Why is nitrous oxide not talked about more?

[cocobutter]

I've heard people say nitrous oxide is as good of a method as Nembutal and it's also fairly easy to obtain and yet I can't find much about the method in here. Like what is the method? How to use it do anyone know?

 

[babyneo1]

Check PPH, exit bag

 

[cocobutter]

Check PPH, exit bag

That's nitrogen gas, there's nothing about nitrous oxide

 

[froggirl9000]

Exit bags in general have been eclipsed by SN and people who haven't got the memo that N is impossible to obtain, and anyone who doesn't like those two is likely gonna opt for hanging due to accessibility. If one decided to focus their attention on exit bags anyway, most resources on exit bags tend to focus on helium and, in some cases, nitrogen.

 

[cocobutter]

Exit bags in general have been eclipsed by SN and people who haven't got the memo that N is impossible to obtain, and anyone who doesn't like those two is likely gonna opt for hanging due to accessibility. If one decided to focus their attention on exit bags anyway, most resources on exit bags tend to focus on helium and, in some cases, nitrogen.

Nitrous oxide is also done by exit bag method? Damn I thought those little cartridges would do the job.

 

[LittleJem]

Nitrous oxide is also done by exit bag method? Damn I thought those little cartridges would do the job.

I think you just need thw gas in a bag, but no need for a flow of the gas (as with nitrogen), just a bag full of it. So, I think it is easier to obtain...

 

[Black Sheep One]

I found a full 640 g container. I did not find the outlet nozzle. Sadly, I know little about a method... My homeland has banded the sale of such items...

 

[cocobutter]

I found a full 640 g container. I did not find the outlet nozzle. Sadly, I know little about a method... My homeland has banded the sale of such items...

It's strange that a method some people say is on par with Nembutal is not talked about at all.

I think you just need thw gas in a bag, but no need for a flow of the gas (as with nitrogen), just a bag full of it. So, I think it is easier to obtain...

Are you sure?

 

[LittleJem]

It's strange that a method some people say is on par with Nembutal is not talked about at all.

Are you sure?

Read up on it on this site: that is what I read here. There are some threads on it

 

[Intoxicated]

I've heard people say nitrous oxide is as good of a method as Nembutal and it's also fairly easy to obtain and yet I can't find much about the method in here. Like what is the method? How to use it do anyone know?

I wouldn't consider nitrous oxide asphyxiation as a distinct single method. The generic method is gas asphyxiation, that is, displacing oxygen from the lungs by inhaling a simple asphyxiant. Implementations of this method may vary by the agent (gas) used for asphyxiation, by the source of the gas, and by the method of its administration.

The agent may be any gas that displaces oxygen and doesn't cause significant discomfort due to its chemical properties - in particular, helium, nitrogen, argon, tetrafluoroethane, nitrous oxide.

The source of the gas may be a large or medium-size cylinder or small chargers (in case of nitrous oxide).

Methods of administration may use a plastic bag over the head, a face mask, EEBD hood, or even a larger confined space, such as a car (in case if you have a lot of gas).

The most common and widely used approach relies on steady flow of gas coming from a large cylinder, while significantly more rarely used approach relies on loss of consciousness and death produced by low oxygen concentration in an unventilated system.

There are also combined methods, where gas asphyxiation is used only to cause or speed up loss of consciousness and eliminate or significantly reduce the sensitivity to discomfort before a potentially unpleasant CTB method, such as drowning or hanging, is used. In this case, inhalation from a balloon can be one of the most handy ways of administering the gas.

Nitrous oxide is just one of the possible agents, and there is a diversity of ways of how it can be obtained and administered.

Spoiler: Deaths from N₂O (NSFW & graphic content included)

Death from Nitrous Oxide | 10.1111/1556-4029.12879_Science Hub

tesble.com

Fatal Nitrous Oxide Abuse | 10.1080/00085030.1994.10757023_Science Hub

tesble.com

https://www.aafs.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/AAFS-2019-H161.pdf

| 10.1007/s12024-017-9887-0_Science Hub

tesble.com

Autoerotic death from Whippits nitrous oxide cartridges - Herman The Shocker

Kansas, US. Police were dispatched to an apartment complex at the request of a resident, who advised them that he had discovered his roommate on his bed dead

www.hermantheshocker.com

N₂O has some specific properties and availability that can make it more appealing than plain inert gases like nitrogen, but the main mechanism of action is the same for all simple asphyxiants.

As for comparison with Nembutal OD, asphyxiation by nitrous oxide can be more comfortable (you don't have to deal with bitter taste or puncturing your vein) but also likely more difficult to do for an average person.

 

[LittleJem]

I think the nitrous oxide causes quick unconsciousness, which might be why it requires a bag of it, but not a continuous flow. That is why it is less complicated than other gases. I'll see if I can find the info and post it on this thread later.

If anyone in London UK is interested in this method, pls DM me.

Here are some links.

Plastic bag suffocation - PubMed

Suffocation by plastic bag is not common. The finding of a body at the scene of death with a plastic bag in situ could be diagnostically valuable to the pathologist. Otherwise the pathologist may be hard put to arrive at a firm opinion as to how the deceased met his/her death; in fact, in three...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Intoxicated]

I think the nitrous oxide causes quick unconsciousness, which might be why it requires a bag of it, but not a continuous flow.

Plain inert gases can produce loss of consciousness quickly too; the difference in time is insignificant. Inhalation of N₂O has a confirmed effect of reducing subjective discomfort from carbon dioxide (described in the first document linked above and here).

 

[cocobutter]

I wouldn't consider nitrous oxide asphyxiation as a distinct single method. The generic method is gas asphyxiation, that is, displacing oxygen from the lungs by inhaling a simple asphyxiant. Implementations of this method may vary by the agent (gas) used for asphyxiation, by the source of the gas, and by the method of its administration.

The agent may be any gas that displaces oxygen and doesn't cause significant discomfort due to its chemical properties - in particular, helium, nitrogen, argon, tetrafluoroethane, nitrous oxide.

The source of the gas may be a large or medium-size cylinder or small chargers (in case of nitrous oxide).

Methods of administration may use a plastic bag over the head, a face mask, EEBD hood, or even a larger confined space, such as a car (in case if you have a lot of gas).

The most common and widely used approach relies on steady flow of gas coming from a large cylinder, while significantly more rarely used approach relies on loss of consciousness and death produced by low oxygen concentration in an unventilated system.

There are also combined methods, where gas asphyxiation is used only to cause or speed up loss of consciousness and eliminate or significantly reduce the sensitivity to discomfort before a potentially unpleasant CTB method, such as drowning or hanging, is used. In this case, inhalation from a balloon can be one of the most handy ways of administering the gas.

Nitrous oxide is just one of the possible agents, and there is a diversity of ways of how it can be obtained and administered.

Spoiler: Deaths from N₂O (NSFW & graphic content included)

Death from Nitrous Oxide | 10.1111/1556-4029.12879_Science Hub

tesble.com

Fatal Nitrous Oxide Abuse | 10.1080/00085030.1994.10757023_Science Hub

tesble.com

https://www.aafs.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/AAFS-2019-H161.pdf

| 10.1007/s12024-017-9887-0_Science Hub

tesble.com

Autoerotic death from Whippits nitrous oxide cartridges - Herman The Shocker

Kansas, US. Police were dispatched to an apartment complex at the request of a resident, who advised them that he had discovered his roommate on his bed dead

www.hermantheshocker.com

N₂O has some specific properties and availability that can make it more appealing than plain inert gases like nitrogen, but the main mechanism of action is the same for all simple asphyxiants.

As for comparison with Nembutal OD, asphyxiation by nitrous oxide can be more comfortable (you don't have to deal with bitter taste or puncturing your vein) but also likely more difficult to do for an average person.

How is it more difficult to do for an average person? I've heard nitrous oxide is fairly easy to get isn't it?

Read up on it on this site: that is what I read here. There are some threads on it

There are just not any detailed breakdown of a method like other methods have.

 

[Intoxicated]

How is it more difficult to do for an average person? I've heard nitrous oxide is fairly easy to get isn't it?

For passing out without complications, N₂O should be administered in a way that doesn't let more than 25 - 30% air (by volume) added.



Note that loss of consciousness happens faster than the desirable level of anesthesia mentioned above is achieved.