Why is F not the go to?

[Didymus]

what am I missing here?

One word: money

 

[SuiSqueeze92]

All this dark net talk... psssh man you gotta know someone who knows a dude who knows a dude that has a sister, that knows a dude. With the attention that shit has, anything online like that wouldn't be too smart.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

All this dark net talk... psssh man you gotta know someone who knows a dude who knows a dude that has a sister, that knows a dude. With the attention that shit has, anything online like that wouldn't be too smart.

 

[issyishere]

I've dealt with stomach aches my whole entire life. I'd rather deal with it for 20 minutes and be done with it than dealing with it for the rest of my life.

dealing with an intense stomach pain rn lol SN doesn't got anything on me.

 

[Backwood_tilt]

A fatal dose of pure fent is a measly 2mg, or 0.002g.

a gram seems to retail for $200 USD on one of the markets.

This might be the most effective and low cost method to CTB.
Really curious, those settled on F how much are you planning to take?

 

[HopeDiesLast]

I'm not ready to ctb in the near future, but it's comforting to have a method in place. I have everything needed for SN and I didn't have to break any laws. If I was found in possession of it, I'd be fine.

I would LOVE to have F available as a primary method (would prefer it even over N), but I'm not willing to break any laws in order to obtain it. If you're caught with a significant (or any) amount of F you're looking at prison time. I have a decent, secure job, my own roof over my head, and a clean criminal record. I'm not willing to risk all of that -- especially since I may choose not to ctb in the (near) future.

 

[Innereye]

I think a lot of people don't want to bother with the dark net or dealers either.

Tempted to make a guide on how2darknet

 

[Heart of Ice]

Why is hanging not the go to? It only takes about 12 seconds at worst to pass out, and is by far the most accessible method?

Is the point of these threads actual discussion or are they supposed to be provocative just for the sake of being provocative?

 

[Innereye]

All this dark net talk... psssh man you gotta know someone who knows a dude who knows a dude that has a sister, that knows a dude. With the attention that shit has, anything online like that wouldn't be too smart.

Legitimately it's easy as piss. Takes around 10 mins to set up.

 

[Emily123]

what is F?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Why is hanging not the go to? It only takes about 12 seconds at worst to pass out, and is by far the most accessible method?

Is the point of these threads actual discussion or are they supposed to be provocative just for the sake of being provocative?

It depends on what kind of pain the person prefers to endure. Some people don't like the suffocating pain. They think it will backfire on them.

It's supposed to be a discussion but the original post seemed a little condescending to me. At least that's what I think.

 

[Y-B]

what is F?

Fentanyl, a strong opioid.

 

[Emily123]

Why is hanging not the go to? It only takes about 12 seconds at worst to pass out, and is by far the most accessible method?

Is the point of these threads actual discussion or are they supposed to be provocative just for the sake of being provocative?

I can not even think about it . I think it needs some courage to hange yourself .

 

[Chronicillness]

F beats SN for me, but not N. Opioid OD lacks anxiolytic activity and can actually be anxiogenic in some people. N is like a very heavy benzo―it likely helps attenuatre the survival instinct and make you more at peace with your decision. SN doesn't fit my idea of a peaceful death. To be fair though, controlling the circumstances around your death makes for a more peaceful death than what you'd likely experience naturally, no matter the method really. I'm gonna save myself for N most likely, and if not my 2nd choice would likely be H + benzos and not F.

 

[BPD Barbie]

 

[notjustyetagain]

i guess not all methods are accessible/affordable to everyone, not everyone is confident in acquiring all methods, not everyone wants the same qualities in a method or in a method's acquisition, and not all methods are physically/psychologically feasible for everyone. i think that people choose their method for a whole host of reasons, based on a combination of an individual's character and tastes, life circumstances, dying preferences, and more. this combination is unique, and this uniqueness may be why different people settle on different methods.

 

[jgm63]

There are ways to circumvent this. Using your own name is a sure fire way to seal the deal. On the amounts that one would be buying online they would likely not even bother. Like one use said above, you can not prove who sent something to your address. Use someone else's name, that you don't know. There not going to try and fight a case on a gram or two of this mailed to someone with no criminal record.

It seems a little naive to think that using a different name would offer much protection. Law enforcement are obviously not naive and won't simply say "oh, it wasn't them who ordered".
Having an item in an unknown name delivered to an address might increase the chance of that item being checked.
The consensus that I've seen stated in various places is that you're better off ordering using your real name and address.

One warning, I know someone who used the dark web to buy stuff to make some drug or other and ended up with the DEA ringing her doorbell wanting her to explain. The thing about black markets is that you're always at risk of being caught. It may be easy but with the risk of not only having suicide taken but also having to spend time locked up, it's not surprising most people would go with SN.

ok, and what was the outcome ?

 

[LavenderMemories]

This would be my ideal method, but I have no idea what I'm doing.

 

[Quarky00]

Tempted to make a guide on how2darknet

There are several darknet guides here , search .. but you are more than welcomed to make one , adding new info , or making it more accessible! :)

~

A fatal dose of pure fent is a measly 2mg, or 0.002g.
a gram seems to retail for $200 USD on one of the markets.
This might be the most effective and low cost method to CTB.

So that's 0.002g × 200$/g = 40 cents !

Too bad maths aren't real life ... ;)

 

[NaNo210]

F or H OD was actually my go-to method for a while, in my mind anyway. What it came down to for me was the cost. I'm broke as broke gets. I would've gone to a hotel for F/H to buy time due to how easy it is to reverse if found in time. Couldn't afford the hotel or the F/H and already had access to antiemetics (which seem to be the expensive component) for SN.

I know from speaking to people generally about DNMs, there is a lack of knowledge even if the info is there, the amount of steps to remain anonymous puts people off. A lot of people don't use crypto or Tor already, so to use it for something illegal, plus the risk of customs seizure if it is not a domestic vendor, make things feel risky. The IV issue can be circumvented by using other methods.

As with most things though, if you're desperate/determined enough it's a case of seek and you shall find. It does seem like the nicest way to go, cheaper and probably easier to source than N.

 

[Secrets1]

If one is willing to die, one should be able to go through a little bit of pain to do it. It's all about the dedication and determination.

like expanding CPU skills and having an easy backup plan ala hanging or even SN to deal with risks because you're dedicated...?? what a load of hypocrisy.

OP asked reasonable questions, no need to act like that

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Tbh, I somehow can't imagine doing it any other way than through ingestion. Maybe Freud would have something to say about that fact...

 

[Mr2005]

Legitimately it's easy as piss. Takes around 10 mins to set up.

It's not doing a simple task that got me here. I'm not about to start

 

[Daktalsnakal]

I can't seem to grasp why more people are choosing SN, or anything, over F. It seems SN takes a long time and your just sitting there knowing what you did is going to kill you and from some first hand experiences on here it seems unpleasant.

Maybe it's just a personal thing but knowing that I'm dying and a painful death just seem abhorrent to me. I get that there is a risk of failure with OD but I just can't imagine anyone surviving a couple grams of F.

I've talked about it a couple times on here and I must be missing something. I really think a gravity fed IV bag filled with two grams of F just seems like it would be easy to obtain (dark markets for F, online for IV equipment) less than $300, extremely painless and you wouldn't even realize you were going except for the initial few seconds. I've thought about being discovered, but that's not an issue for me. I'm not quite sure what the issue is with being discovered for most, unless you want to be found. There's plenty of woods out there.

what am I missing here?

Do you know how to access the dark web to obtain these things? If your willing you should make a new thread discussing how to go through with the F method and maybe explain how to get it. I agree with you f seems like a better choice than sn but I also think it'd be harder to obtain

 

[dioxide]

If wrongly administered, Fentanyl may start seizures.

Fentanyl and Convulsions : Anesthesia & Analgesia

An abstract is unavailable. This article is available as a PDF only.

journals.lww.com

Several more studies are reported in medical journal.

What makes F a worst CTB method:

1) Money scam (take money, give nothing)
2) Chemical scam (take money, give any half_cut_shit)
3) Customs luck (package seized)
4) Customs unluck (report to authorities that come to your house, with legal conviction)
5) Bad dosage administration
6) Risk of convulsions with survival/permanent brain damage
7) Expensive
8) Sophisticated purchase (darknet,bitcons,and more bs)
9) Unpredictable expiration date
10) Unknown data about tolerance

 

[Reallyreallyreally]

I believe I'm going to do a thread on it. It took me maybe 15 minutes total to download everything and get on a good market, find a good vendor. I would say the entire process for someone who hasn't done it before may take 2 hours.

Interesting. So I was right then. It's easy once you know how to do it.

If wrongly administered, Fentanyl may start seizures.

Fentanyl and Convulsions : Anesthesia & Analgesia

An abstract is unavailable. This article is available as a PDF only.

journals.lww.com

Several more studies are reported in medical journal.

What makes F a worst CTB method:

1) Money scam (take money, give nothing)
2) Chemical scam (take money, give any half_cut_shit)
3) Customs luck (package seized)
4) Customs unluck (report to authorities that come to your house, with legal conviction)
5) Bad dosage administration
6) Risk of convulsions with survival/permanent brain damage
7) Expensive
8) Sophisticated purchase (darknet,bitcons,and more bs)
9) Uncheckable expiration date
10) Unknown data about tolerance

These are all really logical. 1, 2, 5, 7, 9, and 10 are all familiar thanks to an affinity I once had with the nightlife, with 6 sort of dancing around the edges of my mind but being put off as the product of urban legend. I always heard about this person or that person encountering 3 and 4, and 8 scares me because of an article I once read about the possibility of your participation potentially being traceable should the site be actually found and seized, which can lead to you being considered part of a crime ring by the federal government. I don't think I'd last too long in prison. I don't even do well having a roommate.

So yeah, SN is a much safer route by this measure. I'm curious about the other method, but I'd still choose the safest route, personally.

 

[Zoltiel]

If wrongly administered, Fentanyl may start seizures.

Fentanyl and Convulsions : Anesthesia & Analgesia

An abstract is unavailable. This article is available as a PDF only.

journals.lww.com

Several more studies are reported in medical journal.

What makes F a worst CTB method:

1) Money scam (take money, give nothing)
2) Chemical scam (take money, give any half_cut_shit)
3) Customs luck (package seized)
4) Customs unluck (report to authorities that come to your house, with legal conviction)
5) Bad dosage administration
6) Risk of convulsions with survival/permanent brain damage
7) Expensive
8) Sophisticated purchase (darknet,bitcons,and more bs)
9) Unpredictable expiration date
10) Unknown data about tolerance

1) Money scam (take money, give nothing)
2) Chemical scam (take money, give any half_cut_shit)
3) Customs luck (package seized)
4) Customs unluck (report to authorities that come to your house, with legal conviction)

Can all be taken care of by doing your research.

5) Bad dosage administration

Risk with any OD method

6) Risk of convulsions with survival/permanent brain damage

Convulsions would happen when you're unconscious, if they do happen. There is risk of permanent brain damage with any method, you are literally pushing your body to death.

7) Expensive

Cheaper than N

8) Sophisticated purchase (darknet,bitcons,and more bs)

Should be the least of your worries

9) Unpredictable expiration date

You got me with this one

10) Unknown data about tolerance

I think now you're just looking for things to be critical about. F is killing tens of thousands every year on accident. The people who survive and come here to talk about it all say the same thing, that it is 100% peaceful.

 

[Saddad]

If I could get F where I am I would,

I managed to get a load of oxycodone and xanax
First batch of xanax pressed copy so not sure what's in them.

Haven't had much negative feed back, had a little taster with just oxy, 80mg which has some potential to be fatal in opiod niave. Not and unpleasant experience. Just fell asleep..... really deep sleep.

I have 480mg crushed ready to put in water and will take 4-8mg of xanax with it and bomb some H.

If it was anything like my tester run while not as instant as F seems to be was peaceful.

 

[issyishere]

id love to use F as a method but could anyone ballpark the costs?

 

[WhyIsLife56]

like expanding CPU skills and having an easy backup plan ala hanging or even SN to deal with risks because you're dedicated...?? what a load of hypocrisy.

OP asked reasonable questions, no need to act like that

Are you seriously calling me a hypocrite?