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MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
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I suppose this is going to be both a story and a vent blended into one post.

Just had dinner with my folks and sister. (Delicious Fried chicken)
At the end,my step-mom got home and began to eat dinner herself and the topic of my weight and risks came in,as I've said earlier somewhere here that my step-mom heard my snoring last night and it was alarming,possibly a red-flag of a fatal disease coming my way.

I'll make the decision to tread more carefully(and hopefully my mom,*not step-mom*,buys me that magnesium supplement soon. I consider "Calm Magnesium" my safety net here),but I cannot and will not start actively dieting or working to lose weight until I finish college.

Why?

Well,first of all,we all know that losing fat/weight is not easy. The vast majority of people out there trying to lose the weight will fail their goal(and of the fewer who do manage it,most will ultimately fail to keep the weight off). Having to worry about my studies in college is already enough of an uphill challenge for me as it is,trying to add weight loss into the mix right now is going to result in nothing but disaster. possibly me failing both goals,and wasting precious time.

The 2nd reason however I feel is more important.

Where I live,not finishing college almost guarantees that you'll(Unless you're *The Exception* the likes of Bill Gates,Steve Jobs,or Manny Pacquiao,etc.)never have a good job,and will be stuck doing low-level work for the rest of your life. (garbage collector,tricycle driver,janitor,or whatever...)
If that is going to be my ultimate fate,I'd rather have a heart disease(or whatever other obesity related fatal disease)kill me than live my life like that. For me,passing college will be an important test of whether or not my life is going to be worth continuing. I hate studying,but through sheer miracle I managed to make it so far,if everything goes well,I'll be graduating by 2019.

Everything could still fall apart however,I've not lost sight of that. and if that happens,I'd prefer having my obesity take my life. Believe it or not,I actually ended up blurting this during the dinner conversation,because I'm honestly getting sick of being expected to lose weight at the time I'm at right now. My step-mom showed me a video of someone 440 lbs managing to successfully lose weight through your typical hard work and exercise.

Good for him,but lets not forget he's the exception. Millions of other people have attempted the same shit,and they failed miserably. The method I have in my hand,the e-book "Superior Fat Loss" by Jay from Aworkoutroutine,presents a method that is actually far more likely to work than the cliche advise of torturing yourself in the gym and drastically lowering your food intake all at once. (I've tried that method a few times,needless to say,it definitely isn't for me,and neither is it for the millions of others who've tried and failed it.

THAT is the method I want to follow,and I've made it very clear to everyone who expects me to lose weight. However,I cannot execute it yet,not while I'm juggling school responsibilities. though the method presented in the e-book is certainly much more reasonable and doable,there's no denying that its still going to be a challenge. I will reduce my food/caloric intake by an amount recommended in the guide. The discomfort of weight loss will be minimal,BUT...there is still going to be discomfort,no matter what. I can accept that fact,but its why I know I cannot execute it now while I'm still in college. I need the ideal conditions of having no responsibilities to start working on it,and that will only be possible after I graduated.

The only exercise involved in the routine is weight training(to maintain muscle mass and make sure as much of the weight I'm going to lose is fat and not muscle),but no cardio is required. (and heavy cardio is actually discouraged)

Anyway,I just had to get that out of my system. I cannot actively start losing weight from where I am now,and frankly,if I end up failing,I'd rather my obesity take my life then.
 
RM5998

RM5998

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Sep 3, 2018
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you've put more thought into this than I ever have. I reduce my weight by sleeping through mealtimes, and on the rare occasion, running for an hour. Thankfully the first part works well enough when I'm in college.

Also, where I'm from, even PhDs end up applying for janitorial positions.
 
MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
347
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you've put more thought into this than I ever have. I reduce my weight by sleeping through mealtimes, and on the rare occasion, running for an hour. Thankfully the first part works well enough when I'm in college.

Also, where I'm from, even PhDs end up applying for janitorial positions.
Indeed. finishing college is no guarantee of life success,I'm aware of that. (an aunt of mine used to be a grade A student all throughout her youth. Now she's a fat and batshit crazy loser who only survives via family support. I'd really rather be 6 ft under than end up in the same place)

I could PM you the e-book I have if you'd like. I assume you're still in college and will not be able to dedicate yourself to fitness/fat loss,but it'll certainly help if you reach a point in life where you have the opportunity.
 
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RM5998

RM5998

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Sep 3, 2018
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Thanks, but...

I assume you're still in college and will not be able to dedicate yourself to fitness/fat loss,but it'll certainly help if you reach a point in life where you have the opportunity.

I'm trying my hardest to not survive through college. I can maintain a GPA of around 7 (out of 10) by studying 2 weeks a semester, so I'm mostly in the clear on that. The goal right now is to somehow find the sweet spot on my neck for partial suspension, and go through with it. I can only keep trying that for a few minutes before I get frustrated, give up and curl up in bed.
 
JSRF

JSRF

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May 30, 2018
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I've lost 10kg in a month simply through change in diet. cut all the junk food and replace it with apples as they are effective in suppressing your hunger. replace lemonade or any other drink with water. To that add 2 meals a day and you should be alright
 
MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
347
Thanks, but...



I'm trying my hardest to not survive through college. I can maintain a GPA of around 7 (out of 10) by studying 2 weeks a semester, so I'm mostly in the clear on that. The goal right now is to somehow find the sweet spot on my neck for partial suspension, and go through with it. I can only keep trying that for a few minutes before I get frustrated, give up and curl up in bed.
Oh...understood. It looks like you've made your decision on this one.

I'll send you the e-book anyway in case you reconsider,but you don't have to bother with it if you don't want to. I guess I just feel like being a giver today...

EDIT: Never mind,it doesn't seem like the website will allow me to send the PDF. it doesn't matter I suppose. I wish you luck with your goal.
 
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medusa

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Sep 1, 2018
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I suppose this is going to be both a story and a vent blended into one post.

Just had dinner with my folks and sister. (Delicious Fried chicken)
At the end,my step-mom got home and began to eat dinner herself and the topic of my weight and risks came in,as I've said earlier somewhere here that my step-mom heard my snoring last night and it was alarming,possibly a red-flag of a fatal disease coming my way.

I'll make the decision to tread more carefully(and hopefully my mom,*not step-mom*,buys me that magnesium supplement soon. I consider "Calm Magnesium" my safety net here),but I cannot and will not start actively dieting or working to lose weight until I finish college.

Why?

Well,first of all,we all know that losing fat/weight is not easy. The vast majority of people out there trying to lose the weight will fail their goal(and of the fewer who do manage it,most will ultimately fail to keep the weight off). Having to worry about my studies in college is already enough of an uphill challenge for me as it is,trying to add weight loss into the mix right now is going to result in nothing but disaster. possibly me failing both goals,and wasting precious time.

The 2nd reason however I feel is more important.

Where I live,not finishing college almost guarantees that you'll(Unless you're *The Exception* the likes of Bill Gates,Steve Jobs,or Manny Pacquiao,etc.)never have a good job,and will be stuck doing low-level work for the rest of your life. (garbage collector,tricycle driver,janitor,or whatever...)
If that is going to be my ultimate fate,I'd rather have a heart disease(or whatever other obesity related fatal disease)kill me than live my life like that. For me,passing college will be an important test of whether or not my life is going to be worth continuing. I hate studying,but through sheer miracle I managed to make it so far,if everything goes well,I'll be graduating by 2019.

Everything could still fall apart however,I've not lost sight of that. and if that happens,I'd prefer having my obesity take my life. Believe it or not,I actually ended up blurting this during the dinner conversation,because I'm honestly getting sick of being expected to lose weight at the time I'm at right now. My step-mom showed me a video of someone 440 lbs managing to successfully lose weight through your typical hard work and exercise.

Good for him,but lets not forget he's the exception. Millions of other people have attempted the same shit,and they failed miserably. The method I have in my hand,the e-book "Superior Fat Loss" by Jay from Aworkoutroutine,presents a method that is actually far more likely to work than the cliche advise of torturing yourself in the gym and drastically lowering your food intake all at once. (I've tried that method a few times,needless to say,it definitely isn't for me,and neither is it for the millions of others who've tried and failed it.

THAT is the method I want to follow,and I've made it very clear to everyone who expects me to lose weight. However,I cannot execute it yet,not while I'm juggling school responsibilities. though the method presented in the e-book is certainly much more reasonable and doable,there's no denying that its still going to be a challenge. I will reduce my food/caloric intake by an amount recommended in the guide. The discomfort of weight loss will be minimal,BUT...there is still going to be discomfort,no matter what. I can accept that fact,but its why I know I cannot execute it now while I'm still in college. I need the ideal conditions of having no responsibilities to start working on it,and that will only be possible after I graduated.

The only exercise involved in the routine is weight training(to maintain muscle mass and make sure as much of the weight I'm going to lose is fat and not muscle),but no cardio is required. (and heavy cardio is actually discouraged)

Anyway,I just had to get that out of my system. I cannot actively start losing weight from where I am now,and frankly,if I end up failing,I'd rather my obesity take my life then.

did you have your hormones checked? Are they all okay?
I also have been having weight problems my entire life but have had luck managing them with dieting and exercise.
Maybe you can get surgery for this.
Being fat is terrible. No one wants to be like this out of their own free will, no matter how much body positivity we all have and whatever people say.
Being fat is going to kill you slowly and terribly...so I would really try to get some pounds off
 
MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
347
did you have your hormones checked? Are they all okay?
I also have been having weight problems my entire life but have had luck managing them with dieting and exercise.
Maybe you can get surgery for this.
Being fat is terrible. No one wants to be like this out of their own free will, no matter how much body positivity we all have and whatever people say.
Being fat is going to kill you slowly and terribly...so I would really try to get some pounds off
My dad will get my sister and I a general check-up next week,so I suppose that's an opportunity for me to find out.

Thanks for your concern. While I don't plan to go on a full diet just yet,I do plan on being a little more careful. I won't force myself to resist hunger,but I'll try not to needlessly eat when I'm not hungry.

I agree that there is almost zero objective benefit about being fat,I certainly am not because I want to be. I'm aware however that its going to be a really challenging endeavor. I have a lot of confidence in the method/e-book I have. I just need the ideal conditions to truly get started,and that's once I've graduated and have no responsibilities. If everything goes well,it won't be very long till I graduate. Believe it or not,I actually look forward to following my planned method. Its whether or not I pass college that's going to be my main barrier.

and yes,I'm aware of surgery such as Liposuction. But I also know they are not going to provide the long-term fat loss and benefits. That crazy aunt I spoke of did get a liposuction in the past,twice even...yet,she just ended up fat again. all that money went down the drain. (people tell me she's actually fatter than when she started out.)

I wouldn't consider surgery,knowing all this.

EDIT: I say "ALMOST no objective benefit" but the only real objective thing I could think of about being fat is if you end up in a fight,and you wrestle your opponent to the ground and lay on top of them. assuming the guy you're fighting isn't superhumanly strong(or a BJJ master),he's fucked in that case. lol. (I mentioned a fight I had around here that I did just that. though I already incapacitated the asshole with the tackle itself,haha)

Otherwise,no other benefit comes to mind. LMAO.
 
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medusa

Student
Sep 1, 2018
175
My dad will get my sister and I a general check-up next week,so I suppose that's an opportunity for me to find out.

Thanks for your concern. While I don't plan to go on a full diet just yet,I do plan on being a little more careful. I won't force myself to resist hunger,but I'll try not to needlessly eat when I'm not hungry.

I agree that there is almost zero objective benefit about being fat,I certainly am not because I want to be. I'm aware however that its going to be a really challenging endeavor. I have a lot of confidence in the method/e-book I have. I just need the ideal conditions to truly get started,and that's once I've graduated and have no responsibilities. If everything goes well,it won't be very long till I graduate. Believe it or not,I actually look forward to following my planned method. Its whether or not I pass college that's going to be my main barrier.

and yes,I'm aware of surgery such as Liposuction. But I also know they are not going to provide the long-term fat loss and benefits. That crazy aunt I spoke of did get a liposuction in the past,twice even...yet,she just ended up fat again. all that money went down the drain. (people tell me she's actually fatter than when she started out.)

I wouldn't consider surgery,knowing all this.

EDIT: I say "ALMOST no objective benefit" but the only real objective thing I could think of about being fat is if you end up in a fight,and you wrestle your opponent to the ground and lay on top of them. assuming the guy you're fighting isn't superhumanly strong,he's fucked in that case. lol. (I mentioned a fight I had around here that I did just that. though I already incapacitated the asshole with the tackle itself,haha)

Otherwise,no other benefit comes to mind. LMAO.

It's up to you. Your body, your life, of course:)! I don't mean surgery like lipo, more like a gastric balloon (hoping I'm using the correct name.) It's reversible, however it is expensive.
I'm really sorry this had to happen to you-I have had trouble keeping weight off my entire life and am jealous of people who can eat whatever they want.
Whatever you decide, good luck. It's hard, what you are going through!
 
MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
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It's up to you. Your body, your life, of course:)! I don't mean surgery like lipo, more like a gastric balloon (hoping I'm using the correct name.) It's reversible, however it is expensive.
I'm really sorry this had to happen to you-I have had trouble keeping weight off my entire life and am jealous of people who can eat whatever they want.
Whatever you decide, good luck. It's hard, what you are going through!
Just did a quick google search on that. definitely the first time I've learned of it. I'll keep it in mind. thanks for the supportive words.

I have had trouble keeping weight off my entire life and am jealous of people who can eat whatever they want.
I know your pain,man. ;-;

apparently,the one advantage we Endomorphs have that we can gain muscle and strength much more easily than the ectomorphs.

Even if that's true(I'll have to confirm this for myself with that weight training routine I mentioned),I'd trade it for the ability to eat whatever and however much I want in a heartbeat.

Anyway,I must go. Thanks again for the support.
 
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Being overweight can carry long-term health implications later in life which will be very unpleasant and drawn out. I think being as healthy as you can is really the best you can do regardless of your weight. That means less carbs, more healthy fat, less junk, more water. Diet really is the key to health.

And I thought I could eat whatever I wanted 'cus I'm skinny. Turns out you can be 'skinny fat' with a low BMI but a high visceral fat which is really bad for you.
 
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DeathBecomesMe

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Sep 9, 2018
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You guys should try a ketogenic diet, once you enter ketosis the pounds should start falling away. No carbs and no sugars and as little processed foods as possible. Keto can also be the tastiest way to eat, with lots of butter and fats, but it is more expensive to maintain than eating cheaper carbs and grains.
 
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RM5998

RM5998

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Sep 3, 2018
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And I thought I could eat whatever I wanted 'cus I'm skinny. Turns out you can be 'skinny fat' with a low BMI but a high visceral fat which is really bad for you.

That makes two of us. It's as if life likes handing you a bone and then snatching it away.
 
MEoDP

MEoDP

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Sep 2, 2018
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That makes two of us. It's as if life likes handing you a bone and then snatching it away.
I guess being an Ectomorph isn't as much of a boon as I thought. Thinking about it now,I have several skinny(likely skinny-fat)neighbors who have died of heart attacks. strangely,some of them may have been younger than me. One particular notable case was a guy who ate at Mcdonalds almost everyday.

Is being skinny-fat just as health hazardous as being fat?

I really wish I was born a Mesomorph instead of an Endomorph,but hey...I wish for a lot of other things too. Like being born to a better family.
 
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Dead_Inside

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Jul 2, 2018
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I suppose this is going to be both a story and a vent blended into one post.

Just had dinner with my folks and sister. (Delicious Fried chicken)
At the end,my step-mom got home and began to eat dinner herself and the topic of my weight and risks came in,as I've said earlier somewhere here that my step-mom heard my snoring last night and it was alarming,possibly a red-flag of a fatal disease coming my way.
I'm sorry why is YOUR weight any of HER business? Are you both forced to share the same body though a tragic science accident?? Probably not. So unless you want to lose weight and you have asked her for some advice in that area .... she needs to shut it. Snoring is not something to get overly worried about. You are fine. Lose weight if you want to, when you want to.
Fuck these people and their need to control everyone's life. Why don't they work on their own shit?!
 
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MEoDP

MEoDP

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Fuck these people and their need to control everyone's life. Why don't they work on their own shit?!
Indeed! It reminds me of that extremely annoying uncle I once had,who is thankfully now gone. (no,he's not dead. Just forced to move away into a country far away from me. he hasn't tried to contact me since,and I prefer it that way)
Guy was a hypocrite honestly,he's addicted to smoking and here he is trying to lecture me about losing weight for my health. If we hadn't been separated,I'd have eventually told him to shut it unless he successfully manages to overcome his nicotine addiction.

BTW the same goes for my dad. He switched from cigarettes to vaping e-cigarettes,but the fact remains that he's still addicted to nicotine and needed a safer replacement for the addiction to succeed.

The same goes for me,that's why I can't just fucking start the weight loss journey right here and now and expect to succeed. Unfortunately,we don't have a no-calorie substitute for delicious food(virtual reality technology is dozens of years away),so I have to follow a method that aims to make the journey as easy and smooth as possible,and in an ideal environment of no responsibilities. I wish they would fucking get that and shut up about my weight until I graduate college.

Thank you for the supportive words.
 
Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

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Jul 2, 2018
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Thank you for the supportive words.
Weight is a difficult thing in the modern world... a plump animal is supposed to be a healthy animal... unless you are a human?! And yet 200 years ago we would have agreed ...
Focus on your studies- trust me on this one (I choose to party too much in college) - your weight is your business. If, and only if, it becomes a problem for you, then work on it. The most interesting part of you is, and always will be what's inside your head.
 

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