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pcm733

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The cardiac drugs are listed in PPH as similar to SN and aren't too hard to get(?); any sense of why SN is so strongly preferred?
 
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bb142342

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Jun 16, 2024
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Which heart medications would those be? I must have missed that part.

Perhaps it's because they have to be taken in large quantities—and surely in combination with something else—since otherwise, the end would likely be agonizing, much like a heart attack?

With SN, the idea is supposedly that you keep breathing normally, but eventually the body can no longer absorb oxygen, and then you lose consciousness.
 
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pcm733

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It's in the PPH - they're actually medications with other uses. Point is taken.
 
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bb142342

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I found it.

But honestly, I can see why so many people choose SN when they read about how it works.

It's just complicated to figure out the right dosage for one's body weight; things could get extremely painful if you mess up a combination—for instance, if your blood pressure spikes or plummets drastically while you're fully conscious, or if your heart stops or you suffer a heart attack.
 
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hdead

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I found it.

But honestly, I can see why so many people choose SN when they read about how it works.

It's just complicated to figure out the right dosage for one's body weight; things could get extremely painful if you mess up a combination—for instance, if your blood pressure spikes or plummets drastically while you're fully conscious, or if your heart stops or you suffer a heart attack.
I've also read it and I think the cardiac drugs are best used when combined with sedatives, like listed in the DDMAPh protocol. They're in there as a sort of 'fail-safe' extra, or at least that's how I read it. On their own they sound like a pretty horrible way to stop existing.
 
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Forveleth

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Mar 26, 2024
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Those drugs are absolutely not easy to obtain in those amounts for everyone.
 
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I've also read it and I think the cardiac drugs are best used when combined with sedatives, like listed in the DDMAPh protocol. They're in there as a sort of 'fail-safe' extra, or at least that's how I read it. On their own they sound like a pretty horrible way to stop existing.
My understanding of the DDMAPh is that you are being given three ways to get the job done, in an order that will provide the least discomfort. I found an AI with no guardrails. With it's help, I'm convinced that the combination is guaranteed to work – not guaranteed to be peaceful – but pretty damned close. The combination is designed to account for extreme opioid tollerance, heart conditions, heart medications, obesity, and more. There are some very boring research papers about it out there.
 
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