Why normal people want to live ?

[PatKat]

People can definitely be happy. I grew up in an abusive home and left it at 18 commited to have a different life. And I managed to do that never letting anything get in my way. I definitely was happy for a very long time

And now you are here...

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I Went to a doctor perfectly healthy just to see how I could be even healthier this past May. He told me I was so sick and my blood work was horrible. He bullied me that I needed to take ambien and a benzo bc I needed sleep. I fought bc I practice holistic medicine by he scared me and I left with prescriptions. Four days later I was so sick and then a week later most of my hair was fried and fell out. I had long thick hair all do my life and now devastated

Sorry to hear that! Is there no way of reversing the affects?! Has the sickness subsided ?? You don't need hair to look good.

I have the doctors Thursday.. better be careful what I say...

 

[Shay]

And now you are here...

Yes because of a quack doctor who ruined my life 4 months ago. But I would have still been happy and loving life if I never knew him

 

[KillVenus]

I think its all lies no one can be happy. Then again I have a few diagnosed mental illnesses so i could be wrong... I just hate this place I get to leave soon though.

I sending you energy to do what you wanna do bro I won't judging what you planned

 

[Shay]

Sorry to hear that! Is there no way of reversing the affects?! Has the sickness subsided ?? You don't need hair to look good.

I have the doctors Thursday.. better be careful what I say...

Sickness has gone mostly. Hair is not coming back. And for me that's so devastating as a woman

 

[PatKat]

Yes because of a quack doctor who ruined my life 4 months ago. But I would have still been happy and loving life if I never knew him

But still do you see what I am saying?

 

[Shay]

But still do you see what I am saying?

I guess not. I do believe in happiness and would still have it if not robbed. That's why I'm so depressed.

 

[KillVenus]

Idk. I guess having meaning makes you feel better. I mean you can either kill yourself, do nothing, or try to find something that makes you feel really good that gives you meaning and hold onto that for as long as you can. I remember even when i felt like their was no god and life had no meaning for me anymore. I just enjoyed the simple pleasures in life after that. Which for awhile was enough for me.

Oh that's cool you found your way it means you can find something permanent against life s problems if you try to look further it would be nice to be like you

 

[Pointlessabyss]

Sickness has gone mostly. Hair is not coming back. And for me that's so devastating as a woman

Dang that doctor is a dick! Don't want to preach or anything but women can look good without hair, there are options such as wigs etc. Know you women lover your hair! Hopefully you can come to terms with it and come to love yourself again!

 

[Shay]

Dang that doctor is a dick! Don't want to preach or anything but women can look good without hair, there are options such as wigs etc. Know you women lover your hair! Hopefully you can come to terms with it and come to love yourself again!

I don't think so. I want to CBT as soon as possible because women with hair loss really aren't seen as humans.

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I don't think so. I want to CBT as soon as possible because women with hair loss really aren't seen as humans.

Haven't you seen people like amber rose with a buzz cut? Not going to say anything else. You've got your own free will to do as you please! Good luck

 

[Shay]

Haven't you seen people like amber rose with a buzz cut? Not going to say anything else. You've got your own free will to do as you please! Good luck

I have. That's not me. I had long thick auburn hair which was so unique. Buzz would never cut it for me. I lost my entire identity

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I have. That's not me. I had long thick auburn hair which was so unique. Buzz would never cut it for me. I lost my entire identity

Just a suggestion, What about a wig? You may have to swallow some pride but they are really good these days and it may help you get some of yourself back.

 

[bigj75]

Oh that's cool you found your way it means you can find something permanent against life s problems if you try to look further it would be nice to be like you

Thanks. Yae I remember in football simply getting better with the more practice i did was so full filling. Coaches congratulating you, teammates, chearing you on, etc. Life may not have meaning but in moments like that recognising your hard work and getting positive feedback from others was pleasurable and made all the suffering in life justifiable enough to keep going. So chasing that feeling in my opinion is what most people are after and why they keep going.

Do you have any dreams, hobbies, etc that interest you?

 

[Shay]

Just a suggestion, What about a wig? You may have to swallow some pride but they are really good these days and it may help you get some of yourself back.

I really just want to die at this point

 

[Taylored]

I think this quote is a good start. "Life asked Death, 'Why do people love me but hate you?' Death responded, 'Because you are a beautiful lie, and I'm the painful truth.'" Normal people don't want to accept the fact they will have to face death eventually. And Normal people ignore it to keep comfort and feel accomplished.

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I really just want to die at this point

Sorry if I didn't help. That's why we are all here unfortunately!

Last little preach : why do you think people without hair can't be beautiful? Is it because you generally think they are unattractive? Or is it because the way society has portrayed the way women have got to be ?

Like I said it's your life and your choices, so good luck with whatever you choose !

 

[Shay]

Sorry if I didn't help. That's why we are all here unfortunately!

Last little preach : why do you think people without hair can't be beautiful? Is it because you generally think they are unattractive? Or is it because the way society has portrayed the way women have got to be ?

Like I said it's your life and your choices, so good luck with whatever you choose !

Not women. Me. I guess it was a huge part of myself and the freedom that's lost by wearing a wig Is huge. I've already researched. There's so much you can't do bc
Of a wig and I'm a free spirit. I don't like to be held down so death to me is recapturing my freedom

 

[Pointlessabyss]

Not women. Me. I guess it was a huge part of myself and the freedom that's lost by wearing a wig Is huge. I've already researched. There's so much you can't do bc
Of a wig and I'm a free spirit. I don't like to be held down so death to me is recapturing my freedom

I'm sorry you've been backed into this corner and feel like it's your only option. Unfortunately life's a bitch and we can't see what's around the corner! Shit happens you either deal with it or succumb to it! Sorry you've found your breaking point!

(I don't mean to preach in any of the posts but feel like I have, I'm completely respectful of your wishes just wanted to make sure you've considered all angles)

 

[Shay]

I'm sorry you've been backed into this corner and feel like it's your only option. Unfortunately life's a bitch and we can't see what's around the corner! Shit happens you either deal with it or succumb to it! Sorry you've found your breaking point!

(I don't mean to preach in any of the posts but feel like I have, I'm completely respectful of your wishes just wanted to make sure you've considered all angles)

I've spent 4 months thinking about this and weighing pros and cons. I just think for me life isn't worth living anymore.

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I've spent 4 months thinking about this and weighing pros and cons. I just think for me life isn't worth living anymore.

Completely respect that, as long as your comfortable in your decision I'm fully supportive

 

[windingdown]

I'm at my family's house this weekend, which I always really enjoy. Several of my family members are genuinely happy people, and others may contemplate the meaning of life, but continue to consider it worthwhile and somehow meaningful.

I had a pretty happy life age 19-30. I had struggled as a teen, but had a mostly happy childhood. I experienced bouts of depression as an adult, but wasn't at all suicidal. I found life interesting, enriching, and rewarding, and always felt like there was plenty to look forward to. I was one of the people who I now don't understand, and who I envy. Someone who takes life seriously.

I was at a museum today, looking around at people, especially 30s and older, wondering how they keep engaging with life, finding it interesting, find it worth going on for. I remembered my old self there, the one who was fascinated by museums (I am 31).

But you know who probably wasn't at the museum? The depressed people, the disabled, the older people who have lost interest in life and are just trying to get through the day. The ones who can scarcely get out of bed.

 

[CantGoOn]

Hi ! (First, I'm a newbie and a french guy so my English is probably bad be indulgent with me (^w^))

I'm sad not about myself but about the « normal » people, the ones who want to live...

Why ? I'll explain

The fact that life is meaningless is not a news for you guys and a lot of non-suicidal people knows that but for a unknown reason they don't want to leave this world

The "after system" is a good thing to see the life as an useless thing :

You born and after ?
You grow up as a kid then a teen then as an adult and after ?
You get a job and after ?
You find your future wife/husband
and after ?
You marry her/him and after ?
You've got a child and a second one and a third one and after ?
You watch them growing up with probably the same mental struggles than you and after ?
You "enjoy" your last years with you wife/husband in a trip around the world and after ?
Then you f*cking die.

And "normal" people is ok with that... My mom said that the meaning of her life was to watch her childs growing up I was like "wtf mom it's a shitty reason to live" and if the most of the people in the world think like that they all f*cked up and I still don't know why they find that as a good reason to live

So I wanted your thoughts bout this...

For you why normal people still want to live?

An addiction to their ego, wanting to be recognized for what they achieved, how they look, things they do. An addiction to the temporary reprieve from suffering.

 

[CantGoOn]

Just a suggestion, What about a wig? You may have to swallow some pride but they are really good these days and it may help you get some of yourself back.

I've lost majority of my hair due to several reasons every time it starts to grow in something will trigger another loss.

I wear wigs very rarely since it feels suffocating and also most don't suit me since I have small features. It looks very wiggy.

I do wear headscarves but that makes me highly unapproachable as a white girl. Even an online friend told me no ones going to approach me since they don't know what to make of me, aka chemo patient or diseased.

It sucks but I don't leave my house anymore so doesn't matter.

 

[Pointlessabyss]

I've lost majority of my hair due to several reasons every time it starts to grow in something will trigger another loss.

I wear wigs very rarely since it feels suffocating and also most don't suit me since I have small features. It looks very wiggy.

I do wear headscarves but that makes me highly unapproachable as a white girl. Even an online friend told me no ones going to approach me since they don't know what to make of me, aka chemo patient or diseased.

It sucks but I don't leave my house anymore so doesn't matter.

Sorry for my oversights earlier, it's easy to say from my position to try and accept yourself / there are options. After having time to reflect on it, I can't begin to imagine how you two must feel.
Society's warped logic of what's normal and acceptable is unfortunately what everyone try's to adhere to. Hoping you can find a way to see past it and take on my attitude of not giving a fuck but it took me a while to get here. Good wishes to you both!

 

[checking out]

Interesting thread everyone. I think about this stuff a lot, as I'm sure most of us do that are considering our future. I believe many people do not consider the 'meaning of life' at all. They do not question whether there is a meaning to it all, or consider that we are, indeed, organisms that are programmed to live, procreate, care for our progeny, then die. They just follow the program. Are they happier and more content than I am? Undoubtedly. But for those of us born (cursed) with a critical mind, realising the inherent pointlessness of out lives raises fundamental issues. For me, it is distilled down to this - My life is inherently pointless, however can I still enjoy it? I have really only got to this point in my thinking in the last few years (perhaps I'm a bit thick). And for the last 4 years the answer has been no. In place of enjoyment I have had pain, disappointment, struggle, hurt, disillusionment, dissatisfaction, confusion, frustration, and helplessness. I feel that even if I can change, even if I can struggle out of the abyss I am in, even if I can work my guts out and somehow get 'better', then the reward I will receive is life. And life is inherently pointless. That's not a very attractive prize.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

pretty arrogant to judge about others people lifes and whether those are worth living or not

 

[KillVenus]

pretty arrogant to judge about others people lifes and whether those are worth living or not

WoW, I'm not judging anything I'm just saying that even if you have the most successful or the happiest life you'll just die like everybody else on earth so how can you find motivation or satisfaction knowing that life is useless because you die at the end...and even if you were immortal or if we put the death problem away...it's like a game we don't care about the end because what did you expect when you start the game ? You know that you spend your time on something useless there are achievements in game and in life too but it just another detail on your character description where is the motivation or the satisfaction at achieve something useless ? so this why I meant when I created the thread and I still mean that but I want to make it clear to those who don't understand because I'm not really good when i wanna put my thoughts on a text so it was obvious to be taken as an arrogant guy

 

[Miss clefable]

What is normal?

 

[KillVenus]

Interesting thread everyone. I think about this stuff a lot, as I'm sure most of us do that are considering our future. I believe many people do not consider the 'meaning of life' at all. They do not question whether there is a meaning to it all, or consider that we are, indeed, organisms that are programmed to live, procreate, care for our progeny, then die. They just follow the program. Are they happier and more content than I am? Undoubtedly. But for those of us born (cursed) with a critical mind, realising the inherent pointlessness of out lives raises fundamental issues. For me, it is distilled down to this - My life is inherently pointless, however can I still enjoy it? I have really only got to this point in my thinking in the last few years (perhaps I'm a bit thick). And for the last 4 years the answer has been no. In place of enjoyment I have had pain, disappointment, struggle, hurt, disillusionment, dissatisfaction, confusion, frustration, and helplessness. I feel that even if I can change, even if I can struggle out of the abyss I am in, even if I can work my guts out and somehow get 'better', then the reward I will receive is life. And life is inherently pointless. That's not a very attractive prize.

Wow that's it ! this is one of the things I thought when I created the thread except the part when it says « They do not question whether there is a meaning to it all, or consider that we are, indeed, organisms that are programmed to live, procreate, care for our progeny, then die » because human creates some others details to the program like the love the hate the need to have friends...so he hurting itself because he had some new problems in the equation