

[Pulpit2018]

We need to produce Kool Aid for everyone here!