Why normal people want to live ?

[windingdown]

Very interesting thoughts, thank you. You're right about what you noticed in the museum. I also recently went visiting a beautiful musuem that I hadn't ever seen, and it's true what you said. I managed to get involved just because I was with close friends and I felt sort of abstracted from my "real" life and enjoyed my tour like a sort of "trip" in another dimension. But if I could isolate myself for a moment, I could feel how out of place I was there, like if I was already dead just like the mummies I was seeing lol. You are right there was only youngsters and at worst middle aged men with their sons. Older people just get through the day and I feel just like one of those, already facing death and waiting for my time to come. It's very sad destiny if I think about it. In a certain way I am happy I won't reach older age. It's the most horrifying thing see ourselves slowly falling, and when you are old you have no future, you can't have hope because you know you are near the end, so you only have anger and remorse. Maybe humans are stretching their will to live too far.

Likewise, thank you for the insightful thoughts. I appreciate reading them, and find myself having many of the same ones. Today I was at an expo (an unusually busy weekend) and was observing the women in their 50s or so. I thought how they were all like me once, or like the 20-something women there. They have mainly lost their beauty, and to me, their bodies look like they are falling apart. Yet they were some of society's better-off women. I've never really observed aging in an empathetic way before recently, and almost can't believe this is just what happens to us. I bear no judgment, but just feel that there is some tragedy to it, and that it looks so physically uncomfortable. And we are all headed in just one direction.

Of course, that is to say nothing of the existential reality of waking up every aging day and having many hours to fill with - hopefully something satisfying, but perhaps often not. And I do not think my observations of the physical are shallow, as these bodies are our homes, and physicality dictates a great deal of our experience in life.

I was just saying to my mom tonight about having to confront the reality of my own self-determined end at some point in life. The only question is when. It is a frightening question to have to ask, and though I always know it is pending, I can hardly bear to arrive there. It does feel unjust that my choices are to do so, or live through old age.

 

[windingdown]

Very interesting thoughts, thank you. You're right about what you noticed in the museum. I also recently went visiting a beautiful musuem that I hadn't ever seen, and it's true what you said. I managed to get involved just because I was with close friends and I felt sort of abstracted from my "real" life and enjoyed my tour like a sort of "trip" in another dimension. But if I could isolate myself for a moment, I could feel how out of place I was there, like if I was already dead just like the mummies I was seeing lol. You are right there was only youngsters and at worst middle aged men with their sons. Older people just get through the day and I feel just like one of those, already facing death and waiting for my time to come. It's very sad destiny if I think about it. In a certain way I am happy I won't reach older age. It's the most horrifying thing see ourselves slowly falling, and when you are old you have no future, you can't have hope because you know you are near the end, so you only have anger and remorse. Maybe humans are stretching their will to live too far.

Another thing I was thinking about on my museum visit, and your post made me think of this too, was how I was viewing the people there as 'normal'. They were who I used to be, when I was 'normal' and went to museums. But I wondered how many were there thinking about dying, like I was part of the time. To others, I looked normal too. But I am suicidal. Maybe others there also weren't normal, as such, either.

 

[KillVenus]

"normal" people have things worth living, and things to look forward to.. unlike most of us i'm sure.

Those things worth living are subjectives

 

[KillVenus]

I consider both normal depending on the individual. What doesn't seem normal to me is people who want to live seeing others like us as abnormal.

We live in that society where the people need to follow the traditions, the rules even the dumbest because human need to be in a group and what better group than the whole world ? This concept always disgusted me as hell

 

[RM5998]

Some people have goals they wnt to achieve before dying. Like me I want to find someone I can spend the rest of my life with before I die :') Why? Because I don't want to die without knowing the feeling of being loved to me its really sad.

I've half-accepted the fact that I'll die never knowing that. Sometimes I do get surprised by how antithetical that is to what the majority proposes should happen.

 

[KillVenus]

I've half-accepted the fact that I'll die never knowing that. Sometimes I do get surprised by how antithetical that is to what the majority proposes should happen.

For me it's easy to accept that because for me Being alone and unloved is pretty cool you got more time to spend with yourself ;-)

 

[RM5998]

For me it's easy to accept that because for me Being alone and unloved is pretty cool you got more time to spend with yourself ;-)

It was cool three years ago. Now it's just lonely.

 

[Sadgirl19]

This is going to be long, but I hope it's somewhat understandable.

Personally, though I don't consider myself "normal"(I've been chronically suicidal since I was just 6 years old), when I feel like I want to live it's always to help other people.

I too believe that life is pointless. When there is pain, it hardly seems worth it when all we have to look forward to is death and being forgotten, or only being remembered by others who will simply die and be forgotten too. There has been a lot of pain in my life, and it's a daily struggle to continue while I feel that life is so entirely pointless.

When I'm doing well or fighting to live (to not have my family suffer as I do), I want to live to help those who do want to live or those who are on the fence about it.

I'm a teacher's aide and to the kids I work with, or most I assume, life is real, hopeful, exciting, and meaningful.

To my kids, they don't seem like they question it. Life is real and meaningful in their eyes, and their education and futures matter to them and their parents. If I can make the learning experience more pleasant and simple for them, that's good for me-because this is real and matters to them, even if it all seems pointless in the end from my own personal perspective.

Idk if that makes sense. Like, I wonder half the time if I'm just dreaming because life just doesn't make sense and feels meaningless since we all just die anyway. It feels dumb to me, to continue to suffer when really I don't have to because in the end nothing will matter at all.
But to my kids they don't seem to feel that way.

Additionally, I grew up in an incredibly abusive household. Even if nothing matters in the end, the journey to the end is real to us and some of us have an abnormally shitty path to that end. I had one good teacher who was one of the only people in my life who made me feel worthwhile and loved. When I got home, I would return to being invisible until someone wanted a rag doll to beat up on. I went to bed daily fearing that I would be raped because I was being abused and that was the next step. It was hell. I was also picked on and beat on at school. My teacher and my grandparents were the only people who showed me kindness and cared about me at all. Even now when I cry and no one's there to comfort me, I think of my grandma and I feel empty and miss her deeply because she was the only person who ever comforted me and told me it was ok to cry.

I figure, if I can make someone else's journey to the end a little more comfortable or enjoyable, if I can make them feel loved or cared for when maybe they might not feel that at all otherwise, that's worth it for me a lot of times, and gives me some meaning and purpose to live.

When I'm doing extremely badly and don't care about life at all, it's difficult for me to work/ care about work or others some of the time. When I'm doing a little better, I just find purpose in trying to help someone else have a positive journey.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of a game I actually really like called "Journey" as well. I love it because it closely mirrors reality for me. I think a lot of people find it boring,pointless,or confusing, just like real life. It's actually a really beautiful game. The point is experiencing the game instead of just waiting for the prize at the end or whatever.

But, yes. I stay alive in hopes that others won't experience my pain, or at least less than they might otherwise. I never in my life understood the "go to school, go to college, go to work, get married, make babies, grow old, die" type of life. That's not appealing at all to me, but I guess it is for many more "normal" individuals.

I've asked my boyfriend what the point of life is and why he wants to live a few times, and he always says "to have fun". To me, a chronically depressed person who hasn't felt true fun for about 21 years, I just can't relate at all.
Others say to love, but, love is painful for me. Others say for enjoyment of their work, or family, but I still can't really understand from a personal POV; the entire system of working 40+ hours/week seems to make life even more meaningless, and my family is screwed up and I do live for them, but I resent it.

But for them, those things make sense I suppose. Those things must align with their values or personalities and personal reasoning. I don't really expect to ever be able to fully understand.

 

[Desperate_Soul]

This is going to be long, but I hope it's somewhat understandable.

Personally, though I don't consider myself "normal"(I've been chronically suicidal since I was just 6 years old), when I feel like I want to live it's always to help other people.

I too believe that life is pointless. When there is pain, it hardly seems worth it when all we have to look forward to is death and being forgotten, or only being remembered by others who will simply die and be forgotten too. There has been a lot of pain in my life, and it's a daily struggle to continue while I feel that life is so entirely pointless.

When I'm doing well or fighting to live (to not have my family suffer as I do), I want to live to help those who do want to live or those who are on the fence about it.

I'm a teacher's aide and to the kids I work with, or most I assume, life is real, hopeful, exciting, and meaningful.

To my kids, they don't seem like they question it. Life is real and meaningful in their eyes, and their education and futures matter to them and their parents. If I can make the learning experience more pleasant and simple for them, that's good for me-because this is real and matters to them, even if it all seems pointless in the end from my own personal perspective.

Idk if that makes sense. Like, I wonder half the time if I'm just dreaming because life just doesn't make sense and feels meaningless since we all just die anyway. It feels dumb to me, to continue to suffer when really I don't have to because in the end nothing will matter at all.
But to my kids they don't seem to feel that way.

Additionally, I grew up in an incredibly abusive household. Even if nothing matters in the end, the journey to the end is real to us and some of us have an abnormally shitty path to that end. I had one good teacher who was one of the only people in my life who made me feel worthwhile and loved. When I got home, I would return to being invisible until someone wanted a rag doll to beat up on. I went to bed daily fearing that I would be raped because I was being abused and that was the next step. It was hell. I was also picked on and beat on at school. My teacher and my grandparents were the only people who showed me kindness and cared about me at all. Even now when I cry and no one's there to comfort me, I think of my grandma and I feel empty and miss her deeply because she was the only person who ever comforted me and told me it was ok to cry.

I figure, if I can make someone else's journey to the end a little more comfortable or enjoyable, if I can make them feel loved or cared for when maybe they might not feel that at all otherwise, that's worth it for me a lot of times, and gives me some meaning and purpose to live.

When I'm doing extremely badly and don't care about life at all, it's difficult for me to work/ care about work or others some of the time. When I'm doing a little better, I just find purpose in trying to help someone else have a positive journey.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of a game I actually really like called "Journey" as well. I love it because it closely mirrors reality for me. I think a lot of people find it boring,pointless,or confusing, just like real life. It's actually a really beautiful game. The point is experiencing the game instead of just waiting for the prize at the end or whatever.

But, yes. I stay alive in hopes that others won't experience my pain, or at least less than they might otherwise. I never in my life understood the "go to school, go to college, go to work, get married, make babies, grow old, die" type of life. That's not appealing at all to me, but I guess it is for many more "normal" individuals.

I've asked my boyfriend what the point of life is and why he wants to live a few times, and he always says "to have fun". To me, a chronically depressed person who hasn't felt true fun for about 21 years, I just can't relate at all.
Others say to love, but, love is painful for me. Others say for enjoyment of their work, or family, but I still can't really understand from a personal POV; the entire system of working 40+ hours/week seems to make life even more meaningless, and my family is screwed up and I do live for them, but I resent it.

But for them, those things make sense I suppose. Those things must align with their values or personalities and personal reasoning. I don't really expect to ever be able to fully understand.

Awesome thoughtful post! I really enjoyed reading it. Kids are so innocent, we must protect them at all cost. Some people really do appreciate and enjoy life, I guess they're determined or have found, or wanting to find, their 'purpose in life'. They put meaning into every little thing they do and feel it's not time wasted. It's like wondering why we take pictures... for "memory's sake". How they were raised, values, personalities and personal reasoning do play a big role.

 

[bigj75]

Awesome thoughtful post! I really enjoyed reading it. Kids are so innocent, we must protect them at all cost. Some people really do appreciate and enjoy life, I guess they're determined or have found, or wanting to find, their 'purpose in life'. They put meaning into every little thing they do and feel it's not time wasted. It's like wondering why we take pictures... for "memory's sake". How they were raised, values, personalities and personal reasoning do play a big role.

Also if we treated everything as if it didn't matter should would go down the drain rearly quick.

 

[Aesthler]

Yeah normal people seem normal on the outside and they may seem to enjoy life but something tells me everyone's at least thought about dying or fantasized about it in some way. Maybe not as extreme as actually researching methods of suicide but I think everyone wants an escape from reality at some point. My ex used to tell me she wishes she could have an aneurysm when we would be fighting about something that stressed her out. We all want a way out of problems and stress.

 

[KillVenus]

This is going to be long, but I hope it's somewhat understandable.

Personally, though I don't consider myself "normal"(I've been chronically suicidal since I was just 6 years old), when I feel like I want to live it's always to help other people.

I too believe that life is pointless. When there is pain, it hardly seems worth it when all we have to look forward to is death and being forgotten, or only being remembered by others who will simply die and be forgotten too. There has been a lot of pain in my life, and it's a daily struggle to continue while I feel that life is so entirely pointless.

When I'm doing well or fighting to live (to not have my family suffer as I do), I want to live to help those who do want to live or those who are on the fence about it.

I'm a teacher's aide and to the kids I work with, or most I assume, life is real, hopeful, exciting, and meaningful.

To my kids, they don't seem like they question it. Life is real and meaningful in their eyes, and their education and futures matter to them and their parents. If I can make the learning experience more pleasant and simple for them, that's good for me-because this is real and matters to them, even if it all seems pointless in the end from my own personal perspective.

Idk if that makes sense. Like, I wonder half the time if I'm just dreaming because life just doesn't make sense and feels meaningless since we all just die anyway. It feels dumb to me, to continue to suffer when really I don't have to because in the end nothing will matter at all.
But to my kids they don't seem to feel that way.

Additionally, I grew up in an incredibly abusive household. Even if nothing matters in the end, the journey to the end is real to us and some of us have an abnormally shitty path to that end. I had one good teacher who was one of the only people in my life who made me feel worthwhile and loved. When I got home, I would return to being invisible until someone wanted a rag doll to beat up on. I went to bed daily fearing that I would be raped because I was being abused and that was the next step. It was hell. I was also picked on and beat on at school. My teacher and my grandparents were the only people who showed me kindness and cared about me at all. Even now when I cry and no one's there to comfort me, I think of my grandma and I feel empty and miss her deeply because she was the only person who ever comforted me and told me it was ok to cry.

I figure, if I can make someone else's journey to the end a little more comfortable or enjoyable, if I can make them feel loved or cared for when maybe they might not feel that at all otherwise, that's worth it for me a lot of times, and gives me some meaning and purpose to live.

When I'm doing extremely badly and don't care about life at all, it's difficult for me to work/ care about work or others some of the time. When I'm doing a little better, I just find purpose in trying to help someone else have a positive journey.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of a game I actually really like called "Journey" as well. I love it because it closely mirrors reality for me. I think a lot of people find it boring,pointless,or confusing, just like real life. It's actually a really beautiful game. The point is experiencing the game instead of just waiting for the prize at the end or whatever.

But, yes. I stay alive in hopes that others won't experience my pain, or at least less than they might otherwise. I never in my life understood the "go to school, go to college, go to work, get married, make babies, grow old, die" type of life. That's not appealing at all to me, but I guess it is for many more "normal" individuals.

I've asked my boyfriend what the point of life is and why he wants to live a few times, and he always says "to have fun". To me, a chronically depressed person who hasn't felt true fun for about 21 years, I just can't relate at all.
Others say to love, but, love is painful for me. Others say for enjoyment of their work, or family, but I still can't really understand from a personal POV; the entire system of working 40+ hours/week seems to make life even more meaningless, and my family is screwed up and I do live for them, but I resent it.

But for them, those things make sense I suppose. Those things must align with their values or personalities and personal reasoning. I don't really expect to ever be able to fully understand.

You grew up with struggle and I feel sorry for you but you have a reason to fight. You have to fight because of your pain and your ability to try to help people I believe that one day you'll be out of your own hell but in my case I don't experienced any pain because nothing is hard enough to hurt me but nothing is interesting enough to make me want to stay alive that's maybe why I'm not interested by life at all I'm empty af

 

[KillVenus]

Yeah normal people seem normal on the outside and they may seem to enjoy life but something tells me everyone's at least thought about dying or fantasized about it in some way. Maybe not as extreme as actually researching methods of suicide but I think everyone wants an escape from reality at some point. My ex used to tell me she wishes she could have an aneurysm when we would be fighting about something that stressed her out. We all want a way out of problems and stress.

You are maybe right, thinking bout death even if it's not with suicidal thoughts can help you escape from your pain but my problem is that I ain't got no problem nor stress but i also never felt happiness, Love or other stuff like that. That's maybe why I wanna die...

 

[Aesthler]

You are maybe right, thinking bout death even if it's not with suicidal thoughts can help you escape from your pain but my problem is that I ain't got no problem nor stress but i also never felt happiness, Love or other stuff like that. That's maybe why I wanna die...

Lack of emotions can be just as bad as having constant pain from negative ones. I mean we all want to experience joy, that's the main goal in life as an emotional creature. Without it life seems rather pointless, why go on and on without ever getting to experience anything really let alone anything good.

 

[KillVenus]

Lack of emotions can be just as bad as having constant pain from negative ones. I mean we all want to experience joy, that's the main goal in life as an emotional creature. Without it life seems rather pointless, why go on and on without ever getting to experience anything really let alone anything good.

That's funny because this is not my goal in life as I said I ain't got no goal I'm just bored and empty af

 

[VincentValentine]

Because a lot of people have really good lives and haven't been shitted on by life like most of us here. Most of these "normies" have a great job/career, great romantic relationships, lots of friends, family that care about them and respect them, they could be talented, having fun in life, well liked and respected by everyone, or finanically well off. For most, if they had lives like that, of course they would want to live full lives instead of committing suicide.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

Even assuming things go relatively well I can't imagine loving life. You get a soul-draining job, get married to someone who tolerates you, raise kids long enough for them to despise you, all while pretending to be fine and balancing on the brink of financial ruin until you're maybe lucky enough to retire with a measly pension. If nothing else, I'm glad people like us are starting to ask questions and go "what the fuck are we all doing?"

 

[bigj75]

Because a lot of people have really good lives and haven't been shitted on by life like most of us here. Most of these "normies" have a great job/career, great romantic relationships, lots of friends, family that care about them and respect them, they could be talented, well liked and respected by everyone, or finanically well off. For most, if they had lives like that, of course they would want to live full lives instead of committing suicide.

Agreed. Hell my life was like that for a few years and i had rarely any intentions for suicide at that point. Everything was good.

 

[KillVenus]

Even assuming things go relatively well I can't imagine loving life. You get a soul-draining job, get married to someone who tolerates you, raise kids long enough for them to despise you, all while pretending to be fine and balancing on the brink of financial ruin until you're maybe lucky enough to retire with a measly pension. If nothing else, I'm glad people like us are starting to ask questions and go "what the fuck are we all doing?"

WoW Man I Luv you, that's exactly what I tried to say. That's maybe a negative post but this is probably the more logic meaning of life because there's no meaning only shitty casual events

 

[Punished snake]

They can cope with small everyday illusions or long-term illusions; generally they had normal lives with small degrees of sadness and social contexts that helped them

 

[Mr2005]

Hi ! (First, I'm a newbie and a french guy so my English is probably bad be indulgent with me (^w^))

I'm sad not about myself but about the « normal » people, the ones who want to live...

Why ? I'll explain

The fact that life is meaningless is not a news for you guys and a lot of non-suicidal people knows that but for a unknown reason they don't want to leave this world

The "after system" is a good thing to see the life as an useless thing :

You born and after ?
You grow up as a kid then a teen then as an adult and after ?
You get a job and after ?
You find your future wife/husband
and after ?
You marry her/him and after ?
You've got a child and a second one and a third one and after ?
You watch them growing up with probably the same mental struggles than you and after ?
You "enjoy" your last years with you wife/husband in a trip around the world and after ?
Then you f*cking die.

And "normal" people is ok with that... My mom said that the meaning of her life was to watch her childs growing up I was like "wtf mom it's a shitty reason to live" and if the most of the people in the world think like that they all f*cked up and I still don't know why they find that as a good reason to live

So I wanted your thoughts bout this...

For you why normal people still want to live?

Because normal people don't think like that. That's why they're normal

 

[Final Escape]

Hi ! (First, I'm a newbie and a french guy so my English is probably bad be indulgent with me (^w^))

I'm sad not about myself but about the « normal » people, the ones who want to live...

Why ? I'll explain

The fact that life is meaningless is not a news for you guys and a lot of non-suicidal people knows that but for a unknown reason they don't want to leave this world

The "after system" is a good thing to see the life as an useless thing :

You born and after ?
You grow up as a kid then a teen then as an adult and after ?
You get a job and after ?
You find your future wife/husband
and after ?
You marry her/him and after ?
You've got a child and a second one and a third one and after ?
You watch them growing up with probably the same mental struggles than you and after ?
You "enjoy" your last years with you wife/husband in a trip around the world and after ?
Then you f*cking die.

And "normal" people is ok with that... My mom said that the meaning of her life was to watch her childs growing up I was like "wtf mom it's a shitty reason to live" and if the most of the people in the world think like that they all f*cked up and I still don't know why they find that as a good reason to live

So I wanted your thoughts bout this...

For you why normal people still want to live?

Because it's a miracle that we are here, and some of life is fun and meaningful. Largely life is suffering though for most people even if they look happy. You pretty much have to aim at things that are meaningful to justify the suffering. When I was young I saw the world the same way as you. What's the point of this? I did have a very skewed reality because too many tragedies in my childhood and even young adulthood.

 

[2CropcircleUNeedHelp]

Hi ! (First, I'm a newbie and a french guy so my English is probably bad be indulgent with me (^w^))

I'm sad not about myself but about the « normal » people, the ones who want to live...

Why ? I'll explain

The fact that life is meaningless is not a news for you guys and a lot of non-suicidal people knows that but for a unknown reason they don't want to leave this world

The "after system" is a good thing to see the life as an useless thing :

You born and after ?
You grow up as a kid then a teen then as an adult and after ?
You get a job and after ?
You find your future wife/husband
and after ?
You marry her/him and after ?
You've got a child and a second one and a third one and after ?
You watch them growing up with probably the same mental struggles than you and after ?
You "enjoy" your last years with you wife/husband in a trip around the world and after ?
Then you f*cking die.

And "normal" people is ok with that... My mom said that the meaning of her life was to watch her childs growing up I was like "wtf mom it's a shitty reason to live" and if the most of the people in the world think like that they all f*cked up and I still don't know why they find that as a good reason to live

So I wanted your thoughts bout this...

For you why normal people still want to live?

People enjoy life because they are vulnerable enough to connect with people. Connecting with people takes a certain amount of acting to get what you want across.

 

[Susannah]

"The fact that life is meaningless is not news for you guys"

It's not a fact for everyone here. Being pro-choice does not automatically mean you do not value life.

Some people enjoy life with all of the ups and downs that come with it. Some people were not faced with impassable barriers.

I agree with Ben here. Some "normal" people seem to actually enjoy life. I believe they think less about existentiel matters. They just accept life as it is. Personally I find them a bit boring to talk to, too much bla bla. When that said, I envy them as well.

 

[KillVenus]

I agree with Ben here. Some "normal" people seem to actually enjoy life. I believe they think less about existentiel matters. They just accept life as it is. Personally I find them a bit boring to talk to, too much bla bla. When that said, I envy them as well.

I agree with that, I envy the ones who don't care about existential questions like « wtf I supposed to do on earth? » but unfortunately i'm Born with theses questions stuck in my mind

 

[checking out]

I agree with Ben here. Some "normal" people seem to actually enjoy life. I believe they think less about existentiel matters. They just accept life as it is. Personally I find them a bit boring to talk to, too much bla bla. When that said, I envy them as well.

Hey Susannah yeah I hear ya. I was asked by my psych once if I would prefer to be someone that isn't plagued by existential questions and nagged by the reality (well, it's mine I suppose) that life is meaningless. To be honest I reckon I would.

 

[Revok]

The "after system" is a good thing to see the life as an useless thing :

You born and after ?
You grow up as a kid then a teen then as an adult and after ?
You get a job and after ?
You find your future wife/husband
and after ?
You marry her/him and after ?
You've got a child and a second one and a third one and after ?
You watch them growing up with probably the same mental struggles than you and after ?
You "enjoy" your last years with you wife/husband in a trip around the world and after ?
Then you f*cking die.

I'm obviously not enarmored with the concept of life, but that's a pretty reductionist view even by my standards.
To phrase it as an inspirational quote: "It's not about the destination, it's about the journey."
Many people, and I'm sure there are some here as well, have no problem playing objectively "pointless" video games, because subjectively it is enjoyable to them. And that includes experiences like being frustrated and then feeling good when you overcome a challenge.
Watching an entertaining movie or show, or reading a novel is no different. It's about having an enjoyable time, not so much about where you end up at the end.
The same can be applied to life. It has it's ups and downs, but most people perceive the net result as positive. And that's their subjective opinion so you can't really tell them they are wrong about that.

Some people are also just naturally more happy than others even if their circumstances might seem worse. It's partially learned and partially just genetic lottery. So what one person might perceive as a meaningless and dull existence might be full of joy to another. And it has much to do with how your expectations match up with what you get. In relation to most of the animal kingdom, and even poorer countries, what we get in life seems like a pretty good deal, but our needs and expectations have gone up accordingly, even just over the past decades.

There's a natural variance in that and also in circumstances of life we end up in, and naturally some people will end up way behind the curve. But most people won't.

TLDR, my main points are:
1. Just because something doesn't have a higher purpose doesn't mean there is no reason to do it.
2. While life is not always enjoyable, for most people it is "enjoyable enough".

 

[Rocky M]

I said this in a previous post, but it could also be applied here. "Normal" humans are afraid to explore a possible solution, but won't do it because of how mentally conditioned they are to resist the idea.

I feel bad for them, unable to bring themselves to investigate something that their fellow humans find healing and/or fulfilling

 

[KillVenus]

I'm obviously not enarmored with the concept of life, but that's a pretty reductionist view even by my standards.
To phrase it as an inspirational quote: "It's not about the destination, it's about the journey."
Many people, and I'm sure there are some here as well, have no problem playing objectively "pointless" video games, because subjectively it is enjoyable to them. And that includes experiences like being frustrated and then feeling good when you overcome a challenge.
Watching an entertaining movie or show, or reading a novel is no different. It's about having an enjoyable time, not so much about where you end up at the end.
The same can be applied to life. It has it's ups and downs, but most people perceive the net result as positive. And that's their subjective opinion so you can't really tell them they are wrong about that.

Some people are also just naturally more happy than others even if their circumstances might seem worse. It's partially learned and partially just genetic lottery. So what one person might perceive as a meaningless and dull existence might be full of joy to another. And it has much to do with how your expectations match up with what you get. In relation to most of the animal kingdom, and even poorer countries, what we get in life seems like a pretty good deal, but our needs and expectations have gone up accordingly, even just over the past decades.

There's a natural variance in that and also in circumstances of life we end up in, and naturally some people will end up way behind the curve. But most people won't.

TLDR, my main points are:
1. Just because something doesn't have a higher purpose doesn't mean there is no reason to do it.
2. While life is not always enjoyable, for most people it is "enjoyable enough".

I know you want to show me, with the example with the video games, that the most important is the journey but don't compare movies or video games with life because that's not the same things...Bad or good, a video games doesn't matter in your whole life
Whereas the most important in life is...life so it had to be good to enjoy your life. For me if life doesn't got no real purpose then it's pointless. And I'm envious of those people who can deal with the pointlessness of their life.

 

[Revok]

Whereas the most important in life is...life

I'd say your error is here. The most important thing in life is whatever you decide is most important t you. For most regular people that is not "life itself", but something more along the lines of their career, their family, art or their religion etc., and it doesn't have to be the same for every person, can change over time and can also be a mix of several things.

I agree there is no objective purpose, but nothing in the entire universe has an objective purpose, so life not having one doesn't seem like a huge problem to me. In fact I prefer it this way. It means we are free to do with it as we please.