Why is it selfish to kill yourself?

[spectraltease]

why its so selfish to kill myself?
Yeah, thanks for the ppl who supported me and shit but I don't give a shit. I will not even leave a note, fuck you all.
For what I have to apologize or feel guilty about? For finding my freedom?

 

[jodes2]

It's unfortunate that many people see it as selfish, they can't see that they're being more selfish expecting us to stay through it all for so much longer

 

[Julgran]

fuck you all

Fuck you too!

Jokes aside, why do you have the impression that it's selfish for you to end your life...?

 

[FuneralCry]

Some non suicidal people would probably say that suicide is 'selfish' because if someone they knew ctb it would have a negative impact on their lives. Even know suicide may benefit ourselves at the expense of others that in no way means that it's wrong.

We never asked for this life in the first place so therefore we have no obligations to stay here anyway. Nobody should be guilt tripped and forced into enduring a life that they never asked for, nobody else can experience life the way that we do so why should they have any right to interfere. Death, grief and loss are simply inevitable in life and are a consequence of bringing someone into this world. Staying alive is only delaying the inevitable anyway, eventually we will all be gone from this world no matter what so there really is nothing wrong with someone deciding to exit when the time is right for them.

 

[makethepainstop]

why its so selfish to kill myself?
Yeah, thanks for the ppl who supported me and shit but I don't give a shit. I will not even leave a note, fuck you all.
For what I have to apologize or feel guilty about? For finding my freedom?

Bro when your feeling unbearable pain,seeking relief is not selfish. People demanding you to stay here and suffer, now that is selfish. Much love to you and all here.

 

[spectraltease]

Fuck you too!

Jokes aside, why do you have the impression that it's selfish for you to end your life...?

Not fuck you, fuck the ppl who think its selfish to ctb.
I don't think that, I don't understand Why poeple saying this to me.

Bro when your feeling unbearable pain,seeking relief is not selfish. People demanding you to stay here and suffer, now that is selfish. Much love to you and all here.

Thank you bro

 

[Julgran]

Not fuck you, fuck the ppl who think its selfish to ctb.
I don't think that, I don't understand Why poeple saying this to me.

I see! No offence was taken - but you shouldn't feel a need to take offence from anyone else either

Have you opened up about your suicidal ideations to someone who may not want you to end your life, and then they tried to prevent you from doing it...?

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it's natural to feel grief when someone you care about dies. The closer/ more dependent you are on that person- the worse the pain. The 'problem' I think with suicide is that the 'normies' see it as a pain that has been deliberately inflicted upon them- before it 'should' have been. It's selfish in as much as we are thinking of ourselves when we do it (for the most part I imagine). We're at a point where our own pain is so overwhelming, even the thought of causing pain to others isn't enough to stop us.

That's my reasoning behind their views anyhow. I'd like to say it definitely isn't my view (obviously). I think they simply don't see what a dark and desperate place that person was in. Their thinking I suppose is just so different that it's intolerable for them to even consider suicide as a viable option.

 

[SarRy]

To end one's own life is to become literally self-less. People will always consider it selfish to put one's own needs above theirs. Still, don't they put their feelings above someone else's suffering in telling someone to live? Many can simply not conceive of the possibility of simply not wanting to live and think that suicide is instead an attack on others or a petty revenge. They cannot understand that suicide is not about them. It has nothing to do with anyone other than the person who carries out the act. Everything else is secondary at best.

 

[spectraltease]

I see! No offence was taken - but you shouldn't feel a need to take offence from anyone else either

Have you opened up about your suicidal ideations to someone who may not want you to end your life, and then they tried to prevent you from doing it...?

No, its just a society thing i think.

 

[Made4TV]

I don't think it is, with a few exceptions that I do judge if I'm being honest. Suicide by a criminal who is facing consequences is selfish. Suicide by someone who wants nothing more than others pain is selfish. Suicide by someone who causes a stranger trauma, suffering or death is (usually) selfish (Caveat for things like the World Trade Center jumpers, which I don't consider suicide; they were going to die anyway they just chose a different way and innocents on the ground could not have factored into that panicked decision). I also think the circumstances of a suicide can be selfish (ie, date chosen is a child's birthday or something) but usually people who are well and healthy with life advantages don't wake up one day and decide to do this. In the rest of cases I can't classify it as selfish.

I think others who want the suffering suicidal to live in pain so that they personally won't have to deal with grief and loss…that's the selfish party. People who want to punish the suicidal so they don't have to deal with that person's pain, or the issues that are causing the suicidality; those are the selfish ones.

 

[Enoughnow]

It's not in my opinion

 

[AliceTheGoon]

It's not always selfish but it can be. Selfish doesn't have to be bad.

 

[akirat9]

asking this rhetorical question here
no it not

 

[spectraltease]

I don't think it is, with a few exceptions that I do judge if I'm being honest. Suicide by a criminal who is facing consequences is selfish. Suicide by someone who wants nothing more than others pain is selfish. Suicide by someone who causes a stranger trauma, suffering or death is (usually) selfish (Caveat for things like the World Trade Center jumpers, which I don't consider suicide; they were going to die anyway they just chose a different way and innocents on the ground could not have factored into that panicked decision). I also think the circumstances of a suicide can be selfish (ie, date chosen is a child's birthday or something) but usually people who are well and healthy with life advantages don't wake up one day and decide to do this. In the rest of cases I can't classify it as selfish.

I think others who want the suffering suicidal to live in pain so that they personally won't have to deal with grief and loss…that's the selfish party. People who want to punish the suicidal so they don't have to deal with that person's pain, or the issues that are causing the suicidality; those are the selfish ones.

If society wouldn't be so selfish, I wouldn't kill myself. So, I dont care what people think whats selfish or not lol.

 

[akirat9]

If society wouldn't be so selfish, I wouldn't kill myself. So, I dont care what people think whats selfish or not lol.

also talk about society whilst not caring for it. just not care

 

[spectraltease]

also talk about society whilst not caring for it. just not care

Am I interested in society itself? No. Am I interested in the reasons why they think that ctb is selfish? Yes.

 

[akirat9]

Am I interested in society itself? No. Am I interested in the reasons why they think that ctb is selfish? Yes.

is counterinitiative ? maybe I use the wrong word

 

[wanttodie]

yes they're being more selfish expecting us to stay Let us end are life if we want

 

[magnog]

why its so selfish to kill myself?
Yeah, thanks for the ppl who supported me and shit but I don't give a shit. I will not even leave a note, fuck you all.
For what I have to apologize or feel guilty about? For finding my freedom?

"Selfishness" is just a value label negatively applied to people when they refuse to submit to someone else's ideals.

Logically speaking, a case could be made for how selfish it would be to force someone who has already determined life isn't worth living to live so you can fulfill your values through them.

This whole talk of "selfishness vs. selflessness", "good vs. bad", "virtuous vs. vicious" just sounds so crazy to me.

 

[Un-]

Someone that I love, and have loved for years attempted suicide a month ago, and I've never felt so much fear and pain.

It's.. I can't describe it. You think you know how you'd react if someone - your lover, your family, your pets - died, but you really don't.. It's horrible.

So I completely understand why people don't want you to die. I know why people think suicide is selfish. And it is selfish. But also asking someone to continue living in pain is as selfish..

It upsets me that people are arguing over selfishness.. Trying to claim the moral high ground. It's because of this nonsense that suicide will never be discussed properly.. Sigh..

Everyone experiences pain.. Pain that won't go away.

 

[bubo]

I don't think suicide is selfish at all. I think viewing suicide as selfish is selfish. To wish someone to continue their suffering for your own thoughts of what is socially appropriate is inherently selfish cuz' that means one does not actually care about the agony that person is in and is only thinking about themselves and what they want.

 

[Anonymus]

If no one can help you, thinking of yourself is not selfish. If other people want to stop you knowing that nothing can help you, that is selfishness.
Selfishness is deciding on the lives of others when their lives do not belong to you. Deciding on your own life is an exercise of freedom that no one but you can assume, whether or not it is supported by society and its laws.

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Si ningú et pot ajudar, pensar en tu mateix no és egoísta. Si les altres persones volen impedir-t'ho sabent que rés et pot ajudar, això és egoísme.
Egoísme és decidir sobre la vida dels altres quan no et pertanyen les seves vides. Decidir sobre la teva própia vida és un exercici de llibertat que ningú mes que tu pot assumir, sigui o no recolzada per la societat i les seves lleis.

 

[gomenasai]

I think comitting a suicide is not selfish. Others who expect you to live for them even when they know you suffer - that's selfishness. They're just projecting.

 

[sadmeltie]

I really hope you will be able to feel better im going through the same kind of situation ❤

 

[lifeORdeath]

It's the messed up world we live in.
The same folks that say suicide is selfish and prevent it, would be some of the first to cry for executions of a murderer (and sometimes lesser if criminal acts).
These defenders pretend to defend life but then again want it taken or lost only on their own terms. They want folks to suffer until they want someone gone for their reasons. They don't value the opinion or wants of the one suffering who just wants out.

 

[potablewater784]

I see suicide as selfless. One less person to destroy the planet

 

[Timeless]

I see suicide as selfless. One less person to destroy the planet

I see it the same way plus I personally think you are in charge of your own life. If you truly believe that suicide is selfish so is euthanasie then in your / some people eyes.

And I'm really for euthanasie why let people suffer more then we let our pets? Is out life less worthly then a dog as example..

I'm going to try to sign up for euthanasie since my chronic pain is only getting worse and life quality with it. I'm now most happy when I'm in a deep sleep .

Now that winter is coming I'll go hibernate again as usual since a few years.

But I know 3 friends who committed suicide and none of them are selfish. They all had alot of problems in life. Of course I grieve alot but I prefer that then seeing then in agony / unhappy or in unhumane pain.

May they RIP.

 

[thedaywillcome]

Why living a life YOU dont want. For them?

 

[Callie Arcale]

I see suicide as selfless. One less person to destroy the planet

I second that.

And I'd like to add: one less person to inflict pain on others. Because most of us, knowingly or unknowingly, make those around us suffer in some way.